Speed UTV take 3

[NIKAL]

We are just trying to keep this thread alive, since it kinna looks like Speed is dead!



Did you work on your brakes yet? Did you have any successes?

Brakes on what? Speed? I don’t have a Speed UTV.

 

[evantwheeler]

The longer the wait the better. There is currently some major redesigns and testing happening now that will greatly improve the reliability of some of the main components that are failing. It will be interesting if they offer retrofit on the cars that have already been delivered or becomes available as aftermarket to those cars.

How can you post the above, and then post this:

You definitely have better info than me. I hope they are successful.

So you didn't have any actual "info" as basis to make your statement in the first post?

 

[MonkeyButt70]

How can you post the above, and then post this:


So you didn't have any actual "info" as basis to make your statement in the first post?

Im not confirming nor denying it. Im leaving it alone and walking away. Im an idiot for even mentioning it. This is not my circus

 

[BHC Vic]

Im not confirming nor denying it. Im leaving it alone and walking away. Im an idiot for even mentioning it. This is not my circus

I remember where your info would come from but I completely agree I would walk away from that one too

 

[sandshark1]

What does this have to do with Speed UTV? Did you mean to post in another thread?

Nothing at all. Now back to all things Speed. Did you see how the new Pro has ducting that brings airflow into the cab? Might be something to look into for your Speed UTV so you can run a windshield and not worry about the engine running hot.

I agree with you the airflow issue for the CVT needs to be addressed properly.

 

[Bpracing1127]

Seems like they are getting cheaper on the market too. The #2500 guys are upside down right now

Anymore news on dealer network?

 

[Romans9]

To believe much of this “Speed” you need to suspend reason and logic and just trust RG that he is your friend.




The ship back to Mars or Vietnam or Chinastan or wherever is beyond belief for me having had to deal with international shipping.
Hopefully, again (whats it now like 5 years?) its all getting sorted out and big things are about to break loose.

 

[rivrrts429]

To believe much of this “Speed” you need to suspend reason and logic and just trust RG that he is your friend.




The ship back to Mars or Vietnam or Chinastan or wherever is beyond belief for me having had to deal with international shipping.
Hopefully, again (whats it now like 5 years?) its all getting sorted out and big things are about to break loose.

Which car number do you have on order?

 

[shockwave714]

Nothing at all. Now back to all things Speed. Did you see how the new Pro has ducting that brings airflow into the cab? Might be something to look into for your Speed UTV so you can run a windshield and not worry about the engine running hot.

I agree with you the airflow issue for the CVT needs to be addressed properly.

Where are you seeing the ducting for the pro R I would be interested in something like this. My 17 turbo is so hot inside.

 

[Bpracing1127]

Where are you seeing the ducting for the pro R I would be interested in something like this. My 17 turbo is so hot inside.

Brand new 2025 pro R check them out

Lots of cool features like inner door panels
Heated/cooled seats
Factory chase lights
Belt temp sensor
New seats,
Color matched
New dynamix gps
Lots more

 

[DRYHEAT]

Is it really an off-road car if it has heated and cooled seats? FFS ya’ bunch of little girls.

 

[shockwave714]

Brand new 2025 pro R check them out

Lots of cool features like inner door panels
Heated/cooled seats
Factory chase lights
Belt temp sensor
New seats,
Color matched
New dynamix gps
Lots more

Thanks

 

[sandshark1]

Where are you seeing the ducting for the pro R I would be interested in something like this. My 17 turbo is so hot inside.

It has vents in the hood connected to ducting that directs the air into the cab though some adjustable vents. Trick idea that the Speed guys could try to mimic to get airflow in the cab when they use the windshield.

look under refined interior and the cab cooling

2025 Polaris RZR Pro R SxS

Unleash a force of nature with the 2025 2-seat RZR Pro R and 4-seat RZR Pro R 4 side-by-side, our most powerful RZR with race-proven durability.

www.polaris.com

 

[shockwave714]

It has vents in the hood connected to ducting that directs the air into the cab though some adjustable vents. Trick idea that the Speed guys could try to mimic to get airflow in the cab when they use the windshield.

look under refined interior and the cab cooling

2025 Polaris RZR Pro R SxS

Unleash a force of nature with the 2025 2-seat RZR Pro R and 4-seat RZR Pro R 4 side-by-side, our most powerful RZR with race-proven durability.

www.polaris.com

Very cool
Thanks

 

[Romans9]

Which car number do you have on order?

Thankfully I was warned in 2020 that there was no way Speed was going to be able to deliver in the time frame they were promising.

Which number car do you have on order?

