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dirtslinger2 said:
washed?
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Heard stories from some of the UTV racers that they wash the belts in hot soapy water, then break them in, then place them as a spare....

Not sure if it's just extra steps or if it actually helps, but i doubt it hurts anything.
 
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stonehenge said:
New belt every season, regardless of hours. oem

New washed and broken in brand new spare belt in a sealed food saver bag. oem

Two slightly used belts on board for friends, strangers who own a gayzer, and just in case. oem

Don't waste your money on non oem belts. fyi

Yea, sand.
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That was the same for me.. Get it serviced every season, change the belt no matter what.. Take the previous belt keep it in the car and throw the year before on the other side.. Never kept a car that long, but if I did the year previous to that I'd throw away or keep in a tool box then throw away.. LOL

I've never had good luck with aftermarket belts.. OEM for me as well.

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Santee_Native said:
Logistics seem to be handled.
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Jeff Pont on Instagram: "Robby Gordon Speed UTV"

1,196 likes, 41 comments - 1badtoyfactory on September 6, 2023: "Robby Gordon Speed UTV".
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If you catch it at the end of the video he has obviously made a deal to get space from Jeff Pont at one of his warehouses in So cal. Prolly having Robby build him a 1 off car for trade on space plus $$$. Pure speculation but pont has a hell of a collection and I am sure it will include a sick speed car soon.
 
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RiverDave said:
That was the same for me.. Get it serviced every season, change the belt no matter what.. Take the previous belt keep it in the car and throw the year before on the other side.. Never kept a car that long, but if I did the year previous to that I'd throw away or keep in a tool box then throw away.. LOL

I've never had good luck with aftermarket belts.. OEM for me as well.

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What do they get to service these at a dealer? I just bought a used 2020 XP4 turbo with 70 hours on it and did front diff, rear diff/trans, motor oil/filter, air filter, plugs, and a “clutch service” and it took me about 2 hours on my garage floor, taking my time. I’m repacking all the wheel bearings next (waiting on tool) but what else is there?
 
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JM21 said:
What do they get to service these at a dealer? I just bought a used 2020 XP4 turbo with 70 hours on it and did front diff, rear diff/trans, motor oil/filter, air filter, plugs, and a “clutch service” and it took me about 2 hours on my garage floor, taking my time. I’m repacking all the wheel bearings next (waiting on tool) but what else is there?
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I’d have to go back and look.. but it’s kinda pricey….

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JM21 said:
If you catch it at the end of the video he has obviously made a deal to get space from Jeff Pont at one of his warehouses in So cal. Prolly having Robby build him a 1 off car for trade on space plus $$$. Pure speculation but pont has a hell of a collection and I am sure it will include a sick speed car soon.
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Why is the video flipped? Like looking at a mirror reflection. Backwards numbers
 
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riverroyal said:
Why is the video flipped? Like looking at a mirror reflection. Backwards numbers
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If you watched the video, he was having trouble getting his camera from selfie mode back to camera, so he just turned it around.
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Be careful throwing stones...
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No worries here, this shits been pointed out about every single thing wrong with the Speed.
 
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Someone has to have the story here. This supposedly happed at the Havasu dealer event today.
 
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dirtslinger2 said:
No worries here, this shits been pointed out about every single thing wrong with the Speed.
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I have not talked shit about the Speed cars at all. Just saying, shit is going to break on every brand of car out there. From what I have read, the above car is one of the ones that has been a test rig. It already has some hard miles on it. I replaced all of the known weak points on my X3 before I ever drove it, including the lower from A-arms. I think these new cars will be much better out of the box than the X3 but there will still be weak points.
 
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I have not talked shit about the Speed cars at all. Just saying, shit is going to break on every brand of car out there. From what I have read, the above car is one of the ones that has been a test rig. It already has some hard miles on it. I replaced all of the known weak points on my X3 before I ever drove it, including the lower from A-arms. I think these new cars will be much better out of the box than the X3 but there will still be weak points.
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Nothing was directed at anyone individual, but this forum has been a Speed/RG hating topic for quite some time, with every single failure/setback pointed out.

I just couldn't pass up the opportunity to point out that, yes, shit breaks, every single thing.
 
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Santee_Native said:
Article says they hit the right front tire and it exploded. Replaced tire and continued on. Didn’t say anything about the arm breaking on the drivers side. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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He said it had a tiny bend in it and they continued on after replacing the tire.

