If that's how it came across, then I owe nganga an apology. I'm addressing these types of events, and what Havasu has become. Another member was advocating more and more and more money could be made, more advertising, bring more spectators ---- that is what I'm personally objecting to, it's destroying the damned place in MY opinion.
I understand that, just as mine did I was cashed my checks and watched San Diego become another LA. But I didn't go to Havasu because of monetary opportunities, I went to remove myself from that environment and enjoy the beauty the waters of Havasu once offered.
Recently you posted that how during your recent visit to the event site, you noticed destruction and were lamenting the loss of native environment you'd once coveted.
Ummm, because you're the one who's unhappy with Havasu?
I see, so alleviate the person who's unhappy rather than the cause of that unhappiness, sounds like you work for the government.Ummm, because you're the one who's unhappy with Havasu?
I see, so alleviate the person who's unhappy rather than the cause of that unhappiness, sounds like you work for the government.
Not everyone else lives to serve your interests unfortunately.
The past several years we've explored other possibilities to be sure. This includes lakes in many other states. We've boated numerous times over the years on Mead, Mohave, been years ago, but Powell as well. Before we bought in Havasu, it was the eastern pacific in our sportsfisher and vacations in various Catalina Island nooks and crannies. Seriously considered heading back to the ocean, but COVID has driven the ocean cruiser market even for old junkers through the roof of any sanity and beyond.
At least I can now better emphasize with the native Americans.When the unhappy person is irrational and in the minority, yes.
Why don't you ask the Native Americans if they like the changes in "Lake Havasu" in the last 100 years??
Why don't you go up and tell John Dutton, he's in the minority and to get to the train station.
I get where you're coming from. I think everyone on this thread gets where you're coming from frankly, even if your delivery was a bit off so to speak LOLThe past several years we've explored other possibilities to be sure. This includes lakes in many other states. We've boated numerous times over the years on Mead, Mohave, been years ago, but Powell as well. Before we bought in Havasu, it was the eastern pacific in our sportsfisher and vacations in various Catalina Island nooks and crannies. Seriously considered heading back to the ocean, but COVID has driven the ocean cruiser market even for old junkers through the roof of any sanity and beyond.
We spent many years developing this retirement dream plan, with Havasu being the central axis, including local investments, garage condos and our mountain ranch property.
Two things that time has taught us. You can't always judge the future of a place by it's present and you can't completely envision life in your 70's, when you're in your late 40's or early 50's.
I can't change either what Havasu has become and continues to evolve into, and I can't buy back the years of my youth either.
As they say, "Shit Happens"
) but I also miss the way it was when I first started going to Havasu in the 90's, when I was told on several occasions to "take my big ocean boat back to the ocean!" It was a 24' Baja outlaw 
When I was younger I HATED going to havasu in the winter. It almost depressed me. Now, I love coming out and spending time with family out there during the less crazy time. As time moves on, I find myself enjoying the slower pace of off weekends or even weekday boating. I have to say, all of last year on Havasu pretty much sucked! As AJ put it, "every weekend is as crowded as a holiday weekend and every weekday is as crowded as a regular weekend." Hopefully things will chill out a bit this season. I think it will.
I'll be in Miami at the boat show
Well, that wont suck. We'll be back out in March and for spring break.
well as far as the native americans, they are owning casino's and buying big boats. They have nothing to be mad about. and some of them still hate the white man. Its called evolution.When the unhappy person is irrational and in the minority, yes.
Why don't you ask the Native Americans if they like the changes in "Lake Havasu" in the last 100 years??
I get where you're coming from. I think everyone on this thread gets where you're coming from frankly, even if your delivery was a bit off so to speak LOL
Everywhere I spent time growing up has gotten busier and more crowded and has changed that usually leaves me longing for "the good old days" of the way it was. Whether it's Malibu, Pismo, Hawaii, Havasu, south florida, Idaho, Catalina or the city I live in now, everything seems to busier and busier. I enjoy Havasu still, but I don't live there. I enjoy seeing all the crazy big stuff out running and I enjoy the crowds (sometimes, from a distance
I thought everybody on here was supposed to have their big boy pants on and yet it seems I'm always offending some tender young thing. Guess it's because I worked construction and not some marketing job where it's all about impressions.
At least I can now better emphasize with the native Americans.
Hope you remember this conversation in 20 or 30 years when "Know it all" children such as yourself are explaining to you how things are.
The one thing I've gained from RDP, is a level of admiration for my own children I never imagined possible.
I won't argue with you on this much. I see your point. I should have been, but I had a permit and the permission of the BLM to rape the land.
Paw. . Is that you??Let's fuck Havasu up even more than it has beenI know, what it needs is lots more people and 40' boats running around at 140 mph, because it's always all about the $$$$ and giving the wealthy a place to display their awesomeness.
Ho Hum, " Oh look it's yet another DCB or if the God's are shining an all mighty Skater "
I think they're amazing, and the first few I saw gave me giant wood, but they were in the Ocean and were about to race. Seeing them on Havasu or lined up on a street, is like viewing a lion in a cage, you've seen one, you've seen them all.
Just like the new CC fad, who gives a shit, a big fishing boat with a half dozen outboards lined up across the transom, oh whoop !!!
You know, there's a whole lot of us, who enjoyed how GREAT HAVASU WAS ------- "WAS" being the key word here, before all these mega sized ocean boats and all this hoopla and bullshit they bring, before all these crowds and spectators, because that's when Havasu was truly great.
In fact, if all these were to go away, and we could get back to the Havasu that was great, the one where you could boat all day in a 18' boat, the one where you didn't have to share the roads with a thousand Side By Sides and Bro-Dozers galore, I might have actually been able to live there as was the plan when I bought 26 years ago. As it is now, we have to plan around these events you so covet, just to avoid all the bullshit they bring to an otherwise nice town and lake.
" Make Havasu Great Again " --- Never, it won't happen, that ship has sailed, and you apparently missed even knowing how great it WAS.
BOOM!!
Oh sure on holiday weekends, but you could venture from end to end on Havasu mid-week and count the number of boats on one hand. You could go up river and count none some afternoons. You could drive all around the town in the mid 90's and not find anything resembling the congestion one encounters today.
Only if they're Skaters
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Here's where Pokerrun388 would shine.
No, I believe it's the daily stress of reading about it here on RDP that's finally taking it's toll.I think the stress of living in Southern California is getting to you.
Some of us remember that.
Among many other options.
I image the rest of us would have been like him, had we not discovered girls
--- they fuck everything up. 
