Speed cars hit the assembly Line

[JayBreww]

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“The best car on the market”

 

[monkeyswrench]

“The best car on the market”

Ummm,
Doesn't something have to be for sale, to be "on the market"?

 

[702sandman]

This goes back to what was said earlier in the thread don’t remember what year now it’s been so long the cars Robbie built in the beginning were bad ass and hand built. This break is a perfect example of what will happen when the cars hit the consumers hands after the bean counters have “cheapened “ the parts to hit the price point RG is trying to sell them at. When I looked the cars over last night I honestly felt like ok these are definitely Hisun built cars and not what Robbie showed years ago, they are way cheaper versions. No need to SHIT on his cars he did that himself today hope this car is everything you hoped for LOF

 

[702sandman]

Hell yea. Let’s watch the hypocrisy fly on this one.

Remember what you all said to Carl 6 or 7 months ago for pointing out Polaris failures.

Pretty sure you have enjoyed our pain and suffering also

 

[WhatExit?]

 

[MonkeyButt70]

This goes back to what was said earlier in the thread don’t remember what year now it’s been so long the cars Robbie built in the beginning were bad ass and hand built. This break is a perfect example of what will happen when the cars hit the consumers hands after the bean counters have “cheapened “ the parts to hit the price point RG is trying to sell them at. When I looked the cars over last night I honestly felt like ok these are definitely Hisun built cars and not what Robbie showed years ago, they are way cheaper versions. No need to SHIT on his cars he did that himself today hope this car is everything you hoped for LOF

I agree, I was optimistic for RG when I saw the first versions that he built. RG and his crew are top notch Engineers/fabricators/builders. I was at the SS today and I looked over these early production cars detail by detail. I was disappointed at the overall quality, they look like they need to be sold at Harbor Freight. The positive side is like most new products these cars are going to improve drastically overtime. Unfortunately I think the early adopters are going to feel the growing pains the most and the later reserve holders will be the lucky ones as Speed learns to improve.

 

[ultra26shadow]

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Lol on its way to Morgan Motorsports

 

[MARCYTECH]

Came to check on memes. Was not disappointed by seeing an off-road car break in a parking lot demo.
Sup with those speed alibaba dirt bikes?

 

[Backlash]

This thread keeps on delivering, I'll give it that!

 

[monkeyswrench]

Breakage sucks, RG cars or China...I am more curious as to what failed. Rod end, pivot bolt, frame tabs or arm itself. Bolts and ends can be sourced from higher grade suppliers...metallurgy is tough to change at this stage.

 

[Boatymcboatface]

At least it doesn’t have radius rods to fix!

 

[outboard_256]

Breakage sucks, RG cars or China...I am more curious as to what failed. Rod end, pivot bolt, frame tabs or arm itself. Bolts and ends can be sourced from higher grade suppliers...metallurgy is tough to change at this stage.

It pulled the trailing arm mounting tabs out of the frame.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Pretty sure you have enjoyed our pain and suffering also

I’m going to enjoy this part even more .

I never said that much, go back and look. Everything breaks. The Pro is just another Polaris. It needs some help out of the box but is pretty good after that.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

This goes back to what was said earlier in the thread don’t remember what year now it’s been so long the cars Robbie built in the beginning were bad ass and hand built. This break is a perfect example of what will happen when the cars hit the consumers hands after the bean counters have “cheapened “ the parts to hit the price point RG is trying to sell them at. When I looked the cars over last night I honestly felt like ok these are definitely Hisun built cars and not what Robbie showed years ago, they are way cheaper versions. No need to SHIT on his cars he did that himself today hope this car is everything you hoped for LOF

You say that as if Polaris and Can Am don’t do the same thing. Polaris is the king of bean counting to meet a price point. All of these are built to a price point to make a profit. If you want a hand built one, buy the race version with the hand built chassis and carbon body.

The latest cars there look as good as anything Polaris and Can am put out today.

