Live Shooter in San Berdo

wsuwrhr · Dec 3, 2015

Motoxxxloak said:
But in Texas.....

Yea, but it didn't, it happened in our backyard liberal paradise.

Tank · Dec 3, 2015

wsuwrhr said:
Yes.

In CA, bad, be prepared to defend your freedoms, while being on bail, if you can afford it.

Yes.

Bad, misdemeanor and you will likely forfeit your weapon

Id highly argue this.

A) no district attorney's office is going to want the PR nightmare of filing on a hero. Hard enough to get fucking DA's to file on riteous criminals!!

B) you will absolutely get your weapon back assuming you are the reg'd owner and there's no other circumstances

wsuwrhr · Dec 3, 2015

Tank said:
Id highly argue this.

A) no district attorney's office is going to want the PR nightmare of filing on a hero.

B) you will absolutely get your weapon back assuming you are the reg'd owner and there's no other circumstances

A, possibly, but in CA? I doubt it.

B, you are higher than giraffe pussy, sir.

RiverDave · Dec 3, 2015

River Lynchmob said:
9 million of those fuckers in here.

I'd be perfectly fine with them not being here.. or hell for that matter not being anywhere.

RD

RodnJen · Dec 3, 2015

RiverDave said:
I'd be perfectly fine with them not being here.. or hell for that matter not being anywhere.

RD

So from your other post and this, you want 9 million people with in our borders dead?

Moneypit · Dec 3, 2015

Outdrive1 said:
I hope there isn't another one of these fucktards still running around.

Yes, Bergdahl the deserter is still running around and he lives where there are thousands of weapons/ammo stored.... I remember enlisted men in pre trial confinement for fist fights, and this deserter is still walking around free....???
Ray

wsuwrhr · Dec 3, 2015

Tank said:
Id highly argue this.

A) no district attorney's office is going to want the PR nightmare of filing on a hero. Hard enough to get fucking DA's to file on riteous criminals!!

B) you will absolutely get your weapon back assuming you are the reg'd owner and there's no other circumstances

PR nightmare?

Oh please Tank.

How about the Attorney General filing on AZ and TX for trying to protect their open southern borders? All while the FEDs do NOTHING on the one thing the FED is responsible for?

Backlash · Dec 3, 2015

Tank said:
Id highly argue this.

A) no district attorney's office is going to want the PR nightmare of filing on a hero. Hard enough to get fucking DA's to file on riteous criminals!!

B) you will absolutely get your weapon back assuming you are the reg'd owner and there's no other circumstances

Well, it all depends.

You COULD get your weapon back but if that firearm has been identified as a "Crime gun," you can kiss it goodbye. In California, I doubt you will convince a judge to release said weapon after it was used in a crime....regardless of whether or not it was registered to you.

You most likely would be labeled a hero and no charges would be filed against you if you used a firearm to defend the lives of others in an incident similar to what happened yesterday. Just know that you will be put in a very tough spot even if you did eliminate the threat and you managed to save the lives of others.

I'll carry regardless and cross that bridge if I'm ever in a situation where deadly force is utilized. Better to be hailed a hero, chance the judicial system and the loss of a firearm in order to save the lives of others. A small price to pay.

LomitaBob · Dec 3, 2015

Backlash said:
Well, it all depends.

You COULD get your weapon back but if that firearm has been identified as a "Crime gun," you can kiss it goodbye. In California, I doubt you will convince a judge to release said weapon after it was used in a crime....regardless of whether or not it was registered to you.

You most likely would be labeled a hero and no charges would be filed against you if you used a firearm to defend the lives of others in an incident similar to what happened yesterday. Just know that you will be put in a very tough spot even if you did eliminate the threat and you managed to save the lives of others.

I'll carry regardless and cross that bridge if I'm ever in a situation where deadly force is utilized. Better to be hailed a hero, chance the judicial system and the loss of a firearm in order to save the lives of others. A small price to pay.

this is my thoughts exactly but I always wonder...

I am not the toughest guy around but I am not going to be shot like a fish in a fucking barrel either!

