The Science is Settled

[wallnutz]

Was your Mom proud and did you receive a passing grade?

Brownie button

 

[TripleB]

He can't see the forest for the trees.

The problem Im having grandpa Mac is, he keeps proving me right with his posts and his data and doesnt understand what he's doing

 

[was thatguy]

My thesis was not about climate change. It was about the ecology and behavior of ravens in coastal Alaska. I did not mention it to establish climate bona fides and I am not a climate expert. I am however scientifically literate. I understand how to read science and I understand both the process of gathering data and analyzing it in a defensible way.

Man I’ve got some Raven stories!

I watched about a dozen Ravens methodically and strategically attack, kill and eat a blue fox on Shemya.

I’ve also seen a line of maybe ten Ravens hovering in perfect order next to a hanger wall where there was an updraft. The one next to the wall would slide over and catch the updraft and perform a “trick” maneuver like a roll or spin.
Then he would glide over to the end of the line and the entire line would slide towards the hanger and the next raven would perform a stunt and so on. Freaky shit.

You look outside at 50 below zero and not a single living thing is visible...except a raven sitting on a dumpster or streetlight.
Ravens are fucking bad Asses.

 

[regor]

Off to study ice!!!!

 

[500bbc]

Do yer part Gturd, take the challenge, save the pranet!

 

[mjc]

I am DEEPLY concerned about America’s fiscal future but don’t see undocumented aliens as the problem. In fact industry welcomes them because they provide the cheap labor which our service, agriculture, and other industries rely on. I am far more concerned that nearly one out of every two dollars in Federal taxes collected goes to fund some aspect of our military industrial complex. You familiar with Dwight Eisenhower’s parting words? That was a Republican who spoke the truth. I’m also concerned that the very richest among us, people like Trump, have found ways to game our broken tax system to avoid paying a fair share. Responsibly reduce military spending (not abrupt decisions to rip troops out of ongoing conflicts) and demand that those who have benefitted from our system to the tune of hundreds of millions or billions of dollars pay accordingly, and it will outweigh immigrant dollars 100:1.

looks like defense is only 16% not 1 out of every 2(50%)

 

[Hullbilly]

The problem Im having grandpa Mac is, he keeps proving me right with his posts and his data and doesnt understand what he's doing

That’s a norm with the window licking troll.

 

[Hullbilly]

The fish and game cop writes a thesis on ecology and costal ravens!! caw caw god bless america and god bless gmac

thanks for your service sir! you do not disappoint

 

[500bbc]

The problem Im having grandpa Mac is, he keeps proving me right with his posts and his data and doesnt understand what he's doing

He's the chief fucking Scout Master imbecile here, a real big muckity muck.

 

[SNiC Jet]

looks like defense is only 16% not 1 out of every 2(50%)

 

[Grandpa mac]

Official NASA global temperature data showed that from Feb 2016 to Feb 2018 the average global temperture dropped by .56 degrees Celsius, so now we're cooling?

Please post your source. If it is accurate and is from NASA I assume there will be a discussion of that data included.

 

[Grandpa mac]

Just as I predicted, you won't produce that which you refer to in making your point. Regardless of the topic, you alluded to the thesis being about the topic and used it to support your point. When called out, you recant and won't produce a thing except more bullshit. Without proof, I doubt there ever was a thesis.

You're a fraud and a troll, pure and simple. And by no producing, an outright liar. I can accept your bullshit to a point, but it's pathetic how you place yourself in a self serving position of being more caring and knowledgeable than others based on nothing but arrogance. Your condescending tone is like fingernails on a chalkboard.

You perfesser, are a phony. You've been called out and as is typical of your rhetoric, you've proven unreliable to your claims.

"I am however JUNK scientifically literate....."----PapawMac

If you say so.

 

[Grandpa mac]

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”

― Mark Twain

I’m learning that.

