Titanic Tour Submarine Missing.

[RiverDave]

Wife and I did an Atlantis Submarine in Kona to around 100', that was really cool

We did it as well

 

[MPHSystems]

Here’s a real deal sub with port holes.

DSV Limiting Factor - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

What an unadulterated pile of crap! I read the whole thing and that POS doesn’t have a single X-box controller or grab handle from the discount bin at camping world. Who the fuck do they think they are fooling? Limiting factor my ass, should be called “limited budget”

 

[rivergames]

Desperate Last-Ditch Attempt To Rescue Titanic Sub Begins

As time runs out for the passengers on the Titan submersible that went looking deep into the sea for wreckage of the Titanic, a last-ditch effort involving heavy machinery and submarines arrived in Newfoundland on Tuesday night. Three C-17 aircraft from the U.S. Air Force reportedly landed at a...

www.dailywire.com

 

[RiverDave]

Nobody seemed interested in my Bahamas thread, so I just let it go.

I’m interested!

 

[MPHSystems]

I can't believe every comment is I would never...... I couldn't afford it but I would.

I would rather live to 50 then die at 100 having never lived.

I’m 56…. I still have a lot of living left in me

 

[4Waters]

Desperate Last-Ditch Attempt To Rescue Titanic Sub Begins

As time runs out for the passengers on the Titan submersible that went looking deep into the sea for wreckage of the Titanic, a last-ditch effort involving heavy machinery and submarines arrived in Newfoundland on Tuesday night. Three C-17 aircraft from the U.S. Air Force reportedly landed at a...

www.dailywire.com

Sounds like they found something

 

[4Waters]

I can't believe every comment is I would never...... I couldn't afford it but I would.

I would rather live to 50 then die at 100 having never lived.

Not in that rickety ass thing, maybe James Cameron's or the one that @hallett21 posted

 

[rivergames]

Sounds like they found something

Can only hope. My guess is they are showing the world that they are doing anything possible to save these guys lives or at least bring the wreckage to the surface

 

[MPHSystems]

Sounds like they found something

Sounds like they heard something and are staggering recovery equipment in case they find it. Notice I said “recovery equipment” and not “rescue equipment”?

 

[RiverDave]

Some of the comments here have me scratching my head. Hopefully they come out of it alive. After watching some specials about the Kursk a month ago it settles in that they are in a shitty situation, something to not really make fun of. Just like the Kursk they set off on an adventure/event expecting to return to the surface... shit happened and some suffered for awhile before dying a painful, scary, and hopeless death.

Honestly that’s kind of how I feel about it.. I don’t see the humor in the memes

 

[4Waters]

Sounds like they heard something and are staggering recovery equipment in case they find it. Notice I said “recovery equipment” and not “rescue equipment”?

Oh yeah, I completely agree it's gonna be a recovery

 

[MPHSystems]

Oh yeah, I completely agree it's gonna be a recovery

I hope we are wrong.

 

[4Waters]

I hope we are wrong.

Me too

 

[Singleton]

Sounds like they heard something and are staggering recovery equipment in case they find it. Notice I said “recovery equipment” and not “rescue equipment”?

100%.
I think they will find it (or the US Navy already know where it is), but recovering will take time and not enough air is left to save those crazy enough to do this type of adventure.

 

[Mototrig]

This isn't much of an update. Just something new.

Missing Titanic submersible live updates: Search expands 'exponentially'; more sounds heard

The search for a missing Titanic tourist submersible is now in an area roughly two times the size of Connecticut and 2.5 miles deep, officials say.

www.usatoday.com

 

[hallett21]

Does anyone know why they bolt it from the outside? I would think you could achieve the same seal on the inside?

 

[evantwheeler]

Real bummer. This venture is no different than that of Musk & Bezos & Branson chasing flight into space. There will undoubtedly be tragedies and loss of life through the development of technologies for civilian space travel.

 

[rivergames]

Real bummer. This venture is no different than that of Musk & Bezos & Branson chasing flight into space. There will undoubtedly be tragedies and loss of life through the development of technologies for civilian space travel.

Civilian Space Travel worries me. I hope I'm long gone before I see that go down!

 

[Done-it-again]

Does anyone know why they bolt it from the outside? I would think you could achieve the same seal on the inside?

Probably didn't want to rely on carrying the necessary impact gun inside.....What happens if the battery died and they cant get out?

 

[SoCalDave]

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Does anyone know why they bolt it from the outside? I would think you could achieve the same seal on the inside?

Pressure

 

[coolchange]

They’re going at in the wrong direction.
Drag a couple lifting bags down there with the ROV, snatch it. Pull the pin and get the fuck out the way.

 

[clarence]

To some it would be a big feather in their cap to say have been to Titanic. Similar to Everest.

I've said lots of things to get laid. They didn't have to be true.

 

[Crazyhippy]

They’re going at in the wrong direction.
Drag a couple lifting bags down there with the ROV, snatch it. Pull the pin and get the fuck out the way.

