Maverick R

[PlanB]

Got a link to that?

It was posted in a Can-Am FB group. Here is a screen shot:

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

It was posted in a Can-Am FB group. Here is a screen shot:

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Does Speed have a PR department?

 

[FROGMAN524]

Does Speed have a PR department?

Just RG and LOF and Carl

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

Just RG and LOF and Carl

Hahaha

Quality.

 

[RiverDave]

Does Speed have a PR department?

It was posted in a Can-Am FB group. Here is a screen shot:

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Man I don’t even know why he’d be participating in a can am group..

I will say he does have everyone talking about him and his products 24/7 though.. lol

 

[PlanB]

The upper arm / knuckle looks better black.

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

Man I don’t even know why he’d be participating in a can am group..

I will say he does have everyone talking about him and his products 24/7 though.. lol

It is interesting. He’s a very type A guy. Seems to have to try to control the narrative. If I’m him, I’d just be head down, focus on my car and nothing else.

He’s never going to sell as many cars as Can-Am or Polaris, so why even worry about them?

Yes, they’re talking about him but not necessarily in a good way.

 

[PlanB]

Man I don’t even know why he’d be participating in a can am group..

I will say he does have everyone talking about him and his products 24/7 though.. lol

He did not post it in the group. Someone posted from I think IG into the group.

 

[PlanB]

Does Speed have a PR department?

I was gonna say Carl, but someone beat me.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

It is interesting. He’s a very type A guy. Seems to have to try to control the narrative. If I’m him, I’d just be head down, focus on my car and nothing else.

He’s never going to sell as many cars as Can-Am or Polaris, so why even worry about them?

Yes, they’re talking about him but not necessarily in a good way.

People here 18 months ago that said they would never buy a car from RG because of his attitude or business model. These people are now waiting for the car, scared to make a purchase because the Speed might be better than the Pro R.

With how many people have sat on the sidelines scared to buy a Pro R, he’s 100% done the right thing by putting himself in the conversation.

Being humble and silent would have netted him 2500 cars in line.. he’s got 20,000 to build.

 

[rivrrts429]

It is interesting. He’s a very type A guy. Seems to have to try to control the narrative. If I’m him, I’d just be head down, focus on my car and nothing else.

He’s never going to sell as many cars as Can-Am or Polaris, so why even worry about them?

Yes, they’re talking about him but not necessarily in a good way.

Why would he do that? Nothing about his business model and how he goes to market with any product throughout the years has told him he’s doing it wrong. He’s been highly successful to this point in both driving talent and profitability off the course.

It’s like pro-wrestling. Some of the most infamous and talked about characters are the heel/villains. I’m not saying RG is playing an act but nothing is telling him to do anything different than he is today.

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

People here 18 months ago that said they would never buy a car from RG because of his attitude or business model. These people are now waiting for the car, scared to make a purchase because the Speed might be better than the Pro R.

With how many people have sat on the sidelines scared to buy a Pro R, he’s 100% done the right thing by putting himself in the conversation.

Being humble and silent would have netted him 2500 cars in line.. he’s got 20,000 to build.

Perhaps. He is no wall flower.

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

Why would he do that? Nothing about his business model and how he goes to market with any product throughout the years has told him he’s doing it wrong. He’s been highly successful to this point in both driving talent and profitability off the course.

It’s like pro-wrestling. Some of the most infamous and talked about characters are the heel/villains. I’m not saying RG is playing an act but nothing is telling him to do anything different than he is today.

But it's a complete turn off to more folks than a reason to like him. Is that how you sell? Would you allow one of your guys to conduct themselves like that?

 

[rivrrts429]

But it's a complete turn off to more folks than a reason to like him. Is that how you sell? Would you allow one of your guys to conduct themselves like that?

It’s not my style and I don’t agree with his style. I’m just saying that he clearly has more business than he can handle at the moment. Taking a smoother approach and softer edge can’t be realized at the moment. It has only emboldened him.

You know how many times I wish Trump would shut his mouth? It’s a similar narcissistic trait that can’t be realized until the organization becomes bigger than they themselves can handle. RG isn’t there yet.

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

It’s not my style and I don’t agree with his style. I’m just saying that he clearly has more business than he can handle at the moment. Taking a smoother approach and softer edge can’t be realized at the moment. It has only emboldened him.

You know how many times I wish Trump would shut his mouth? It’s a similar narcissistic trait that can’t be realized until the organization becomes bigger than they themselves can handle. RG isn’t there yet.