 

[JayBreww]

I bet this puts it another month out.
I’m gunna guess after thanksgiving the first round gets delivered.
I would think the first actual production cars will be ran hard for testing and either pass or fail.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I bet this puts it another month out.
I’m gunna guess after thanksgiving the first round gets delivered.
I would think the first actual production cars will be ran hard for testing and either pass or fail.

This isn’t going to change anything, they aren’t going back to the drawing board. The testing is already done they aren’t changing the chassis.

You wall tap any SXS it’s going to break.

 

[monkeyswrench]

It pulled the trailing arm mounting tabs out of the frame.

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Looks like 2 tabs, no gusset or plating...

 

[monkeyswrench]

This isn’t going to change anything, they aren’t going back to the drawing board. The testing is already done they aren’t changing the chassis.

You wall tap any SXS it’s going to break.

It wall tapped because it broke...the ass end didn't magically slide just on the right corner.

 

[JayBreww]

This isn’t going to change anything, they aren’t going back to the drawing board. The testing is already done they aren’t changing the chassis.

You wall tap any SXS it’s going to break.

Noted.

 

[outboard_256]

This isn’t going to change anything, they aren’t going back to the drawing board. The testing is already done they aren’t changing the chassis.

You wall tap any SXS it’s going to break.

Robby hit the wall? The videos' I saw it looked like it broke on the landing of a jump. Did he hit a wall in the demo and kept driving until it broke on the jump?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Looks like 2 tabs, no gusset or plating...

Yes this is the 2nd toe control link on the rear arm. Not the main one obviously as the car is still on 4 wheels. It is a smaller joint and tabs on the car.

 

[Boatymcboatface]

Robby hit the wall? The videos' I saw it looked like it broke on the landing of a jump. Did he hit a wall in the demo and kept driving until it broke on the jump?

Where’s the videos?

 

[JayBreww]

Yes this is the 2nd toe control link on the rear arm. Not the main one obviously as the car is still on 4 wheels. It is a smaller joint and tabs on the car.

Let’s hear your opinion? You ok with breaking like that? Or would you like it to be looked into? SXS Blog guy took out a support for their bay doors and it wasn’t this bad.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Robby hit the wall? The videos' I saw it looked like it broke on the landing of a jump. Did he hit a wall in the demo and kept driving until it broke on the jump?

You can see in pictures it was broken before the landing. It was injured before the jump attempt. They had been hooning around in the car.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Yes this is the 2nd toe control link on the rear arm. Not the main one obviously as the car is still on 4 wheels. It is a smaller joint and tabs on the car.

When I saw the one at DS a couple years ago, I was looking at the front suspension so much I don't think I looked at the rear at all. The rear looks to be very similar to a VW style arm. Really, sturdy as hell, 3x3 arms have made a lot runs in a lot of cars. Same goes on a buggy though, pivot points and mounting need to be strong enough to deal with lateral loads when coming off a jump sideways, or sliding through ruts.

 

[outboard_256]

Where’s the videos?

There are a couple of video's floating around. Everytime I see one posted somewhere it get's magically pulled. Robby has some sort of power. This short clip is the only one I can find right now. He did the jump 3 times and on the 3rd time it broke. It was fine the first 2 jumps.

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[JayBreww]

There are a couple of video's floating around. Everytime I see one posted somewhere it get's magically pulled. Robby has some sort of power. This short clip is the only one I can find right now. He did the jump 3 times and on the 3rd time it broke. It was fine the first 2 jumps.

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Removed already.

 

[dirtslinger2]

I will say, this is disappointing to see, but I know this car has been driven a lot, and those pivot tabs broke before at some point, and were rewelded on. You can see in the pictures that there is rust and some welds that don't look ideal or factory.
Robby says, this area was addressed on the production chassis, but we will only know when it's our hands.

I actually find this motorcycle more annoying, as it gives the appearance that they are already moving on to something else before we get our SXS's, but in reality they may have done nothing but have graphics made for it, as I believe it's just a re-branded GPX.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Let’s gear your opinion? You ok with breaking like that? Or would you like it to be looked into? SXS Blog guy took out a support for their bay doors and it wasn’t this bad.