 

[Grandpa mac]

Bullshit one volcano does more than man has done in the last hundred years. How many volcano eruptions have there been in the last hundred years

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Feel free to post some sourced data to back up that claim.

 

[Hullbilly]

He's the chief fucking Scout Master imbecile here, a real big muckity muck.

Turdpa has an impressive resume:

Constitutional Scholar
Criminal Investigator
Admin Legal Authority
Criminal Law Prosecuter
Special Counsel Advisor
Immigration Expert
Narcotics Agent
Gangs and Violent Crimes Investigator
Economist
Ecologist
Climate Change Scientist (PhD)
Scoutmaster

I’m sure I am mussing a few more of his degrees, career experience and other accolades, but I digress.

Comedy central 2 now returns to gmac the clown show

 

[Grandpa mac]

As long as we are cutting and pasting here you go

Yep, I know he’s a well know climate denier with relevant credentials. If you look I bet you find half a dozen other skeptics whose names are throw around a lot. I’m sticking with the consensus viewpoint rather than the fringe.

 

[Hullbilly]

You’ve got Triple B out smarted Mo keep up the good work

 

[spectra3279]

Turdpa has an impressive resume:

Constitutional Scholar
Criminal Investigator
Admin Legal Authority
Criminal Law Prosecuter
Special Counsel Advisor
Immigration Expert
Narcotics Agent
Gangs and Violent Crimes Investigator
Economist
Ecologist
Climate Change Scientist (PhD)
Scoutmaster

I’m sure I am mussing a few more of his degrees, career experience and other accolades, but I digress.

Comedy central 2 now returns to gmac the clown show

You forgot impeachment specialist.

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[500bbc]

Turdpa has an impressive resume:

Constitutional Scholar
Criminal Investigator
Admin Legal Authority
Criminal Law Prosecuter
Special Counsel Advisor
Immigration Expert
Narcotics Agent
Gangs and Violent Crimes Investigator
Economist
Ecologist
Climate Change Scientist (PhD)
Scoutmaster

I’m sure I am mussing a few more of his degrees, career experience and other accolades, but I digress.

Comedy central 2 now returns to gmac the clown show

Local NAMBLA chapter president

 

[Hullbilly]

You forgot impeachment specialist.

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And Mathematician!

 

[SNiC Jet]

I’m sticking with the consensus viewpoint rather than the fringe.

Really?
Al Gore Humiliation: NASA Study Confirms Sea Levels Are FALLING
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07/al-gore-humiliation-nasa-study-confirms-sea-levels-falling/

And...
Why does the “nonbinding” Paris Climate agreement/pact declare that climate action must include concern for “gender equality, empowerment of women, and intergenerational equity” as well as “the importance for some of the concept of ‘climate justice.’?

This ^^^^ makes your entire argument BULLSHIT! I am very pleased President Trump sees it for what it is....Liberal Bullshit and we have far better things to do with our money!

 

[Old Texan]

If you say so.

Then show us your thesis. Back up your bullshit......How long is it gonna take to write it?

 

[TripleB]

Please post your source. If it is accurate and is from NASA I assume there will be a discussion of that data included.

Really? Come on use the interweb just once, this is getting old fast, you cant look anything up on your own?

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1&q=nasa+temperture+lower+2016-2018

 

[TripleB]

Yep, I know he’s a well know climate denier with relevant credentials. If you look I bet you find half a dozen other skeptics whose names are throw around a lot. I’m sticking with the consensus viewpoint rather than the fringe.

I thought you listened to experts, scientist? Unless they disagree with your point of view?

Thats what I would do, stick with what you want to believe, but absolutely dont ever follow the money. Are you really that naive? Do you really believe the government would never lie?

 

[Carlson-jet]

View attachment 715435
Hey check it out! Jefferson didn’t break the Declaration of Independence up into paragraphs. The string of drool from that asshole is pure diarrhea!

What a thoughtful criticism.

