Your prediction for our next President?

[wsuwrhr]

I am listening..

Yea, the room got REAL quiet all of a sudden.

 

[Bobby V]

I think Trump is going to have the votes and the bitch is going to get the office.:thumbsdown

On the good side, there is a shit load of money to be made if Hillary gets in.

I am listening..

Did you see the stock market go up over 2% with the FBI news today.


Stocks surged more than 2% Monday after the FBI said over the weekend that it won't press charges against Hillary Clinton regarding her email use, as investors bet her chances of besting Donald Trump have improved.

 

[TCHB]

Did you see the stock market go up over 2% with the FBI news today.


Stocks surged more than 2% Monday after the FBI said over the weekend that it won't press charges against Hillary Clinton regarding her email use, as investors bet her chances of besting Donald Trump have improved.

Yes great day in the market.

 

[pronstar]

Did you see the stock market go up over 2% with the FBI news today.


Stocks surged more than 2% Monday after the FBI said over the weekend that it won't press charges against Hillary Clinton regarding her email use, as investors bet her chances of besting Donald Trump have improved.

Is there truly causality between the FBI announcement and the market?
Or we're there other factors responsible?

One could say stocks rallied because the Raiders beat Denver and is now leading their division, for example.

 

[dread Pirate]

LOL!

 

[Boozer]

There's a silver lining in all of this if Hillary gets elected (which I'm fairly certain she will).

A Clinton presidency is almost guaranteed to be a one term presidency. Hillary will enter the Oval Office as the most unliked president in US history.

The GOP appears to have a hold on Congress. The senate will likely go back to the Dem's but it will be a very short stint, the GOP will likely get the senate back in the mid terms.

Hillary is going to be an even bigger lame duck president than Obama. The Supreme Court thing is going to suck but there's a good chance the GOP senators can filibuster any appointments requiring bipartisan approval to confirm any Nominee to the Supreme Court.

If the GOP can put up a good candidate in 2020 the GOP will take back the White House. I sincerely hope they'll get their heads out of their asses and start throwing more support to Rand Paul. His platform and position on many social issues make him very popular with swing voters, I could see him even winning in California.

 

[RiverDave]

There's a silver lining in all of this if Hillary gets elected (which I'm fairly certain she will).

A Clinton presidency is almost guaranteed to be a one term presidency. Hillary will enter the Oval Office as the most unliked president in US history.

The GOP appears to have a hold on Congress. The senate will likely go back to the Dem's but it will be a very short stint, the GOP will likely get the senate back in the mid terms.

Hillary is going to be an even bigger lame duck president than Obama. The Supreme Court thing is going to suck but there's a good chance the GOP senators can filibuster any appointments requiring bipartisan approval to confirm any Nominee to the Supreme Court.

If the GOP can put up a good candidate in 2020 the GOP will take back the White House. I sincerely hope they'll get their heads out of their asses and start throwing more support to Rand Paul. His platform and position on many social issues make him very popular with swing voters, I could see him even winning in California.

If a silver lining is wading neck deep in sewage for four years.. then i guess?

 

[wsuwrhr]

LOL!

Sad thing is people said the same thing, BOTH times bob won. Insert sad face.

 

[rivrrts429]

Did you see the stock market go up over 2% with the FBI news today.


Stocks surged more than 2% Monday after the FBI said over the weekend that it won't press charges against Hillary Clinton regarding her email use, as investors bet her chances of besting Donald Trump have improved.

It couldn't be that she's bought and paid for by the Wall Street 1% and without her in the big chair she can't repay all the favors she's sold Lol

 

[McRib]

In the end. Its gonna be a hillary win till about 5pm. Then all the Republicans will get off of work and go vote :skull

 

[wsuwrhr]

The Supreme Court appointments WILL fundamentally change this country in ways bob only dreamed he could have.

Brian

There's a silver lining in all of this if Hillary gets elected (which I'm fairly certain she will).

A Clinton presidency is almost guaranteed to be a one term presidency. Hillary will enter the Oval Office as the most unliked president in US history.

The GOP appears to have a hold on Congress. The senate will likely go back to the Dem's but it will be a very short stint, the GOP will likely get the senate back in the mid terms.

Hillary is going to be an even bigger lame duck president than Obama. The Supreme Court thing is going to suck but there's a good chance the GOP senators can filibuster any appointments requiring bipartisan approval to confirm any Nominee to the Supreme Court.