Tank · Dec 3, 2015

wsuwrhr said:
A, possibly, but in CA? I doubt it.

B, you are higher than giraffe pussy, sir.

That's weird. I speak from experience. You?

Tank · Dec 3, 2015

Backlash said:
Well, it all depends.

You COULD get your weapon back but if that firearm has been identified as a "Crime gun," you can kiss it goodbye. In California, I doubt you will convince a judge to release said weapon after it was used in a crime....regardless of whether or not it was registered to you.

You most likely would be labeled a hero and no charges would be filed against you if you used a firearm to defend the lives of others in an incident similar to what happened yesterday. Just know that you will be put in a very tough spot even if you did eliminate the threat and you managed to save the lives of others.

I'll carry regardless and cross that bridge if I'm ever in a situation where deadly force is utilized. Better to be hailed a hero, chance the judicial system and the loss of a firearm in order to save the lives of others. A small price to pay.

I'm referring to Joe blow citizen gets caught carrying a concealed gun but isn't a criminal, guns reg'd to them etc. you am will get your gun back though it'll be after probation and you've got it released from DOJ. Used in a crime? Never get it back.

Used to kill the shooters in an active shooter scenario? Never get it back.

wsuwrhr · Dec 3, 2015

Tank said:
I'm referring to Joe blow citizen gets caught carrying a concealed gun but isn't a criminal, guns reg'd to them etc. you am will get your gun back though it'll be after probation and you've got it released from DOJ. Used in a crime? Never get it back.

Used to kill the shooters in an active shooter scenario? Never get it back.

AAhhhh there is the rub. Define "crime" sir.

Brian

wsuwrhr · Dec 3, 2015

Tank said:
That's weird. I speak from experience. You?

Same, yes.

River Lynchmob · Dec 3, 2015

RiverDave said:
I'd be perfectly fine with them not being here.. or hell for that matter not being anywhere.

RD

I agree 1000%

Tank · Dec 3, 2015

wsuwrhr said:
AAhhhh there is the rub. Define "crime" sir.

Brian

Used to "commit" a crime.; Used in the commission of a crime independent of the initial possession charge.

wsuwrhr · Dec 3, 2015

Tank said:
Used to "commit" a crime.; Used in the commission of a crime independent of the initial possession charge.

Perhaps you have never heard the word "scapegoat"

VoodooMedMan · Dec 3, 2015

Tooms22 said:
1) The DA could definitely charge the person if they wanted. But if they saved a bunch of people, it would probably be a slap on the wrist or nothing at all.

2) I have had cop buddies tell me that packing without a permit is less serious than carrying an illegal knife. Apparently the NRA fights for that.

Disclaimer: None of the info is for sure, it's just what I've heard.

True for the most part. I'm sure the guys here and certainly my buddies would at most unload it and put it in the trunk with a wink. Think of the public outrage if someone was charged if they had stopped the attacks yesterday.

Tank said:
In guessing no. He wouldn't get in trouble.

It's a misdemeanor. Ticket, fine at the MOST.

however a concealed dirk dagger is a felony as is a baton or bat etc.

Laws are weird.

Misdemeanor if gun is registered to you. If not then it is a felony. But that would be the charge. Utilizing a firearm to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm or rape is legal even for a felon. Now shutup though and let the lawyer do the talking.

River Lynchmob · Dec 3, 2015

RodnJen said:
So from your other post and this, you want 9 million people with in our borders dead?

I wont speak for ole RD but I think he is saying he'd like them out of the country and be more like Japan and not allow Muslims in this country.

Tank · Dec 3, 2015

wsuwrhr said:
Same, yes.

As we've learned (many through this thread) different counties will handle differently.

But there is no law that says you can't have you gun back of charged with a misd., even the possession of said gun.

However I'm not saying it's as easy as walking in and getting your gun bank. You have to petition DOJ and wait to be off probation (if probation was a result of your possession of the gun). Presuming you have no felonies, gun is regestered to you, you haven't been committed for mental health issues and the gun was not used in the commission of a crime (again, independent of the possession charge). You'll get it back. It's just going to take some time.

