Maverick R

[riverroyal]

The big pine sports you tube stuff is great.
This thing has so much oem accessories

 

[riverroyal]

Imagine how many kits he’s gonna sell.. a cubic shit ton is the answer

Did you watch anything on the suspension design? Personally I don't think it's going to break like you guys think. The forces won't be enough
I'm sure someone will break something, but you get the idea.
The upper knuckle doesn't appear to be a weak link

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Did you watch anything on the suspension design? Personally I don't think it's going to break like you guys think. The forces won't be enough
I'm sure someone will break something, but you get the idea.
The upper knuckle doesn't appear to be a weak link

Why would we watch anything about the product?

It’s not going to break any more than current traditional designs. The back is gonna need $700 of radius rods though.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

The only downside, which is huge about having your switches on a touch screen is when running hard and you want to turn something on it’s hard to hold your hand steady on a touchscreen and get the right accessory to turn on. Speaking from experience with a garmin touchscreen. I now like regular switches for lights, etc.

Excellent point. The touchscreens also usually suck with gloves. I’ve got the index fingertip cut off my gloves for that reason.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

Did you watch anything on the suspension design? Personally I don't think it's going to break like you guys think. The forces won't be enough
I'm sure someone will break something, but you get the idea.
The upper knuckle doesn't appear to be a weak link

It seems RD is stuck on form over function here. Apparently he missed the several videos and posts about that suspension design resulting in a 85% reduction of force on the upper ball joint over traditional designs.

 

[rivrrts429]

The more I look at this thing the more I think Polaris is gonna get their teeth kicked in..

It’s definitely an improvement but the vast majority buy on looks first. That thing is ugly. Like Yamaha ugly.

I wouldn’t necessarily care about it’s looks if it performs but if I had a wife, and I don’t, but if I did that might change things. I think the vast majority of spontaneous purchasers fall into the latter and their wife is having none of it. Pittsburgh bumble bee bold colors and the Dodge mirror spindles are odd esthetics to the opposite species lol

… of course I’m not talking about the dudes of RDP. All RDP dudes wear the pants and tell their woman to get back into the kitchen lol

 

[MARCYTECH]

That suspension will forsure live. Is it ugly? Yes but it solves one of the rzrs biggest issues : front wheel scrub.
The king pin inclination is probably close to 0 and will directly be felt (actually not felt) in the steering wheel.
Lots less steering feed back
Lots less wheel scrub
Lots less forces on the hub and upper arms alll due to a ton less scrub radius.
It’s a win in every factor besides looks imo. Will I own one? No. Im more of a ez-go guy myself when it comes to golf carts.
But from a suspension design standpoint… it’s gonna be good!

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

It’s definitely an improvement but the vast majority buy on looks first. That thing is ugly. Like Yamaha ugly.

I wouldn’t necessarily care about it’s looks if it performs but if I had a wife, and I don’t, but if I did that might change things. I think the vast majority of spontaneous purchasers fall into the latter and their wife is having none of it. Pittsburgh bumble bee bold colors and the Dodge mirror spindles are odd esthetics to the opposite species lol

… of course I’m not talking about the dudes of RDP. All RDP dudes wear the pants and tell their woman to get back into the kitchen lol

Them bitches will run and buy it the first time they hear that anti lag popping and banging lol.

None of these things are particularly pleasing to the eye right now.. and the original X3 was never really that attractive in my opinion.

It’s going to be tough to really tell on sales because they only have the 2 seater right now and this is clearly a desert oriented car.

But I’ll go down as saying they won’t lose any market share on this thing once the 4 seater is out.

The wheelbase of the 2 seater is only 9” shorter than an 4 seat Turbo S. It’s big for a 2 seater!

 

[rivrrts429]

Them bitches will run and buy it the first time they hear that anti lag popping and banging lol.

None of these things are particularly pleasing to the eye right now.. and the original X3 was never really that attractive in my opinion.

It’s going to be tough to really tell on sales because they only have the 2 seater right now and this is clearly a desert oriented car.

But I’ll go down as saying they won’t lose any market share on this thing once the 4 seater is out.

The wheelbase of the 2 seater is only 9” shorter than an 4 seat Turbo S. It’s big for a 2 seater!

All of it is good. The UTV market only improves from this type of stuff.

Polaris isn’t going to sit around and wait. They have some stuff waiting to compete. Maybe not revolutionary suspension type stuff but they’ll compete with horsepower and shift/auto transmission stuff. If they don’t go full kook with the looks they’ll maintain a strong following.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

Them bitches will run and buy it the first time they hear that anti lag popping and banging lol.

None of these things are particularly pleasing to the eye right now.. and the original X3 was never really that attractive in my opinion.

It’s going to be tough to really tell on sales because they only have the 2 seater right now and this is clearly a desert oriented car.

But I’ll go down as saying they won’t lose any market share on this thing once the 4 seater is out.

The wheelbase of the 2 seater is only 9” shorter than an 4 seat Turbo S. It’s big for a 2 seater!