 

[RiverDave]

Seats are interesting

They also added some ducting into the cab to improve airflow.

That looks like just a fan not an actual ball chiller like my truck..

 

[rivrrts429]

Thankfully I was warned in 2020 that there was no way Speed was going to be able to deliver in the time frame they were promising.

Which number car do you have on order?

I don’t have one on order. Just reading your posts I thought you were invested in the organization to some degree but, apparently you’re not.

Wasn’t a swipe at you. Just figured you had skin the game. My apologies.

 

[rivermobster]

Correct. The stock master cylinder has to be wrong as there is no way the same master bore is going to work better pushing 24 caliper pistons yet struggle with 8 pistons. Then the peddle motion ratio makes for a longer throw. But three other things besides the master that could be done and greatly improve the braking. 1) a good Simi matalic/ceramic brake pad. The stock pads are just an organic material that gets heat fade really quickly. 2) change out the steel braided brake line that goes from the master all the way to the rear of the chassis, to a solid hard line. The whole car is steel braided brake lines. Also do the same to the front line from the master to where it T’s off to each front wheel. Also need to find out if the braided lines are teflon lined? If not that needs to be done. 3) add a 2 lbs residual valve to the main rear brake line before the T junction going to both rear wheels. Super easy & cheap to do. Maybe even play with adding a 2 lbs to the front to help hold some pressure on the lines. This would firm up the peddle and all of this would cost a small fraction of the Wilwood braking kit.

I might have a Speed master cylinder to check out in a few weeks. Once we know the bore size the rest will be easy to figure out.

So don't have a Speed car???

Boy you Sure made it sound like you did!!!

 

[Romans9]

I don’t have one on order. Just reading your posts I thought you were invested in the organization to some degree but, apparently you’re not.

Wasn’t a swipe at you. Just figured you had skin the game. My apologies.

My family grew up in the sand cars, Glamis and Little Sahara.

Once my son was married he couldn’t afford the sand cars for himself so he wanted to get SxS’s.

He asked me about the Speed stuff around the time RG announced they would be producing and my son asked me what I thought about the possibilities of getting Speed cars. I told him in no uncertain terms that a car designed by RG would be a total game changer because it would be spear headed by a true off-roader rather that a corporate board making compromises and not having an understanding as to what people really want and need.
I really propped RG and Speed up in my son’s eyes and my son remembered the times we saw RG at Glamis.

We were both going to order cars and I talked to my good friend from Phoenix that is active in the off road world. He warned me that his contacts all said that they wished RG well but there was no way he was going to be able to deliver.

My son followed all of the Speed announcements, live shows, all the posted info and relayed it back to me. I know exactly what RG was saying explicitly and implying. My son knew when RG sold a boat and
some other personal stuff to supposedly build a shop to produce the suspension parts blah blah blah……

Thankfully I took the warning to heart, advised my son and he bought an X3. I bought two X3. We had a blast with them (after the required upgrades for hard driving). My sons family has now grown by one child and he sold the two seat car and is waiting to buy a four seat.

If we had ordered Speed cars like we intended we would have missed all the great times (about 6,000 miles) we have had.

We live 1200 miles away from the off road epicenter so getting information is critical.

Speeds information was less than stellar and seems to be unchanged.

There is nothing I would have like more than to see RG build a badass car dependable and able to make great memories with but it looks like many of the buyers have had the opposite of that experience.

Most of our trips occur a long way from home. Having unreliable equipment would make a blessed family time into a disappointing and chaotic event.
I experienced enough through the Justin Smith/Revenge debacle…..

 

[NIKAL]

So don't have a Speed car???

Boy you Sure made it sound like you did!!!

Nope, I’ve never implied I have one in my possession. Do I have one on order? Yes.
I do have other desert toys in the garage.

 

[rivermobster]

Nope, I’ve never implied I have one in my possession. Do I have one on order? Yes.
I do have other desert toys in the garage.

So when you said you'd have a Speed master cylinder in your hands in a few weeks, silly me, I just Assumed it would be yours??

My bad!

Good luck with Whatever you have going on over there.

 

[NIKAL]

So when you said you'd have a Speed master cylinder in your hands in a few weeks, silly me, I just Assumed it would be yours??

My bad!

Good luck with Whatever you have going on over there.

So when you said you'd have a Speed master cylinder in your hands in a few weeks, silly me, I just Assumed it would be yours??

My bad!

Good luck with Whatever you have going on over there.

