OCM Offshore Custom Marine Lake Havasu City AZ

[t&y]

Your an idiot.....

Uhh it's actually "you are" an idiot.. Let's keep the grammer straight in here people

 

[lbhsbz]

Iam not leaving town over this ! This boat sold on the 10 th July . I had clear title work from seller , I got a call from an unknown person stating their was another vested owner that was not listed on the title. On the 18 th of this month I got a release of interest . The customer wanted only a direct deposit which I refused to do . ( no paper trail ) The wire did post in time today . I will meet with him Monday and a cashiers check will be issued. My only goal at this point is to make him whole and get this behind me.

Tim
Ocm

If the wire transfer posted today, why the fuck do you need to go further? A cashiers check is for what?...if the wire transfer posted?

I have a problem with liars and assholes...and you appear to fit the bill in both cases.

Once again, please explain why you'll deliver a check on Monday even though you claim that the wire transfer posted already and the seller was made whole. Are you some kind of dumbass willing to pay the seller twice?

 

[OldSchoolBoats]

It's yore

Uhh it's actually "you are" an idiot.. Let's keep the grammer straight in here people

It can be you're as well.....

 

[OCM]

Sorry again ! Typo ! The wire DID NOT post by 1 today . Canceled it and will meet with him Monday

Tim
Ocm

 

[lbhsbz]

Sorry again ! Typo ! The wire DID NOT post by 1 today . Canceled it and will meet with him Monday

Tim
Ocm

Why the fuck was it cancelled? Did you not show, and make RD believe that the transfer was initiated yesterday to be funded to the seller either yesterday or this morning? Why was it cancelled?

 

[lbhsbz]

When you released the vessel to new buyer, the buyer handed you least 59K and change. Where is that money?

Edit...you still have a green dot, which means you're (or yoor) still signed on. Answers please.

 

[yz450mm]

Why the fuck was it cancelled? Did you not show, and make RD believe that the transfer was initiated yesterday to be funded to the seller either yesterday or this morning? Why was it cancelled?

It was not cancelled. There was never any legitimate wire transfer initiated, and this was thoroughly documented by RD. This is nothing but more smoke and mirrors to buy more time.

 

[lbhsbz]

It was not cancelled. There was never any legitimate wire transfer initiated, and this was thoroughly documented by RD. This is nothing but more smoke and mirrors to buy more time.

I know, I just want this fuckstick to admit it. After all this, he comes off as "no problem..."

 

[RogerThat99]

Having been in a business where I wired money and received wires on almost a daily basis. I can flat tell you that wires CAN get delayed and the Fed wire transfer system CAN go offline. I have had confirmation numbers in hand, for both incoming and outgoing wires, that took a 1 or 2 business days to go through. It doesn't happen everyday, but it does happen.

I don't know whether Tim wired the money or he didn't because I don't know if he did or didn't. I am just stating the fact that 1) bank wires are not instantaneous in most cases. 2) There are cut off times. and 3) wires can get delayed.

 

[yz450mm]

When you released the vessel to new buyer, the buyer handed you least 59K and change. Where is that money?

Edit...you still have a green dot, which means you're (or yoor) still signed on. Answers please.

I would bet a thousand bucks (green cash) that that money went to pay a past due bill of some sort, in anticipation of receiving more money from some source. Some source did not come through, and now OCM is waiting for a loan or advance to clear his bank so that he can issue a cashier's check.

 

[lbhsbz]

I would bet a thousand bucks (green cash) that that money went to pay a past due bill of some sort, in anticipation of receiving more money from some source. Some source did not come through, and now OCM is waiting for a loan or advance to clear his bank so that he can issue a cashier's check.

Yup.

We can do this all night Timmay. It would be in your (yoor) best interest to come clean.

 

[yz450mm]

Having been in a business where I wired money and received wires on almost a daily basis. I can flat tell you that wires CAN get delayed and the Fed wire transfer system CAN go offline. I have had confirmation numbers in hand, for both incoming and outgoing wires, that took a 1 or 2 business days to go through. It doesn't happen everyday, but it does happen.

