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[RiverDave]

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If ya missed it they had to run the speed in 4x4 and the others in 2wd..

They should have ran them all in 4wd after that was discovered

 

[stonehenge]

If ya missed it they had to run the speed in 4x4 and the others in 2wd..

They should have ran them all in 4wd after that was discovered

yep, and they most likely will run them again and again and again. just sharing some info with all the deplorables

I personally can't wait till they get them in the dunes.

 

[1Carl]

Welcome back! You got those cars sold yet?

Waiting on desert season

 

[1Carl]

Speed Stop ride is about to be over

 

[Joker]

These care really seem impressive.

 

[MonkeyButt70]

Waiting on desert season

Technically desert season has started..... People are getting their toys ready and buying if in need. So those speed jewels you are hoarding should be in some other persons name by now.

 

[Bpracing1127]

Waiting on desert season

lol so no, this is the time people are buying halloween is a month away

 

[1Carl]

Speed car values just went up.

 

[JayBreww]

Speed car values just went up.

I bet if they got invited with cleeter they would have different opinions.

 

[HCP3]

Speed car values just went up.

With the value going up, have you sold any of the eight cars you currently have?

 

[PlanB]

Speed car values just went up.

I don't get it. I skimmed the video and saw nothing bad about the car at all. Some guys saying they like CVT cars better? The guy saying his Pro R pulled harder? That has been proven to be false in the few drag racing videos that show both the Maverick R and even the X3 beating a Pro R in a Drag race. I must have missed something...

 

[Boatymcboatface]

I don't get it. I skimmed the video and saw nothing bad about the car at all. Some guys saying they like CVT cars better? The guy saying his Pro R pulled harder? That has been proven to be false in the few drag racing videos that show both the Maverick R and even the X3 beating a Pro R in a Drag race. I must have missed something...

Yeah because you’re not the one trying to sell a couple speed cars.

 

[sandshark1]

Waiting on desert season

Desert season is here and the new fuel sensor has arrived. Those things should be sold and on their way to the owners. Never mind you have not taken delivery of your cars yet.

You need to get them sold so you can get your Maverick R. We know you want one after seeing it win the Silver State 300. LMAO!!!!

 

[sandshark1]

I don't get it. I skimmed the video and saw nothing bad about the car at all. Some guys saying they like CVT cars better? The guy saying his Pro R pulled harder? That has been proven to be false in the few drag racing videos that show both the Maverick R and even the X3 beating a Pro R in a Drag race. I must have missed something...

Pretty sure their Pro R has a tune and clutching done to it. Good news is they took out a new car and did not break it like they usually do. LOL!

 

[joecfd1]

So this followed me home last weekend. These things are huge 16.5" longer wheelbase than my 2019 RZR Turbo 4S. It'll be interesting to do a personal compairison of these, Can-Am, and Speed. I don't trust any of the internet "unbaised" compairisons.

 

[RiverDave]

So this followed me home last weekend. These things are huge 16.5" longer wheelbase than my 2019 RZR Turbo 4S. It'll be interesting to do a personal compairison of these, Can-Am, and Speed. I don't trust any of the internet "unbaised" compairisons.

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I’d be interested in hearing that.. it seems like all the other reviews have some kinda angle to them

 

[Boatymcboatface]

So this followed me home last weekend. These things are huge 16.5" longer wheelbase than my 2019 RZR Turbo 4S. It'll be interesting to do a personal compairison of these, Can-Am, and Speed. I don't trust any of the internet "unbaised" compairisons.

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I’d really be interested in your comparison of it to your turbo S.

 

[joecfd1]

I’d be interested in hearing that.. it seems like all the other reviews have some kinda angle to them

It's currently under the knife getting a cage, seats, lighting, wheels and tires, radio/intercom, lower ball joints, tie rods, etc. No performance upgrades. I'll have it in Havasu in a couple of weeks. Maybe we can find someone with a Can-Am to do a RDP shootout.??

 

[Hammer]

It's currently under the knife getting a cage, seats, lighting, wheels and tires, radio/intercom, lower ball joints, tie rods, etc. No performance upgrades. I'll have it in Havasu in a couple of weeks. Maybe we can find someone with a Can-Am to do a RDP shootout.??

So this followed me home last weekend. These things are huge 16.5" longer wheelbase than my 2019 RZR Turbo 4S. It'll be interesting to do a personal compairison of these, Can-Am, and Speed. I don't trust any of the internet "unbaised" compairisons.

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tire to tire what was your overall length on the S compared to the new ride? I'm in the market to upgrade from my '16 XP4. Need room in my enclosed for kids quads. I don't necessarily want to upgrade my trailer when we get a new SXS...

Congrats on the new car!