VoodooMedMan · Dec 3, 2015

wsuwrhr said:
A, possibly, but in CA? I doubt it.

B, you are higher than giraffe pussy, sir.

No I actually agree with him. And also think about locality. This is a red state outside of LA and San Francisco etc. I doubt and San Bernardino County DA would file. I mean look at all the talk of CCW's. Yes that is Sheriff but look at the difference in counties.

wsuwrhr · Dec 3, 2015

VoodooMedMan said:
Now shutup though and let the lawyer do the talking.

Yes sir. It ain't my first rodeo.

We have the best legal system money can buy. It will likely cost a second on the home, or the home itself.

Tank · Dec 3, 2015

VoodooMedMan said:
No I actually agree with him. And also think about locality. This is a red state outside of LA and San Francisco etc. I doubt and San Bernardino County DA would file. I mean look at all the talk of CCW's. Yes that is Sheriff but look at the difference in counties.

It's all speculating regarding being charged. From my first hand experience with working with our DA - they wouldn't file.

RodnJen · Dec 3, 2015

River Lynchmob said:
I wont speak for ole RD but I think he is saying he'd like them out of the country and be more like Japan and not allow Muslims in this country.

Fair enough.

VoodooMedMan · Dec 3, 2015

Tank said:
It's all speculating regarding being charged. From my first hand experience with working with our DA - they wouldn't file.

Don't come in here like you know it all or something.

Tank · Dec 3, 2015

VoodooMedMan said:
Don't come in here like you know it all or something.

Lol Sorry.

I claim to know a little about a lot and a lot about a little but not all about anything.

wsuwrhr · Dec 3, 2015

Tank said:
Lol Sorry. I claim to know a little about a lot and a lot about a little but not all about anything.

...and most of us are here for the same reason.

Brian

Tank · Dec 3, 2015

wsuwrhr said:
...and most of us are here for the same reason.

Brian

Exactly. Good discussion is what it's all about.

was thatguy · Dec 3, 2015

LomitaBob said:
this is my thoughts exactly but I always wonder...

I am not the toughest guy around but I am not going to be shot like a fish in a fucking barrel either!

If you've never been in that position, I think you would be amazed at what you are capable of.

VoodooMedMan · Dec 3, 2015

Tank said:
Lol Sorry. I claim to know a little about a lot and a lot about a little but not all about anything.

We have more in common that you think. :thumbup:

Activated · Dec 3, 2015

I thought this interview was interesting.

At the 3 minute mark it starts to get interesting and at the 4 minute mark he shares something I don't think most people would believe.

[video]http://ktar.com/player/?a=317238[/video]

riverroyal · Dec 4, 2015

Activated said:
I thought this interview was interesting.

At the 3 minute mark it starts to get interesting and at the 4 minute mark he shares something I don't think most people would believe.

[video]http://ktar.com/player/?a=317238[/video]

Anything serious from a guy with that hair cut

Activated · Dec 4, 2015

riverroyal said:
Anything serious from a guy with that hair cut

With that sense of style, he has nothing better to do than to study mass shootings!

RitcheyRch · Dec 4, 2015

This just proves we can not vet these people.

As CBS News reported, Tashfeen Malik, the Pakistan-born wife of attack ringleader Syed Farook ? whom he married in Mecca ? passed a full Department of Homeland Security counter-terrorism screening before the Obama DHS issued her a K-1 (?fianc?e?) visa:

http://toprightnews.com/breaking-st...terrorist-should-halt-obamas-refugee-program/

Activated · Dec 4, 2015

Female pledged allegiance to ISIS after shooting via Facebook.

We are doomed.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/04/us/san-bernardino-shooting/index.html

regor · Dec 4, 2015

Activated said:
Female pledged allegiance to ISIS after shooting via Facebook.

We are doomed.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/04/us/san-bernardino-shooting/index.html

I wouldn't say doomed necessarily, we just need to throw the bitches out of the WH & Congress who continue to bring this shit to our soil.

