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Well, our carrier group is now in the house. Suddenly I'm reminded of a kid, a few years younger than me, who lived down the street. He'd ride bikes with us, hang around kid. He went into the Marines out of school.

When I saw him next was about 2005. Sticker on his truck summed it up for me. "Support the Warrior, Not the War". He lost his left leg at the knee in Iraq. 25 years old or so, walking with a cane.

I think about this now. I'm too old and broken by military standards. One son, I don't think, could be called up. The other would be the perfect candidate, big, strong...and incredibly loyal to those he cares about.

I'm a bit worried for the future...and now isn't exactly a picnic.
 

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Well, our carrier group is now in the house. Suddenly I'm reminded of a kid, a few years younger than me, who lived down the street. He'd ride bikes with us, hang around kid. He went into the Marines out of school.

When I saw him next was about 2005. Sticker on his truck summed it up for me. "Support the Warrior, Not the War". He lost his left leg at the knee in Iraq. 25 years old or so, walking with a cane.

I think about this now. I'm too old and broken by military standards. One son, I don't think, could be called up. The other would be the perfect candidate, big, strong...and incredibly loyal to those he cares about.

I'm a bit worried for the future...and now isn't exactly a picnic.
Same boat, my son is a little younger but wars like what we are looking at don't end in a couple years. We're not dodging a draft or anything but we are already working on a couple of plans to hopefully keep him out of being a grunt.
 

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There will be no World War.
Only the spectre of one to wake the world.
 

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A few things have passed through news places, but I don't know if they are connected to this. Yesterday, two Georgia National Guard members died in "two separate incidents" but were "taken" to Baghdad where they were pronounced dead. Weird deal, as no causes or locations given. I'd assume AL Asad would have a hospital setup, but I don't know what they would be equipped for.

In other news, Isreal said yesterday they are debating a "preemptive" strike on Iran before they launch a counterattack...I'm a bit new to this logic, as preemptive would mean before...but they've already struck Iran. In most cases, I believe this would be just launching another attack.
Yesterday Houthis launched another 50 or so rockets into Israel, and Israel bombed a refugee camp...targeting militants, of course.

Oh, and the Yemeni branch of Ahkbar-barians managed to take down an MQ-9 Reaper...still had at least one missile aboard. Something tells me Chinese or Russian engineers are showing up with goat herds for trade.
 

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...and at least two B-2's were filmed landing in Qatar Saturday night/ Sunday morning. This could mean a lot of things, but I doubt they were out for a weekend cruise.
 

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Things are heating up in the Middle East and who’s currently running the store? Biden’s mostly non-functional and he’s on another one of his extended weekends and the history’s worst VP is out flying across the county speaking preselected blather because she’s too stupid to answer any real questions thrown at her and the democratic machine can’t let you see that. It’s another basement campaign.
 

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☝️….. will be interesting if things continue to escalate, how they’ll twist it into November….. I’m still waiting for another ‘zinger’ since an attempted assassination on a former US President has essentially been swept under the rug.
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Another carrier group was moved from the Persian Gulf into the strait of Hormuz...So there will be two within striking distance. Wednesday a dozen of our F-35's were deployed to some airbase in the UK...and I believe it was Friday afternoon the orders came down to deploy 4,000 Marines to the middle east to help secure bases.
 

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The Houthi's toyed with the U.S. Navy.

Not a Military man. But I dislike confined spaces. If you look at the map?

Kinda deploying a lotta eggs into one confined basket..
 

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Iron Dome Failure? Overnight Hezbollah Missile Salvo On Northern Israel Leads To Speculation

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Israel was supposed to be sending some Patriot batteries to Ukraine. Last week they stated that they would not, and be relocating them within the country. Probably a wise decision, makes sense. The issue is a Patriot system holds, I believe, 4 large missile assemblies. Each Iron Dome launcher holds 12 or 15 smaller assemblies.

Last week footage was everywhere showing a "drone" hit a car in traffic in Israel. I believe it killed a mother and child.
Israel quietly admitted later it was an Iron Dome rocket that missed it's target. With so many being launched, there has to be a percentage that miss. I haven't heard the total numbers, but they must be huge.
 

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Israel provokes Iran with an extreme violation of its sovereignty and then the US government spends untold billions of dollars to protect Israel from the ensuing response, while putting in harm's way our service members who have been led to believe it's a way of serving their country.