If the GOP can put up a good candidate in 2020 the GOP will take back the White House. I sincerely hope they'll get their heads out of their asses and start throwing more support to Rand Paul. His platform and position on many social issues make him very popular with swing voters, I could see him even winning in California.

 

[dread Pirate]

Remember folks, regardless which pos is our next puppet of distraction, We The People will have to come together to rebuild this country.

 

[Boozer]

If a silver lining is wading neck deep in sewage for four years.. then i guess?

There's no denying this whole deal sucks. I'm getting f*cked by Obamacare, fortunately not as bad as many others but I'm still getting f*cked and now I'll likely continue to be f*cked for the next 4 years.

Aside from Obamacare things aren't that bad right now, they could be a whole lot better but unfortunately there are many Americans who think otherwise and are going to elect the head of the biggest organized crime family in this countries history into office tomorrow.

I expect the next 4 years to look a lot like the last 4. I'm not happy about it but I'm trying to look for the positives in an otherwise shitty situation and at this point I see getting a Republican in office after 4 years of Hillary vs 8 years of Bernie as being a positive.

 

[RiverDave]

There's no denying this whole deal sucks. I'm getting f*cked by Obamacare, fortunately not as bad as many others but I'm still getting f*cked and now I'll likely continue to be f*cked for the next 4 years.

Aside from Obamacare things aren't that bad right now, they could be a whole lot better but unfortunately there are many Americans who think otherwise and are going to elect the head of the biggest organized crime family in this countries history into office tomorrow.

I expect the next 4 years to look a lot like the last 4. I'm not happy about it but I'm trying to look for the positives in an otherwise shitty situation and at this point I see getting a Republican in office after 4 years of Hillary vs 8 years of Bernie as being a positive.

I'm still holding out hope that the Trump Train is going to show up in mass tomorrow.. Hillary is sooooo bad, I think it just might happen.

RD

 

[BHC Vic]

The Supreme Court appointments WILL fundamentally change this country in ways bob only dreamed he could have.

Brian

This is the sad truth

 

[Boozer]

The Supreme Court appointments WILL fundamentally change this country in ways bob only dreamed he could have.

Brian

Agreed. But...

There is a filibuster process that would require a super majority vote to confirm a nominee to the Supreme Court, I fully expect that process to be enacted. You've still got blue dog democrats in the Midwest that would likely not vote to confirm an Uber liberal justice. Between the blue dogs and a a filibuster super majority requirement Hillary is going to be facing an uphill battle to get even a single justice appointed.

All hope is not lost...

 

[wsuwrhr]

Agreed. But...

There is a filibuster process that would require a super majority vote to confirm a nominee to the Supreme Court, I fully expect that process to be enacted. You've still got blue dog democrats in the Midwest that would likely not vote to confirm an Uber liberal justice. Between the blue dogs and a a filibuster super majority requirement Hillary is going to be facing an uphill battle to get even a single justice appointed.

All hope is not lost...

Too many fucking rinos that wont bother. We have already seen it happen.

Parallel universe fallacy.

 

[underpressure]

Agreed. But...

There is a filibuster process that would require a super majority vote to confirm a nominee to the Supreme Court, I fully expect that process to be enacted. You've still got blue dog democrats in the Midwest that would likely not vote to confirm an Uber liberal justice. Between the blue dogs and a a filibuster super majority requirement Hillary is going to be facing an uphill battle to get even a single justice appointed.

All hope is not lost...

^^^^
Ever heard of the "nuclear option"? They invoked a small "nuke" under ole one eye Harry...that is the Democratic majority changed over 200 years of presidence to allow a "simple majority" to override a filibuster of lower level judicial appointees.

Now, they are already (Cuck Schumer if the Demos win the majority) talking about envoking the full nuke and apply it to Supreme Court appointments...

Don't get your hopes too far up if the evil bitch and her cronies get the POTUS and Senate...

 

[Bobby V]

Is there truly causality between the FBI announcement and the market?
Or we're there other factors responsible?

One could say stocks rallied because the Raiders beat Denver and is now leading their division, for example.

