Stoker vs Schiada

[Gelcoater]

They sound like really nice boats, as long as your Al Stoker. Sounds like any of us mortals wouldn't wouldn't be able to compensate for the ill handling issues and drive one properly. Makes me really wish I owned one. [emoji106]

"you're"
:cool

 

[Uncle Dave]

First off...this discussion is ABOUT Stoker boats! You and RD (and uncle dave) have the exact same reading comprehension skills. Non existent!


Nice backpedal though. Carry on. :thumbup::thumbup:

...half of its about Stokers, the other half Schiadas.



UD

 

[Outdrive1]

They sound like HTM's. Lol

Second scariest boat I've ever driven. Lol.

 

[Outdrive1]

"you're"
:cool

Fuck.

 

[rivermobster]

I comprehend what you are typing, but where In this thread does Al and his driving abilities and/or lap times come up?

You claimed that nobody could drive a Stoker "properly" without being taught. I said you were wrong.... And you are.

I think Bill brought it up awhile back. The whole "discussion" started because of someone saying they couldn't the boat to go over 70mph, and it went from there! lol

And it's ok that you Think I'm wrong, but I have hundreds of hours driving Stokers hulls. And Al is still faster than me.

Properly = getting everything out of a boat, car, truck, mountian bike, that it can give you.

Thats my personal definition. Yours may vary.

 

[rivermobster]

...half of its about Stokers, the other half Schiadas.



UD

I stand corrected. :thumbup:

 

[rivermobster]

Fuck.

Best post in this thread...

 

[460]

Didn't some guy call out Dave's driving skill not to long ago Rivermobster?

 

[Hammer]

I think Bill brought it up awhile back. The whole "discussion" started because of someone saying they couldn't the boat to go over 70mph, and it went from there! lol

And it's ok that you Think I'm wrong, but I have hundreds of hours driving Stokers hulls. And Al is still faster than me.

Properly = getting everything out of a boat, car, truck, mountian bike, that it can give you.

Thats my personal definition. Yours may vary.

I hope Al Stoker is faster than you, after all he designed and raced the damn thing since it's inception.

 

[rivermobster]

Didn't some guy call out Dave's driving skill not to long ago Rivermobster?

I recall something about his water skiing skilz, but not his driving skilz.

I hope Al Stoker is faster than you, after all he designed and raced the damn thing since it's inception.

So you agree you'll never be as fast as him, without being taught? Good man. [emoji106]


Where the fuck is bildo, I'm bored! LoL

 

[paradise]

I recall something about his water skiing skilz, but not his driving skilz.

So you agree you'll never be as fast as him, without being taught? Good man. [emoji106]


Where the fuck is bildo, I'm bored! LoL

Have you been taught to drive a Stoker properly? Apparently not since Al is still faster than you, right?

Sounds to me like he is the only one who can drive one properly (using your definition of properly).

Like was posted earlier, sign me up lol

 

[SFV2RVR]

Is this whole comparison between a Stoker and a 21RT? Because if it's not, it's like comparing a Bugatti to a fucking Hyundai!

 

[RiverDave]

Didn't some guy call out Dave's driving skill not to long ago Rivermobster?

When did that happen? I missed it. Lol.

 

[Sbarry]

Is this whole comparison between a Stoker and a 21RT? Because if it's not, it's like comparing a Bugatti to a fucking Hyundai!

Let's not go that far... Ferrari at best! Lol

 

[SFV2RVR]

Let's not go that far... Ferrari at best! Lol

And we're not talking Magnum P.I's Ferrari either! Lol

 

[Sharp Shooter]

BUMP!

Didn't some guy call out Dave's driving skill not to long ago Rivermobster?

I've said Dave couldn't drive a K boat and I still stand behind it. :cool

If you listen to the boat, anybody can learn how to drive anything.

RD

What if the boat isn't set up right....?

I spent many years traveling various racing circuits (videographer) and I've seen many drivers fail at driving (crashing again and again) inspite of plenty of "listening" and practice.

With some boats, you need both skill and balls to make it work and some people just don't have the balls. It's not much different than riding a dirtbike in that regard.

 

[RiverDave]

BUMP!



I've said Dave couldn't drive a K boat and I still stand behind it. :cool




What if the boat isn't set up right....?