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Fucking war pigs............................. 🖕
 

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Israel provokes Iran with an extreme violation of its sovereignty and then the US government spends untold billions of dollars to protect Israel from the ensuing response, while putting in harm's way our service members who have been led to believe it's a way of serving their country.



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They want their world war.
Provoke and agitate much?

Something that is missed by many, people don't know that at least 3 Christian churches were destroyed in Gaza. This is not spoken of at all. There are factions within Israel that see every other religion as lesser humans. It's the same as others I guess.

Iran I feel has the right to strike Israel, as does Syria. Both of those countries have been struck multiple times on their own soil. Seems as though that alone would be justification. The US seems to feel it is fine for Israel to do so, as they back the groups attacking... Well then, if it is fine to attack those who support the attackers, what of the US backing Ukraine? It's a clusterfuck of epic proportions.

There have always been rumors that the US knew Pearl Harbor was coming, and the losses of both life and equipment were to galvanize the populace. Iran recently released images of their new hypersonic ship killer. We respond a month later by moving two carrier groups in...we have the air power to strike from afar, why don't we?
 

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Something that is missed by many, people don't know that at least 3 Christian churches were destroyed in Gaza. This is not spoken of at all. There are factions within Israel that see every other religion as lesser humans. It's the same as others I guess.

Iran I feel has the right to strike Israel, as does Syria. Both of those countries have been struck multiple times on their own soil. Seems as though that alone would be justification. The US seems to feel it is fine for Israel to do so, as they back the groups attacking... Well then, if it is fine to attack those who support the attackers, what of the US backing Ukraine? It's a clusterfuck of epic proportions.

There have always been rumors that the US knew Pearl Harbor was coming, and the losses of both life and equipment were to galvanize the populace. Iran recently released images of their new hypersonic ship killer. We respond a month later by moving two carrier groups in...we have the air power to strike from afar, why don't we?


"Supporting", OR "Pussy Footing" around, giving just enough to keep this "Joke" continuing? F F S, we are up in Space at the Space Station with Russian Cosmonauts, then Begging for Hostages to be returned. Then sending enough "$'s" to put up a fight.

Get It ON, Or Get The "F" OUT!!

We are "Dabbling" here and there, with a Military that is in no shape to be in any War let alone multiple ones.
 

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Full Steam Ahead!!- 24-7 Relentless Attacks to Signal that this "plan" will not end until the "MISSION" is complete.

Never Forget, Or Forgive!!
Drove a few hundred miles last night, listened to Coast to Coast AM. One of the guests spoke of some things that 20 years ago I would have laughed at. The "Four Horseman" are riding...Conquest, War, Famine and Death. Good and Evil not divided by the borders of man. The gates of hell will open and set forth the worst things imaginable.
 

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How in the fuck do they make a MINOR accounting error like that?? Who ever signed off on that should be swinging from the gallows. Absolute bullshit.
And why do they only make accounting errors like that when handing money out to other countries? MF'rs know down to the penny how much we owe them, never mess that one up!
 

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wonder of the Taliban will be sending Obama a thank you note for this ERROR, frosting on the cake to top the 85 billon in military equipment that Joe lef in Afghanistan
 

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When you do this to a city, I don't think freeing hostages was ever a main goal...
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This is what's left of Rafah, where the bodies were found. It's also the border crossing to Egypt. These pics are not very recent. The border crossing itself was bombed not long after October 7th. This also includes the refugees trying to get to Egypt, as well as Egyptian aid trying to come across.

Israel, just since last October, has bombed Egypt, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Iran and Lebanon...and I may be missing one or two. I don't know what the body count is, nor how many bombs dropped, but a lot.
 

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They need some Cats to push that shit in the ocean. Leave them no place to hide.
 

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They need some Cats to push that shit in the ocean. Leave them no place to hide.
To some extent I agree...if they chose only to kill armed combatants. They currently use armored CATs to bulldoze through everything after the bombing runs. Videos are out there, showing "rogue" IDF equipment operators and what they do.

Wishing for the eradication of an entire people is never a good thing. Oddly enough, the last time it happened in great scale it was against the Jewish population. As a country, we went to war because of it. When the Christians are killed in Africa, or Armenia, we don't speak of it. "Christians" and "Muslims" speak of the Crusades as simply one against the other. Maybe true of the first, but still debatable. The following crusades were for power and trade routes. Even as far back as the 11th century, alliances were made between the Christians, the Muslims and even the Jewish people...all in the same area they fight in now.
 

