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Your prediction for our next President?

Who do you expect to win?

  • Clinton

    Votes: 53 27.6%
  • Trump

    Votes: 138 71.9%
  • Johnson, (Gary... not Dave)

    Votes: 1 0.5%

  • Total voters
    192
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RiverDave

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My family has about 40+ voters in it. All but 3 are voting Trump. My mom, 1 aunt and 1 uncle are voting Hilary.
I don't think Trump will win.
I have a crazy theory for 2020.
I think Obama will release all the dirt he's got on Hilary. She will get impeached and Michelle Obama will run for the Democratic Party.
I think Ivanka Trump will run for the Republican Party.
I know it sounds crazy but this is my theory.

How about this theory:

Hillary gets indited but never spends a day in jail, Trump gets fake assassinated, Obama declares state of emergency and becomes the last US president? :D

Just wondering if the tin foil hats affect cell phone reception?

I'm not really sure I'm one to talk though.. LOL I'm about 98% convinced the NSA and Homeland Security are listening to my phone conversations now.. :D

RD
 

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The poor have been voting Democrat for 50 years and they are still poor.
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[video=youtube;s7uScWHcTzk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7uScWHcTzk[/video]

I haven't watched the whole thing but I thought it was pretty interesting back ground wise for both candidates. From a psychological point of view it shows how there child hood directly shaped both of there lives and careers.

I watched the whole thing yesterday on PBS, and yes their childhoods somewhat reflect their personas as they are today, more so with Trump than Clinton and it was a good watch.
 

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Because I have to see them at family Christmas parties :grumble:

We are staying in Havasu this year.. LOL The traffic, the travel with the kids = pain in the ass. To top it off listening to a couple idiots in my family is just too much for me to deal with anymore.

RD
 

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We are staying in Havasu this year.. LOL The traffic, the travel with the kids = pain in the ass. To top it off listening to a couple idiots in my family is just too much for me to deal with anymore.

RD

My problem is the fact that when I get drunk around them, I can't politely hold my tongue back from calling out their idiotic thoughts
 

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I have looked at all kinds of online polls..

The ones I find most interesting are the random guys doing the "Just type Clinton / Trump.. No reasons or text why" in their timelines.. I have seen probably 30 of those with 100's and even 1000's of comments.. It's overwhelmingly trump.

The only polls I see where he isn't landsliding ahead are mainstream media? Some of those polls are made up of 900 people? Like Games said, I know personally maybe 3-4 people voting for Clinton, and then there's another 3 or 4 on this website (in my opinion they are too stupid to breathe.. but whatever) Every other person I know is voting for Trump. I Know one person who never received their absentee ballot and is driving 1600 miles (round trip) all the back back to NM just to Vote for Trump tomorrow.

RD
 

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Hillary, the dead have voted early and often.


God save the Queen!:rolleyes
 

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The poor have been voting Democrat for 50 years and they are still poor.
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Just like all the poor who have been voting republican. The government in general doesn't care about your wealth and prosperity. Only it's own.
 

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I watched the whole thing yesterday on PBS, and yes their childhoods somewhat reflect their personas as they are today, more so with Trump than Clinton and it was a good watch.

Two people that are driven by the way there dads treated them.

I think Hillary bombing the Washington bar and moving to Arkansas and marrying bill sent her on a much longer path than she originally intended.....she has know what she wanted for a very long time and would do anything to achieve her goals.
 

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Just like all the poor who have been voting republican. The government in general doesn't care about your wealth and prosperity. Only it's own.

Or those voting republican who have seen government over-reach increase day by day.
 

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My guess is that the 43,000,000 folks on Food stamps are not going to vote Trump or anyone related to the 20,000,000 illegals.

1 generation ago people were ashamed to accept government assistance. Now its a lifestyle goal.
 

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My guess is that the 43,000,000 folks on Food stamps are not going to vote Trump or anyone related to the 20,000,000 illegals.


I recently had to make a few stops out in the sticks. I'm talking redneck, trailer trash straight up republicans. I saw Trump signs throughout. Those people don't look rich or free from government aid.
:rolleyes

Both parties love to hand out domestic and foreign aid. It's how they obtain and retain control.;)

To think a politician is going to solve your problems or satisfy your desires is like thinking Santa will bring you that new bicycle you want for Christmas.
 

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Hillary is guaranteed to win California, it's a fact. She doesn't need your vote to win CA's electoral votes (and doesn't deserve it anyways..), and therefore a vote for Trump in CA is also effectively a waste. So why not do something constructive with your vote and cast it for Gary Johnson?

If Johnson gets 5% of the POPULAR vote he qualifies for Presidential Election Campaign Fund grants which would help bring a 3rd party to the main stage in the next election.

