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Xtrmwakeboarder said:
@shintoooo you all good?
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Yes. Sitting here having a drink with my wife. Everything happened so fast. I saw it from my office and couldn’t believe it. It seemed as if everyone was going home for the same reason. Everyone was driving fast but good. I even had a guy let me get in front of him. God sent lol. I felt like Ice Cube after it was all said and done.😎 😂

 
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Just saw this on ring and thought I would pass it along, this is what most of us are thinking

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I don't think the guy caught in Topanga area started the Kenneth fire, he was over 5 miles away by the way a crow flys, with everyone responding and people getting out I think someone would have spotted him walking down the street with a torch in his hand
 
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4Waters said:
Just saw this on ring and thought I would pass it along, this is what most of us are thinking

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I don't think the guy caught in Topanga area started the Kenneth fire, he was over 5 miles away by the way a crow flys, with everyone responding and people getting out I think someone would have spotted him walking down the street with a torch in his hand
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Maybe the FBI could do something useful for a change and figure out WTH is going on with these fires and if there are connections between the arsons and their afilitations or who is paying/instigating them.
 
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Armageddon has descended on LA it seems......what would be the brakes that could possibly stop this from descending further?

Last I heard the winds were going to kick up again last night into today. Hopefully it died down

Any arsonist seen or looters ID needs dealt with right there on the spot. I have no idea how if you saw either how you could stop yourself from doing some serious damage to that person.....
 
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Winds appear to be dying down / very minimal. Hopefully they can get it contained today. Way too much destruction has been done.
 
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This shit is devastating. All of those memories and family pictures you can never replace, gone. The fridge wall papered with pictures, gone. The birthday cards and Xmas cards with handwritten notes, gone. The memories of sitting around the dinner table at Thanksgiving with all of your children all arguing with one another, gone.

Wake Up World on Instagram: "So many families are facing unimaginable loss in Southern California 💔 📌 #Altadena | #California Fran lost the home she’s lived in for 26 years as devastating wildfires continue to tear through the Palisades, Eaton, and

83K likes, 6,523 comments - wakeupwxrld on January 9, 2025: "So many families are facing unimaginable loss in Southern California 💔 📌 #Altadena | #California Fran lost the home she’s lived in for 26 years as devastating wildfires continue to tear through the Palisades, Eaton, and Los Angeles...
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How many people here have an actual "fire plan", I know everyone talks about what they would grab and whatnot, but how many people have an actual plan, that they have put on paper and practiced for?? My wife, 14yo son, and I talked a lot about this last night and decided we need to put something in place so that we all know what our job is if something were to happen.

I think there is a couple of different scenarios to consider:

1. Fire started in the distance but close enough that we could be in trouble. We have time to prepare incase of evacuation.
2. Fire started maybe at neighbors house and is getting bigger, possibility of jumping over to our house. Gives us a little time to get things together.
3. Fire started in our house, there is zero time to give and need to evacuate immediately.

I think a good plan is to have something set up for each scenario. I don't know what that looks like yet, but that is something I am going to work on.
 
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rivrrts429 said:
This shit is devastating. All of those memories and family pictures you can never replace, gone. The fridge wall papered with pictures, gone. The birthday cards and Xmas cards with handwritten notes, gone. The memories of sitting around the dinner table at Thanksgiving with all of your children all arguing with one another, gone.

Wake Up World on Instagram: "So many families are facing unimaginable loss in Southern California 💔 📌 #Altadena | #California Fran lost the home she’s lived in for 26 years as devastating wildfires continue to tear through the Palisades, Eaton, and

83K likes, 6,523 comments - wakeupwxrld on January 9, 2025: "So many families are facing unimaginable loss in Southern California 💔 📌 #Altadena | #California Fran lost the home she’s lived in for 26 years as devastating wildfires continue to tear through the Palisades, Eaton, and Los Angeles...
www.instagram.com
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You are 100% correct, that's the one loss that no amount of money can replace or rebuild. This is why us old bastards burden and bore our children and grandchildren and often total strangers with our stories, all to often ones told before.
As we talk, images appear in our minds. It's like watching a re-run of an old movie and very gratifying as those faded memories slip back into our conscious before fading away again.
Out of everything we lost, it's the numerous albums of pictures both my wife and I miss the most. If our home burned tomorrow, there's not a thing in this house that holds any special feelings and that's older than 2010, except us of course. ;)
 
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Badchoices03 said:
How many people here have an actual "fire plan", I know everyone talks about what they would grab and whatnot, but how many people have an actual plan, that they have put on paper and practiced for?? My wife, 14yo son, and I talked a lot about this last night and decided we need to put something in place so that we all know what our job is if something were to happen.