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A "WAR WITH RULES" does not work. North Viet Nam, South Viet Nam, the "DMZ" and on and on!! when President Trump returns to Office, he claims that he will end this fight. I am a strong supporter of his plan, but if he believes a "Truce" is his plan, I'm out. These people have been F***ING" with this Shit for years. Israel needs to Eliminate Hamas once and for all or I vote No more $'s We have way too many serious issues that need money and help to continue throwing money at these endless Wars and the Corrupt "SOB'S" running them.
 

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Well, all things considered there will be no stand down of Hamas.. THe entire world see's the U.S. despite all her might as a rudderless ship adrift with no captain. There's no upside to surrender. They want and need this war to exist. The populace aquiesce to or are on board with the destruction of Israel, refuse their right to exist, vow death to the Jews and refuse to let Israel live in peace. WTF would you do.

Hamas just assasinated 6 more hostages as the IDF was closing in. Tragic. RIP, All the victims but Israel didn't start this shit. Hamas are Barbarians.

The U.N is complicit. Nit-wit pea brained sheeple bused in implants all over protest for Hamas. Glad I live out in the 'Dirt.' Good Grief. Godspeed All.
 
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I will Never Forget, and often think about a 60-minutes interview Mike Wallace conducted with General Westmoreland, on the Vietnam War. The General's Son had Cancer and by all accounts was the result of being covered in "Agent Orange" Mike began a question with "If you knew then", The general forcefully said "STOP MIKE" and then Wallace continued with Even Knowing your Son would be inflicted with Cancer later in life? General Westmoreland sat there motionless, not saying a word and Staring down at Mike Wallace, and finally replied, "I would change nothing, and This is War, and I would do the same thing again"!!


DAMN!! from that day on my thoughts on War changed. You have a choice to either "IF" in your Morals, Thoughts, or Policy to Go To War, then DO IT and accept the Consequences with only One Objective, WIN THE DAMN WAR.

OR!!

You decide to Stay Out Of The Conflict, AND Accept Consequences whatever it may be, But once that is the decision, No "Second Guessing"

Close The BOOK!!
 

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Everyone who seems to push for war is beyond fighting age, has no children or fully believes it cannot happen here.

Everyone knows what countries Israel has bombed. Why did they bomb them? For supporting Hamas or whatever other groups have attacked Israel. Think about that. Other countries, very big countries, are watching the US arm their opponents or geographical quests. When things happen here, people may be shocked, but it is most assuredly a possibility.

I honestly believe I've been left on this earth to protect my kin. Destroying those of differing ideology does nothing to further humanity. October 7th has been placed as the date in which this started. September 11th was a date that started 2 separate wars for us. Both dates were preceeded by years of actions from both sides, but people only see the bright and shiny.

A World War is already upon mankind, but some don't see it. Maybe the explosions aren't big enough, or maybe because it's not on our porch. Who is good and who is evil is not as defined as borders drawn.
 

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Did anyone see any of the videos out of Tel Aviv from yesterday? I don't know their political stuff, right, left, really Jewish, not-as-Jewish...but there were huge protests in the streets against Netanyahu. People are pissed about the hostages, but also pissed that Netanyahu declined a cease fire in the area that would have freed those hostages. At the protests, the cops were using tear gas, fire hoses and what looked like the fire fighting foam on one group that was sitting. Never seen that before.
 

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let's have some common ground and sacrifice our children...

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The common ground isn't common. One side wants bombs to stop, the other wants to eradicate a population. At this point, the records are in disarray anyway. Already numbers coming out in the area of 10-15,000 children dead already. Makes their vaccine quest easier.

Here's a bit of an interesting thought. There are essentially three "Abrahamic" religions...Christianity, Judaism and Islam. All three share more than they differ, and all three have been corrupted by greed, power...basically all the mortal sins all three supposedly preach against. Satan was once an angel...

"Your heart became proud on account of your beauty, and you corrupted your wisdom because of your splendor. So I threw you to the earth; I made a spectacle of you before kings. By your many sins and dishonest trade you have desecrated your sanctuaries. So I made a fire come out from you, and it consumed you, and I reduced you to ashes on the ground in the sight of all who were watching." – Ezekiel 28
 
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