When the X3 was released I met Can am out in Glamis to test ride it for a few hours. The dealers had their day the day before. There were several smashed up X3s from them rolling them on Olds. 🤣🤣🤣
 

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For your spare belts check out these cases, they are pretty badass cause there is a bunch of different ones you can get that fit tools or first aid or all kinds of stuff. They keep the belt out of the sun/mud and it fits around the outside ring of the inner case. I have this one sitting on my passenger floor with first aid and tools to change the belt.

www.savageutv.com

REVOLVE Spare Tire Mounted Storage

Savage UTV continues to be the industry leader in UTV drive belt storage. The REVOLVE is the next evolution in multi-use storage for your spare drive belts plus so much more. Each REVOLVE case is designed to hold 2 spare belts from any major UTV manufacturer. In addition to your belts, the...
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For your spare belts check out these cases, they are pretty badass cause there is a bunch of different ones you can get that fit tools or first aid or all kinds of stuff. They keep the belt out of the sun/mud and it fits around the outside ring of the inner case. I have this one sitting on my passenger floor with first aid and tools to change the belt.

www.savageutv.com

REVOLVE Spare Tire Mounted Storage

Savage UTV continues to be the industry leader in UTV drive belt storage. The REVOLVE is the next evolution in multi-use storage for your spare drive belts plus so much more. Each REVOLVE case is designed to hold 2 spare belts from any major UTV manufacturer. In addition to your belts, the...
www.savageutv.com www.savageutv.com
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Those are pretty nice, wish there was a way to mount it in the spare of the Speed, but it has the locking mechanism holding it down in the center of the wheel.
 
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dirtslinger2 said:
Those are pretty nice, wish there was a way to mount it in the spare of the Speed, but it has the locking mechanism holding it down in the center of the wheel.
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Ya it wont work on that setup, but maybe you could fit it on the rear seat floor or somewhere else? Mine is on the rear floor under the cooler.
 
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RiverDave said:
No bias there. Lol!

You guys are unbelievable..

See other thread for that “slightly bent” lower an arm.. that is actually pretty clearly sheered off and paper thin.
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On quads...

They would use the tie rods as sheer points. One, so you wouldn't break your wrists if you hit something hard, and you only had to replace an inexpensive part.

Using a lower a-arm as a sheer point? Sound pricey, but if everything else that could possibly break is even More money, then it's not that bad of an idea.

The best idea is to try to not hit stuff!

But we all know that sometimes shit happens...

Especially when you invite a bunch of Writers out to test drive an off road car! 🤣😜
 
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Speed threads have taught me that you can’t point out the strengths of something without talking shit about something else. Robby is really bad at that which has brought on the much of the negative speed comments. The general public would be bigger cheerleaders for the Speed car if he wasn’t bashing the cars they own.
 
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"Married? yes married, sheesh"

Washed, yes washed, sheesh

For you hard pack monkeys, disregard any and all advice that the sand crowd uses, you guys seem to go for millions of miles and thousands of hours on the same belt. I'm happy for you, really I am.

But the sand is a whole different ball game, the speed owners will soon see how magical a beer/belt stop is when they eventually get their rides.

I digress, according to many belt manufactures, during the process of producing the belt they use chemicals to help remove the belt from the mold. Allegedly these chem's can easily be removed with hot soapy water and air dried. It is suppose to add to the longevity of the belt. Why the manf. doesn't give them a rinse, I suppose cost, and perhaps its total bs? But I do know literally hundreds of utv owners that swear by wash & break in your spare & break in your primary.

Now of course the true ballers and racers that have unlimited resources could give a rats ass about any of this hooe'y, when you have more money than god and boxes and boxes of belts that you can go through like no care in the world, why bother, right?

The reality is this, your on a dune ride (hence dune, i.e. soft sand, hard packers ignore) and someone, lets say you, blows a belt. Everyone stops, you proceed in removing the cover, you pray it didn't grenade and throw very flammable pieces of rubber and material into every f-n orifice of the cvt compartment. You spread your secondary, slap the new belt on, (hopefully without burning your little fingers because the clutches are smokin hot) leave it uncovered, you know to let any pieces you missed fall out. Jump back in the car... and mash it! The leader is really on the gas cause you wasted 5 minutes of his precious time changing a belt, so he is on the gas. The new belt goes from a nice comfy life that it spent inside an over priced belt specific bag, into the gates of hell and is being spun up like a crack head given a bag of rock for free. And BAM, within hours or perhaps days that new belt blows, and you scratch your head asking "why santie claus, why?"

Or.... have a washed and broken in belt in that over priced belt specific designer bag to replace the blown belt, and all your troubles are solved.





yea, yea..yea, hardpacker never had to deal with this issue, but I bet a racer or two have.
 
