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Nordie

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Yes, it's like anywhere else, you need a pad cert. Florida is some of the strictest inspections I've ever had to deal with. It seems that the east coast you get away with a little more than the wast coast. This is all hear say, but I know what I've experienced. The inspector physically got on the roof and checked the nailing patter of the sheathing. For you carpenter types 4 on the seam and 8 in the field, after a top side inspection the inspector will crawl in the attic and check for shiners.

You should see the window installs, I had to buck every window into block, code is double ¼" tapcons @ 8" OC all the way around. We used 2 x 6's for the bucking.

The strapping to the slab and footings will carry up every stud and tie into the trusses, if it's the exterior the outside of most homes are CMU, all trusses are anchored into a tie beam via tapcons and nailed into the trusses.

Building on or near the beach you have to hold so much water underground, and it has to be directed to inlets that goto the intercoastal water way. The one place I worked on was designed to retain a minimum of 2000 gallons of water at all times.

I think the homes you see floating away are probably older homes that are not up to the new codes.
I don’t mean this in bad taste. But when homes are moved 100s of yards, does the state have to come out and re survey properties before you can rebuild?

Will there be just a large amount of property that people just walk away from?

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Lots of folks walked away from homes and land in New Orleans because it was just too much to try and recover from. My Dad worked there for over a year after Katrina, and the devastation was unreal. South Florida will be the same with a few differences. The location. More people want to retire to and live in South Florida than New Orleans. There is also the financial aspect. The people who live in and around the areas of Ft. Meyers and Sanibel are loaded. While the damage is significant, there is a "Draw" to the area, and one of the reasons why they will rebuild.
 

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In Cape Coral there is a pretty big population of German snow birds In their late 60s and 70s. Not sure what they will do.
Can not imagine the work force it will take to get things back to some what normal.
 

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Haven't seen any recent posts from C-ya. He had mentioned going to the FL west coast to help. His reports could be very informative.
 

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Haven't seen any recent posts from C-ya. He had mentioned going to the FL west coast to help. His reports could be very informative.

We want to go help as well, but right now we think it is best to let the pro's handle it for now. In a month or so there will be more opportunities to physically help.

When we went to Louisiana that last time we went to the area hit by Katrina, I believe that was the storm. It was so sad to see how the community faired a decade after the storm. 75% empty lots weeds high as can be. Trees in the middle of the street/sidewalks. 10% original builds saved from the storm. 10% rebuilt and 5% rebuild started but people just left as they realized it was not going to be the community that it once was or did not have the funds to complete. It truly saddening to see what it had become.

We saw this as well around Houston after Hurricane Harvey. We went to volunteer to help. It was a mess.

I could go on a rant about some of it, but best to just let it go. Don't want this moved to the dungeon.
 

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We made it to Tampa.

Left Rancho Sunday morning @ 7:30am and arrived in Tampa @ 9 pm Tuesday. Still don’t have power at the house so didn’t want to show up being so dark.

I’ll just say, this big loves it’s gas towing. Averages about 7.5 per gal. Good thing fuel is cheap by CA standards.

Trailer is loaded with supplies, gen power, fuel ( 60 gal picked up in Tampa) chain saw, lights, and a bunch of stuff my father wanted to bring. I didn’t ask why.

Hitting up Costco and the bank this morning and making the drive to Cape Coral. Word on the street is that utilities crews and insurance adjusters are staying in Tampa and the drive down is long. Will see.

I’ll post pictures on the way down of what we see.

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When we went to Louisiana that last time we went to the area hit by Katrina, I believe that was the storm. It was so sad to see how the community faired a decade after the storm. 75% empty lots weeds high as can be. Trees in the middle of the street/sidewalks. 10% original builds saved from the storm. 10% rebuilt and 5% rebuild started but people just left as they realized it was not going to be the community that it once was or did not have the funds to complete. It truly saddening to see what it had become.
Unfortunately this is different. That was the 9th ward and no one wanted to rebuild in the ghetto. They were displaced to Houston and made out better. It changed the demographic in both states/city’s.

With ft Myers’s beach. To much money is lost not to rebuild. IMO, it will turn in Naples and lose the ecliptic vibe but will be more swanky once rebuilt. Could be a good time to invest if you have time (as in life) as it will take years. We shall see.
 

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We made it to Tampa.

Left Rancho Sunday morning @ 7:30am and arrived in Tampa @ 9 pm Tuesday. Still don’t have power at the house so didn’t want to show up being so dark.

I’ll just say, this big loves it’s gas towing. Averages about 7.5 per gal. Good thing fuel is cheap by CA standards.