I spent many years traveling various racing circuits (videographer) and I've seen many drivers fail at driving (crashing again and again) inspite of plenty of "listening" and practice.

With some boats, you need both skill and balls to make it work and some people just don't have the balls. It's not much different than riding a dirtbike in that regard.

Jerry I don't think you can drive a K boat, and I stand behind it as well. I'd bet I can drive one as well as you can and I'd actually bet on it!

Same Boat, Same course, I'd wager I'll lay down a better lap time then you inside of 2 times driving the boat.. AND YOU OWN ONE.. Well kinda one, that's for show, that's detuned, with a burnout prop, but it's really super fast, and your friends are protecting you from killing your no skills ass kinda boat.

(BOOM # 2 IN THIS THREAD)

RD

 

[djunkie]

LOL!!!!

 

[Sharp Shooter]

Jerry I don't think you can drive a K boat, and I stand behind it as well. I'd bet I can drive one as well as you can and I'd actually bet on it!

Same Boat, Same course, I'd wager I'll lay down a better lap time then you inside of 2 times driving the boat.. AND YOU OWN ONE.. Well kinda one, that's for show, that's detuned, with a burnout prop, but it's really super fast, and your friends are protecting you from killing your no skills ass kinda boat.

(BOOM # 2 IN THIS THREAD)

RD

I'll take that bet Dave. How's a grand sound? Only issue is you'll have to borrow someone else's boat cause I sure as hell ain't letting you drive mine. Lol

Name the time and place.

Boom!

 

[RiverDave]

I'll take that bet Dave. How's a grand sound? Only issue is you'll have to borrow someone else's boat cause I sure as hell ain't letting you drive mine. Lol

Name the time and place.

Boom!

And you'll have to borrow the grand, because i ain't racing you on credit..

PS someone already offered me to drive theirs.. Not sure they'd let you drive it though.. It's a REAL K BOAT.

BOOM!!

RD

 

[Sharp Shooter]

And you'll have to borrow the grand, because i ain't racing you on credit..

PS someone already offered me to drive theirs.. Not sure they'd let you drive it though.. It's a REAL K BOAT.

BOOM!!

RD

You borrow any k you can, I'm good driving mine. How's Lake Elsinore on Jan 1st sound?

 

[RiverDave]

You borrow any k you can, I'm good driving mine. How's Lake Elsinore on Jan 1st sound?

Jan 1st sounds like a Hangover to me. Let me get a hold of Mr. Steele again from the last time we were gonna do this, and I'll get back to ya on a date. On general principal though if we put it together it isn't gonna be at that swamp.

River or Bust, and I say mid week middle of summer. It'll give you plenty of time to put some rogane on your balls.. Ya might just grow a hair.

PS By "mine" you are qualifying your boat as a "K Boat" which I'd give it damn near even odds on a short course I could beat ya with my small block so lets not get carried away. Any kinda forced induction cruiser we both know I got your balls in a vice before we begin. Your best bet is flat vs flat... but it certainly isn't overall lap "speed" or "time."

RD

 

[Sharp Shooter]

Jan 1st sounds like a Hangover to me. Let me get a hold of Mr. Steele again from the last time we were gonna do this, and I'll get back to ya on a date. On general principal though if we put it together it isn't gonna be at that swamp.

River or Bust, and I say mid week middle of summer. It'll give you plenty of time to put some rogane on your balls.. Ya might just grow a hair.

PS By "mine" you are qualifying your boat as a "K Boat" which I'd give it damn near even odds on a short course I could beat ya with my small block so lets not get carried away. Any kinda forced induction cruiser we both know I got your balls in a vice before we begin. Your best bet is flat vs flat... but it certainly isn't overall lap "speed" or "time."

RD

I don't need to hide out til summer Dave nor will I ever use a hangover as a weak ass excuse. There's a hot boat get together at Elsinore on the 1st and Elsinore is as good a place as any. Standard circle boat 2 pin course which is 1/2 mile long straightaway and single pin buoys. If you want to do a bigger course that's ok too.

Let's get it on. :cool

 

[RiverDave]

I don't need to hide out til summer Dave nor will I ever use a hangover as a weak ass excuse. There's a hot boat get together at Elsinore on the 1st and Elsinore is as good a place as any. Standard circle boat 2 pin course which is 1/2 mile long straightaway and single pin buoys. If you want to do a bigger course that's ok too.