These two parties we're expected to choose from are ridiculous; one promotes incompetence through spending on social programs that the hardworking involuntarily get to pay for and the other has opinions on social issues straight from 1800's hill country.

What if we had a party that was fiscally responsible AND didn't impede on personal liberties?

Sick of having to choose between assholes? Stop voting for them.
 

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Just like all the poor who have been voting republican. The government in general doesn't care about your wealth and prosperity. Only it's own.

I recently had to make a few stops out in the sticks. I'm talking redneck, trailer trash straight up republicans. I saw Trump signs throughout. Those people don't look rich or free from government aid.
:rolleyes

Both parties love to hand out domestic and foreign aid. It's how they obtain and retain control.;)

To think a politician is going to solve your problems or satisfy your desires is like thinking Santa will bring you that new bicycle you want for Christmas.

I'm not looking for the government to solve any of my problems. i'm looking for them to stop creating problems by solving other people's problems. (both foreign and domestic) and making me pay for it!
 

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I recently had to make a few stops out in the sticks. I'm talking redneck, trailer trash straight up republicans. I saw Trump signs throughout. Those people don't look rich or free from government aid.
:rolleyes

Both parties love to hand out domestic and foreign aid. It's how they obtain and retain control.;)

To think a politician is going to solve your problems or satisfy your desires is like thinking Santa will bring you that new bicycle you want for Christmas.

The top 6 states that are on food stamps, 4 are red states. Miss, Tenn, WV and LA. NM and Ore are blue states.
 

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I'm not looking for the government to solve any of my problems. i'm looking for them to stop creating problems by solving other people's problems. (both foreign and domestic) and making me pay for it!

What an oxymoron. Government needs problems in order to exist. They will always create problems and divide the citizens to retain power over us.

I find it amusing that most all republicans are for increasing military expenses, but are against foreign aid. They go hand in hand. Lol

Us Gov: "Here's some money(aid), now let us build a military base and give us control over your natural and economic resources". :rolleyes
 

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Just wondering if the tin foil hats affect cell phone reception?

I'm not really sure I'm one to talk though.. LOL I'm about 98% convinced the NSA and Homeland Security are listening to my phone conversations now.. :D

RD

RD, now your ego is getting the best of you. [emoji15]
 

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Hillary is guaranteed to win California, it's a fact. She doesn't need your vote to win CA's electoral votes (and doesn't deserve it anyways..), and therefore a vote for Trump in CA is also effectively a waste. So why not do something constructive with your vote and cast it for Gary Johnson?

If Johnson gets 5% of the POPULAR vote he qualifies for Presidential Election Campaign Fund grants which would help bring a 3rd party to the main stage in the next election.

These two parties we're expected to choose from are ridiculous; one promotes incompetence through spending on social programs that the hardworking involuntarily get to pay for and the other has opinions on social issues straight from 1800's hill country.

What if we had a party that was fiscally responsible AND didn't impede on personal liberties?

Sick of having to choose between assholes? Stop voting for them.

Because Gary Johnson is a complete douchbag and there will never be a third party.

The closest we'll ever see was the Tea Party, they are far to normal though.
 

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Who do I want to win, versus who I think will win?? Two entirely different things.

Did you read the question, Bill? Who do you expect to win?

As our own River Dave mentioned, I see a lot of under-reported Trump support. But it sure seems like the fix is in for Grads' lying cheating traitorous whore of a candidate.

He has a real chance, but she will probably squeak out a win with 44% of the vote.... Obama won with 43% I think... :thumbsdown
 

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Never realized that there are that many delusional people on this site.:eek I mean 68 people really think he's going to win?:lmao
 

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Hillary wins it easily. My belief is majority of voters aren't yapping about it on social media where it doesn't make a shit bit of difference . They'll just vote
 

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Hillary by a landslide, it will take an tremendous act of fate for Trump to win. This election was bought and sold long ago, and the "republicans" knew this before the race was barely off the ground. I partially believe this is how Trump got this far.

TLDR; Nothing anyone can say or do will make me vote for the bitch.
 

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Just wondering if the tin foil hats affect cell phone reception?

I'm not really sure I'm one to talk though.. LOL I'm about 98% convinced the NSA and Homeland Security are listening to my phone conversations now.. :D

RD

Yeah, you'll probably wake up any day now to find that you have committed suicide by shooting your self in the back of the head, twice.
 

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RD, now your ego is getting the best of you. [emoji15]

Not really. LOL

What an oxymoron. Government needs problems in order to exist. They will always create problems and divide the citizens to retain power over us.

I find it amusing that most all republicans are for increasing military expenses, but are against foreign aid. They go hand in hand. Lol

Us Gov: "Here's some money(aid), now let us build a military base and give us control over your natural and economic resources". :rolleyes

How do you figure that?