Comparing your drivel with the Declaration of Independence is the perfect example of, well you.

 

[Grandpa mac]

Man I’ve got some Raven stories!

I watched about a dozen Ravens methodically and strategically attack, kill and eat a blue fox on Shemya.

I’ve also seen a line of maybe ten Ravens hovering in perfect order next to a hanger wall where there was an updraft. The one next to the wall would slide over and catch the updraft and perform a “trick” maneuver like a roll or spin.
Then he would glide over to the end of the line and the entire line would slide towards the hanger and the next raven would perform a stunt and so on. Freaky shit.

You look outside at 50 below zero and not a single living thing is visible...except a raven sitting on a dumpster or streetlight.
Ravens are fucking bad Asses.

WTG, I knew I liked you for a reason. Any guy who loves ravens as much as me can’t be all bad. You might enjoy Bernd Heinrich’s book “Mind of the Raven”. These birds are smart as chimps and able to thrive in almost every habitat on earth.

 

[Grandpa mac]

I thought you listened to experts, scientist? Unless they disagree with your point of view?

Thats what I would do, stick with what you want to believe, but absolutely dont ever follow the money. Are you really that naive? Do you really believe the government would never lie?

Here are some experts who have answered virtually every question you and the others have asked. I’m not gonna spend a whole lot more time on this pointless exercise. But if you have a question the rocket scientists haven’t answered let me know.
https://climate.nasa.gov/faq/

 

[Grandpa mac]

Really? Come on use the interweb just once, this is getting old fast, you cant look anything up on your own?

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1&q=nasa+temperture+lower+2016-2018

Fine, I followed YOUR Google link and the first article that pops up is this from the Washington Post- which then goes about specifically answering the question you posed. If you ask, you should be willing to open your ears and mind to the answer.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...ave-cooled-since-2016-heres-why-thats-normal/

 

[SNiC Jet]

But if you have a question the rocket scientists haven’t answered let me know.

Perhaps you simply overlooked this question
Why does the “nonbinding” Paris Climate agreement/pact declare that climate action must include concern for “gender equality, empowerment of women, and intergenerational equity” as well as “the importance for some of the concept of ‘climate justice.’?

 

[TripleB]

Grandpa Mac, you have openly agreed that former global warmings thru time were natural, but suddenly its now man made?
You make this assumption on 30-50 years of questionable temperature recordings vs per you . Now just think about this you are basing your belief on a time frame of .00000001 of the history of planet earth. The equivalent is judging the health of an 80 year old man by examining him for 2 seconds somewhere in his life span. Sound smart?

Being an engineer my assumptions are based on fact not emotion, in reading many of your posts it appears your assumptions are based on emotion thats why many of your posts go angry.

My suggestion, rethink your position with fact not emotion

 

[Grandpa mac]

Fuck, even Exxon repudiates climate change denial. But you guys do you.

 

[TripleB]

Also break my first point? Please find fault in ANYTHING I posted please!!

Not Copy and paste, think it out and find where Im wrong?

The total "weight" of the earth's atmosphere is 5148.0 teratons.
That's 5148 X 10^12 tons.
=5148000000000000 tons

Got that? its a given

The world produced 27245758000 tons of industrial "greenhouse" (cute catchphrase for water vapor, carbon dioxide, methane, and ozone - but they really only mean Carbon dioxide [goes along with carbon credit]) gases in 2007.

This amounts to a whopping 0.000529% of the atmosphere.

Now, the historic average (over the eons) of CO2 in the atmosphere is 0.0396% (Today it’s 0.0384%). The startling thing about this is that it's higher than the present CO2 concentration - It's lower today than the historic average!!! Wow...who'd have thought?

We're supposedly adding to the existing CO2 concentration at a rate of 0.00143%. (that’s a ratio of one-thousandth per year). That can’t be good, right?. Why? Well, damn it, it just doesn’t seem or feel like it could be good – well, golly it CAN’T be good. So it must be bad!