Let's get it on. :cool

Jerry I know you have no life so it will be hard for you to understand.. But try.. It is New Years night, the people that have friends will be up all night partying with friends and making resolutions they have no intentions to keep. It is tradition, which is far more important then whipping the great pretenders ass in a v drive. Patience grasshopper I will catch you in my hand when the time is right.

 

[Sharp Shooter]

Jerry I know you have no life so it will be hard for you to understand.. But try.. It is New Years night, the people that have friends will be up all night partying with friends and making resolutions they have no intentions to keep. It is tradition, which is far more important then whipping the great pretenders ass in a v drive. Patience grasshopper I will catch you in my hand when the time is right.

Sorry Dave, I'm just anxious to take your money. How about mid week in Needles end of feb...? Is 2 months long enough for you to sober up? Lol

Boom!

 

[spotondl]

This here grudge match is sizing up for some REAL production value...

 

[aka619er]

You borrow any k you can, I'm good driving mine. How's Lake Elsinore on Jan 1st sound?

Two call out racing challanges in one thread!

I don't know if I can handle this kinda action.

 

[hallett21]

Two call out racing challanges in one thread!

I don't know if I can handle this kinda action.

The RD SS call out is like two years in the making lol. They already missed their first "race" date

 

[460]

No way Dave gets behind the wheel of a kboat and drives it how it's intended. No way Dave lays down better lap times then Jerry. I'll bet a hundred on it

I see this playing out like the water ski bet. Dave has been called out one on one and he don't like that. Some how this will all go away and this time next year we will be talking about it again.

 

[RogerThat99]

At the risk of Threadjacking (back to the original topic), I think my Siggy courtesy of Riverbound says all you need to know about Stoker vs Schiada

On to the Grudge Match...

Needles in late feb would be great (Like Thursday Afternoon). We can make some sort of Winner & Loser shirts for them to wear around Needles on Saturday.

 

[JBS]

No way Dave gets behind the wheel of a kboat and drives it how it's intended. No way Dave lays down better lap times then Jerry. I'll bet a hundred on it

I see this playing out like the water ski bet. Dave has been called out one on one and he don't like that. Some how this will all go away and this time next year we will be talking about it again.

Sounds like you are wanting in on this cock off.

Maybe put you're jet bote up against Dave's small block

 

[460]

Sounds like you are wanting in on this cock off.

Maybe put you're jet note up agonist Dave's small block

That's silly. You don't see me running around talking like my jetboat is the best thing since sliced bread. Dave always says he can do everything, but he never does it. I'm just trying to find a poor soul that wants in on the bet so I can take their money.

 

[Riverbound]

No way Dave gets behind the wheel of a kboat and drives it how it's intended. No way Dave lays down better lap times then Jerry. I'll bet a hundred on it

I see this playing out like the water ski bet. Dave has been called out one on one and he don't like that. Some how this will all go away and this time next year we will be talking about it again.

Kinda like one of the " bugatis" taking on my "Hyundai". This debate has gone on for years yet no one wanted to take it on. Now that the Hyundai is getting a little tuning there's maybe A handful of the Bugatti's that can even keep up with it and that's with the double the horsepower of my little 509.

I will keep the lifeline under the deck for when I go see horse hunting though

 

[Riverbound]

***Now let me add this before I start getting hate mail and rude looks when I'm at the river.***

I don't hate Schiadas, I have even owned one and had we stayed one day longer in Parker over thanksgiving I would own one now.


(Have to add this notice every couple pages, so the sensitive Sally's don't get their girdles in a bunch)

 

[Sharp Shooter]

The RD SS call out is like two years in the making lol. They already missed their first "race" date

They...?

One of us was there. Jus sayin...

 

[TexasJet]

34 pages???? Really????? 34 freakin' pages!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :yikes

 

[RiverDave]

No way Dave gets behind the wheel of a kboat and drives it how it's intended. No way Dave lays down better lap times then Jerry. I'll bet a hundred on it

I see this playing out like the water ski bet. Dave has been called out one on one and he don't like that. Some how this will all go away and this time next year we will be talking about it again.

2 things Tyro..