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stonehenge said:
"Married? yes married, sheesh"

Washed, yes washed, sheesh

For you hard pack monkeys, disregard any and all advice that the sand crowd uses, you guys seem to go for millions of miles and thousands of hours on the same belt. I'm happy for you, really I am.

But the sand is a whole different ball game, the speed owners will soon see how magical a beer/belt stop is when they eventually get their rides.

I digress, according to many belt manufactures, during the process of producing the belt they use chemicals to help remove the belt from the mold. Allegedly these chem's can easily be removed with hot soapy water and air dried. It is suppose to add to the longevity of the belt. Why the manf. doesn't give them a rinse, I suppose cost, and perhaps its total bs? But I do know literally hundreds of utv owners that swear by wash & break in your spare & break in your primary.

Now of course the true ballers and racers that have unlimited resources could give a rats ass about any of this hooe'y, when you have more money than god and boxes and boxes of belts that you can go through like no care in the world, why bother, right?

The reality is this, your on a dune ride (hence dune, i.e. soft sand, hard packers ignore) and someone, lets say you, blows a belt. Everyone stops, you proceed in removing the cover, you pray it didn't grenade and throw very flammable pieces of rubber and material into every f-n orifice of the cvt compartment. You spread your secondary, slap the new belt on, (hopefully without burning your little fingers because the clutches are smokin hot) leave it uncovered, you know to let any pieces you missed fall out. Jump back in the car... and mash it! The leader is really on the gas cause you wasted 5 minutes of his precise time changing a belt, so he is on the gas. The new belt goes from a nice comfy life that it spent inside an over priced belt specific bag, into the gates of hell and is being spun up like a crack head given a bag of rock for free. And BAM, within hours or perhaps days that new belt blows, and you scratch your head asking "why santie claus, why?"

Or.... have a washed and broken in belt in that over priced belt specific designer bag to replace the blown belt, and all your troubles are solved.





yea, yea..yea, hardpacker never had to deal with this issue, but I bet a racer or two have.
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Hahah...and it's precious time cuz we're in a hurry to get to the swing set, drink shaken to death CL's to watch idiots jump their cars :D
 
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stonehenge said:
"Married? yes married, sheesh"

Washed, yes washed, sheesh

For you hard pack monkeys, disregard any and all advice that the sand crowd uses, you guys seem to go for millions of miles and thousands of hours on the same belt. I'm happy for you, really I am.

But the sand is a whole different ball game, the speed owners will soon see how magical a beer/belt stop is when they eventually get their rides.

I digress, according to many belt manufactures, during the process of producing the belt they use chemicals to help remove the belt from the mold. Allegedly these chem's can easily be removed with hot soapy water and air dried. It is suppose to add to the longevity of the belt. Why the manf. doesn't give them a rinse, I suppose cost, and perhaps its total bs? But I do know literally hundreds of utv owners that swear by wash & break in your spare & break in your primary.

Now of course the true ballers and racers that have unlimited resources could give a rats ass about any of this hooe'y, when you have more money than god and boxes and boxes of belts that you can go through like no care in the world, why bother, right?

The reality is this, your on a dune ride (hence dune, i.e. soft sand, hard packers ignore) and someone, lets say you, blows a belt. Everyone stops, you proceed in removing the cover, you pray it didn't grenade and throw very flammable pieces of rubber and material into every f-n orifice of the cvt compartment. You spread your secondary, slap the new belt on, (hopefully without burning your little fingers because the clutches are smokin hot) leave it uncovered, you know to let any pieces you missed fall out. Jump back in the car... and mash it! The leader is really on the gas cause you wasted 5 minutes of his precise time changing a belt, so he is on the gas. The new belt goes from a nice comfy life that it spent inside an over priced belt specific bag, into the gates of hell and is being spun up like a crack head given a bag of rock for free. And BAM, within hours or perhaps days that new belt blows, and you scratch your head asking "why santie claus, why?"

Or.... have a washed and broken in belt in that over priced belt specific designer bag to replace the blown belt, and all your troubles are solved.





yea, yea..yea, hardpacker never had to deal with this issue, but I bet a racer or two have.
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Sounds like an easy to do thing for possibly a wives tale, possibly not. I've done other harder things that probably do nothing, so why not.
 
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stonehenge said:
"Married? yes married, sheesh"

Washed, yes washed, sheesh

For you hard pack monkeys, disregard any and all advice that the sand crowd uses, you guys seem to go for millions of miles and thousands of hours on the same belt. I'm happy for you, really I am.

But the sand is a whole different ball game, the speed owners will soon see how magical a beer/belt stop is when they eventually get their rides.