I don't know whether Tim wired the money or he didn't because I don't know if he did or didn't. I am just stating the fact that 1) bank wires are not instantaneous in most cases. 2) There are cut off times. and 3) wires can get delayed.

Read River Dave's post, it was all smoke and mirrors with fake numbers. A wire transfer was never initiated.

 

[Icky]

Man you guys are still up doing this shit, at least with all the torches lite I can roast some marshmallows

 

[lbhsbz]

My old engine machinist sold a built deal for $15K...buyer handed him a cashiers check...he walked back into his office and called the # on the check to verify it was legit, then released the engine. Next day at the bank, check was fake, and # on the check from the day before was disconnected, he was an asshole hack and did me wrong a few times, but nobody deserves that.

 

[yz450mm]

Man you guys are still up doing this shit, at least with all the torches lite I can roast some marshmallows[emoji14]

They had almost died out, but Mr OCM himself came back in and lit them with an oxy acetylene torch.

 

[Tommy Gun Images]

You want my business answer or
Personal answer?

If there has been countless other instances where Tim has practiced shitty business practices, Dave should have been on alert. When the first thread broke months ago and the Money handnt been paid, Dave should have been on alert. You don't give some the benefit of the doubt when you already know they are or have been a snake. I'm sorry.

Like I said before, I put myself in the middle of a deal with a few members( one of which I work for) had it
Been anyone else but Ricky and Paul i absolutely wouldn't have stuck my neck out. I know their business practices so
I didn't hesitate. Again I bring up the point, tim's business practices were shady, just because you are friends with the guy doesn't mean you should stick your neck out if there was and Is plain evidence of wrong doing. I'm not going to argue with you tom. The way it seems to me, Dave let a friendship get in the way of business ethics and he paid for it.

Not here to argue with you T. I like you. Always have. Just felt like the band wagon was firing up and having spent as much time with Dave as I have I know he wouldn't have put his neck on the line if he knew that Tim was shady. He may have missed the signs and been too naive to see it but I think he believed the shit Tim was shoveling. That's my opinion, nothing more.

 

[460]

Sorry again ! Typo ! The wire DID NOT post by 1 today . Canceled it and will meet with him Monday

Tim
Ocm

Dude you are a stroke. No one in their right mind is going to listen or believe anything you say at this point. You have no business being in business at this point.

 

[milkmoney]

Not here to argue with you T. I like you. Always have. Just felt like the band wagon was firing up and having spent as much time with Dave as I have I know he wouldn't have put his neck on the line if he knew that Tim was shady. He may have missed the signs and been too naive to see it but I think he believed the shit Tim was shoveling. That's my opinion, nothing more.

Do you not like joker ?

RD did what a friend and business guy would do. RD is in the boat industry and wants all to succeed and make it better. I really believe that. Some agree and some don't on what Rd did. Doesn't matter at the end of the day. RD does what's right for him and his family . I don't think this deal made him look bad , Tim feed him lies , and yes he should of been on alert , again he believed him. I hope to have a friend like that one day [emoji2]

Tom ( pinky) I consider you and upstanding guy and a river friend. I understand you protecting your friend and business associate (RD). And yes jokers post could be taken the way you took it. I do not believe it was meant to be that way. I don't want to see you too to not continue your online and in person friendship over a fuckstick (OCM). [emoji2]

Joker, I understand your comment. I didn't take it the way you meant cause I might know you alittle better that pinky does , maybe re-read the words before hitting send. I try to also. Again we are all pretty tight here and don't want to see it go south over a fuckstick (OCM)

OCM. Stop making excuses of why this and that didn't happen , a person that keeps saying it will get done tomorrow, will never do it. Kinda sounds like you. Don't come in here days later after 1000's of post and say. I will pay on Monday. You have no intentions of paying Monday as you did of yesterday or today. I will say if for some reason by the gracious of the money gods that you do take care of this transaction than good for you. I would still leave town , while you can [emoji107]

RD and I were at the house in the Keys having a beer or two and he was discussing things with me about his personal involvement as well as his business involvement and basically told me that he has to separate the two, not sure u remember that time RD, although u did use both sides in this situation and I understand why you did it. Do I agree is really not important like said above.