Have to be some really strong bags. Imagine the expansion from 5000psi to ambient! Bags would get larger as they get shallower, and the sub would be accelerating towards the surface.

May be able to sell it as a 2 for 1, visit the Titanic, and become an astronaut all in one day!

 

[rrrr]

Lol
Well, we recently fished a $2 million BHA string out from 16,400’. 7” cased to 11,000’, open hole (6 1/8”) from 11,000’ to the top of fish.
String was differentially stick so we ran a free point log and shot it off, then went in with an overshot and hyd jars.

You sound like the guy on the Retrocabulator video.

 

[Richard.E]

Real bummer. This venture is no different than that of Musk & Bezos & Branson chasing flight into space. There will undoubtedly be tragedies and loss of life through the development of technologies for civilian space travel.

I would say this particular event and the work SpaceX has been doing isn’t in the the same conversation..
Trial and Error…. Learn thru mistakes. Rather be bold and take risks. Typically what spurs innovation and change.

Not to mention it’s not like NASA didn’t kill a bunch of people in multiple incidents over the years.

 

[rrrr]

Does anyone know why they bolt it from the outside? I would think you could achieve the same seal on the inside?

Because the joint has to resist pressure above 5,500 PSI at depth. The exterior of the titanium hatch is machined with bolt pads around the circumference, and there are threaded titanium inserts formed into the carbon fiber hull. The sealing surface looks to be at least five inches wide.

There's no way the required clamping force could be accomplished using an internal fastening scheme.

 

[pronstar]

Does anyone know why they bolt it from the outside? I would think you could achieve the same seal on the inside?

So they can get it open in the event of a recovery operation is my guess

 

[hallett21]

I’m

Because the joint has to resist pressure above 5,500 PSI at depth. The exterior of the titanium hatch is oversized with bolt pads around the circumference, and there are threaded titanium inserts formed into the carbon fiber hull.

There's no way the required clamping force could be accomplished using an internal fastening scheme.

does the outside pressure not “work with you” to maintain the seal?

 

[pronstar]

Real bummer. This venture is no different than that of Musk & Bezos & Branson chasing flight into space. There will undoubtedly be tragedies and loss of life through the development of technologies for civilian space travel.

Based on the limited info that’s been posted, it seems this sub has a bit of blatant disregard for accepted safety standards.

I mean, the whistleblower engineer was unseccessfully sued by the company for violating the NDA.
Some of the reported equipment ratings were for 1/3 the depth.
And it seems that destructive testing that other subs go thru was willfully not done, and they relied on”the science”

I’m no expert on this stuff, just from what I’m reading over the last few days.

 

[rrrr]

I’m

does the outside pressure not “work with you” to maintain the seal?

Sure, but that pressure also wants to compromise the joint.

 

[Nordie]

There might not be one single cable that long but you could splice cables together.

Between two winches you could alternate winding them in while the other winch feeds out the last used cable. Coil the cable on the deck or throw it overboard as they come up.

I did the math on if that submersible was at the Titanic, and a 1" cable. That's 260,000kish pounds. That's a lot of weight to move around to make any kind of connection. Also dropping it straight down it would probably still be thousands of feet off.

I want to hope for the best, but I think this submersible is now a tomb.

 

[RiverDave]

Sure, but that pressure also wants to compromise the joint.

Could be overcome with a lip?

 

[pronstar]

Because the joint has to resist pressure above 5,500 PSI at depth. The exterior of the titanium hatch is machined with bolt pads around the circumference, and there are threaded titanium inserts formed into the carbon fiber hull. The sealing surface looks to be at least five inches wide.

There's no way the required clamping force could be accomplished using an internal fastening scheme.

Rolex uses a similar mechanism for the ring lock on the Deep Sea, methinks.

Rolex Sea-Dweller Deepsea: How Does the Ring Lock System Works?

The Rolex Sea-Dweller Deepsea is the most robust and over-engineered dive watch in Rolex’s current lineup and features a highly specialized case structure.

www.bobswatches.com

Worst-case and grim, everyone dies but the watch would survive. Rolex had James Cameron affixed to the outside of his sub to prove the depth rating.

Photo Report: The Rolex Deep Sea Challenge That Accompanied James Cameron Into The Mariana Trench

Back in 1960, Rolex solidifed itself as THE manufacture of the world's finest dive watches by strapping a bulbous experimental dive watch called the Deepsea Special to the outside of the Bathyscaphe Triese as it descended 39,000 feet into the deepest part of the world's ocean. Last year, James...

www.hodinkee.com

 

[C-Ya]

I just hope that the mystery of the missing submersible gets solved.

It is highly likely that we will never know what happened. 20 years from now, they won’t know any more than they know today.

Its an interesting mystery that I would like to know the final outcome of, sooner than later.

It sure would be interesting if the submersible is found in the future, sitting un-imploded, on the bottom, miles from the Titanic. Once the found submersible would be pulled back onto ship, we could then see what these guys wrote or did, once they knew it was all over. That would be an interesting conclusion.

 

[4Waters]

I just hope that the mystery of the missing submersible gets solved.