Not sure who talked about having a Master Cylinder in their hands in a few weeks? I don’t believe that was me? I have spoke about brakes in the past, and I have my thoughts & opinions from previous experiences. Even discussed residual valves in the brake lines. But I don’t remember saying I’d have a master in my possession? I would like to pull one apart to measure the bores, as I think there is improvement to be made there.

 

[Done-it-again]

That looks like just a fan not an actual ball chiller like my truck..

Agree. How did fan become a cooled seat.

 

[rivermobster]

Not sure who talked about having a Master Cylinder in their hands in a few weeks? I don’t believe that was me? I have spoke about brakes in the past, and I have my thoughts & opinions from previous experiences. Even discussed residual valves in the brake lines. But I don’t remember saying I’d have a master in my possession? I would like to pull one apart to measure the bores, as I think there is improvement to be made there.

I might have a Speed master cylinder to check out in a few weeks. Once we know the bore size the rest will be easy to figure out.

Your words buddy. Not mine.

 

[NIKAL]

Your words buddy. Not mine.

Your right! I forgot. Thats was back in May. Allot has gone on with me between then & now, and Hollander was looking into the brakes, so I have not gone much farther. In all honestly I was also working on some clutch cooling & ducting, but lost interest and have chose to not invest any of my money into the project. Maybe when my car arrives, and if I choose to get it, I’ll be more interested in digging in again.

 

[Romans9]

Your right! I forgot. Thats was back in May. Allot has gone on with me between then & now, and Hollander was looking into the brakes, so I have not gone much farther. In all honestly I was also working on some clutch cooling & ducting, but lost interest and have chose to not invest any of my money into the project. Maybe when my car arrives, and if I choose to get it, I’ll be more interested in digging in again.

Your replies are some of the best and most informative as to the Speed itself in this thread.

I really do hope they can find some way to make this work out but it sure as hell has hurt them with the boondoggle and mismanagement and piss poor customer relations.

At least this thread hasn’t been deleted……..

 

[Boatymcboatface]

Where are you seeing the ducting for the pro R I would be interested in something like this. My 17 turbo is so hot inside.

$60 and your cab can have vents too.

Polaris RZR Cooler Air Vent - Cab Cooling Kit by RPM Powersports

The strategically placed vents draw in fresh air while expelling hot, stale air, creating a refreshing environment even in the most extreme conditions.

www.everythingpolarisrzr.com

 

[shockwave714]

$60 and your cab can have vents too.

Polaris RZR Cooler Air Vent - Cab Cooling Kit by RPM Powersports

The strategically placed vents draw in fresh air while expelling hot, stale air, creating a refreshing environment even in the most extreme conditions.

www.everythingpolarisrzr.com

I just purchased these, but I’m having second thoughts.
The vent goes behind the front tires on the firewall. I think it will pick up a lot of dust.

 

[riverroyal]

I just purchased these, but I’m having second thoughts.
The vent goes behind the front tires on the firewall. I think it will pick up a lot of dust.

Put a dampner on them. I did this long time ago on tyrex. Open when your in the lead, never got wheel dust inside.
Run it.
On street it will also be good

 

[Boatymcboatface]

I just purchased these, but I’m having second thoughts.
The vent goes behind the front tires on the firewall. I think it will pick up a lot of dust.

I’m hoping someone I know tries them before I do!

 

[RiverDave]

Has anyone done the radiator lift kit yet? I’m hoping to do that and a few other mods before our San Felipe trip

 

[NIKAL]

Your replies are some of the best and most informative as to the Speed itself in this thread.

I really do hope they can find some way to make this work out but it sure as hell has hurt them with the boondoggle and mismanagement and piss poor customer relations.

At least this thread hasn’t been deleted……..

Thank you. I’ve always been a technical & fact type a guy, and would rather share that. I never understood the troll gossip lie crap that some like to do. It actually drives me away, from posting the good shit.

Yeah my biggest frustration & concern is the lack of buisness plan & structure, and not the actual car or its little teething issues. We were told more than they have shown & I expected more than what they are doing now. I know allot more then I share, and as of recently I’ve been a bit sour. I’m hoping a few things I was told will happen before my car arrives, as it might make me feel better? I knew about the new online parts store back in June, but could not talk about it. It just went live last week. But to be honest, I was not overly impressed, but maybe that’s because I knew what it was/is supposed to be like. Im told it’s still a work in progress. Again why not get it right before releasing it?

The good news for me is I have my prerun Baja bug (needs a full prep) & RZR. So I’m not lacking anything, and could buy any UTV on the market. So if Speeds ultimately not it, maybe something else is, or maybe I just keep what I have. Life is good and I’m blessed either way.

