On the Mexico and Canada Tariffs

[Smitty7]

Lol, the move offshore came 100% from the government, all of the red tape, regulations, taxes, and complication drove the price and pain of doing business here to a breaking point for many of the durable industries.

Spot on and lets not forget the unions got every drop of blood they could from the businesses . They kept squeezing every last drop till there was nothing left to get .

 

[Uncle Dave]

What industries specifically?

Because under Trump's 1st term there was a good amount of reshoring, and prevention of offshoring.... Just because your specific niche suppliers haven't moved back doesn't mean nobody has or will.

This is a problem that will take a generation to fix, minimum.

Guys like you just keep complaining it's not happening fast enough, where is my stuff, blahhh blahhh blahhh.

You don't get shade tomorrow from a tree that you plant today. It needs water, and time, pruning, and care.

The entire nation needs a culture paradigm shift. We have been running on inertia for decades.

The industries we tariff -mainly the semiconductor businesses we pushed out of the US - or let walk away.

We dont have an American alternative to buy from, so all this bullshit "just buy American" isn't possible.

It sucks you are taking shots at me personally (exactly the shit that drives discussion out of RDP)
So the counter is guys like you always chime in pretending to understand business complexities you don't live, or know shit about.

You are right - it will take a longtime to fix, so why aren't we planting the trees?

They should have starting going into the ground no later than when this started in 2017 - we're 8 years behind even starting to fixing the problem.

When are you going to stop pretending American businesses are the problem and demand the trees start getting planted ?

 

[regor]

The industries we tariff -mainly the semiconductor businesses we pushed out of the US.

We dont have an American alternative to buy from, so all this bullshit "just buy American" isn't possible.

It sucks you are taking shots at me personally (exactly the shit that drive discussion out of RDP)
So the counter is guys like you always chime in pretending to understand business complexities you don't live, or know shit about.

You are right - it will take a longtime to fix, so why aren't we planting the trees?

They should have starting going into the ground no later than when this started in 2017 - we're 8 years behind even starting to fixing the problem.

When are you going to stop pretending American businesses are the problem and demand the trees start getting planted ?

As Racey stated, there was a fair amount on on-shoring occurring and a general attitude change in his first term. He’ll continue to do it in his 2nd, but you can’t expect it to be built without the threat of tariffs.

The PROBLEM is the continual change in philosophy from administration to administration, not to mention the corruption.

As I said earlier, this is up to the people to continue to vote for politicians that will execute it. If we clean up elections, we have a shot.

 

[530RL]

Spot on and lets not forget the unions got every drop of blood they could from the businesses . They kept squeezing every last drop till there was nothing left to get .

No,no, no.

Racey says it is 100 percent government.

The higher wages demanded by Americans supporting a higher standard of living has zero affect on pricing and competitiveness of US manufacturers. It is solely government according to him.

There is no advantage to lower cost workers, it is 100 percent government according to Racey.

 

[530RL]

As Racey stated, there was a fair amount on on-shoring occurring and a general attitude change in his first term. He’ll continue to do it in his 2nd, but you can’t expect it to be built without the threat of tariffs.

The PROBLEM is the continual change in philosophy from administration to administration, not to mention the corruption.

As I said earlier, this is up to the people to continue to vote for politicians that will execute it. If we clean up elections, we have a shot.

Total trade deficits increased by a record 36.3 percent under his first term. Manufacturing jobs shrunk by 178,000. Construction costs rose more than 2.5 times the rate of inflation.

His implementation of liberal economic policies with respect to trade objectively failed and continued to fail under Biden as he kept those liberal trade policies in place.

Those are economic facts.

 

[regor]

Total trade deficits increased by a record 36.3 percent under his first term. Manufacturing jobs shrunk by 178,000. Construction costs rose more than 2.5 times the rate of inflation.

His implementation of liberal economic policies with respect to trade objectively failed and continued to fail under Biden as he kept those liberal trade policies in place.