It couldn't be that she's bought and paid for by the Wall Street 1% and without her in the big chair she can't repay all the favors she's sold Lol

Don't know if it was the Raiders or who bought and paid who. All I know is the market was up over 300 points. And if the stock market guys say it was the news from the FBI I'm good with either. :thumbup: :skull

 

[KevinR]

There's a silver lining in all of this if Hillary gets elected (which I'm fairly certain she will).

A Clinton presidency is almost guaranteed to be a one term presidency. Hillary will enter the Oval Office as the most unliked president in US history.

The GOP appears to have a hold on Congress. The senate will likely go back to the Dem's but it will be a very short stint, the GOP will likely get the senate back in the mid terms.

Hillary is going to be an even bigger lame duck president than Obama. The Supreme Court thing is going to suck but there's a good chance the GOP senators can filibuster any appointments requiring bipartisan approval to confirm any Nominee to the Supreme Court.

If the GOP can put up a good candidate in 2020 the GOP will take back the White House. I sincerely hope they'll get their heads out of their asses and start throwing more support to Rand Paul. His platform and position on many social issues make him very popular with swing voters, I could see him even winning in California.

I like your optimism. However, you are assuming the Republicans in the Senate or House would actually do something to blunt a Hillary Executive Order or anything else the Democrats put forth to further erode our personal liberties. That has not happened in the past 6 years, why should we think it will now?

My opinion is this very Republican inaction, after telling us to vote them a congressional majority so they can stop the Obama/Progressive agenda, is precisely what got Trump the nomination. They have done nothing. Then the Republican establishment wonders why their chosen candidates get smoked by an outsider in the primaries.

I like a lot about Rand Paul. But what makes you think the Republican establishment will support a candidate that wants to reduce federal government power and perks? And Paul maybe win in California? The home of illegal immigrants and public service unions and pensions?

Personally I now believe the Republican Party is just a few steps behind the Democrats/Progressives/Socialists in their desire to take care of themselves as they sell the country out to the almighty dollar.

 

[MOUZER]

IM GONNA REPEAT MYSELF BEFORE U VOTE HILLARY......If
SOMETHING WAS TO HAPPEN TO HER LIKE ILLNESS OR PLANE CRASH (EXAMPLE) CANT PERFORM HER DUTYS do you really really want KANE AS YOUR COMMANDER IN CHEIF........AND DONT COMPLIAN ABOUT 4 MORE YRS OF OBAMA.:grumble::grumble:

IF SOMETHING HAPPENED TO TRUMP......PENSE WOULD MAKE A AWSOME PRESIDENT.........

 

[Stainless]

I just don't see the math in the polls for Trump to win. 320 Clinton, 218 Trump.

 

[Abc123]

Remember folks, regardless which pos is our next puppet of distraction, We The People will have to come together to rebuild this country.

:thumbup:

I really wish more Americans would realize this then walk away from TV, radio, WSJ, twitter and all the other make believe "news".

 

[G. Faulk]

I'm curious, and this is coming from someone who absolutely fucking hates politics. I see good and bad points in both Demo and Repub. But after reading several threads on the presidential election on RD I, and maybe I'm wrong, but way more bashing on HC then really saying what DT can do to be a good president.

After reading this thread almost all the way through I ask the DT supporters which are the majority on this site, do you want DT to win more because you hate HC that much? Is it that shocking to think of a woman president? Or do you really think he'd be a good commander in chief?

Not talking shit in the slightest just curious.

 

[LuauLounge]

Early on, I was a Trump supporter and day by day he convinced me he wasn't able to do this job. California watched a similar situation with Arnold S. aka Arnold Kennedy, who thought he would change California just like Donald will. Sorry folks, ain't gonna happen. Donald couldn't keep campaign managers, who he hired to get him elected. So, he can chose folks, but nobody is gong to work with him, Republican or Democrat.
Do any of you go to the Pizza Parlor looking for a Mechanic? Do you go to the hardware store looking to have your teeth fixed? How about the gas station for surgery?
Trump has 0 political experience and cannot change anything. He has 0 support in Washington and will be a failure.
I want change, but I want someone that has a chance to bring that about.
See you in 4 years

 

[LuckyDaze]

The civil war 2 comments crack me up. Our country can't even get out to vote let alone fight each other anywhere other than online. America is too busy watching other people's reality on tv.

Voter attrition and a fundamental ignorance on how our country works is why this election is so spectacular.