I think there is a couple of different scenarios to consider:

1. Fire started in the distance but close enough that we could be in trouble. We have time to prepare incase of evacuation.
2. Fire started maybe at neighbors house and is getting bigger, possibility of jumping over to our house. Gives us a little time to get things together.
3. Fire started in our house, there is zero time to give and need to evacuate immediately.

I think a good plan is to have something set up for each scenario. I don't know what that looks like yet, but that is something I am going to work on.
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We have had one since the Carlsbad fires in 2014.
It covers item 1 and could cover item 2. Item 3 IMO, you can’t plan for.

It includes a ‘go-bag’ that contains 3 days of clothing for each person (repacked based on season). We also store the RV off-site and that has clothing. All important paperwork and what photo albums and key photos / artwork from the walls.

I also take a video and pics annually that cover everything inside the house. Stored in the cloud and our phones.
 
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In the mix of all those multi million dollar homes and not one person had an external fire protection system installed or did they and couldn't get water or what? Are they illegal out there or something?
 
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Roosky01 said:
In the mix of all those multi million dollar homes and not one person had an external fire protection system installed or did they and couldn't get water or what? Are they illegal out there or something?
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They pretty much lost all pressure at one point. A lot of the home have/had fire sprinklers.
 
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rivrrts429 said:
This shit is devastating. All of those memories and family pictures you can never replace, gone. The fridge wall papered with pictures, gone. The birthday cards and Xmas cards with handwritten notes, gone. The memories of sitting around the dinner table at Thanksgiving with all of your children all arguing with one another, gone.

Wake Up World on Instagram: "So many families are facing unimaginable loss in Southern California 💔 📌 #Altadena | #California Fran lost the home she’s lived in for 26 years as devastating wildfires continue to tear through the Palisades, Eaton, and

83K likes, 6,523 comments - wakeupwxrld on January 9, 2025: "So many families are facing unimaginable loss in Southern California 💔 📌 #Altadena | #California Fran lost the home she’s lived in for 26 years as devastating wildfires continue to tear through the Palisades, Eaton, and Los Angeles...
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So very true. Living this now my sister and family. They are a family of 8. A few times i have heard "Oh I have" then a sigh and a pusse from all of us. Last night was the twin girls 22 birthday. We celebrated best we could at my aunts home. To bad ice cream cake can't fix stuff anymore.
 
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evantwheeler said:
Maybe the FBI could do something useful for a change and figure out WTH is going on with these fires and if there are connections between the arsons and their afilitations or who is paying/instigating them.
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If Trump was in prison none of this would have happened, according to Christopher Ray...
 
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Roosky01 said:
In the mix of all those multi million dollar homes and not one person had an external fire protection system installed or did they and couldn't get water or what? Are they illegal out there or something?
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There is an interview, it’s available on YouTube YouTube. Interviewing resident of the Palisades. Three generations with the patriarch Coming off with a Germanic accent. Have a swimming pool and a pump. They saved their own home and two neighbors homes.
Unfortunately, for the majority of people that live in those neighborhoods, they are not equipped to do much more than make reservations.
 
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Bobby V said:
Residential fire sprinklers are designed to save lives / exit. Commercial fire sprinklers are designed to save lives and property. But with little water pressure they wont work as designed anyway.
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How will the water mains in the area even be able to handle all the new builds since they require fire sprinklers?

Most probably had them already due to size , location and newer builds. But now that they will all require them. I imagine all new mains will have to be installed.
 
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How will the water mains in the area even be able to handle all the new builds since they require fire sprinklers?

Most probably had them already due to size , location and newer builds. But now that they will all require them. I imagine all new mains will have to be installed.
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For residential the new fire mains are 1 1/2" to 2" depending on the psi and gpm in the area. They are usually feed from the domestic pipes. Commercial need a minimum of 4" off of a separate fire main.
 