Everything breaks. This was a preproduction car that was already hammered and fixed.

I’m not going to wall tap the car. This type of failure is a weakness of a non radius rod car. That can am on SXS blog had tree kicker bars that took most of that hit, and guided the car off the side of the garage.

When I saw the one at DS a couple years ago, I was looking at the front suspension so much I don't think I looked at the rear at all. The rear looks to be very similar to a VW style arm. Really, sturdy as hell, 3x3 arms have made a lot runs in a lot of cars. Same goes on a buggy though, pivot points and mounting need to be strong enough to deal with lateral loads when coming off a jump sideways, or sliding through ruts.

It is very similar to a VW. If you slam one of those into a wall sideways they are inherently weaker compared to other suspension systems. That is the cost of maintaining good geometry, travel and scrub radius because there are no radius rods for support. The rear arm of this car is huge, and will look very familiar to you.


The main link takes all the load and weight. The inner link that broke here just maintains alignment. You slam it sideways into a mountain or k rail, you’ll hurt it.

Same thing goes for a Wildcat XX

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I will say, this is disappointing to see, but I know this car has been driven a lot, and those pivot tabs broke before at some point, and were rewelded on. You can see in the pictures that there is rust and some welds that don't look ideal or factory.
Robby says, this area was addressed on the production chassis, but we will only know when it's our hands.

I actually find this motorcycle more annoying, as it gives the appearance that they are already moving on to something else before we get our SXS's, but in reality they may have done nothing but have graphics made for it, as I believe it's just a re-branded GPX.

Agreed on all counts.

 

[attitude]

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This is the main one floating around

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[LargeOrangeFont]

This is the main one floating around

#MakeGlamisSafe on Instagram: "Looks like it broke before the jump at @sandsportssupershow"

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Broken before it hit the jump.

Let me ask this another way.

How many cars could go off a jump and land with 1 pivot point broken?

 

[JayBreww]

Everything breaks. This was a preproduction car that was already hammered and fixed.

So humans welded it, not robots.
And yet it still broke.

 

[attitude]

Broken before it hit the jump.

Let me ask this another way.

How many cars could go off a jump and land with 1 pivot point broken?

I wasn’t there but judging by the IG comments there was a Can Am hitting the jump as well.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I wasn’t there but judging by the IG comments there was a Can Am hitting the jump as well.

The jump did not break the car. Any SXS could hit that jump, no issue.

 

[riverroyal]

The car isn’t a big deal you can go buy a $40k SXS from anyone. Not having to spend 20k on it after purchase is the big deal

If you don’t get it, don’t buy it.

My comment is about the cost. If it was 25k i still dont get it.
With that said i wont be riding in yours this season.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

So humans welded it, not robots.
And yet it still broke.

Crying shame.

 

[attitude]

The jump did not break the car. Any SXS could hit that jump, no issue.

I agree, but from the video it looks like it broke on the transition.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

My comment is about the cost. If it was 25k i still dont get it.
With that said i wont be riding in yours this season.

I don’t get what you don’t get.

If you don’t like it the answer is the same as it has been. Don’t buy it, buy something else.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I agree, but from the video it looks like it broke on the transition.

That may be when it failed, but it was injured before that.

 

[02HoWaRd26]

Yeah it’s called rubbernecking

Looked like a mob wanting to know when they’d get what they paid for, vs a crowd lol.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Looked like a mob wanting to know when they’d get what they paid for, vs a crowd lol.

Some people were trying to drink their $32k worth of free beer.

 

[Icky]

Yes this is the 2nd toe control link on the rear arm. Not the main one obviously as the car is still on 4 wheels. It is a smaller joint and tabs on the car.

I'll look at the car today when I'm at the show, but that tab probably should've wrapped the tubing it was attached to at least on 2 sides.

 

[riverroyal]

That broke section has some rust and 'old' looks
Pre production. 95% chance the production units dont have this exact set up.
Wait for it.....im giving speed a pass on this.
That failure means nothing to me.
This could be the unit they beat to death in testing

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

That broke section has some rust and 'old' looks
Pre production. 95% chance the production units dont have this exact set up.
Wait for it.....im giving speed a pass on this.
That failure means nothing to me.
This could be the unit they beat to death in testing

Stop being such a douche and rooting for failure Carl! everything breaks!!