C29. I hope for the best for you and you get what you need out of this deal.

Ass for the rest of the assclowns. Well you know. [emoji2][emoji106][emoji12]

 

[boatpi]

L-8015-CV-201407352 OCM OF LAKE HAVASU DEFENDANT Mohave County Superior
L-8015-CV-201407362 OCM OF LAKE HAVASU DEFENDANT Mohave County Superior
L-8015-CV-201507111 OCM OF LAKE HAVASU DEFENDANT Mohave County Superior
J-0804-CV-201401195 OCM OFFSHORE CUSTOM MARINE, LLC DEFENDANT LAKE HAVASU CITY, AZ 86403 Lake Havasu City Justice
L-8015-CV-201407362 OCM OFFSHORE CUSTOM MARINE, LLC DEFENDANT Mohave County Superior
L-8015-CV-201507111 OCM OFFSHORE CUSTOM MARINE, LLC DEFENDANT Mohave County Superior
L-8015-CV-201407352 OCM OFFSHORE CUSTOMER MARINE DEFENDANT Mohave County Superio

Latest case
Case Number: J-0804-CV-201401195
Title: TO-RO ENTERPRISES, INC VS OREG Category: Civil
Court: Lake Havasu City Justice Filing Date: 9/11/2014
Judge: JILL DAVIS Disposition Date: 2/5/2015
OCM OFFSHORE CUSTOM MARINE, LLC DEFENDANT - D 2
OREGON CUSTOM MARINE, INC DEFENDANT - D 1
TO-RO ENTERPRISES, INC PLAINTIFF - P 1
Case Activity
Date Description Party
2/5/2015 STATEMENT
2/5/2015 DEFAULT JUDGMENT
2/5/2015 MOTION
1/12/2015 CHECK FILE
11/7/2014 APPL FOR ENTRY OF DEFAULT
11/7/2014 NOTICE
11/7/2014 AFFIDAVIT FOR DEFAULT
9/17/2014 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
9/11/2014 CIVIL (JUSTICE COURT)

 

[JBS]

L-8015-CV-201407352 OCM OF LAKE HAVASU DEFENDANT Mohave County Superior
L-8015-CV-201407362 OCM OF LAKE HAVASU DEFENDANT Mohave County Superior
L-8015-CV-201507111 OCM OF LAKE HAVASU DEFENDANT Mohave County Superior
J-0804-CV-201401195 OCM OFFSHORE CUSTOM MARINE, LLC DEFENDANT LAKE HAVASU CITY, AZ 86403 Lake Havasu City Justice
L-8015-CV-201407362 OCM OFFSHORE CUSTOM MARINE, LLC DEFENDANT Mohave County Superior
L-8015-CV-201507111 OCM OFFSHORE CUSTOM MARINE, LLC DEFENDANT Mohave County Superior
L-8015-CV-201407352 OCM OFFSHORE CUSTOMER MARINE DEFENDANT Mohave County Superio

Latest case
Case Number:J-0804-CV-201401195
Title:TO-RO ENTERPRISES, INC VS OREGCategory:Civil
Court:Lake Havasu City JusticeFiling Date:9/11/2014
Judge:JILL DAVISDisposition Date:2/5/2015
OCM OFFSHORE CUSTOM MARINE, LLC DEFENDANT - D 2
OREGON CUSTOM MARINE, INC DEFENDANT - D 1
TO-RO ENTERPRISES, INC PLAINTIFF - P 1
Case Activity
DateDescriptionParty
2/5/2015 STATEMENT
2/5/2015 DEFAULT JUDGMENT
2/5/2015 MOTION
1/12/2015 CHECK FILE
11/7/2014 APPL FOR ENTRY OF DEFAULT
11/7/2014 NOTICE
11/7/2014 AFFIDAVIT FOR DEFAULT
9/17/2014 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
9/11/2014 CIVIL (JUSTICE COURT)

Talk about a string of "bad luck"[emoji41]

 

[crzy2bealive]

Iam not leaving town over this ! This boat sold on the 10 th July . I had clear title work from seller , I got a call from an unknown person stating their was another vested owner that was not listed on the title. On the 18 th of this month I got a release of interest . The customer wanted only a direct deposit which I refused to do . ( no paper trail ) The wire did post in time today . I will meet with him Monday and a cashiers check will be issued. My only goal at this point is to make him whole and get this behind me.