Funny, thing is that we absolutely need some of those “greenhouse” gases. These gases in the atmosphere both absorb and emit radiation within the thermal infrared range. Greenhouse gases are essential to maintaining the current temperature of the Earth; without them this planet would be so cold as to be uninhabitable.

Hmmm...which brings us to a good point. We've supposed to have created these greenhouse gases, right?...so?...we're making more atmosphere? There’s more of it, so it's getting heavier right? Is barometric pressure continuing to rise due to this?.....not really. The chemical makeup of the planet is essentially self-balancing (so are those of the other planets of the solar system, but let's ignore that, too), and will precipitate the imbalances. The vast seas of plankton and our forests help to eliminate the rest by way of photosynthesis. This process has occurred and recurred thousandths of times over eons.

There's also this pesky little thing called conservation of mass and energy; it essentially states that matter and energy cannot be created, nor destroyed, only transferred and transformed. We don't create any of these things, only change them (and then they change back). This carbon has always been here, and always will. It moves and transforms, and the amount that we change it is completely insignificant with regards to this essentially pseudo isotropic system as a whole.

The biggest shocker of all, is that 6 billion humans, and nearly ¼ of that number of livestock on this planet creates more “greenhouse” gas than the burning of fossil fuel.

Beware the scaremongers and idiots telling you otherwise. Better yet, look who's getting rich of the illegitimate premise of global warming, and you'll quickly find your fraud.

 

[Grandpa mac]

Grandpa Mac, you have openly agreed that former global warmings thru time were natural, but suddenly its now man made?
You make this assumption on 30-50 years of questionable temperature recordings vs per you . Now just think about this you are basing your belief on a time frame of .00000001 of the history of planet earth. The equivalent is judging the health of an 80 year old man by examining him for 2 seconds somewhere in his life span. Sound smart?

Being an engineer my assumptions are based on fact not emotion, in reading many of your posts it appears your assumptions are based on emotion thats why many of your posts go angry.

My suggestion, rethink your position with fact not emotion

You get that a phenomena like warming can have multiple causes at different points over earths 4.5 billion year history and that natural warming billions of years agoconcerns me less than warming which we created (and therefore can still reverse) now?

Irregardless, I’m done with the Fox News soundbites; NASA has answered them to the satisfaction of the scientific community. If you don’t want to read the info the experts posted that’s on you.

 

[TripleB]

View attachment 715540 Fuck, even Exxon repudiates climate change denial. But you guys do you.

Wow! Exxon repudiates climate change denial! Well if I was a corporation and my company would profit from a statement, Id pretty much say anything the government wanted

But then again the weather channel guy had a big profit margin, please think stuff thru before posting!

 

[Old Texan]

WTG, I knew I liked you for a reason. Any guy who loves ravens as much as me can’t be all bad. You might enjoy Bernd Heinrich’s book “Mind of the Raven”. These birds are smart as chimps and able to thrive in almost every habitat on earth.

Again you prove you know nothing.....Tommy hates the ravens, he's a diehard browns fan.

 

[TripleB]

You get that a phenomena like warming can have multiple causes at different points over earths 4.5 billion year history and that natural warming billions of years agoconcerns me less than warming which we created (and therefore can still reverse) now?

Irregardless, I’m done with the Fox News soundbites; NASA has answered them to the satisfaction of the scientific community. If you don’t want to read the info the experts posted that’s on you.

Grandpa Mac the decrease in temps from Feb 2016 to Feb 2018 was NASA!

You didnt follow the links did you?

Aaron Brown looked at the official NASA global temperature data and noticed something surprising. From February 2016 to February 2018, "global average temperatures dropped by 0.56 degrees Celsius." That, he notes, is the biggest two-year drop in the past century.