Great comparison.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

But it's a complete turn off to more folks than a reason to like him. Is that how you sell? Would you allow one of your guys to conduct themselves like that?

People will hold their nose and buy the car if it’s good. People are holding off purchases waiting to see if it’s good. Like it or not, he’s doing exactly what he need to do to sell units and keep interest on the brand. Look at this site.. it’s been 3 years of non stop arguing from people that claim to not want one and say they will never buy one, yet want a ride the minute anyone gets one, and now say they may be a buyer if it’s good.

He’s the Trump of UTVs. I’ve said the same thing @rivrrts429 has said. And at this point it’s pretty hard to say he’s not loyal to his customers. You have a couple guys with lingering issues that Speed is addressing. The rest seem pretty satisfied as Speed has made most of their issues right, extended warranties, etc.

And the rest of us are getting a better product for it… I don’t even need to mention it’s $20k cheaper than the competition.

These first 100 people knew what they signed up for. All of us in the first several hundred do as well.

 

[caribbean20]

People here 18 months ago that said they would never buy a car from RG because of his attitude or business model. These people are now waiting for the car, scared to make a purchase because the Speed might be better than the Pro R.

With how many people have sat on the sidelines scared to buy a Pro R, he’s 100% done the right thing by putting himself in the conversation.

Being humble and silent would have netted him 2500 cars in line.. he’s got 20,000 to build.

It will be interesting to see how many of those 20,000 orders are actually turned into sales, with new product hitting the market. A deposit is one thing, a sale is when it gets real. Very interesting David vs. Goliath business case to watch from the cheap seats.

Hope it all works out well. The guy sure seems to have pored his heart and soul into this venture.

 

[Deckin Around]

Does Speed have a PR department?

I feel like a negative PR dept is more accurate to what they have and Robby is the manager.
Speed update videos get 4-5k views total.

The video posted earlier with the bad tranny review already has double that.

Chupacabra’s speed review 30k views.

The video of Travis and Cletus in the new canam isn’t a week old and has 1million views.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I feel like a negative PR dept is more accurate to what they have and Robby is the manager.
Speed update videos get 4-5k views total.

The video posted earlier with the bad tranny review already has double that.

Chupacabra’s speed review 30k views.

The video of Travis and Cletus in the new canam isn’t a week old and has 1million views.

That bad tranny dude does not know what he’s talking about. He has a clutch or belt problem, not a transmission problem.

Can Am hit it out of the park by using Cleetus.

It will be Christmas before we find out what breaks on a Maverick R though.

 

[Bullhead bully]

Can-Am and Polaris will continue to dominate the market. I know the suspension looks very unorthodox. But the leverage cantilever points make a lot of sense. They are extending it out to get more strength. Makes total sense.

7 speed Transmission with paddle shift oh hell yeah.

It will be interesting to see how it lasts and performs. But my gut feeling is it might be the dominant force.

No I’m not ready to sell the Pro R. It’s pretty awesome.

But I may need a second Car

 

[DLC]

That bad tranny dude does not know what he’s talking about. He has a clutch or belt problem, not a transmission problem.

Can Am hit it out of the park by using Cleetus.

It will be Christmas before we find out what breaks on a Maverick R though.

That’s Assuming there will be a break / problem / issue in the New Mav R…..

Can Am doesn’t have recalls or Stop rides or issues. They want 100 % at time of purchase!

I have a friend that had an oil leak 6 weeks after purchase…. We actually purchased on the same day, same dealer, although different cars he got a 2 seat, I got a 4 seat - This was back in 2018.

they took the motor out and rebuilt it and gave him an extended warranty for a bad gasket/ o ring….

 

[DWC]

Can-Am and Polaris will continue to dominate the market. I know the suspension looks very unorthodox. But the leverage cantilever points make a lot of sense. They are extending it out to get more strength. Makes total sense.

7 speed Transmission with paddle shift oh hell yeah.

It will be interesting to see how it lasts and performs. But my gut feeling is it might be the dominant force.

No I’m not ready to sell the Pro R. It’s pretty awesome.

But I may need a second Car

I would absolutely sell the Pro R asap if i were you. I’ll help find a buyer

 

[Bullhead bully]

I would absolutely sell the Pro R asap if i were you. I’ll help find a buyer

Ok. As long as I don’t have to get Chinese food shoved down my throat

 

[DWC]

response to Bryce’s video. “It’s fragile”
that’s the last thing I want to hear about parts when buying an off-road vehicle
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There’s no way that RG.