Tim
Ocm

Your reputation is already ruined with me and I'll make damn sure everyone knows to stay away from ocm

Did it fund today. If it did you would not be needing to make it right on Monday. I spent 2 days reading all the posts on the fasini deal and the repossession of the molds. I was convinced that you were only trying to protect you client. Now it is making it seem that my perception was wrong. All that you can do now is to make it right. You sucked people in with bougas paper work. People who went out of there way to support you. Shame on you

 

[riverrunner1984]

What % of the sale do these consignment places generally get?

 

[Singleton]

What % of the sale do these consignment places generally get?

It depends. I have seen anywhere from 5-10%. When selling my first boat I looked into it and was quoted 5, my dad used someone in Chicago for his ride and it was 10.

 

[riverrunner1984]

It depends. I have seen anywhere from 5-10%. When selling my first boat I looked into it and was quoted 5, my dad used someone in Chicago for his ride and it was 10.

So if one is moving 6-8 boats per month at 5% of 60+k it seems like a very nice source of income. I'm perplexed as to how one could not pay what is owed???? SMH

 

[lebel409]

this sites going down.lol

I was thinking the same thing...not from anything in the thread, but from the servers crashing from all the traffic.

It's hard not to do business with friends sometimes. Look at Havasu, a small town surrounded by much smaller towns...that many people from 300 miles in any direction travel to often. Look at how many times a boat is being sold and members know the last 3 owners, when the engine was rebuilt, etc. And Dave not only has the site but personal connections to several of the people and boats.

Dave tried hard to make it work for everyone...above and beyond IMO...being in the middle becomes a lose-lose situation, except for the fact that his reputation stayed solid.

 

[River Lynchmob]

Having been in a business where I wired money and received wires on almost a daily basis. I can flat tell you that wires CAN get delayed and the Fed wire transfer system CAN go offline. I have had confirmation numbers in hand, for both incoming and outgoing wires, that took a 1 or 2 business days to go through. It doesn't happen everyday, but it does happen.

I don't know whether Tim wired the money or he didn't because I don't know if he did or didn't. I am just stating the fact that 1) bank wires are not instantaneous in most cases. 2) There are cut off times. and 3) wires can get delayed.

I agree with you Scott...but this guy must have done 5 or more wires to C29 with no success and a bunch of bull shit excuses...I sent one on Tuesday and it was in hand in less than 45 min. There is ZERO truth to anything this guy says. Come Monday there will be an entirely new line of excuses...if he can even be found!

 

[RVR SWPR]

Has it been decided where the Gallows will be built?Rotary Park should be able to handle the crowds.Rdp can handle the after hanging party.Wtf

 

[Ibeplumbing]

What a shirt position C29 is in, also the new buyer. I wouldn't buy or sell through OCM prior to this just because of previous history. But this case ices it. It's really a shame too, great facility, great location, nice boats, good for boating community. Too bad there's such a shit guy running the show. I hope all works out as it should but I'm not holding my breath either. After this deal is done, Tim should close up and move on out. His reputation is completely fucked after this. Whether or not he thinks it's not that bad, it is. You don't get so much bad press for no reason, then when people still come, and don't get their money after the boat is sold, there's no way people with any clue will use them in the future. It's amazing the lengths liars will go to to not get caught or skate by

Did Christopher Collins ever get his money?

 

[River Lynchmob]

I can't wait until that building says Maxed Out Marine on it! Guys with their shit together!

 

[Singleton]

Did Christopher Collins ever get his money?

Can't remember when Collins settled out of court, but the timing of when C29's boat sold and the Collins settlement sure seems to support the theories that have been posted (rob C29 to pay Collins).