Trailer is loaded with supplies, gen power, fuel ( 60 gal picked up in Tampa) chain saw, lights, and a bunch of stuff my father wanted to bring. I didn’t ask why.

Hitting up Costco and the bank this morning and making the drive to Cape Coral. Word on the street is that utilities crews and insurance adjusters are staying in Tampa and the drive down is long. Will see.

I’ll post pictures on the way down of what we see.

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Depending on where you are in Tampa, check traffic on the 275 compared to the 75 to get you down to the Bradenton area.
 

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Depending on where you are in Tampa, check traffic on the 275 compared to the 75 to get you down to the Bradenton area.
Thanks, we are in Lutz just a tad above tampa so for us we are next to the 75 at its red. A lot of accidents heading down this morning via the map. We are heading out shortly.
 

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Thanks, we are in Lutz just a tad above tampa so for us we are next to the 75 at its red. A lot of accidents heading down this morning via the map. We are heading out shortly.
Be safe on your way down! Thank you for sharing. Good luck to you guys and I hope you're able to get things up and running.
 

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We hit a couple of stores this morning and the bank for cash.

Now sitting in this.

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Down our street. The new house way at the end flooded. The water on this street was 8-9 deep.

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This shows the water line between the houses.
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The water came up to the pool deck but not in the pool. Both neighbors have canal water in their pool

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Water came past the broken palm tree in the front yard

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If you put everything into perspective and what Florida has gone through you know that it will be rebuilt. There's other parts of the country where none of this happened.

I've had the pleasure of meeting Floridians, let's talk about resilient people. They will rebuild, and they will do it better.
 

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As 71-year-old Joe Wilson bailed his umpteenth bucket of water from his 35-foot sailboat in Matanzas Pass in Fort Myers Beach he thought, ‘What are you going to do Joe? This is survival time.’ If you don’t do nothing, you’re not going to survive in that water.’

 

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Are the beached boats getting looted or stripped? Some of them might have expensive items on board.
 

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Best to you and your family as you try to clean up. 👍
Thanks. It could have been worse, the house survived flooding due to being 9’ above sea level. If you were 8’ (older requirements) you had water inside. Many many people have it worse from being flooded out. You drive around (where you can) and there are debris piles everywhere, includes house furniture

The roof (shingles) is good just lost 70% of the ridge caps (roof was redone 4yrs ago). Couple of the front windows did leak inside due the wind and rain. Lost a palm tree and had to cut it up. Pool is about 95% cleaned of debris and being filtered, had to clean the filter 5x already, soo much roof sand/gravel from roof shingles. Still trying to clean the outside of the house. The palm tree hair is everywhere and it’s stuck on like concrete.
We are making progress. We do have internet now, still no line power. But the genny is working great.
 

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Are the beached boats getting looted or stripped? Some of them might have expensive items on board.
I don’t think so, but you never know. There was 1 house that was looted one street over the other day. Cops got there pretty quick from what the neighbors said.

But cops are everywhere. The cops next door said everyone is on 12 hr shift. 12 on/12 off. Just on Cape Coral Blvd where 100’s of cops, from Ft Lauderdale, Miami and Tampa. Blocking street and guarding business. So you can’t really drive around as the really bad hit areas are blocked off.
 

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I don’t think so, but you never know. There was 1 house that was looted one street over the other day. Cops got there pretty quick from what the neighbors said.

But cops are everywhere. The cops next door said everyone is on 12 hr shift. 12 on/12 off. Just on Cape Coral Blvd where 100’s of cops, from Ft Lauderdale, Miami and Tampa. Blocking street and guarding business. So you can’t really drive around as the really bad hit areas are blocked off.
That's great, would be horrible to add insult to injury.
 

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A pool that was flooded with canal water (neighbors) and one that wasn’t. Finally all cleaned up, just running the pump constantly to keep filtering.

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Holy crap, one of those pictures was the neighborhood we used to live in. 5036 Skyline BLVD......
 

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The wife was facetiming with her dad this morning. The water filled their garage and came to about an inch of the roof (house is on top of the garage). Both cars destroyed. They have a Sea-Doo and 4 kayaks in their yard that are not theirs. Neighbor's boats that were moored ended up in peoples yards. Street filled with trash from inside the houses. I guess a dump truck comes buy and picks up the piles. No A/C yet. He said an elderly neighbor's house filled to the roof with water and the old guy was floating on the bed up against the ceiling. The place is a complete mess...
 

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I don’t mean this in bad taste. But when homes are moved 100s of yards, does the state have to come out and re survey properties before you can rebuild?

Will there be just a large amount of property that people just walk away from?
I’m assuming those with insurance, might be ok financially, but going forward, insurance premiums are going up.

I see a lot of RV park developments in the future for Florida.
 
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