The funny thing I saw in Trumps grab em in the pussy video wasn't the conversation, it was when he tried to exit the bus. Trump is so used to everyone waiting on him he knocked on the window for someone to let him out. It didn't dawn on him that he was supposed to open his own door and Billy had to lend a hand... and this is the champion of the middle class???!! Lol I'd be surprised if Trump has even had to go grocery shopping for himself.


Both these fools are so far departed from the life you and I lead it's absurd. I'm just thankful that my bills are low and i make most my own food. When inflation starts because nobody wants to buy our debt there's gonna be some fun times ahead.

Steaming Pile of shit 2016

 

[OutCole'd]

I'm curious, and this is coming from someone who absolutely fucking hates politics. I see good and bad points in both Demo and Repub. But after reading several threads on the presidential election on RD I, and maybe I'm wrong, but way more bashing on HC then really saying what DT can do to be a good president.

After reading this thread almost all the way through I ask the DT supporters which are the majority on this site, do you want DT to win more because you hate HC that much? Is it that shocking to think of a woman president? Or do you really think he'd be a good commander in chief?

Not talking shit in the slightest just curious.

I have zero issue with a woman president, just not this woman. I dislike them both a ton, just dislike him a little less than her. Her history of lies and corruption is something I just can't get past. I don't think either will make a good president.

One thing for sure, at the end of this term, our country will be farther in dept regardless who wins.

 

[RodnJen]

Then why hasn't this thread been about the issues? Other than brief stop on the SCOTUS there has been little about the issues.

 

[530RL]

Agreed. But...

There is a filibuster process that would require a super majority vote to confirm a nominee to the Supreme Court, I fully expect that process to be enacted. You've still got blue dog democrats in the Midwest that would likely not vote to confirm an Uber liberal justice. Between the blue dogs and a a filibuster super majority requirement Hillary is going to be facing an uphill battle to get even a single justice appointed.

All hope is not lost...

The nuclear option will be installed if the D's win the Senate.

More important than the Presidential election is how the Senate turns out. The D's only need 50 if HRC is elected. The R's need to maintain 51.

 

[Kahunajuice]

I just don't see the math in the polls for Trump to win. 320 Clinton, 218 Trump.

Facts are facts, enough said.

 

[530RL]

At the end of the day, no matter who wins we will all wake up Wednesday morning and go to work.

No matter what our problems, we were still born into and live in the greatest country in the world.

I'll take that any day over the other options. :thumbsup:thumbsup

 

[MOUZER]

At the end of the day, no matter who wins we will all wake up Wednesday morning and go to work.

No matter what our problems, we were still born into and live in the greatest country in the world.

I'll take that any day over the other options. :thumbsup:thumbsup

my bags r packed for canada just incase hillary wins..............

 

[westair]

my bags r packed for canada just incase hillary wins..............

The liberal party's in full control of that country ..... might as well stay here where the weather's nice .... just disconnect your cable and wait 4 yrs

 

[Boozer]

Then why hasn't this thread been about the issues? Other than brief stop on the SCOTUS there has been little about the issues.

Neither candidate has done a great job of speaking to the issues. Hillary has done a better job than Trump but this election has mostly been a mud slinging contest.

Hillary's biggest line of the campaign: "When they go low we go high." The only Hillary commercials I've seen as of late are commercials quoting Trump making sexist remarks and destroying his character based on so called locker room talk and things he said that have been taken completely out of context. I'd hardly call that going high.

"Donald's biggest line of the campaign: "Let's make America great again." His ads have mostly been him wearing his red hat standing in front of huge crowds saying we're going going to fix this and we're going to fix that but he never says how we're going to fix those things.

From watching main stream media sources on a fairly regular basis I've seen one video reel of Trump outlining his plan on how he's going to accomplish the things he says. I haven't seen a single one from Hillary but I've seen numerous clips of her speaking to social issues that a lot of people are concerned about.

So on the issues.. Here's one. The establishment has the ability to hack voting systems and modify election results. If the establishment doesn't want a certain candidate to win they have the tools to make it happen. Neither party wants a Trump win because he'll f*ck the establishment. In this particular election I think Trump has stuck his foot in his mouth enough to give the W to Hillary without rigging the election but if things aren't going the way the establishment wants the video below tells all.

[video=youtube_https;t75xvZ3osFg]https://youtu.be/t75xvZ3osFg[/video]

 

[Willie B]

my bags r packed for canada just incase hillary wins..............

