Speed UTV take 3

[stonehenge]

 

[Fishd00d]

See price at payment.

Yes thats the price with 30 accessories added as it says in the picture.

 

[RiverDave]

Yes thats the price with 30 accessories added as it says in the picture.

If you click their best bundle it shoots the price to 61k pretty quick.

I clicked that and added an emergency kit and one other thing and it was 62 and change

(Top left hand corner)

 

[Boatymcboatface]

If somebody makes a body kit that covers those front arms they’ll make some good money. Kinda like the guy that makes butt implants for the Pro R. Maybe just a whole new hood/wheel well type thing.

 

[JayBreww]

Yes thats the price with 30 accessories added as it says in the picture.

So just like a current Speed?

 

[DLC]

You guys better dump your Speed cars !

Forrest Gump is in Beast mode! And it’s little brother was the fastest sxs !

 

[bentprops]

Anyone like 2 seaters? View attachment 1265716

WTF, are we skipping diablos now?

 

[DLC]

ZRP will make some Billet Porn for that goof ball

 

[dirtslinger2]

So just like a current Speed?

The Can Am is priced right with Speed, 45K, and that would include nets, and a radio/intercomm at that price with the Speed.

 

[ZSTIV]

This is what happens with RG has suspension patents! lol
you have this monstrosity can hammed and Polaris that runs an axle through a shock fork lol

 

[rivermobster]

This is what happens with RG has suspension patents! lol
you have this monstrosity can hammed and Polaris that runs an axle through a shock fork lol

So I asked earlier, but nobody ever replied...

Besides the twist lock inner axle clips (that we've already seen come apart), what else did he actually patent?

 

[HCP3]

So I asked earlier, but nobody ever replied...

Besides the twist lock inner axle clips (that we've already seen come apart), what else did he actually patent?

What hasn't he patented is the easier question.

Robby Gordon Inventions, Patents and Patent Applications - Justia Patents Search

USPTO patent applications submitted by and patents granted to Robby Gordon

patents.justia.com

 

[sandshark1]

The Can Am is priced right with Speed, 45K, and that would include nets, and a radio/intercomm at that price with the Speed.

If you order the RG edition correct?

 

[dirtslinger2]

If you order the RG edition correct?

Yes, it's a couple grand more than the LE, but comes with nets, radio, and suede seats, but less color options.

 

[sandshark1]

This is what happens with RG has suspension patents! lol
you have this monstrosity can hammed and Polaris that runs an axle through a shock fork lol

Can Am designed this prior to a lot of RGs patents for SXSs. Same for the Pro R. I am not sure how far RG would get with his patent for the suspension mounted to the lower a-arm considering Arctic Cat was doing it prior to RGs involvement.

His list of patents are interesting.

 

[dirtslinger2]

Can Am designed this prior to a lot of RGs patents for SXSs. Same for the Pro R. I am not sure how far RG would get with his patent for the suspension mounted to the lower a-arm considering Arctic Cat was doing it prior to RGs involvement.

His list of patents are interesting.

People keep saying Robby's patents are the reason that Polaris and CanAm did things the way they did. This is totally untrue. The ProR was in development before the Speed car was announced and being designed, so they weren't dodging patents with their shock set up. I'm pretty sure this Can Am has been in the works for many years as well. I mentioned before, it was 3 years ago, I was in Barstow, and there was a huge film crew and others staying at the hotel. They were there filming some top secret CanAm stuff, and they would give us anymore information, or tell us where they were out filming. I suspect, they were doing something with this car that they just released, and 3 years ago, was really when the Speed was getting re-designed into what it is now vs. a stretch XX.

Folks also baulk at Robby's patents, I don't really care about patents at all, but I would guess if you looked at Polaris, CanAm, Yamaha etc.....that you find a just as many patents.

 

[rivermobster]

What hasn't he patented is the easier question.

Robby Gordon Inventions, Patents and Patent Applications - Justia Patents Search

USPTO patent applications submitted by and patents granted to Robby Gordon

patents.justia.com

Good find...

I see a shit ton of applications, and a handful of different grants.

Those grants have to be specifically for his designs? Cause some of those things have been around for decades?

Roof vents? Gusset plates? Those must be design specific.

Thanks for the info.

 

[Ladsm]

I am sure the new suspension on the CanAM works really well and the Rotax motors are tried and true reliable. I just dont know about the looks of the front end. I guess how it drives is more important.

 

[1Carl]

First accessory. Now if someone can make a full front bumper to protect those mirror mounts they’d probably make a lot of $$

 

[Dalton]

Longer arms = less geometry change through suspension cycle, most likely

 

[1Carl]

I just want to know just how many cans of fix a flat you can carry on board since you can’t carry a spare tire. $17,682 accessories bundle that doesn’t include a spare tire. Oh what, no where to mount a spare tire. Maybe I should just invest in about 3-4 wreckers for Glamis. It’s going to be a busy riding season.

