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Bpracing1127 said:
Yep just announced
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Well, it is more expensive to live in California vs S Carolina so I guess that's why it's an extra 20 bucks.

This is fucking bullshit, immigrants are getting all the taxpayers money while the taxpayers are getting fucked when they need it most. Fuck biden, kamala and the rest of the fucking democrats. Infuriating 🤬🤬

Taxation without representation.

Come on Jan 20th
 
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LakeMeadLavey said:
That river bottom is full of vagrant tweaker encampments. Not a surprise there was a fire there. Sure @Tank knows those river bottoms well.
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Yep. That fire is fortunately out. They had 4 copters working it last night for a few hours and beat it into submission. Helped the winds werent bad over night. And yeah, the River bottom is straight up Barder Town from Mad Max. Fuckin' walking dead all over down there. Cars, structures, camps everywhere. It's mindboggling how many people and structures and shit is down there. Straight up wild west down there. Shit needs to be napalmed. lol
 
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In 2019, the LA Department of Water and Power (LADWP) began replacing nearly 100-year-old power line poles cutting through Topanga State Park, when the project was halted within days by conservationists outraged that federally endangered Braunton’s milkvetch plants had been trampled during the process. 🤣

How California eco-bureaucrats halted a Pacific Palisades fire safety project to save an endangered shrub

The good news for the milkvetch plant is that they usually need wildfire to sprout — meaning dormant seeds now have a massive new habitat for a new crop of the rare shrub.
nypost.com
 
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Gramps said:
My type 6 truck (F350 flatbed) picked up a nail.....Ground support on the Eaton fire charged us $170 to plug it!!!!!!!
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But tell us how much your truck is making each day it’s on the fire. Type 6 staffed 4:0.
 
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regor said:
In 2019, the LA Department of Water and Power (LADWP) began replacing nearly 100-year-old power line poles cutting through Topanga State Park, when the project was halted within days by conservationists outraged that federally endangered Braunton’s milkvetch plants had been trampled during the process. 🤣

How California eco-bureaucrats halted a Pacific Palisades fire safety project to save an endangered shrub

The good news for the milkvetch plant is that they usually need wildfire to sprout — meaning dormant seeds now have a massive new habitat for a new crop of the rare shrub.
nypost.com
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Wonder how those plants are doing after the fire blew through?
 
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@thejoed69 on Instagram: "I’m not a pilot but I have to imagine that you have to be an absolute BADASS to skim the water in what is basically a flying tank, over and over all day long, and do it with the accuracy it takes to scoop up 1,000+ gallons o

163K likes, 5,473 comments - thejoed69 on January 11, 2025: "I’m not a pilot but I have to imagine that you have to be an absolute BADASS to skim the water in what is basically a flying tank, over and over all day long, and do it with the accuracy it takes to scoop up 1,000+ gallons of water and...
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Gramps said:
$1216.00 for 16 hour shift. But the irritation to me is Cal Fire ground support charges $170 to plug a tire
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Sounds like a supplemental bill is going to be in order when you get it back....

Edit:...who the hell dictates those numbers? A government toilet seat costs 10 times that. $1216 might be truck rental...what about the manpower? Are they included in that figure?
 
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Wizard29 said:
Likely never. Like with any other service, you are free to not be a customer and source your own through whatever means you have available.
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That’s not true. I am not able to go off the grid with Edison.
 
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rmarion said:

This Aviation Life on Instagram

71K likes, 2,876 comments - thisaviationlife on January 13, 2025
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Best comment.... "these pilots have to fly these large planes because their balls won't fit in anything smaller."

Putting a 200ft long plane into a maneuver like that at what....400ft? Fuck me....lol. The guy in the hot seat knows WTF he's doing that's for sure.
 
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FEMA spokesperson just announced those who lost everything, who don't have homeowner's insurance, can apply for a FEMA grant. The MAXIMUM dollar amount for this grant is $43,600. That's it.

You can be a homeowner, who prior to these fires, lost their homeowner's insurance for whatever reason..... You either didn't get insurance through another company or couldn't obtain it for a myriad of reasons.... Well, unfortunately you just lost EVERYTHING due to these fires, and our government MIGHT be able to assist with a grant for $43,600???

That's unbelievable.