 

[joecfd1]

tire to tire what was your overall length on the S compared to the new ride? I'm in the market to upgrade from my '16 XP4. Need room in my enclosed for kids quads. I don't necessarily want to upgrade my trailer when we get a new SXS...

Congrats on the new car!

The Turbo 4S is 150" overall and the Pro R is 165.5".

 

[Boatymcboatface]

The Turbo 4S is 150" overall and the Pro R is 165.5".

Length wasn’t my only concern when choosing the turbos s4 over the can am but a big factor. One thing most don’t think about besides length is the height of the new turbo r compared to the other cars! It’s tall compared to the other offerings speed/CanAm/older RZR platforms. Something most don’t think about.

 

[Hammer]

The Turbo 4S is 150" overall and the Pro R is 165.5".

Thank you.

 

[1Carl]

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San Diego, CA August 17th 2023 - The Martelli Brothers announced today that the 2024 UNLTD Off-Road Racing Rulebook will go into effect after the 2023 California 300 this October 4-8. The goal of the announcement is to give racers adequate time to prepare and plan for the upcoming 2024 race season.

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[1Carl]

All UTV engines except Pro Open must remain stock

 

[Bpracing1127]

All UTV engines except Pro Open must remain stock

It’s been that way for a while. Go sell a car

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Not sure I agree with this at all. A lot of sand cars have radiators that are not getting ram air and are using the fans to pull enough volume of air to cool that radiator.

On top of that, you can certainly hear when my freightliner fan turns on when running 65-70 and it definitely provides more cooling air so I think your generalizations are a little off...

When we get far enough down the list to mount a freightliner radiator to the roof of the car, we will try freightliner fans.

 

[Fishd00d]

I’d really be interested in your comparison of it to your turbo S.

I had a pretty built Turbo S and my Pro R stock was night and day better in every way. Not even close in the suspension department....

 

[riverroyal]

It’s been that way for a while. Go sell a car

Sometimes saying less is more short post of the month award.

 

[Outdrive1]

I had a pretty built Turbo S and my Pro R stock was night and day better in every way. Not even close in the suspension department....

The old platform suspension compared to the R platform is not even in the same ballpark

 

[stonehenge]

Do you think any of these cars will be in glamis soon? Would love to see how they perform in the dunes. I'm sure at way over 2500 pounds with paddles they should glide through the big dunes with ease.

 

[Bpracing1127]

Your point is you’re exactly right. Lol

A rear mounted radiator between motor and seats/body, gets very little, if any air flow regardless of speed. I can run my full body with windshield twin turbo car at 120+ and could damn near light a cigarette directly in front of my radiator if fans are off.

Speeds radiator/fans works marginally ok with out windshield. Damn near useless with a windshield. In a best case scenario they’re not moving more than 2400cfm combined all 3 fans running. Pulling through a radiator that’s barely sized right. Then has obstructions, inlet side ( seats ) to close in front, outlet side decorative cover /body parts all restricting free air flow. It’s like putting an ac compressor with a house inch on 1 side and a wall inch away on other side and wondering why it won’t work. Instead of moving it, everyone’s trying to figure out how to force air into the closet.

raising current and maybe more tilt to give fans a chance to pull and push the air freely through should help. But it will likely be a larger radiator raised up and bigger fans. Double the cfms flowing through it with a larger radiator = problems solved

I don’t have a speed or have 1 on order. But I do think it’s the best looking golf cart. The quirks seem odd that no one is finding fixes. I guess maybe because not enough out there, or people are scared to modify in fear of Robby voiding warranties Honestly if he’s gonna let the public be R&D then he should offer rewards to the guys that come up with the fixes , and not void anything.

He did offer a reward. They got it for cheap

 

[zhandfull]

The Jeep with a hard top, power windows, and AC suddenly doesn’t sound so bad. I know apples and oranges. Wave when you go by. See you on the trail.

 

[rivermobster]

Your point is you’re exactly right. Lol

A rear mounted radiator between motor and seats/body, gets very little, if any air flow regardless of speed. I can run my full body with windshield twin turbo car at 120+ and could damn near light a cigarette directly in front of my radiator if fans are off.

Speeds radiator/fans works marginally ok with out windshield. Damn near useless with a windshield. In a best case scenario they’re not moving more than 2400cfm combined all 3 fans running. Pulling through a radiator that’s barely sized right. Then has obstructions, inlet side ( seats ) to close in front, outlet side decorative cover /body parts all restricting free air flow. It’s like putting an ac compressor with a house inch on 1 side and a wall inch away on other side and wondering why it won’t work. Instead of moving it, everyone’s trying to figure out how to force air into the closet.

raising current and maybe more tilt to give fans a chance to pull and push the air freely through should help. But it will likely be a larger radiator raised up and bigger fans. Double the cfms flowing through it with a larger radiator = problems solved

I don’t have a speed or have 1 on order. But I do think it’s the best looking golf cart. The quirks seem odd that no one is finding fixes. I guess maybe because not enough out there, or people are scared to modify in fear of Robby voiding warranties Honestly if he’s gonna let the public be R&D then he should offer rewards to the guys that come up with the fixes , and not void anything.