It is highly likely that we will never know what happened. 20 years from now, they won’t know any more than they know today.

Its an interesting mystery that I would like to know the final outcome of, sooner than later.

It sure would be interesting if the submersible is found in the future, sitting un-imploded, on the bottom, miles from the Titanic. Once the found submersible would be pulled back onto ship, we could then see what these guys wrote or did, once they knew it was all over. That would be an interesting conclusion.

This very well could be the flight MH370 of the ocean, it's been almost 10 years and we still don't know what happened to that plane and likely never will.

 

[lbhsbz]

Sounds like they found something

I guess we should prepare for an "ocean research tax" to cover the cost of this shitshow.

 

[Racey]

Hopefully they wait to send inspirational rescuers, and not 50 year old white guys.

 

[poncho]

I just hope that the mystery of the missing submersible gets solved.

It is highly likely that we will never know what happened. 20 years from now, they won’t know any more than they know today.

Its an interesting mystery that I would like to know the final outcome of, sooner than later.

It sure would be interesting if the submersible is found in the future, sitting un-imploded, on the bottom, miles from the Titanic. Once the found submersible would be pulled back onto ship, we could then see what these guys wrote or did, once they knew it was all over. That would be an interesting conclusion.

Me and a co worker were just discussing this. I wouldn't watch but it would be interesting to know the human dynamics when 5 people know their fate.
Assuming there is some sort of recording device onboard.

 

[2Driver]

Be cool if there was a miracle. God knows we are due for a feel good story.

 

[Racey]

This very well could be the flight MH370 of the ocean, it's been almost 10 years and we still don't know what happened to that plane and likely never will.

I watched a pretty good documentary on it, it pretty much looks like the pilots purposely crashed it.

They followed all the known flight data and the pilots purposely turned the plane the wrong direction then made the ATC calls for the hand-offs into other airspace, and purposely flew right along the demarcation lines between 2 or 3 international airspace bodies so that each of the sectors would assume they were being directed by the other ATCs.

 

[4Waters]

I watched a pretty good documentary on it, it pretty much looks like the pilots purposely crashed it.

They followed all the known flight data and the pilots purposely turned the plane the wrong direction then made the ATC calls for the hand-offs into other airspace, and purposely flew right along the demarcation lines between 2 or 3 international airspace bodies so that each of the sectors would assume they were being directed by the other ATCs.

I'll try to remember to watch that

 

[Ziggy]

I would say this particular event and the work SpaceX has been doing isn’t in the the same conversation..
Trial and Error…. Learn thru mistakes. Rather be bold and take risks. Typically what spurs innovation and change.

Not to mention it’s not like NASA didn’t kill a bunch of people in multiple incidents over the years.

Like the dude trying to launch himself in some home built rocket.

 

[hallett21]

Like the dude trying to launch himself in some home built rocket.

I love that guy. Trolled flat earthers and got them to donate to his rocket. He was going “prove” the earth was flat.

Hell of a final ride lol

 

[SoCalDave]

Like the dude trying to launch himself in some home built rocket.

or this idiot

 

[coolchange]

Have to be some really strong bags. Imagine the expansion from 5000psi to ambient! Bags would get larger as they get shallower, and the sub would be accelerating towards the surface.

May be able to sell it as a 2 for 1, visit the Titanic, and become an astronaut all in one day!

No because lift bags are open on the bottom. The sub would have some kind of bladder to maintain neutral buoyancy

 

[cofooter]

This very well could be the flight MH370 of the ocean, it's been almost 10 years and we still don't know what happened to that plane and likely never will.

Was thinking that as well, the ocean is a huge place. The technology to explore large areas does not yet exist........

 

[Devilman]

I love that guy. Trolled flat earthers and got them to donate to his rocket. He was going “prove” the earth was flat.

Hell of a final ride lol

I remember when he was on Tosh.0, funny shit... RIP Rocket dude

 

[monkeyswrench]

Like the dude trying to launch himself in some home built rocket.

Pretty sure the guy that died a year or two ago was a "flatearther" in a steam powered rocket. Think about that for a few moments...

 

[was thatguy]

Absolutely..

If that Sub is currently intact how much would it weigh being pressurized and all?

The people alone are probably 1000 pounds.
5 guys at 200 each more or less?
The thing probably weighs more than that? Add in drag and it’s like pulling in a flat dumpster lid.
The logistics are stifling.
Even if they knew exactly where it was, and went straight down and latched on to it (assuming it’s not being pushed all over the ocean floor) then your looking at retrieval while drifting as to decrease weight and drag coefficient its basically impossible in a limited time frame.
Worst case scenario is if it did not implode, best case is they imploded and died instantly.
Unless of course they are bobbing around somewhere, I’ve been wrong before, it wouldn’t be terrible to be wrong now.

 

[SoCalDave]

Keep in mind the weight in water is equal to its weight out of the water minus the weight of the amount of water displaced. You have to know the weight of the displaced water which is simply the number of liters times its density, 1 kg per liter.