 

[Deckin Around]

That bad tranny dude does not know what he’s talking about. He has a clutch or belt problem, not a transmission problem.

Can Am hit it out of the park by using Cleetus.

It will be Christmas before we find out what breaks on a Maverick R though.

that sounds cheaper/easier to deal with vs an internal trans issues BUT… whatever the problem Speed hasn’t fixed it in the 3 trips back to them?? what say ye?

 

[Deckin Around]

There’s no way that RG.

correct, unverified account. i deleted that post

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

that sounds cheaper/easier to deal with vs an internal trans issues BUT… whatever the problem Speed hasn’t fixed it in the 3 trips back to them?? what say ye?

He said it idles too high. And it shifts fine when the engine is off. The trans is likely fine, it’s just dragging the belt which is why it does not like to shift. As for why that is, no idea. Could be something dumb like a vacuum leak, could be something else, but the idle is controlled by the computer, and from what we can see so far, he’s the only one with that issue.

He has one of the first dozen out for public consumption. Based on his commentary from the beginning when he got the car, I think he’d be better off with car 500 than car 5. That does not fix all his problems, but again, he knew what he was getting into with a car in the first dozen. It sucks he has to take it back, but again, that is the deal right now. I wouldn’t own one outside Havasu or close to OC at this point. In 6 months to a year that will probably change.

That said people routinely spend more money on toyhaulers to have a worse ownership experience than this guy has had so far.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

That’s Assuming there will be a break / problem / issue in the New Mav R…..

Can Am doesn’t have recalls or Stop rides or issues. They want 100 % at time of purchase!

I have a friend that had an oil leak 6 weeks after purchase…. We actually purchased on the same day, same dealer, although different cars he got a 2 seat, I got a 4 seat - This was back in 2018.

they took the motor out and rebuilt it and gave him an extended warranty for a bad gasket/ o ring….

That’s true.

I think it will need radius rods quick. All of the lower rods in the back are single shear. They seem to have addressed many of the old X3 shortcomings though.

 

[PlanB]

That’s true.

I think it will need radius rods quick. All of the lower rods in the back are single shear. They seem to have addressed many of the old X3 shortcomings though.

I think everything except the middle radius rod is double shear. That's according to Justing at Shock therapy and he said the non DS rod looks like it is a hiem.

 

[Albert]

 

[PlanB]

 

[SKIDMARC]

That thing is so cool.

 

[DWC]

Great vid. Disappointed they didn’t talk shit about any other car. . I went from hating the knuckle deal to it not bothering me so much. If the transmission holds together and it handles as advertised it’ll be a badass setup.

 

[PlanB]

Great vid. Disappointed they didn’t talk shit about any other car. . I went from hating the knuckle deal to it not bothering me so much. If the transmission holds together and it handles as advertised it’ll be a badass setup.

I agree.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Great vid. Disappointed they didn’t talk shit about any other car. . I went from hating the knuckle deal to it not bothering me so much. If the transmission holds together and it handles as advertised it’ll be a badass setup.

I never even hated the knuckle .

This thing should be pretty good. The shifting on the fly is what really makes it nice.

 

[DWC]

I never even hated the knuckle .

This thing should be pretty good. The shifting on the fly is what really makes it nice.

That knuckle, yes. .

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

That knuckle, yes. .

Paint it black and put it back

 

[DWC]

Paint it black and put it back

Yeah, I’d do the whole car black on black and run it. Looking forward to seeing the 4 seater. Really looking forward to seeing the acceleration comparisons. Old vs new.

PS. You guys coming out this weekend?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Yeah, I’d do the whole car black on black and run it. Looking forward to seeing the 4 seater. Really looking forward to seeing the acceleration comparisons. Old vs new.

PS. You guys coming out this weekend?

Yea we will be out Friday afternoon.

The old car is so much lighter, I’m interested to see if this is actually any faster.

I want to see the 4 seater as well. It is going to be large!

 

[rivermobster]

Cool vid.

Too bad they had to lie about their transmission though. The Honda Talon has had a dual clutch, paddle shift transmission all along. It's almost impossible that they didn't know that.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Cool vid.

Too bad they had to lie about their transmission though. The Honda Talon has had a dual clutch, paddle shift transmission all along. It's almost impossible that they didn't know that.

So Can Am also lies to make their product look better than the competition in their marketing materials?