How much have we sent and continue to send to Ukraine?!?!? 🤬🤬🤬🤬
 
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regor said:
In 2019, the LA Department of Water and Power (LADWP) began replacing nearly 100-year-old power line poles cutting through Topanga State Park, when the project was halted within days by conservationists outraged that federally endangered Braunton’s milkvetch plants had been trampled during the process. 🤣

How California eco-bureaucrats halted a Pacific Palisades fire safety project to save an endangered shrub

The good news for the milkvetch plant is that they usually need wildfire to sprout — meaning dormant seeds now have a massive new habitat for a new crop of the rare shrub.
nypost.com
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Luckily for the econazis, the plant's seeds will only sprout after exposure to fire. There should be lots of new ones for them to protect in the coming years.

Good job!
 
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Gramps said:
My type 6 truck (F350 flatbed) picked up a nail.....Ground support on the Eaton fire charged us $170 to plug it!!!!!!!
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There are gouging laws, but not when it comes to charging the government.
 
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Backlash said:
FEMA spokesperson just announced those who lost everything, who don't have homeowner's insurance, can apply for a FEMA grant. The MAXIMUM dollar amount for this grant is $43,600. That's it.

You can be a homeowner, who prior to these fires, lost their homeowner's insurance for whatever reason..... You either didn't get insurance through another company or couldn't obtain it for a myriad of reasons.... Well, unfortunately you just lost EVERYTHING due to these fires, and our government MIGHT be able to assist with a grant for $43,600???

That's unbelievable.

How much have we sent and continue to send to Ukraine?!?!? 🤬🤬🤬🤬
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I'm not sure the government should be picking up the tab for someone who is uninsured. If the homeowner was not able to afford the insurance they should have sold the property. Sometimes we allow ourselves to be places we shouldn't be. The insurance companies are not the culprit here, the state of California has let this disaster happen with 40 plus years of mismanagement on the surrounding lands. This is maybe why 30 years ago when there were high winds during fire season the fires were not so devastating, the land was managed better and not allowed to become such a hazard. The residents allowed this to happen by votes and not demanding better land management from the state. God forbid you speak out against the enviro cult, residents and the insurance companies now suffer for remaining silent. I feel for everyone who lost in this tragedy, but they allowed this tragedy by not speaking up. Has an insurance company ever brought up the fact they are cancelling policies because of wild land mismanagement, or are the afraid to be anti environmental. This was not a natural disaster, just a lot of years of kicking the can. JMHO
 
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LakeMeadLavey said:
That river bottom is full of vagrant tweaker encampments. Not a surprise there was a fire there. Sure @Tank knows those river bottoms well.
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Correct,many years homeless camp area. This the old Wagon Wheel neighborhood.
Today all new Townhouse,Condos, incredible build out of that area that was owned entirely by one man. Bud Smith.
Tank no doubt remembers Buds boat the “Dry Martini”parked at Lobster Trap. Bud owned that place also.
 
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Todd Mohr said:
I'm not sure the government should be picking up the tab for someone who is uninsured. If the homeowner was not able to afford the insurance they should have sold the property. Sometimes we allow ourselves to be places we shouldn't be. The insurance companies are not the culprit here, the state of California has let this disaster happen with 40 plus years of mismanagement on the surrounding lands. This is maybe why 30 years ago when there were high winds during fire season the fires were not so devastating, the land was managed better and not allowed to become such a hazard. The residents allowed this to happen by votes and not demanding better land management from the state. God forbid you speak out against the enviro cult, residents and the insurance companies now suffer for remaining silent. I feel for everyone who lost in this tragedy, but they allowed this tragedy by not speaking up. Has an insurance company ever brought up the fact they are cancelling policies because of wild land mismanagement, or are the afraid to be anti environmental. This was not a natural disaster, just a lot of years of kicking the can. JMHO
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I'm not pointing fingers at anyone in particular, but I do have an axe to grind with regards to insurance companies and the way they've managed to screw over homeowners. I've had firsthand experience and I'll share it with you and others.

We live close to the area where the Eaton Fires have destroyed entire communities. We live in a single family home on a medium-sized residential street in a well-established community. Several years ago, our insurance agent reached out to me with a demand. She said she drove by our house and noticed the roof on our detached garage. I asked her what her concerns were, and told her I didn't have much in the garage to worry about. She essentially went on and demanded we reroof our garage. I told her that was one of the things I planned to do in the near future, but I was preoccupied with remodelling the interior of our home. She told me that if the roof wasn't replaced, she wouldn't be able to insure our home. I asked her what we needed to do in order to continue to receive coverage, and she said I needed to at least apply for the reroof permit with the city within the next 60 days. I told her I would do that and I would keep her in the loop. I dropped what I was doing and began the process of applying for and obtaining the required permits. Everything was completed and I forwarded the information to her. I hopped up on the roof and began tearing off the old roof. Amidst all of this, she reached out to us again and simply said her company was terminating our home-owner's insurance. We were then forced to go shopping for homeowner's insurance mid-remodel. If you know anything about construction and insurance, you know that's a complete pain in the ass and costs homeowners (Us included!), a shit-ton of money.