...If Trump wins I'm moving to Mexico ...I'm going to be the superintendent building the wall ...Since I speak quite a bit of Spanish and Mexico will be paying for it why not???...:thumbup:

 

[coolchange]

"Meet the new boss,same as the old boss."

 

[GRADS]

...If Trump wins I'm moving to Mexico ...

X2 I just hope I can get over there before the wall is built.:rolleyes

 

[dribble]

Early on, I was a Trump supporter and day by day he convinced me he wasn't able to do this job. California watched a similar situation with Arnold S. aka Arnold Kennedy, who thought he would change California just like Donald will. Sorry folks, ain't gonna happen. Donald couldn't keep campaign managers, who he hired to get him elected. So, he can chose folks, but nobody is gong to work with him, Republican or Democrat.
Do any of you go to the Pizza Parlor looking for a Mechanic? Do you go to the hardware store looking to have your teeth fixed? How about the gas station for surgery?
Trump has 0 political experience and cannot change anything. He has 0 support in Washington and will be a failure.
I want change, but I want someone that has a chance to bring that about.
See you in 4 years

Logic has no place on an internet political discussion thread.

 

[Flyinbowtie]

I voted for Mr. Trump but I do not think he will win.
I hope I am wrong.
In the event I am right I hope that people wise up over the next 4 years and see the damage done by the Progressive Movement. However, the brainwashing effort done by the Socialists has been working for 40 years to get us here, and with the help of the education system, the media, Hollywood, and the rest of the button-pushers with the $$$$ their dream is close to fruition.
Too many people don't seem to give a damn anymore.
I hope the Conservatives in this country take a long hard look at themselves and start, tomorrow, to plan for 2020. This was an easily winnable election. It is possible that the National Debt will finally bring the economy to a screeching halt, which may actually make people wise the hell up and see the damage out of control federal spending has done to the nation. It is also possible that she will so damage the Supreme court that is not possible to save the Republic as we know it.
There is no doubt in my mind she will be a one-term president due to her age and deteriorating health. If we get enough people with just a hint of testicular fortitude in the Legislative Branch and we hold her down as much as possible. Kane will be easily defeatable in 2020 as well.
I am 58 years old and this is the most consequential election in my lifetime, without question.
I have been preparing for the impact I believe 4 more years of socialist leadership will have on my family, and we will do the best we can to weather the storm.

 

[2Driver]

Hillary is going to run away with this election today.

I remember being in the same frame of mind on the last election day thinking Romney had a chance.

 

[copterzach]

[video=youtube_https;im8ozKdEsFw]https://youtu.be/im8ozKdEsFw[/video]

 

[RGH'sBaba]

Because of my age (72) i have had the time to follow this election cycle and enjoyed it.Imo,If Trump loses today he will be back in the next cycle,his age is not a factor.His campaign has become a movement i have not seen in my lifetime,except possibly Pres.Reagan.For Trump this will be just a warm-up campaign if not the winner today.
Also,fwiw,been on RDP since the beginning,RD your post yesterday in this thread is incredible.:thumbsup

Oh sweet. We can lose another election that should have been an easy win.
But what to do when he finally kicks the bucket? Find some other unelectable recent demoncrat rino that 70% of the country detests?

 

[Cole Trickle]

It's time for the republican party to understand that a conservative candidate and hopes of creating a smaller government are never going to happen. They are going to need to find a pretty face fiscal conservative with liberal views.

Obama created jobs and lowered unemployment only by creating more debt......We are living in a fake monopoly world of just re shuffling $$$

The pyramid scheme is too big at this point to start reducing government. How many people would be out of jobs if Gary johnson or Rand Paul were elected and got there way?

I don't think we have done anything except add to the national debt since Calvin Coolige was in office 90 years ago.....

 

[River Lynchmob]

Neither candidate has done a great job of speaking to the issues. Hillary has done a better job than Trump but this election has mostly been a mud slinging contest.

Hillary's biggest line of the campaign: "When they go low we go high." The only Hillary commercials I've seen as of late are commercials quoting Trump making sexist remarks and destroying his character based on so called locker room talk and things he said that have been taken completely out of context. I'd hardly call that going high.

"Donald's biggest line of the campaign: "Let's make America great again." His ads have mostly been him wearing his red hat standing in front of huge crowds saying we're going going to fix this and we're going to fix that but he never says how we're going to fix those things.