 

[RiverDave]

Thank you. I’ve always been a technical & fact type a guy, and would rather share that. I never understood the troll gossip lie crap that some like to do. It actually drives me away, from posting the good shit.

Yeah my biggest frustration & concern is the lack of buisness plan & structure, and not the actual car or its little teething issues. We were told more than they have shown & I expected more than what they are doing now. I know allot more then I share, and as of recently I’ve been a bit sour. I’m hoping a few things I was told will happen before my car arrives, as it might make me feel better? I knew about the new online parts store back in June, but could not talk about it. It just went live last week. But to be honest, I was not overly impressed, but maybe that’s because I knew what it was/is supposed to be like. Im told it’s still a work in progress. Again why not get it right before releasing it?

The good news for me is I have my prerun Baja bug (needs a full prep) & RZR. So I’m not lacking anything, and could buy any UTV on the market. So if Speeds ultimately not it, maybe something else is, or maybe I just keep what I have. Life is good and I’m blessed either way.

I appreciate your contributions to the site..

 

[sandshark1]

That looks like just a fan not an actual ball chiller like my truck..

No ball chiller, which is the best option during the summer.

 

[Bigbore500r]

Has anyone done the radiator lift kit yet? I’m hoping to do that and a few other mods before our San Felipe trip

Why would they not fix this as a factory recall or customer satisfaction campaign....etc

Seems crazy that it would be expected for the customers to handle this as a DIY mod, if they want to run the factory offered windshield and window nets?

This particular issue drives me nuts, I can't fathom this being left as the customer's issue....

 

[rivermobster]

Ya can't stop what ya dont got...

It's only been five or six years now? Give em a chance, sheesh!

 

[Bigbore500r]

It's only been five or six years now? Give em a chance, sheesh!

I just deleted the comment because it was pointless bashing.....but I see you have memorialized it

 

[rivermobster]

I just deleted the comment because it was pointless bashing.....but I see you have memorialized it

This thread needs some comedy. It's been way too serious up in here lately!

 

[bentprops]

I just deleted the comment because it was pointless bashing.....but I see you have memorialized it

he brings out the worst in us.

 

[Bpracing1127]

Why would they not fix this as a factory recall or customer satisfaction campaign....etc

Seems crazy that it would be expected for the customers to handle this as a DIY mod, if they want to run the factory offered windshield and window nets?

This particular issue drives me nuts, I can't fathom this being left as the customer's issue....

Because they don’t see it as a problem. Also this is a garage shop company. Not their issue. They have been great about fixing issues thus far. Optics show they didn’t test hardly at all with the issues they have been having. Again garage shop

All the other mfg do not have these tuning and or belt issues on a mass scale like these guys.

Lack of dealer network is the most scary thing too. Shows that either they (speed) can’t commit to the product or the dealers can’t buy into it. Either way scary

 

[Lunatic Fringe]

This thread needs some comedy. It's been way too serious up in here lately!

Tread lightly.

 

[NIKAL]

Why would they not fix this as a factory recall or customer satisfaction campaign....etc

Seems crazy that it would be expected for the customers to handle this as a DIY mod, if they want to run the factory offered windshield and window nets?

This particular issue drives me nuts, I can't fathom this being left as the customer's issue....

The radiator in the stock position is not causing any issues. It’s not causing any overheating or why you can’t run a windshield. There is no reason for a recall. The Hollander 1 1/2 in lift kit is to just optimize the radiator & fan location within the shrouding. It does not cure or fix the ability to run a windshield. It’s just a fact that a rear mounted radiator UTV is not going to be able to run a windshield all the time. But the plus is you don’t have the year around radiator heat blasting under the dash and cooking the riders, like you do with the front radiator UTV’s. Everything’s a trade off.

The radiator lift kit is just like any brand of UTV, the aftermarket finds a widget or something they think can make the car better. Like a X3 gusset kit or RZR upgraded ball joint.

 

[NIKAL]

Because they don’t see it as a problem. Also this is a garage shop company. Not their issue. They have been great about fixing issues thus far. Optics show they didn’t test hardly at all with the issues they have been having. Again garage shop

All the other mfg do not have these tuning and or belt issues on a mass scale like these guys.

Lack of dealer network is the most scary thing too. Shows that either they (speed) can’t commit to the product or the dealers can’t buy into it. Either way scary

Yes overall Speed has been very good about jumping on issues, fixing customer cars, even those outside of the warranty. I would say when it comes to fixing a legit issue or something they can fix, they are on it, much better then the other top brands.