"The 2016-2018 Big Chill," he writes, "was composed of two Little Chills, the biggest five month drop ever (February to June 2016) and the fourth biggest (February to June 2017). A similar event from February to June 2018 would bring global average temperatures below the 1980s average."

 

[SNiC Jet]

View attachment 715540 Fuck, even Exxon repudiates climate change denial. But you guys do you.

It's called proactive Marketing 101.....they are the accused,..... and they realize Liberal Loons like you buy gas too......and as you repeat/spread their marketing efforts...it appears to be working very well for them....

 

[TripleB]

You get that a phenomena like warming can have multiple causes at different points over earths 4.5 billion year history and that natural warming billions of years agoconcerns me less than warming which we created (and therefore can still reverse) now?

Irregardless, I’m done with the Fox News soundbites; NASA has answered them to the satisfaction of the scientific community. If you don’t want to read the info the experts posted that’s on you.

As a scientist thats a great approach stop all information that conflicts with your theory, then you can come up with a theory clear of any agenda?

Really?

 

[Grandpa mac]

Grandpa Mac the decrease in temps from Feb 2016 to Feb 2018 was NASA!

You didnt follow the links did you?

Aaron Brown looked at the official NASA global temperature data and noticed something surprising. From February 2016 to February 2018, "global average temperatures dropped by 0.56 degrees Celsius." That, he notes, is the biggest two-year drop in the past century.

"The 2016-2018 Big Chill," he writes, "was composed of two Little Chills, the biggest five month drop ever (February to June 2016) and the fourth biggest (February to June 2017). A similar event from February to June 2018 would bring global average temperatures below the 1980s average."

I followed your Google link straight to a WAPo article explaining that trend lines still fluctuate up and down. Link at #278- read it yourself because I don’t care to peck out a summary for you.

 

[wallnutz]

As a scientist thats a great approach stop all information that conflicts with your theory, then you can come up with a theory clear of any agenda?

Really?

Your past the boots, better put the waders on.

 

[Hullbilly]

Your past the boots, better put the waders on.

Mo’s hard at work

 

[Grandpa mac]

As a scientist thats a great approach stop all information that conflicts with your theory, then you can come up with a theory clear of any agenda?

Really?

No, the scientists understand that the Earth was warmer at points in the past and that data makes complete sense given Co2 levels, volcanism, the onset of photosynthesis and other natural processes. They also know this particular time is because CO2 is rising from a recent low of about 180ppm to 400+ ppm and that we are directly responsible. Real scientists have to account for all the facts (and have) rather than cherry pick facts in support of an agenda.

 

[Grandpa mac]

I’m going back to the Trump thread so hit me up there if you have more to say.

 

[Hullbilly]

Spread it around Turdpa

 

[SNiC Jet]

I’m going back to the Trump thread so hit me up there if you have more to say.

That's understandable.....but there are questions still on the table (#279) that you refuse to answer....yep.....you clearly got your ass handed to you in this one.

 

[TripleB]

I’m going back to the Trump thread so hit me up there if you have more to say.

Really? Run from the truth?

Ok carry on

 

[wallnutz]

Really? Run from the truth?

Ok carry on

Can’t say we didn’t warn you. If you want to have some real fun go on over to the Trumpeachment thread.

 

[Old Texan]

Really? Run from the truth?

Ok carry on

He's a troll. That's what trolls do.

 

[Hullbilly]

Really? Run from the truth?

Ok carry on

TB, this behavior is not isolated to climate change. Sometime when you’re bored beyond belief and are choosing between bamboo under the fingernails or mental torture. Choose mental torture and read any/all of grannymac’s #drivel

 

[spectra3279]

Here are some experts who have answered virtually every question you and the others have asked. I’m not gonna spend a whole lot more time on this pointless exercise. But if you have a question the rocket scientists haven’t answered let me know.
https://climate.nasa.gov/faq/

Really doesn't help your story that osamma shut down nasa and made them report this drivel. If they didn't he would have shut them down entirely

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