Yeah, you'll probably wake up any day now to find that you have committed suicide by shooting your self in the back of the head, twice.

No shit right?

RD
 

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Anyone who cannot defeat Hillary is a very weak candidate. I DESPISE Hillary and what she stands for. But, Trump is exactly who Hillary wished to run against. She and the DNC believed they would be able to play him like a violin, and they have. Trump will likely lose. But he will as much lose due to his own ego as losing to Hillary. Yes, I believe the DNC also knew they had shit waiting to reveal on Trump. Such as his comments with Billy Bush. Most of his numerous Tweets did NOT help him. Most appeared to be driven by his ego. Negative comments about a Gold Star mother and mocking a person with a disability are not very likely to get anyone elected. In each case I believe it was his ego acting and speaking. All of these offensive acts are minor compared to what Hillary has commented. But, the Clinton's are able to again keep their acts "gray and slimy". And the states with the majority of the electoral votes tend to go liberal. I am sick and fucking tired of the liberal elite. But, I'm afraid I'm going to have to suck it up for 4 more years.

11/9 - But, I was wrong. We won't have HRC and the rotten Clinton way of ruling for the next 4 years. Congrats to Trump. Now, let's get to work and make our Country Great and hopefully together.
 

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...My fingers are crossed...
 

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My family has about 40+ voters in it. All but 3 are voting Trump. My mom, 1 aunt and 1 uncle are voting Hilary.
I don't think Trump will win.
I have a crazy theory for 2020.
I think Obama will release all the dirt he's got on Hilary. She will get impeached and Michelle Obama will run for the Democratic Party.
I think Ivanka Trump will run for the Republican Party.
I know it sounds crazy but this is my theory.

It always trips me out. Similar to 2008 and 2012... Only a handful of people would even talk about Obama, and obviously he walked away with both elections.

Yesterday, my wife and I went on a golf cart cruise for a couple hours. I didn't see one sign for Hillary, but saw at least 40 Trump signs around town.

How is it still neck and neck?
 

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It always trips me out. Similar to 2008 and 2012... Only a handful of people would even talk about Obama, and obviously he walked away with both elections.

Yesterday, my wife and I went on a golf cart cruise for a couple hours. I didn't see one sign for Hillary, but saw at least 40 Trump signs around town.

How is it still neck and neck?

Because Orange County, riverside and dan bernandino are the only republican areas in this state and that's where we all live...lol
 

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This map pretty much sums up how the electoral college works...this deal is largely decided before it even starts.

I would be surprised if AZ and NV don't go to trump and god knows what FL is going to do...lol

If Hillary wins any of the yellow states it's a wrap. IMG_8642.jpg
 

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It always trips me out. Similar to 2008 and 2012... Only a handful of people would even talk about Obama, and obviously he walked away with both elections.

Yesterday, my wife and I went on a golf cart cruise for a couple hours. I didn't see one sign for Hillary, but saw at least 40 Trump signs around town.

How is it still neck and neck?

The thing is, most of us run in pretty similar circles on many factors, geography, income brackets (middle class and up), and for the most part white by the roll call I am sure. I would say this is why we only see one candidate supported, but I am presuming if we took a drive up to UC Berkeley and those nuts, we would be hard pressed to find many Trump signs, and again if we go into areas where minorities are the majority. Let alone if you went to the traditionally democrat New England Area. I would venture to guess its quite an overwhelming majority of river folks are anti Hillary if not full blown pro Trump, but if we changed where we lived and were hanging out on a black lives matter forum for example, it would be the other way around. And as I said earlier, after all the states that are always voting democrat, she only needs to carry like Florida, Ohio, and a few others to get the 270. I just have a feeling it will go like 4 years ago, hopefully wrong.
 

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It always trips me out. Similar to 2008 and 2012... Only a handful of people would even talk about Obama, and obviously he walked away with both elections.

Yesterday, my wife and I went on a golf cart cruise for a couple hours. I didn't see one sign for Hillary, but saw at least 40 Trump signs around town.

How is it still neck and neck?
Do you honestly believe the media? There job is to sway people to vote for who they want(And the powers that be want)
It has taken 8 years of Obama and people still don't get it. Just keep on watching the news without sifting thru the bullshit and see what happens.
 

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I think Trump is going to have the votes and the bitch is going to get the office.:thumbsdown

On the good side, there is a shit load of money to be made if Hillary gets in.;)
 

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If Johnson gets 5% of the POPULAR vote he qualifies for Presidential Election Campaign Fund grants which would help bring a 3rd party to the main stage in the next election.

I do agree with your premise, but the "what if's" are a tough pill to swallow.

You will have to do it without me.
 

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If he eeks out the popular vote in more than a few states and doesn't get the EC to vote with him, I see VERY BAD things on the horizon.

Brian
 
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