I guess that means a whole swath of RDP members won’t allow themselves to buy this car either.

 

[RiverDave]

Man some of you guys will go for any reason (most of which is disinformation anyways) to hate on speed.. and try to find any reason to like anything else. Lol.

 

[Bpracing1127]

Man some of you guys will go for any reason (most of which is disinformation anyways) to hate on speed.. and try to find any reason to like anything else. Lol.

Speed sure is making it easy to hate on them

Oil leaks
Radiator problems
Belt problems
Sensors not working
Steering problems

Delivery problems

That’s just the tip of the ice berg.

So it’s easy to hate on speed. Until speed proves itself it’s not going to get respect in the offroad sxs community

Can am and Polaris have their faults too but they have respect for being industry leaders and bringing great products to the table.

Speed reminds me of this debate

Ford vs Chevy and speed is Toyota who wants to play but can’t lol

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Speed sure is making it easy to hate on them

Oil leaks
Radiator problems
Belt problems
Sensors not working
Steering problems

Delivery problems

That’s just the tip of the ice berg.

So it’s easy to hate on speed. Until speed proves itself it’s not going to get respect in the offroad sxs community

Can am and Polaris have their faults too but they have respect for being industry leaders and bringing great products to the table.

Speed reminds me of this debate

Ford vs Chevy and speed is Toyota who wants to play but can’t lol

And yet Speed is still better than the market leader Polaris in many areas as reviewed by multiple parties.

None of those delivery and development issues affect you at all.. so why do you care? This are/were cars in the first dozen for public consumption, and the dude complaining repeatedly has said he’s happy. Most if not all the people that have their cars seem to be satisfied overall.

And after all that, they have improved the cars that have not been delivered because of this initial group of development cars for feedback.

Aside from the timeline, there is not a lot to complain about. As we’ve seen it takes Polaris and Can Am just as long to bring a car to market.

All this complaining is about a car you don’t own and won’t buy. Yet the same
people complaining are willing buy toyhaulers that are falling apart and need work as they drive off the lot .

 

[BRONCOBOY]

This is a CAN AM MAVERICK R thread - Right? you Speed haters infect ever thread.

 

[Bigbore500r]

Yea we will be out Friday afternoon.

The old car is so much lighter, I’m interested to see if this is actually any faster.

I want to see the 4 seater as well. It is going to be large!

All of these cars are overpowered for the desert, they can only go as fast as the suspension will let them. In that respect the new car should be faster.
That, and the top speed limiter of 98 for the new car. Im sure it gets over 100 easily once tuned.

Drag racing on the flats - who knows, Light weight + CVT / no shifting VS heavier / more power / 7 speed. Somebody in Oakland will be flossing this around the city streets soon, we'll find out

Lining them both up at Olds and letting them eat would tell the tale of Power to weight

 

[82daytona]

Assuming my current x3 sells I’m getting one

 

[Boatymcboatface]

And yet Speed is still better than the market leader Polaris in many areas as reviewed by multiple parties. They lead the market in fewest cars delivered with the most amount off

Oil leaks
Radiator problems
Belt problems
Sensors not working
Steering problems

Delivery problems

None of those delivery and development issues affect you at all.. so why do you care? This are/were cars in the first dozen for public consumption, and the dude complaining repeatedly has said he’s happy. Most if not all the people that have their cars seem to be satisfied overall.

And after all that, they have improved the cars that have not been delivered because of this initial group of development cars for feedback.

Aside from the timeline, there is not a lot to complain about. As we’ve seen it takes Polaris and Can Am just as long to bring a car to market.

All this complaining is about a car you don’t own and won’t buy. Yet the same
people complaining are willing buy toyhaulers that are falling apart and need work as they drive off the lot .

 

[rivermobster]

All of these cars are overpowered for the desert, they can only go as fast as the suspension will let them. In that respect the new car should be faster.
That, and the top speed limiter of 98 for the new car. Im sure it gets over 100 easily once tuned.

Drag racing on the flats - who knows, Light weight + CVT / no shifting VS heavier / more power / 7 speed. Somebody in Oakland will be flossing this around the city streets soon, we'll find out

Lining them both up at Olds and letting them eat would tell the tale of Power to weight

Fuck Olds. That's not even a hill anymore for this new breed of cars.

China? Maybe.

I'd like to see a race up Choke Cherry. That would separate the men from the boys.

 

[rivermobster]

Nevermind...

I forgot about Cinders. I'd like to change my vote to that.