Have you ever seen Jerry drive his k boat?

Weren't you supposed to ski?

 

[Cole Trickle]

2 things Tyro..

Have you ever seen Jerry drive his k boat?

Weren't you supposed to ski?

Forget the whole ski deal....

You and tyro should have a baby making contest...lol

 

[hallett21]

They...?

One of us was there. Jus sayin...

I apologize. I was just commenting that it hadn't happened.

 

[plaster dave]

No way Dave gets behind the wheel of a kboat and drives it how it's intended. No way Dave lays down better lap times then Jerry. I'll bet a hundred on it

I see this playing out like the water ski bet. Dave has been called out one on one and he don't like that. Some how this will all go away and this time next year we will be talking about it again.

I need to know some details before I place my bet on the driver.
Is this race on the streets in needles or on the water??? Lol

 

[SFV2RVR]

Kinda like one of the " bugatis" taking on my "Hyundai". This debate has gone on for years yet no one wanted to take it on. Now that the Hyundai is getting a little tuning there's maybe A handful of the Bugatti's that can even keep up with it and that's with the double the horsepower of my little 509.

I will keep the lifeline under the deck for when I go see horse hunting though

Your still comparing apples to oranges though. Your tunnel hull or Mod V or whatever the fuck they're called against a V bottom boat that everyone in there mother knows isn't the fastest hull design. Schiada sacrificed the fastest cruiser bottom for a better ride through the rough stuff. Anybody who know anything about boats know V drives aren't efficient like outdrives with less power.

 

[Riverbound]

Your still comparing apples to oranges though. Your tunnel hull or Mod V or whatever the fuck they're called against a V bottom boat that everyone in there mother knows isn't the fastest hull design. Schiada sacrificed the fastest cruiser bottom for a better ride through the rough stuff. Anybody who know anything about boats know V drives are efficient like outdrives with less power.

Don't start acting rationally in this thread or it will die. we had a good thing going with all the egos and emotions running rampant. RD the k boat driver, getting guys to run CSR in their RC, hate mail, and even some good ole fashioned grudge races.

 

[SFV2RVR]

Don't start acting rationally in this thread or it will die. we had a good thing going with all the egos and emotions running rampant. RD the k boat driver, getting guys to run CSR in their RC, hate mail, and even some good ole fashioned grudge races.

Sorry about that. Carry on! [emoji6]

 

[Sharp Shooter]

2 things Tyro..

Have you ever seen Jerry drive his k boat?

Weren't you supposed to ski?

I'll tow him. :thumbup:

1st video is me 2nd video is RD. Place your bets folks.

[video=vimeo;97555792]https://vimeo.com/97555792[/video]

[video=youtube;EVvJBA1SGCk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVvJBA1SGCk[/video]

 

[Enen]

I'll tow him. :thumbup:

1st video is me 2nd video is RD. Place your bets folks.

[video=vimeo;97555792]https://vimeo.com/97555792[/video]

[video=youtube;EVvJBA1SGCk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVvJBA1SGCk[/video]

Thing about that second video, Ol' RD is carrying another 80 to 90 lbs on him now a days. All else being equal, that will give him a handicap.

 

[RiverDave]

That's silly. You don't see me running around talking like my jetboat is the best thing since sliced bread. Dave always says he can do everything, but he never does it. I'm just trying to find a poor soul that wants in on the bet so I can take their money.

Which things are you talking about Tyro?
Like start a little personal website and have it turn out to be the largest west coast boating board?
Like put on the Parker Enduro?
Like actually make a living at this online stuff and know nothing about computers?

I can go on? I've done everything I said I would do big guy.. Except get around to water skiing last year.

***Now let me add this before I start getting hate mail and rude looks when I'm at the river.***

I don't hate Schiadas, I have even owned one and had we stayed one day longer in Parker over thanksgiving I would own one now.


(Have to add this notice every couple pages, so the sensitive Sally's don't get their girdles in a bunch)

Don't let him lie to you.. He closetly loathes Schiada's, because he's in love with them.

They...?

One of us was there. Jus sayin...

Behind the Camera as always.. :rolleyes Maybe you will let someone else that actually knows what they are doing drive your boat again?

Forget the whole ski deal....

You and tyro should have a baby making contest...lol

He's got catching up to do.