SO much truth here.

 

[HCP3]

If a radiator is not getting air at speed, then of course a fan is needed to draw air though it.

Clearly the radiator is getting air without a windshield in a Speed car.. because it runs fine without a windshield.

As I’ve said multiple times.. this is a airflow problem, not a cooling system capacity problem.

If we end up needing fans to pull air through the radiator, great. If we are talking about forcing air into that shroud, then you have a finite amount of air you can run through there before the fans themselves are a restriction.

You are. It going to force 3000 CFM of airflow through fans that flow 2400 CFM for example. You will end up with blown fuses.



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Pardon me, River Dave's Speed Discussion thread, but do you ever get tired of LargeOrangeFont knowing it all?

 

[Wheeler]

Pardon me, River Dave's Speed Discussion thread, but do you ever get tired of LargeOrangeFont knowing it all?

Nope like a fine wine he improves with age.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Pardon me, River Dave's Speed Discussion thread, but do you ever get tired of LargeOrangeFont knowing it all?

The sky is blue.. come at me bro

 

[1Carl]

Wait until these 150 Bandits are picked up

 

[MonkeyButt70]

Wait until these 150 Bandits are picked up

Please tell us what we should expect.

 

[outboard_256]

Anyone in glamis right now? Speed car is down with a broken axle. Can't get the hub bolts out to replace it. Asking for a torch.

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

This was at Detail Specialties this morning. No idea whose it is. I noticed the seats were out of it for some reason. Didn’t ask questions, I was just shocked to be standing next to one.

It was like finding the mythical Bigfoot.

 

[JayBreww]

This was at Detail Specialties this morning. No idea whose it is. I noticed the seats were out of it for some reason. Didn’t ask questions, I was just shocked to be standing next to one.

It was like finding the mythical Bigfoot.

Maybe from the tape on the doors they are putting gator step throughout?

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

Maybe from the tape on the doors they are putting gator step throughout?

Possibly. Also DS no longer does Gator Step. They have their own brand now, Deck-X. Same material and patterns.

 

[Joker]

Anyone in glamis right now? Speed car is down with a broken axle. Can't get the hub bolts out to replace it. Asking for a torch.

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I thought these wouldn’t break in Glamis

 

[Fishd00d]

I thought these wouldn’t break in Glamis

Damnit I wish Dave would have taken my bet!!! That was a lot sooner then I thought even haha

 

[NIKAL]

Anyone in glamis right now? Speed car is down with a broken axle. Can't get the hub bolts out to replace it. Asking for a torch.

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Strange as you should not need to pull the bearing hub off to put a new axle in? Unless he damaged the bearing?

He’s had this car out several times as this was a second batch car. Been told Robby was called and already knows about this, even though he’s in Asia right now. I’m sure he’s going to want to see the part and I bet if it was an axle that broke, which would be the first to break. They will check production. Id bet they stress check a few, to make sure it’s not a production problem.

 

[pixrthis]

Pardon me, River Dave's Speed Discussion thread, but do you ever get tired of LargeOrangeFont knowing it all?

He’s our Cliff Clavin

 

[stonehenge]

I thought these wouldn’t break in Glamis

I'm positive it is just a fluke, user error completely. Those things are bulletproof.


But I did check to see if a torch came in the tool kit, nope, no torch.

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But at $$1,499.00 you can always just add one from harbor freight for another 21 bucks.

https://www.harborfreight.com/electric-start-propane-torch-91061.html

You know, just in case.

 

[rivrrts429]

Why does he have the hub off to change an axle? Shouldn’t need to do that but I can’t remember seeing the axles recently.

Axle change should be a 10 minute job max. It’s pretty easy to swap.

 

[sandshark1]

All UTV engines except Pro Open must remain stock

And your point is what? That is nothing new. Is that going to somehow allow Speed to win a race? Do you think RG will have 75 cars racing at the Norra 500 in 3 weeks?

 

[sandshark1]

Do you think any of these cars will be in glamis soon? Would love to see how they perform in the dunes. I'm sure at way over 2500 pounds with paddles they should glide through the big dunes with ease.

The Pro R 4 seater gets around Glamis with no issues. I have driven a few in Glamis.

We will see a few in Glamis this season. How they hold up we shall see.