I digress, according to many belt manufactures, during the process of producing the belt they use chemicals to help remove the belt from the mold. Allegedly these chem's can easily be removed with hot soapy water and air dried. It is suppose to add to the longevity of the belt. Why the manf. doesn't give them a rinse, I suppose cost, and perhaps its total bs? But I do know literally hundreds of utv owners that swear by wash & break in your spare & break in your primary.

Now of course the true ballers and racers that have unlimited resources could give a rats ass about any of this hooe'y, when you have more money than god and boxes and boxes of belts that you can go through like no care in the world, why bother, right?

The reality is this, your on a dune ride (hence dune, i.e. soft sand, hard packers ignore) and someone, lets say you, blows a belt. Everyone stops, you proceed in removing the cover, you pray it didn't grenade and throw very flammable pieces of rubber and material into every f-n orifice of the cvt compartment. You spread your secondary, slap the new belt on, (hopefully without burning your little fingers because the clutches are smokin hot) leave it uncovered, you know to let any pieces you missed fall out. Jump back in the car... and mash it! The leader is really on the gas cause you wasted 5 minutes of his precious time changing a belt, so he is on the gas. The new belt goes from a nice comfy life that it spent inside an over priced belt specific bag, into the gates of hell and is being spun up like a crack head given a bag of rock for free. And BAM, within hours or perhaps days that new belt blows, and you scratch your head asking "why santie claus, why?"

Or.... have a washed and broken in belt in that over priced belt specific designer bag to replace the blown belt, and all your troubles are solved.





yea, yea..yea, hardpacker never had to deal with this issue, but I bet a racer or two have.
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As a duner I can tell you washed or unwashed it does not matter. The ability to control your right foot and having clutches that are aligned and functioning properly is the key to belt life in the dunes.

In our group there are guys that blow belts at will and others the belt last for seasons.

I have only blow one belt in the hardpack and that was doing over 90mph across a dry lake bed. That belt had over 1500 miles on it when it went.
 
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dirtslinger2 said:
Sounds like an easy to do thing for possibly a wives tale, possibly not. I've done other harder things that probably do nothing, so why not.
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I wash my ass and it only takes a few seconds, so washing a belt is easy. But the break in with a couple of heat cycles makes perfect sense.
 
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As a duner I can tell you washed or unwashed it does not matter. The ability to control your right foot and having clutches that are aligned and functioning properly is the key to belt life in the dunes.

In our group there are guys that blow belts at will and others the belt last for seasons.

I have only blow one belt in the hardpack and that was doing over 90mph across a dry lake bed. That belt had over 1500 miles on it when it went.
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This is somewhat sound advice.

I agree the foot dictates the belt life, along with your life.

But I'm a firm believer in wash & break in's.

But in her gayzer she also runs a temp gauge and a 500cfm nascar proven brake & tire thermal management cooling blower into her cvt compartment. She really doesn't like changing belts in the dunes, especially at night. lol

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stonehenge said:
This is somewhat sound advice.

I agree the foot dictates the belt life, along with your life.

But I'm a firm believer in wash & break in's.

But in her gayzer she also runs a temp gauge and a 500cfm nascar proven brake & tire thermal management cooling blower into her cvt compartment. She really doesn't like changing belts in the dunes, especially at night. lol

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It does not take much time to wash them.

I have never run a belt temp gauge. I don't want to stare at it or change my driving. Been pretty good at not breaking lots of belts. Also try to change out the belt every 1,500 miles.
 
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dirtslinger2 said:
Those are pretty nice, wish there was a way to mount it in the spare of the Speed, but it has the locking mechanism holding it down in the center of the wheel.
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Sandcraft makes a nice belt back that holds all the tool needed.

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SPARE BELT & TOOL BAG - SANDCRAFT Motorsports - SANDCRAFT RCR - The Industry Leader in UTV Products & Paddle Tires

The SANDCRAFT Spare Belt and Tool Bag holds up to three belts and is specifically designed to carry all tools and gloves necessary to change your belt when temps are steaming. For after market clutch owners, there is an added bonus pocket/holder for the secondary clutch tool as well. This is the...
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PRP makes one as well

www.prpseats.com

Spare Drive Belt Bag for UTVs - Large

PRP's Spare Drive Belt Bag for UTVs gives you a place to always have a new, clean drive belt on hand while out on the trails or a racecourse.
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Both should fit under the seat or in one of the storage boxes Speed sells.
 
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All that hassle to make a belt last in the dunes lol.

Yeh some don’t realize how hard the sand is on them. Add too much tire like I see on a lot too something has to slip to make them go and it ain’t tire spin.

I know some who ran hardpack never an issue.
 
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