As far as the other brands not having these issues or testing more. That’s not accurate either. Polaris had engine heat melting the firewall on the XP 900 and had to add heat shields. Polaris had a hell of a nightmare with the clutching on the 1000 the first year or two after it was released. If I remember correctly they too had a reflash? They were giving clutches and belts away as people were going through 2-3 belts a Glamis weekend. Then when they released the first year turbo model, those cars were constantly going into limp mode due to heat. So they did a recall to detune and lower the limp mode threshold to save the engines. Never once did they admit to an issue. But year 3 I think? Polaris opened up the grill, added a bigger inner cooler and cooling pack and promoted it as new & improved, 20% more cooling, yet F’ed the people who bought the previous years Turbo who were stuck with reflash ECU detunes. The first year Turbo S had a recall the first week for the cage failing. Then on the first year new XP Pro, they were grenading clutches as the casting were poor and they would blow up, and then they had fuel fittings leaking at the fuel tank pumps.

This is just an example of another brand having issues, after they claim tens of thousands of miles of testing and thousands of cars built.

Yes the Speed dealer thing is a big issue, and a big one for me too. But there is allot more to it than what you have suspected. All I will say is Speed’s vision has changed and I’m not sure it’s the right vision from a customer stand point.

 

[rivermobster]

Tread lightly.

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Truth be told, I do feel bad for the guy. He bit off WAY more than he can ever chew!

I can't imagine what his stress levels must be at this point.

Fuck that.

 

[Albacore]

I think you guys are exaggerating a little bit much here. I saw him last week when I picked up my car. He didn’t look too bummed out to me. They’re actually working through the issues and taking their time. Also a Shit load of cars have been showing up lately.

 

[riverroyal]

Has anyone done the radiator lift kit yet? I’m hoping to do that and a few other mods before our San Felipe trip

Dave, a good friend just passed away from a parasite he picked up not far from san filipe. He ignored the signs...you know the mex drill.

 

[Englewood]

Dave, a good friend just passed away from a parasite he picked up not far from san filipe. He ignored the signs...you know the mex drill.

I caught it on my last UTV trip also. Holy shit (literally), it was bad.

 

[Bigbore500r]

The radiator in the stock position is not causing any issues. It’s not causing any overheating or why you can’t run a windshield. There is no reason for a recall. The Hollander 1 1/2 in lift kit is to just optimize the radiator & fan location within the shrouding. It does not cure or fix the ability to run a windshield. It’s just a fact that a rear mounted radiator UTV is not going to be able to run a windshield all the time. But the plus is you don’t have the year around radiator heat blasting under the dash and cooking the riders, like you do with the front radiator UTV’s. Everything’s a trade off.

The radiator lift kit is just like any brand of UTV, the aftermarket finds a widget or something they think can make the car better. Like a X3 gusset kit or RZR upgraded ball joint.

Regardless of how you wanna describe it - The car overheats when you run the factory offered / installed windshield, in fact Dave's car blew the headgasket because of it.

Speed not fixing the issue, is leaving it up to customers to figure out how to fix what they bought. That was my point, and I think that's bogus.

It entirely possibly to have a rear mounted radiator with a windshield and enclosed cab. Why would you make this the consumers problem, when you sold them the car with those installed options? Speed didn't engineer the rear mounted radiator adequately, and should fix it and not leave it up to the customers.

 

[dirtslinger2]

Regardless of how you wanna describe it - The car overheats when you run the factory offered / installed windshield, in fact Dave's car blew the headgasket because of it.

Speed not fixing the issue, is leaving it up to customers to figure out how to fix what they bought. That was my point, and I think that's bogus.

It entirely possibly to have a rear mounted radiator with a windshield and enclosed cab. Why would you make this the consumers problem, when you sold them the car with those installed options? Speed didn't engineer the rear mounted radiator adequately, and should fix it and not leave it up to the customers.

To play devils advocate, Speed has told its customers that they could not run the windshield in anything over like 70 degrees. It was not a surprise when people saw heading issues with the windshield.

 

[Bigbore500r]

To play devils advocate, Speed has told its customers that they could not run the windshield in anything over like 70 degrees. It was not a surprise when people saw heading issues with the windshield.

They told them this way back when they ordered the car, and optioned it with the windshield?

Or.....after they found out when the first cars were delivered running around with windshields and were getting hot?

As of right now, I can go on the SpeedUTV website, order a car, order a windsield, and plunk down a $4500 NON REFUNDABLE deposit + $1,148 for the windshield, with no mention that you can't run it over 70 degrees without overheating.

"Driver you Speed UTV all day long with the comfort of a front windshield....."