From watching main stream media sources on a fairly regular basis I've seen one video reel of Trump outlining his plan on how he's going to accomplish the things he says. I haven't seen a single one from Hillary but I've seen numerous clips of her speaking to social issues that a lot of people are concerned about.

So on the issues.. Here's one. The establishment has the ability to hack voting systems and modify election results. If the establishment doesn't want a certain candidate to win they have the tools to make it happen. Neither party wants a Trump win because he'll f*ck the establishment. In this particular election I think Trump has stuck his foot in his mouth enough to give the W to Hillary without rigging the election but if things aren't going the way the establishment wants the video below tells all.

[video=youtube_https;t75xvZ3osFg]https://youtu.be/t75xvZ3osFg[/video]

This is why I and everyone here should request a paper ballot.

 

[2Driver]

It would have been Romney year easily.

 

[Uncle Dave]

Popular vote doesn't matter so much in an electoral college system.
So the social media although lively isn't a great predictor.

Hillary is going to win it.
Trump will be a distant 2nd.

We're fucked as a nation either way.

UD

 

[DaveC]

Here is my take on this election. Both candidates did a horrible job of getting their message out. They both spent too much time talking AT each other and not enough time talking to the American people.

Trump is a terrible politician and communicator. He has a message that if properly delivered would probably resonate with a lot of people. He should probably spend less time attacking and more time EFFECTIVELY communicating his message. Hillary's campaign figured out early on that if they bruised his ego he would respond with a barrage of nonsense. The GOP cannot count in the big media to help get their message out so they must do it themselves. But that is nothing new and prior campaigns have done so without the media's help.

Hillary is un-electable due to her baggage and her message only appeals to her base of liberals. Her campaign had been in trouble since the beginning because they need to spend time attacking Trump in an effort to deflect attention from their core problems. Therefore she was not on message either which was a bunch of nonsense anyway. If the democrats had a decent candidate without so much baggage they would be up double digits on Trump. If they lose that is a giant black eye to the Hillary campaign.

The fact that she is not up double digits on Trump goes to show that integrity does matter to some people.

Either way we are screwed.

 

[regor]

And it starts.

Election judges in Clinton Township, Butler County PA confirmed there were issues with two of their eight automated voting machines. Most of the issues came when people tried to vote straight party ticket.

However, other said they specifically wanted to vote for Republican Donald Trump only to see their vote switched before their eyes to Democrat Hillary Clinton.

"I went back, pressed Trump again. Three times I did this, so then I called one of the women that were working the polls over. And she said you must be doing it wrong. She did it three times and it defaulted to Hillary every time,"

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016/11/08/some-problems-reported-as-voters-head-to-polls/

Trump will still pull it out against the cheating scumbags known as........................tards! :finger

 

[DaveC]

Someone mentioned anecdotal evidence of support for Trump. I see that being the case in small town American and states like Arizona. But we here in the big city see something entirely different. D

I live in the Bay Area which has 7 million residents. Absolutely nobody here is voting Trump. Matter of fact I cannot put up a Trump sign unless I want my house fire-bombed. The only votes Trump gets here is myself, my wife and two other guys. LOL :rolleyes (OK I am exaggerating, he will get 10 votes here )

Great Los Angeles has 13 million residents. I understand that the city of Los Angeles and some surrounding communities lean heavily democrat. I suspect those areas are leaning Hillary. You guys that live there can comment.

In California I don't think Orange county can stem the tide of Hillary voters from the rest of the state. :grumble:

 

[RCDave]

Someone mentioned anecdotal evidence of support for Trump. I see that being the case in small town American and states like Arizona. But we here in the big city see something entirely different. D

I live in the Bay Area which has 7 million residents. Absolutely nobody here is voting Trump. Matter of fact I cannot put up a Trump sign unless I want my house fire-bombed. The only votes Trump gets here is myself, my wife and two other guys. LOL :rolleyes

Great Los Angeles has 13 million residents. I understand that the city of Los Angeles and some surrounding communities lean heavily democrat. I suspect those areas are leaning Hillary. You guys that live there can comment.

In California I don't think Orange county can stem the tide of Hillary voters from the rest of the state. :grumble:

Outside of San Diego, LA, and The Bay Area, California is much like the Mid-West. But the three population centers dwarf the headcount in the rest of the state. :eek