Insurance companies have been dropping customers for quite some time and you don't necessarily have to live in a rural or high-risk area to be a victim of that. We had no claims with our company and no other reasons to have our coverage terminated.
 
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Todd Mohr said:
I'm not sure the government should be picking up the tab for someone who is uninsured. If the homeowner was not able to afford the insurance they should have sold the property. Sometimes we allow ourselves to be places we shouldn't be. The insurance companies are not the culprit here, the state of California has let this disaster happen with 40 plus years of mismanagement on the surrounding lands. This is maybe why 30 years ago when there were high winds during fire season the fires were not so devastating, the land was managed better and not allowed to become such a hazard. The residents allowed this to happen by votes and not demanding better land management from the state. God forbid you speak out against the enviro cult, residents and the insurance companies now suffer for remaining silent. I feel for everyone who lost in this tragedy, but they allowed this tragedy by not speaking up. Has an insurance company ever brought up the fact they are cancelling policies because of wild land mismanagement, or are the afraid to be anti environmental. This was not a natural disaster, just a lot of years of kicking the can. JMHO
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It's a bit of a double edged sword....

On one hand, we all pay taxes which we hate doing, but those taxes should result in some level of representation, safety, and security. If, after jumping through all the fucking hoops I needed to in order to build a house in that area, and having paid all the fees, etc....they tell me "sorry, yer just fucked" after the security agencies that my tax dollars funded (FD, LE, etc....) couldn't keep me and my things secure....I'd have a bit of a problem with that I think, or a big fucking problem with that.

On the other hand, it's a given that all need insurance to suppliment the known remedial performance of the .gov to whom we hand a lot of money for this very thing.
We all make our choices, some end well and some not so well. The rub comes when the rules change in the middle of the game.....nobody could see that coming and many could not adjust.

I don't know the answer, just that there isn't a good one.
 
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Backlash said:
I'm not pointing fingers at anyone in particular, but I do have an axe to grind with regards to insurance companies and the way they've managed to screw over homeowners. I've had firsthand experience and I'll share it with you and others.

We live close to the area where the Eaton Fires have destroyed entire communities. We live in a single family home on a medium-sized residential street in a well-established community. Several years ago, our insurance agent reached out to me with a demand. She said she drove by our house and noticed the roof on our detached garage. I asked her what her concerns were, and told her I didn't have much in the garage to worry about. She essentially went on and demanded we reroof our garage. I told her that was one of the things I planned to do in the near future, but I was preoccupied with remodelling the interior of our home. She told me that if the roof wasn't replaced, she wouldn't be able to insure our home. I asked her what we needed to do in order to continue to receive coverage, and she said I needed to at least apply for the reroof permit with the city within the next 60 days. I told her I would do that and I would keep her in the loop. I dropped what I was doing and began the process of applying for and obtaining the required permits. Everything was completed and I forwarded the information to her. I hopped up on the roof and began tearing off the old roof. Amidst all of this, she reached out to us again and simply said her company was terminating our home-owner's insurance. We were then forced to go shopping for homeowner's insurance mid-remodel. If you know anything about construction and insurance, you know that's a complete pain in the ass and costs homeowners (Us included!), a shit-ton of money.

Insurance companies have been dropping customers for quite some time and you don't necessarily have to live in a rural or high-risk area to be a victim of that. We had no claims with our company and no other reasons to have our coverage terminated.
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I agree with you as well, insurance companies have become very greedy only wanting the gravy business.
 
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lbhsbz said:
It's a bit of a double edged sword....

On one hand, we all pay taxes which we hate doing, but those taxes should result in some level of representation, safety, and security. If, after jumping through all the fucking hoops I needed to in order to build a house in that area, and having paid all the fees, etc....they tell me "sorry, yer just fucked" after the security agencies that my tax dollars funded (FD, LE, etc....) couldn't keep me and my things secure....I'd have a bit of a problem with that I think, or a big fucking problem with that.

On the other hand, it's a given that all need insurance to suppliment the known remedial performance of the .gov to whom we hand a lot of money for this very thing.
We all make our choices, some end well and some not so well. The rub comes when the rules change in the middle of the game.....nobody could see that coming and many could not adjust.

I don't know the answer, just that there isn't a good one.
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I think part of the answer is the property taxes are actually used to maintain the safety, security, and infrastructure of the property being taxed. We have allowed this to happen and the blame falls on us at some point.
 