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

Is DCB still associated with this fucktard? Wasn't he like their dealer in LHC? The DCB logo was on the sign if I recall correctly. If so they should sever that tie.

 

[Hammer]

I can't wait until that building says Maxed Out Marine on it! Guys with their shit together!

I searched for the property owner online to no avail. Curious what the lease is on that building...

 

[markmcbx]

After reading this lengthy thread, it appears to me that RD got stuck in the middle of what surely sounds to me like a very questionable deal by this OCM outfit. He tried to help the deal along and got screwed for his efforts. I don't know anyone in these forums but just voicing my opinion on this issue.
I've seen my own share of shady/shaky business practices in a lot of years of living and it all boils down to people who overextend themselves with someone else's money, and that someone else ends up holding an empty sack(or a sack of shit) in the end because of that dealer's financial indiscretion. Kind of reminds me of our current government(without getting into politics in this thread)the way this has went down. Also, people these days think it's OK to overextend themselves to the point of no return and then just walk away or try to weasel out of it at everyone else's expense, which is criminal at best. I'll not ever use this OCM place's services for anything if that's the way they do business.
Funny thing, with as much desert as we have around here, it's really interesting that crooks like this don't disappear more frequently and are never found.......people can end up going away and not on their own terms. Hope it never comes down to that as I certainly don't condone committing a crime to resolve a crime.
See what happens on Monday.......

 

[plaster dave]

I searched for the property owner online to no avail. Curious what the lease is on that building...

It's got to be over 10k. That's a big nut every month.

 

[boatpi]

That building is the newer Campbell building. Wonder if Bob and his lovely wife owned it? West Marine building is next door and was built at the same time.

 

[Sandlord]

A call from an unknown person... Yeah right

 

[tb230razor]

OCM is done[emoji16]

 

[Mini Kat]

O=OUT
C=COUNTING
M=MONEY
:blah:

 

[CampbellCarl]

That building is the newer Campbell building. Wonder if Bob and his lovely wife owned it? West Marine building is next door and was built at the same time.

After Bob died, Judy attempted to keep things together to no avail. If memory serves, I think that Judy did a voluntary turnover of the land and buildings to the bank that issued the construction loan.

 

[tunnel vision]

So is the OCM store open today? If so someone post some videos of the mass exodus.

 

[2Driver]

After reading this lengthy thread, it appears to me that RD got stuck in the middle of what surely sounds to me like a very questionable deal by this OCM outfit. He tried to help the deal along and got screwed for his efforts.
I've seen my own share of shady/shaky business practices in a lot of years of living and it all boils down to people who overextend themselves with someone else's money, and that someone else ends up holding an empty sack(or a sack of shit) ....

Mentor

 

[Struv]

Have all RPD boats been pulled from OCM? If not, let us know. It's only a matter of hours before you won't be able to.

 

[regor]

We need a live feed w/commentary set up at OCM! Get it done, I'll pay for it. I just need to sell a boat first.

 

[copterzach]

So did Dave get the DCM vdrive out of there?

 

[Backlash]

One of you guys HAS to jam down there and film the chaos! Watching Tim run around like a chicken with his head cut off would be better than watching newbies at Site Six on a Memorial Day weekend!

LMFAO!!

 

[Backlash]

I heard RD grabbed Danny's boat but a few minutes later, I saw the picture of Dave's Schiada hooked up to the black Chevy. So I don't know! I sure hope so!!!!!

 

[OldSchoolBoats]

So did Dave get the DCM vdrive out of there?

Yes.

 

[RiverDiva]

I heard RD grabbed Danny's boat but a few minutes later, I saw the picture of Dave's Schiada hooked up to the black Chevy. So I don't know! I sure hope so!!!!!

The boat was removed from OCM yesterday.

 

[Bobby V]

We need a live feed w/commentary set up at OCM! Get it done, I'll pay for it. I just need to sell a boat first.

I'm in Havasu Roger. Send me the $$$. You know I'm good for it.

 

[Backlash]

Thank you for doing that for Danny and all of the supporters who know what that boat represents to his family and the members here.