Don't start acting rationally in this thread or it will die. we had a good thing going with all the egos and emotions running rampant. RD the k boat driver, getting guys to run CSR in their RC, hate mail, and even some good ole fashioned grudge races.

x 2

I'll tow him. :thumbup:

1st video is me 2nd video is RD. Place your bets folks.

[video=vimeo;97555792]https://vimeo.com/97555792[/video]

[video=youtube;EVvJBA1SGCk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVvJBA1SGCk[/video]

You always cap on my little 10'er.. Fact is I built that boat Jerry. You build yours? And I drove that boat Jerry.. Have you ever actually "driven" yours?

I was on the hill at Needles watching when you were running. Some guy standing next to me laughed and said "Man that thing is like a Jetboat.. Makes a lot of noise and doesn't go anywhere?" I had to explain to him that it's not the boat. Your buddies are short gearing, burn out propping, rev limiter pill installing, ego protecting, life saving good guys. :thumbup:

RD

 

[rivrrts429]

Which things are you talking about Tyro?
Like start a little personal website and have it turn out to be the largest west coast boating board?
Like put on the Parker Enduro?
Like actually make a living at this online stuff and know nothing about computers?

I can go on? I've done everything I said I would do big guy.. Except get around to water skiing last year.



Don't let him lie to you.. He closetly loathes Schiada's, because he's in love with them.



Behind the Camera as always.. :rolleyes Maybe you will let someone else that actually knows what they are doing drive your boat again?



He's got catching up to do.



x 2



You always cap on my little 10'er.. Fact is I built that boat Jerry. You build yours? And I drove that boat Jerry.. Have you ever actually "driven" yours?

I was on the hill at Needles watching when you were running. Some guy standing next to me laughed and said "Man that thing is like a Jetboat.. Makes a lot of noise and doesn't go anywhere?" I had to explain to him that it's not the boat. Your buddies are short gearing, burn out propping, rev limiter pill installing, ego protecting, life saving good guys. :thumbup:

RD

FORE!

 

[Tpltrbl303]

And we're not talking Magnum P.I's Ferrari either! Lol

Watch it, I have one of those Ferrari's

 

[Sharp Shooter]

You always cap on my little 10'er.. Fact is I built that boat Jerry. You build yours? And I drove that boat Jerry.. Have you ever actually "driven" yours?

I was on the hill at Needles watching when you were running. Some guy standing next to me laughed and said "Man that thing is like a Jetboat.. Makes a lot of noise and doesn't go anywhere?" I had to explain to him that it's not the boat. Your buddies are short gearing, burn out propping, rev limiter pill installing, ego protecting, life saving good guys. :thumbup:

RD

Exactly, you were on the hill watching while I was out running. lol

The above Honcho Vid is the most recent video I have of me driving. Wayne shot the vid with his phone while standing up in his Woody Meister flat. Your brother Carl was also watching from the shore.

When you watched me at Needles I had bad plugs and the boat wouldn't rev. Probably still enough to handle you though. lol

Your Irvine lake video is the only bona fide RiverDave driving resume that I know of. That's why I use it. The boat shows your fine ability to make something nice, but it also shows you're afrad to build something with some power like the hydro you say you want to build. Why didn't you build a hydro instead of Bubbles....? Anyway, I'm not claiming to be a hot shot driver, but Tyro is right, you haven't done ANYTHING but talk.

Post up a better vid of yourself, if you have one.:thumbup:

 

[Uncle Dave]

Your still comparing apples to oranges though. Your tunnel hull or Mod V or whatever the fuck they're called against a V bottom boat that everyone in there mother knows isn't the fastest hull design. Schiada sacrificed the fastest cruiser bottom for a better ride through the rough stuff. Anybody who know anything about boats know V drives aren't efficient like outdrives with less power.

One of the large publishers (I think hot boat) published an excellent test with 2 otherwise identical boats.

I think they were coles maybe hallets - one V drive, one I/O.

Both rigs had identical turbo big blocks.

The indicator of required HP per MPH reference was the boost gauge.

The net net of the comparison was that under 100MPH it took significantly more boost to run the Vdrive @ 90

- but above 100 the tables turned on the I/O and the V drive required less HP.


If anyone could dig that up Id love to re-read it.

UD