That 2 step be makin bitches panties drop! Lol!!

I'm not sure if it's just something I hadn't really noticed on other models, but it looks like the tires on this are in the true corners. As in the rear tires are back further than any other part back there and same with the front.

Am I seeing things?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

All of it is good. The UTV market only improves from this type of stuff.

Polaris isn’t going to sit around and wait. They have some stuff waiting to compete. Maybe not revolutionary suspension type stuff but they’ll compete with horsepower and shift/auto transmission stuff. If they don’t go full kook with the looks they’ll maintain a strong following.

Yea. They will be fine too. The Turbo R is gonna need some more power.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

That 2 step be makin bitches panties drop! Lol!!

I'm not sure if it's just something I hadn't really noticed on other models, but it looks like the tires on this are in the true corners. As in the rear tires are back further than any other part back there and same with the front.

Am I seeing things?

Most performance UTVs have been this way for the last few years, especially since adopting 32” tires.

 

[rivrrts429]

Yea. They will be fine too. The Turbo R is gonna need some more power.

Agreed, a lot more…

 

[Magic34]

I like the idea of being bold and attempting to redefine the category, but that’s a lot of money. I had my spot for the first one from the dealer I do all my biz with. Added up what I wanted on it…. $53k and it was going straight to a shop in Phoenix for R&D and tooling for parts. Figure I’d be out 2-3 months after picking it up.

I’m pumping the brakes and looking to see how it shakes out before being $70k in another car.
My current car has 265 hp, I’m interested to see how it does against the 240/DCT set up.

 

[SJP]

There is a video on Lia Block’s IG where she is cruising in Dessert at around 100mph. Looks pretty solid.

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

Agreed, a lot more…

So am I to understand that the Speed car is now the 4th fastest SxS?

 

[riverroyal]

There is a video on Lia Block’s IG where she is cruising in Dessert at around 100mph. Looks pretty solid.

wow. thats crazy. Talented young lady as well.

 

[MonkeyButt70]

 

[counterpart7]

I would like to see this with just an Xtravel upper arm and spindle without the curve(assuming lower ball joint is in a usable location) Hopefully that’s an option at some point. It would look better while performing nearly as well. Only adding a few more spherical bearings.

Rest of it looks good in my opinion.

 

[HCP3]

 

[RVR SWPR]

I like the idea of being bold and attempting to redefine the category, but that’s a lot of money. I had my spot for the first one from the dealer I do all my biz with. Added up what I wanted on it…. $53k and it was going straight to a shop in Phoenix for R&D and tooling for parts. Figure I’d be out 2-3 months after picking it up.

I’m pumping the brakes and looking to see how it shakes out before being $70k in another car.
My current car has 265 hp, I’m interested to see how it does against the 240/DCT set up.

Welcome.

 

[RiverDave]

It seems RD is stuck on form over function here. Apparently he missed the several videos and posts about that suspension design resulting in a 85% reduction of force on the upper ball joint over traditional designs.

I watched it all.. I said it before as well that sometimes the way things look has nothing to do with how it works..

 

[mbrown2]

I don't even have a side by side....but this era of SXS's reminds me of the 70/80's with Dirt Bikes.... traditional coil overs to mono, uni, full floater....from air cooled to water cooled, two strokes vs 4.... A ton of engineering investment and leap frog changes and tons of test time... Literally in the last 18 months you have 3 manufactures, 1 new to market all raising the ceiling...and pushing the whole industry to another level.... All of the customers benefit....technology that is only a couple years old but was top of food chain becomes affordable on the used market... fascinating to see it unfold...

 

[rivrrts429]

So am I to understand that the Speed car is now the 4th fastest SxS?

Just nudging out an EZ-Go

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Yesssss

 

[MonkeyButt70]

When the 4 seaters emerge, I would consider buying. The trans/engine combo alone is the selling point. The front end will either work or be replaced with an aftermarket mod kit. Much better bet to me than a Speed car.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

When the 4 seaters emerge, I would consider buying. The trans/engine combo alone is the selling point. The front end will either work or be replaced with an aftermarket mod kit. Much better bet to me than a Speed car.

Thats probably accurate until the Speed guys run e85 and 300Hp… but I see no need for that in the desert.

The 4 seat version of this car is going to be a bus. That and the lack of storage are the only real downsides I see.

I think the 4 seat Speed is size is perfect, and will be the best handling/sportiest 4 seater, as it is just marginally bigger than the Can Am and Polaris 2 seaters.

 

[FROGMAN524]

Thats probably accurate until the Speed guys run e85 and 300Hp… but I see no need for that in the desert.

The 4 seat version of this car is going to be a bus. That and the lack of storage are the only real downsides I see.

I think the 4 seat Speed is size is perfect, and will be the best handling/sportiest 4 seater, as it is just marginally bigger than the Can Am and Polaris 2 seaters.

You'ld have to be 4'10" to sit in the back of a Speed correct?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

You'ld have to be 4'10" to sit in the back of a Speed correct?