 

[Raffit78]

I just want to know just how many cans of fix a flat you can carry on board since you can’t carry a spare tire. $17,682 accessories bundle that doesn’t include a spare tire. Oh what, no where to mount a spare tire. Maybe I should just invest in about 3-4 wreckers for Glamis. It’s going to be a busy riding season.

 

[rivermobster]

I just want to know just how many cans of fix a flat you can carry on board since you can’t carry a spare tire. $17,682 accessories bundle that doesn’t include a spare tire. Oh what, no where to mount a spare tire. Maybe I should just invest in about 3-4 wreckers for Glamis. It’s going to be a busy riding season.

Good thinking...

So many dangerous sharp objects out in the sand, having a spare is a must in Glamis!

 

[sandshark1]

I just want to know just how many cans of fix a flat you can carry on board since you can’t carry a spare tire. $17,682 accessories bundle that doesn’t include a spare tire. Oh what, no where to mount a spare tire. Maybe I should just invest in about 3-4 wreckers for Glamis. It’s going to be a busy riding season.

Why would you carry a spare in the dunes? On long desert rides yes a spare is nice.

Will the wrecker be a "Speed Wrecker"? LOL!

 

[RiverDave]

View attachment 1267657

lol. Shows a spare right there in the pic!

RD

 

[PlanB]

Go and build one with top accessories package $17K+. Make sure you check out welds and ball joints.

I built one online last night. Just like stated above, if you select every option available you can get it over 60K. The top of the line car is just over 44K. Can-Am just upped the game when it comes to technology. 240hp with a 7 speed DCT. Wait till aftermarket tunes come out for this new motor with a 54mm turbo. It will be well over 300hp.

 

[DLC]

Can am Frt end explained

Berts Mega Mall on Instagram: "Here is a great explanation of the Maverick R’s all-new suspension system from @dustinbattleaxejones -someone with REAL seat time in this new #SXS - #maverickr #utv"

9,481 likes, 0 comments - bertsmegamall on August 21, 2023: "Here is a great explanation of the Maverick R’s all-new suspension system from @dustinbattleaxejones -someone with REAL seat time in this new #SXS - #maverickr #utv".

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[DLC]

I think a lot of the factory can am add on’s are not as good as the aftermarket ….

Neat gadgets….
but
baja designs lights don’t need to turn on while your turning the steering wheel…

 

[sandshark1]

I built one online last night. Just like stated above, if you select every option available you can get it over 60K. The top of the line car is just over 44K. Can-Am just upped the game when it comes to technology. 240hp with a 7 speed DCT. Wait till aftermarket tunes come out for this new motor with a 35mm turbo. It will be well over 300hp.

It is a 54mm turbo.

There will people that will order the bundled accessories and the dealers will be making a killing.

 

[PlanB]

It is a 54mm turbo.

There will people that will order the bundled accessories and the dealers will be making a killing.

Yeah, I was thinking 53mm but my dyslexia kicked in. Lol

 

[EarpRider]

I'm soo tired of everyone pretending they want more horsepower.
Come on, we all know what we want.

The best built in ice chest!

 

[Fishd00d]

Im surprised Can-AM didn't goto Xtravel and offer to buy their patented front suspension. It would have done everything they were doing here geometry wise but it would still look normal as well......

And anyone thinking Robby has a patent that Can-am or Polaris were going around is hilarious. Like was said above both this car and the Pro R were in development before Speed even was a company lol.

 

[Bpracing1127]

Im surprised Can-AM didn't goto Xtravel and offer to buy their patented front suspension. It would have done everything they were doing here geometry wise but it would still look normal as well......

And anyone thinking Robby has a patent that Can-am or Polaris were going around is hilarious. Like was said above both this car and the Pro R were in development before Speed even was a company lol.

What is the x travel. I see it all the time but can’t find much on it

 

[riverroyal]

I just want to know just how many cans of fix a flat you can carry on board since you can’t carry a spare tire. $17,682 accessories bundle that doesn’t include a spare tire. Oh what, no where to mount a spare tire. Maybe I should just invest in about 3-4 wreckers for Glamis. It’s going to be a busy riding season.

lol. I built one earlier. Spare carrier and ratchet strap is right on the accessories page. I added to my build sheet.
1Carl, you lose. Your gamble didn’t pay off. Hope you have 7 kids to drive all your cars

 

[Fishd00d]

What is the x travel. I see it all the time but can’t find much on it

Its badass!!! It does all the things the Can-Am guys were trying to do but keeps it looking normal haha. https://xtraveltechnology.com/technology/

 

[counterpart7]

Im surprised Can-AM didn't goto Xtravel and offer to buy their patented front suspension. It would have done everything they were doing here geometry wise but it would still look normal as well......

And anyone thinking Robby has a patent that Can-am or Polaris were going around is hilarious. Like was said above both this car and the Pro R were in development before Speed even was a company lol.