Activated · Dec 4, 2015

we just need to throw the bitches out of the WH & Congress who continue to bring this shit to our soil.[/QUOTE]

In other words, we are doomed?

regor · Dec 4, 2015

Activated said:
In other words, we are doomed?

It's possible. A few more attacks and enough liberal Utopia dreaming fools will pull their heads out. Bitches will be crying for Trump or Cruz. :thumbup:

t&y · Dec 4, 2015

regor said:
It's possible. A few more attacks and enough liberal Utopia dreaming fools will pull their heads out. Bitches will be crying for Trump or Cruz. :thumbup:

This actually might be one of the only positives about this situation. Maybe people will finally realize there are bigger isses that fabricated racism and who the Kardassians are banging.

Tragic as it is, many people need something like this to open their eyes.

regor · Dec 4, 2015

t&y said:
This actually might be one of the only positives about this situation. Maybe people will finally realize there are bigger isses that fabricated racism and who the Kardassians are banging.

Tragic as it is, many people need something like this to open their eyes.

It's the ONLY thing that can save this nation from the traitors that currently run it IMO. That POS in the White House will continue to protect his beloved Islam, but it won't matter, the morons will wake up.

VoodooMedMan · Dec 4, 2015

t&y said:
Kardassians .

I see what you did there.

Stainless · Dec 4, 2015

I don't get the ISIS thing, why are people willing to die, for what? When these two dropped their kid off that morning they knew they wouldn't ever see that child again. It's not like ISIS or any other terrorist organization will be able to make rich/support the kid or any other relative here, they will be on the FBI's watch all of their lives. Surely they have watched enough news to know their fate would be how much lead poisoning a human can endure.

wsuwrhr · Dec 4, 2015

Stainless said:
I don't get the ISIS thing, why are people willing to die, for what? When these two dropped their kid off that morning they knew they wouldn't ever see that child again. It's not like ISIS or any other terrorist organization will be able to make rich/support the kid or any other relative here, they will be on the FBI's watch all of their lives. Surely they have watched enough news to know their fate would be how much lead poisoning a human can endure.

Human life means nothing to them.

My wife and I talked about the same thing last night. As a father and head of the home, I could not imagine any scenario I could do something like that.

Brian

Tank · Dec 4, 2015

In light of recent events - thought I'd represent today while out and about.

VoodooMedMan · Dec 4, 2015

Stainless said:
I don't get the ISIS thing, why are people willing to die, for what? When these two dropped their kid off that morning they knew they wouldn't ever see that child again. It's not like ISIS or any other terrorist organization will be able to make rich/support the kid or any other relative here, they will be on the FBI's watch all of their lives. Surely they have watched enough news to know their fate would be how much lead poisoning a human can endure.

Because according to the Quran they believe that they are when they die doing Jihad against infidels they will go to a special heaven and have 72 virgins.

Stainless · Dec 4, 2015

VoodooMedMan said:
Because according to the Quran they believe that they are when they die doing Jihad against infidels they will go to a special heaven and have 72 virgins.

I don't think it's working for them all that well.

wsuwrhr · Dec 4, 2015

Stainless said:
I don't think it's working for them all that well.

Yep, the 72 virgins part alone would have me wanting to live forever. WTF wants that?

Brian

rivergames · Dec 4, 2015

wsuwrhr said:
Yep, the 72 virgins part alone would have me wanting to live forever. WTF wants that?

Brian

Screw that. I'd rather have 72 strippers :skull

Stainless · Dec 4, 2015

wsuwrhr said:
Yep, the 72 virgins part alone would have me wanting to live forever. WTF wants that?

Brian

What do the female terrorists get in return for sacrificing their life?

Taboma · Dec 4, 2015

rivergames said:
Screw that. I'd rather have 72 strippers :skull

Bravo, never had a virgin where it was nearly as good as I'd imagined

Let alone trying to get rid of them later :yikes

rivergames · Dec 4, 2015

Taboma said:
Bravo, never had a virgin where it was nearly as good as I'd imagined Let alone trying to get rid of them later :yikes

I remember girls back in the day that would "still" be a virgin by taking it in the pooper and not the baby hole. Bless their hearts

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