I'll look at the car today when I'm at the show, but that tab probably should've wrapped the tubing it was attached to at least on 2 sides.

Yea take a look at the flipped over car and take some pics. I didn’t look at that area specifically. This way the armchair mechanical engineers and international supply chain experts here can tell us how it’s going to fail.

 

[riverroyal]

I don’t get what you don’t get.

If you don’t like it the answer is the same as it has been. Don’t buy it, buy something else.

I dont get the hype. I dont get why people are still fans.
Its not in anyones garage.

I cant be impressed. The company is laughable now.
They have YOUR money and 1000s of others
I dont get how these 'crowd funders' are still cheer leaders. When do you and the others start to say wtf?

I stood for 10 minutes at the speed both. Watched rg and max throw hats into the crowd. All this while ANOTHER date came and gone.

9 out of 10 were all taking shit about the cars not being done.

How does this company succeed? Thats what i dont get.
They are in a massive hole. Massive.
I dont get the long game or why anyone would invest in one.
Yes its a investment.

 

[02HoWaRd26]

Robby has taken part in a lot of legit off-road design, but that tan and other pics of the suspension mounting looks like it was over looked maybe not by him but everything needs double sheared as well gusseted specially on a trailing arm.

 

[WhatExit?]

I dont get the hype. I dont get why people are still fans.
Its not in anyones garage.

I cant be impressed. The company is laughable now.
They have YOUR money and 1000s of others
I dont get how these 'crowd funders' are still cheer leaders. When do you and the others start to say wtf?

I stood for 10 minutes at the speed both. Watched rg and max throw hats into the crowd. All this while ANOTHER date came and gone.

9 out of 10 were all taking shit about the cars not being done.

How does this company succeed? Thats what i dont get.
They are in a massive hole. Massive.
I dont get the long game or why anyone would invest in one.
Yes its a investment.

Well said. This is what the "haters" have been asking about and saying.

LOF and other Speed Fanbois can call us haters but we have the same Speed car they have and we still have our $$$

Orange Juice / Speed Queen thinking to himself...

 

[RVR SWPR]

Looks like 2 tabs, no gusset or plating...

If RG reads this thread you gonna be getting a job offer or at least consultant position.
Really getting curious why you dropped out?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I dont get the hype. I dont get why people are still fans.
Its not in anyones garage.

I cant be impressed. The company is laughable now.
They have YOUR money and 1000s of others
I dont get how these 'crowd funders' are still cheer leaders. When do you and the others start to say wtf?

I stood for 10 minutes at the speed both. Watched rg and max throw hats into the crowd. All this while ANOTHER date came and gone.

9 out of 10 were all taking shit about the cars not being done.

How does this company succeed? Thats what i dont get.
They are in a massive hole. Massive.
I dont get the long game or why anyone would invest in one.
Yes its a investment.

You've been saying all that for 3 years. You haven’t liked it since the beginning.

All start ups are in a hole. It’s part of business. They continue to prove all of you wrong by even existing.

Yes people are annoyed and want their cars of course. They succeed by delivering. That will either happen or it won’t.

The trolls have been saying - They will be out of business, they will never develop a car, they aren’t doing enough testing, they are doing too much testing, I don’t like their marketing, they do too many updates, they don’t do enough updates, the cars won’t be at the show 2021, the cars won’t be at the show 2022, It’s just like Tucker, blah blah blah. So far they are all wrong too.

You and others keep getting more iterate about a car you say you don’t even want. That is what I don’t get.

It is an absolute investment. People put up cash hoping it will be worth it. Remember a when everyone cried about that?

If nothing else I can sell my car at MSRP and go get a top of the line Polaris for 0 out of pocket. Seems like a good investment of $35k to me.

Once again why do you car what everyone in the booth waiting chooses to spend their money on.