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Bobby V said:
For residential the new fire mains are 1 1/2" to 2" depending on the psi and gpm in the area. They are usually feed from the domestic pipes. Commercial need a minimum of 4" off of a separate fire main.
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I guess I worded it wrong the city side supply mains. That feed the houses. They won't have the capacity.

I have built a few with 1 1/2" mains to feed the house. Required paying for a new supply from city to water meter and up-sizing the meter.
 
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NicPaus said:
How will the water mains in the area even be able to handle all the new builds since they require fire sprinklers?

Most probably had them already due to size , location and newer builds. But now that they will all require them. I imagine all new mains will have to be installed.
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In our rural area up on a hill, 23 homes were lost and were rebuilt, all with newly required interior sprinkler systems.
None of the infrastructure was enlarged, but due to our elevation, in almost all cases, including our own, pressure pumps were required to be installed on the service that serves the sprinkler system.
This also now requires a new backflow preventor at the meter, which is required for all interior sprinklered services.
Where it gets more complicated was how each home was served and distance to meter etc..
Because the backflow prevention reduces pressure, depending our your elevation proximity to the storage tank level, some homes then required whole house water pressurizing pumps for both domestic and fire.
In some cases, owners were able to add a 2nd water meter and because it's dedicated to the sprinkler system they were able to do so at a reduced meter hookup fee and monthly meter charges.
It's complicated, but infrastructure at least in our case, is not designed to serve a wildfire scenario and save homes, it's designed to protect lives during a random fire event.
 
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Bobby V said:
For residential the new fire mains are 1 1/2" to 2" depending on the psi and gpm in the area. They are usually feed from the domestic pipes. Commercial need a minimum of 4" off of a separate fire main.
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I can guarantee you, not a single home in our area has anything larger than a 3/4" meter (Although some have two 1/2") and we're all 1/2 acre+ with 40-45psi the average due to elevation proximity to the water tank and that was before they required the backflow prevention required by the sprinkler system. They did require that we all add sprinkler pressure pumps.
 
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Taboma said:
I can guarantee you, not a single home in our area has anything larger than a 3/4" meter (Although some have two 1/2") and we're all 1/2 acre+ with 40-45psi the average due to elevation proximity to the water tank and that was before they required the backflow prevention required by the sprinkler system. They did require that we all add sprinkler pressure pumps.
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Yes. With a booster pump you can reduce the fire main size as long as the calcs work to the furthest fire sprinkler.
 
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You know the climate change people will be out in full force soon. But tell me this?

So cal has had record rain the last couple of years. So can’t say years of drought cuz it didn’t happen. Also it wasn’t super warm too. Just super windy.

I also saw 3 videos

Blow torch man
Saw some kids throwing 5 gallon gans cans full on the side of the road every 1/2 mile or so.
Also saw another video where people were lighting businesses on fire in PP.

I hope people really wake up and realize that our leaders are very very incompetent and people should honestly be jailed for there negligence
 
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NicPaus said:
How will the water mains in the area even be able to handle all the new builds since they require fire sprinklers?

Most probably had them already due to size , location and newer builds. But now that they will all require them. I imagine all new mains will have to be installed.
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Maybe water tanks? But they are not pretty so probably not.
 
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DILLIGAF said:
I wonder if that guy had insurance as he may have paid cash. He doesn't seem to make very good fiscal choices but hey.....I don't have what he has so who the F am I to question....lol
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I would have left California, he probably votes D and loves it here
 
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Bpracing1127 said:
You know the climate change people will be out in full force soon. But tell me this?

So cal has had record rain the last couple of years. So can’t say years of drought cuz it didn’t happen. Also it wasn’t super warm too. Just super windy.

I also saw 3 videos

Blow torch man
Saw some kids throwing 5 gallon gans cans full on the side of the road every 1/2 mile or so.
Also saw another video where people were lighting businesses on fire in PP.

I hope people really wake up and realize that our leaders are very very incompetent and people should honestly be jailed for there negligence
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Post the links.
 
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My mistake. Climate change was not caught..

Apparently walking around with a MAPP gas torches and trying to light fires is not arson..

LAPD says that there no probable cause for arson regarding a suspect arrested with a blow torch and actively trying to ignite fires.

Make it make sense!

His name is still unknown.

But it’s apparent these days that an unknown name is a sanctuary city code for “it’s an illegal alien that we are trying to illegally harbor to shield from any deportation and give a free pass to on any crime they committed.”
 
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