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4Waters said:
Wonder how those plants are doing after the fire blew through?
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It gets even more asinine...................

The good news for the milkvetch, however, is that they usually need wildfire to sprout — meaning dormant seeds now have a massive new habitat for a new crop of the rare shrub.


Environmental NAZI's never mention how forests regenerate themselves. 😆
 
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A couple months ago I was shopping homeowners insurance for my pops home with USAA . . . . while on the phone, the agent looked up the address on google maps.
Typical tract home in HB . . . nothing unusual . . . I had to answer a TON of questions 'wild land fire related' . . . she said "I know, I know, these are ridiculous for your area".
Then she put me on a 'recording' she was required to play for me that was strictly for CA customers and I had to acknowledge / accept I understood all that crap at the end.
When all was said & done she gave a quote, which was competitive with AAA, a little more in price, but better coverage.

I then asked that we needed a quote for a single story residential rental on the same street . . . . 'Nope' we don't insure residential rentals.

That ended that.

So from my experience . . . it seems like USAA isn't really that excited to insure ANY home in CA . . . regardless if you're in a fire risk zone or not.
We decided to stay with AAA . . . knowing our luck, we would've switched then USAA would've cancelled our policy.
 
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Desert Whaler said:
A couple months ago I was shopping homeowners insurance for my pops home with USAA . . . . while on the phone, the agent looked up the address on google maps.
Typical tract home in HB . . . nothing unusual . . . I had to answer a TON of questions 'wild land fire related' . . . she said "I know, I know, these are ridiculous for your area".
Then she put me on a 'recording' she was required to play for me that was strictly for CA customers and I had to acknowledge / accept I understood all that crap at the end.
When all was said & done she gave a quote, which was competitive with AAA, a little more in price, but better coverage.

I then asked that we needed a quote for a single story residential rental on the same street . . . . 'Nope' we don't insure residential rentals.

That ended that.

So from my experience . . . it seems like USAA isn't really that excited to insure ANY home in CA . . . regardless if you're in a fire risk zone or not.
We decided to stay with AAA . . . knowing our luck, we would've switched then USAA would've cancelled our policy.
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We had to move our rentals to another company as the one the wife worked for the last 30+ years pulled out of covering rental homes.
 
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regor said:
It gets even more asinine...................

The good news for the milkvetch, however, is that they usually need wildfire to sprout — meaning dormant seeds now have a massive new habitat for a new crop of the rare shrub.


Environmental NAZI's never mention how forests regenerate themselves. 😆
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As I said above, the econazis should be pleased. Maybe someone will point out to them the reason they're rare is BECAUSE THEY NEED A FIRE TO REPRODUCE.

Fucking morons.
 
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rrrr said:
As I said above, the econazis should be pleased. Maybe someone will point out to them the reason they're rare is BECAUSE THEY NEED A FIRE TO REPRODUCE.

Fucking morons.
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It's like the them, they, he, she, its, trying to repopulate the world. lol
 
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Todd Mohr said:
I'm not sure the government should be picking up the tab for someone who is uninsured. If the homeowner was not able to afford the insurance they should have sold the property. Sometimes we allow ourselves to be places we shouldn't be. The insurance companies are not the culprit here, the state of California has let this disaster happen with 40 plus years of mismanagement on the surrounding lands. This is maybe why 30 years ago when there were high winds during fire season the fires were not so devastating, the land was managed better and not allowed to become such a hazard. The residents allowed this to happen by votes and not demanding better land management from the state. God forbid you speak out against the enviro cult, residents and the insurance companies now suffer for remaining silent. I feel for everyone who lost in this tragedy, but they allowed this tragedy by not speaking up. Has an insurance company ever brought up the fact they are cancelling policies because of wild land mismanagement, or are the afraid to be anti environmental. This was not a natural disaster, just a lot of years of kicking the can. JMHO
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Wonder, if any of these people benefited from "Brandon's" College Loan forgiveness program?
 
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Wizard29 said:
So you are telling me you are mandated to have electrical service?
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Yes. Have already tried to disconnect from Edison. There response, we still have to maintain your infrastructure. I haven’t had a bill from Edison in 8 years. Actually they pay me for my net surplus
 
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socal0487 said:
Yes. Have already tried to disconnect from Edison. There response, we still have to maintain your infrastructure. I haven’t had a bill from Edison in 8 years. Actually they pay me for my net surplus
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That's because you signed some deal related to installing your solar system.

Those that haven't can disconnect any time they please.
 
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