Those are economic facts.

As usual, you make no mention of yore USAID funded bio-weapon Covid and the consequences that had on yore fake numbers.

And faggot, if could respond about how we are KICKING yore asses right now in all the other threads, the inmates would appreciate it!!!!

 

[Cray Paper]

You clearly dont know who we are or what we do.

We're 100% American designed, made, built and tested - minus the parts we just cant buy in the US because of short sighted politicians.

How many American engineers, manufacturing people. sales and marketing people, buyers, planners, support poeple and do you employ? Whats your payroll?

My competition is china and cheap asian stuff.

Sell out American sovereignty and might?
We are American sovereignty and might, and we're the last men standing in this business thats family owned and operated.

Please tell me about your local and global business, who do you employ, what do you make and sell and to who?
What do you make here? Are you part of the problem ?

ANY RDP'er in the Sacramento area is welcome to come up the hill to Grass Valley for a factory tour to see real American manufacturing and technical leadership.

UD, I do not know what you and your company produce, I am just venting at what I have seen as the purposeful destruction of the middle class and manufacturing base in the US via politicians for the last 30 years. I think we are on the same page, but just see things from different perspectives via our career paths.

I have worked in the commercial construction industry since 1991. I have had a odd fascination regarding the American auto industry since 1989 and spent a lot of energy and free time understanding how our government has influenced it through the mid 2000's. I am well versed in the trade agreements with Mexico, Japan and China and the flat out abuse that took place by each of those countries due to US debt ownership and influence on US politicians. Currency manipulation plays a huge part in the abuse that has never been directly addressed by the US government. The swamp was being developed back in the 80's and is deeper than most can comprehend.

As far as who I work for, I worked for a locally owned commercial construction company for 25 years, at one point we were a 1.2 Billion dollar a year company. I have been working for a internationally owned publicly owned company for the last 5+ years, it is worth about 2.4 Billion.

I see apples, you see oranges, but that has to do with our perspectives, but I think we are on the same page? Send me a PM, I would really like to know what your company produces and support it if I can.

 

[Uncle Dave]

UD, I do not know what you and your company produce, I am just venting at what I have seen as the purposeful destruction of the middle class and manufacturing base in the US via politicians for the last 30 years. I think we are on the same page, but just see things from different perspectives via our career paths.

I have worked in the commercial construction industry since 1991. I have had a odd fascination regarding the American auto industry since 1989 and spent a lot of energy and free time understanding how our government has influenced it through the mid 2000's. I am well versed in the trade agreements with Mexico, Japan and China and the flat out abuse that took place by each of those countries due to US debt ownership and influence on US politicians. Currency manipulation plays a huge part in the abuse that has never been directly addressed by the US government. The swamp was being developed back in the 80's and is deeper than most can comprehend.

As far as who I work for, I worked for a locally owned commercial construction company for 25 years, at one point we were a 1.2 Billion dollar a year company. I have been working for a internationally owned publicly owned company for the last 5+ years, it is worth about 2.4 Billion.

I see apples, you see oranges, but that has to do with our perspectives, but I think we are on the same page? Send me a PM, I would really like to know what your company produces and support it if I can.

We're more aligned that it appears in this particular thread.
I'm aligned with most of the guys here 90+% of the time.
I'm really happy with a lot of what's happening now - with this issue being an exception, but in this forum its 100% or you're some combination of insults.

Ive never been happy with either side of our government and watched our middle class slide into oblivion while politicians & fat cat union bosses robbed our country.

I've done a bunch of things for fun, but made my money in the TV/Film business since the late 80's I'll send you my LinkedIn profile.
I've gone from a small private companies to big public companies and chose to finish out my career at a family owned company.
I've owned and been an investor in many companies over my working career and always been one of those guys that had aa job and a side gig at every point in my life because I've never been able to trust anyone but myself with my security.

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