Correct about before Speed UTV was a company, but Robby/Textron had the patents before the Turbo S was even released.

 

[Fishd00d]

Correct about before Speed UTV was a company, but Robby/Textron had the patents before the Turbo S was even released.

What patent does RG have that Polaris and Can-Am didnt use?? They both now have a shock mounted on the lower arm.

 

[HCP3]

What patent does RG have that Polaris and Can-Am didnt use?? They both now have a shock mounted on the lower arm.

As I understand it, it has to do with the rear semi-trailing arm suspension that Speed/Textron use. Everyone else is stuck with radius arm/rods in the rear from the factory.

 

[beerrun]

Im surprised Can-AM didn't goto Xtravel and offer to buy their patented front suspension. It would have done everything they were doing here geometry wise but it would still look normal as well......

And anyone thinking Robby has a patent that Can-am or Polaris were going around is hilarious. Like was said above both this car and the Pro R were in development before Speed even was a company lol.

Robby has been in the utv game a long time. Robby is the one that invented the 4 seater razor. I saw it first at Bristol when he was still racing nascar. He took the 4 seater to polaris and sold them that idea. I remember asking motoworld when was the new 4 seater coming out and they looked at me like I was crazy and sad that would never happen that no one would want something like that

 

[counterpart7]

What patent does RG have that Polaris and Can-Am didnt use?? They both now have a shock mounted on the lower arm.

Could have sworn he had one for a J arm style front suspension when they came out with the XX. Thus, requiring other mfgs to mount the shock over the axle(like pro r) or find another work around.

Quick search came up with little specifics on that, maybe I’m wrong!

Still a weird design. Might handle great, but looks goofy as hell.

 

[sandshark1]

As I understand it, it has to do with the rear semi-trailing arm suspension that Speed/Textron use. Everyone else is stuck with radius arm/rods in the rear from the factory.

Can Am had trailing arms on the Commander back in the day with no radius rods. That was 13 years ago. Robby patented a lot of stuff and it is an interesting laundry list.

 

[sandshark1]

Im surprised Can-AM didn't goto Xtravel and offer to buy their patented front suspension. It would have done everything they were doing here geometry wise but it would still look normal as well......

And anyone thinking Robby has a patent that Can-am or Polaris were going around is hilarious. Like was said above both this car and the Pro R were in development before Speed even was a company lol.

Would of been cool if they went the X-travel route. A lot more moving parts on the x-travel set up.

 

[Bpracing1127]

Can Am had trailing arms on the Commander back in the day with no radius rods. That was 13 years ago. Robby patented a lot of stuff and it is an interesting laundry list.

Yep they sure did. Without the dual plunge cv, on long travel applications it ate cv’s

Ask me how I know lol

 

[Albacore]

What is the x travel. I see it all the time but can’t find much on it

It fixes improper geometry, suspension and improves performance and handling just like what Robby has tried to do with his car from start. At least now they admit they got it wrong even though everybody claims just because they win first place there’s no problems. Probably more I could add, but I’m not gonna get into it here and argue.

 

[ZSTIV]

Its more of a joke fish when talking about the patents...
but if they have been designing it for over 4 years plus, that's pretty sad...

Its also funny to hear about how long they have been working and developing the car, but god forbid speed does it in 4 years from ground up!

It still has ball joints... When will they learn?

 

[white tortilla]

I guess I’m the only one here, I could care less what the CanAm front end looks like if it works fucking awesome. If it ends up being a huge problem with sticks n rocks then that sucks. I’m assuming they have done some due diligence in testing before releasing this to market.,

 

[rivermobster]

Its badass!!! It does all the things the Can-Am guys were trying to do but keeps it looking normal haha. https://xtraveltechnology.com/technology/

That looks Way bad azz...

Looks like you'd be limited to only using their shocks? Or are other vendors making shocks for that system?

 

[sandshark1]

Yep they sure did. Without the dual plunge cv, on long travel applications it ate cv’s

Ask me how I know lol

Had two friends with long travel kits on their Commanders. One drove like a maniac and would kill axles and the other was much more reserved and never had issues. They were sketchy to drive with all the steering feedback and lack of power steering back then.

The first generation Maverick with long travel was a cv killer.

 

[rivermobster]

I guess I’m the only one here, I could care less what the CanAm front end looks like if it works fucking awesome. If it ends up being a huge problem with sticks n rocks then that sucks. I’m assuming they have done some due diligence in testing before releasing this to market.,

You're definitely not alone...

People get stuck in the past sometimes is all.

Looks don't mean jack. How something works is what's important.

 

[Fishd00d]

That looks Way bad azz...

Looks like you'd be limited to only using their shocks? Or are other vendors making shocks for that system?

It uses the shocks that come on the car. Any of them will work you just replace the clevis at the bottom of the shaft with theirs....