No. I’m 6’3 and fit. It is cramped but livable. Lots of videos of demo rides with 4 big dudes in the car.

There is more room in the back of a 4 seat Can Am or newer gen RZR.. but those cars are feet longer.

The Speed has more room in the back than a RZR Turbo S and any older 4 seat RZR though.

 

[dirtslinger2]

You'ld have to be 4'10" to sit in the back of a Speed correct?

I've ridden in, not just sat in, the back and front seat of a Speed 4 seater. I'm 5'8" and was not cramped in the least bit in the back. It was totally comfortable.

 

[PlanB]

Phil Blurton's new R with 35's and an aftermarket cage.

 

[EmpirE231]

Phil Blurton's new R with 35's and an aftermarket cage. View attachment 1268643

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Phil Blurton's new R with 35's and an aftermarket cage. View attachment 1268643

Oh boy.. that looks bad ass.

 

[c_land]

Phil Blurton's new R with 35's and an aftermarket cage. View attachment 1268643

Thank goodness that looks much better.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Thank goodness that looks much better.

Everyone just forgot about the upper arms

 

[counterpart7]

Phil Blurton's new R with 35's and an aftermarket cage. View attachment 1268643

Black upper arms and spindles might just make it okay. Cage looks good with the new body work!

 

[bonesfab]

The upper arm reminds of the bird stance on the Karate Kid at the end.

 

[Bigbore500r]

Everyone just forgot about this upper arms

Until you see it from the front, and then BAM - it sucks again

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Black upper arms and spindles might just make it okay. Cage looks good with the new body work!

The old paint it black and put it back technique

 

[240Hallett]

The upper arm reminds of the bird stance on the Karate Kid at the end.

And it worked for him, so…

 

[dirtslinger2]

Looks like they had to run a different offset wheel to make that work, or not sure why they did?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Looks like they had to run a different offset wheel to make that work, or not sure why they did?

Hard to tell as you can’t see it from the s front. That is an existing 5.5” wide ZRP “5+1” offset wheel drilled for 6 lug.

The narrower wheel alone will have pulled the sidewall of the tire away from the front upright.

No one has good 16” tires for the stock wheels. They should have left 15” wheels on all models in my opinion.

I can’t find any specs on the stock wheel width. It is probably a 6”or 7” wide wheel.

 

[mbrown2]

Very cool........300K views in 5 hrs... SpeedUTV vid's on youtube are around 6k......this can't help Carl's pricing

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

Thats probably accurate until the Speed guys run e85 and 300Hp… but I see no need for that in the desert.

The 4 seat version of this car is going to be a bus. That and the lack of storage are the only real downsides I see.

I think the 4 seat Speed is size is perfect, and will be the best handling/sportiest 4 seater, as it is just marginally bigger than the Can Am and Polaris 2 seaters.

Why is the new Can Am a “bus”, yet smaller than the Speed? Or am I reading your post incorrect?

 

[dirtslinger2]

Why is the new Can Am a “bus”, yet smaller than the Speed? Or am I reading your post incorrect?

Because this is only a 2 seater model, he's comparing 2 seat WB to 4 seat WB Speed.

 

[dirtslinger2]

Hard to tell as you can’t see it from the side. That is an existing 6” wide ZRP 5+1 offset wheel drilled for 6 lug.

No one has good 16” tires for the stock wheels. They should have left 15” wheels on all models in my opinion.

I can’t find any specs on the stock wheel width. It is probably a 6”or 7” wide wheel.

Not hard to tell at all.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Why is the new Can Am a “bus”, yet smaller than the Speed? Or am I reading your post incorrect?

4 seat version of this car yet to be released, will be the bus. The current x3 max is already a long car. They ride great, just not as sporty to drive.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Not hard to tell at all.

Oh yes. I didn’t see that pic.

Have you seen any detail of the stock wheels are 6 or 7” wide? I have a feeing 7” wide by looking at that pic.

The car might be near 80” wide with this setup in it.

 

[dirtslinger2]

Oh yes. I didn’t see that pic.

Have you seen any detail of the stock wheels are 6 or 7” wide? I have a feeing 7” wide by looking at that pic.

The car might be near 80” wide with this setup in it.

I have no clue, but I saw a video where a guy couldn't fit his finger between the tire and the knuckle stock, this looks like 2" now to me, and a 1" skinnier wheel, with the same offset isn't moving a sidewall that far, maybe 1" skinnier, and 1" different offset?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I have no clue, but I saw a video where a guy couldn't fit his finger between the tire and the knuckle stock, this looks like 2" now to me, and a 1" skinnier wheel, with the same offset isn't moving a sidewall that far, maybe 1" skinnier, and 1" different offset?

Agreed. If it’s a 7” wheel, even the same effective offset as stock would pull the tire away from the upright an inch to inch and a half with a 6” or 5.5” wheel.

And everyone is going to be putting wheels and tires on these.