Speed cars hit the assembly Line

[dirtslinger2]

He probably realized he needed help. Made a deal of some sort with Hisun.

Lets not be ignorant, this became to big for his infrastructure. Thats fine.
He couldn't pull it off in a timely manner, or financially.
So he did what he needed to do

No big deal. Probably means you guy will get your cars sooner

He's always had a deal with Hisun, been talking about the partnership since almost the beginning.

 

[JayBreww]

He probably realized he needed help. Made a deal of some sort with Hisun.

Lets not be ignorant, this became to big for his infrastructure. Thats fine.
He couldn't pull it off in a timely manner, or financially.
So he did what he needed to do

No big deal. Probably means you guy will get your cars sooner

He’s too big to fail.

 

[JM21]

So are those videos coming from China, Mexico, Texas, Mars, the White House? Based on his live video and this thread no one is still aware of where the cars are being made and if I had skin in this game I would be raising my hand with that question first.

 

[outboard_256]

Dam, just saw his live video where he says the factory in Mexico isn't his. He says lots of companies have factories in Mexico, he doesn't know of any for speed. He also said he doesn't know anything about hisun making there own parts, all the speed parts are coming from Asia. He doesn't know how a speedutv got into mexico and "it is what it is" and it's still business as usual for speedutv.

I really hope he is joking about all of this just to get more views. The fact that hisun has production speedutv's before speed has production utv's is very concerning. There is 0 chance of hisun having a full on speedutv with out robby knowing unless they are making there own parts off of his designs and actually beating him to market. Talk about a plot twist.

Robby Gordon on Instagram: "Popcorn for everyone 🍿"

2,612 likes, 230 comments - robbygordon on July 31, 2022: "Popcorn for everyone 🍿".

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[riverroyal]

He's always had a deal with Hisun, been talking about the partnership since almost the beginning.

I know. But obviously there is another deal that has surfaced. Like mexico assymbly.
What ever gets them built faster. Design is done
My can am could have been assembled there, not sure

Good friend has 4 seat can am RC that came from south America. Not a option in the states

 

[dirtslinger2]

Dam, just saw his live video where he says the factory in Mexico isn't his. He says lots of companies have factories in Mexico, he doesn't know of any for speed. He also said he doesn't know anything about hisun making there own parts, all the speed parts are coming from Asia. He doesn't know how a speedutv got into mexico and "it is what it is" and it's still business as usual for speedutv.

I really hope he is joking about all of this just to get more views. The fact that hisun has production speedutv's before speed has production utv's is very concerning. There is 0 chance of hisun having a full on speedutv with out robby knowing unless they are making there own parts off of his designs and actually beating him to market. Talk about a plot twist.

Robby Gordon on Instagram: "Popcorn for everyone 🍿"

2,612 likes, 230 comments - robbygordon on July 31, 2022: "Popcorn for everyone 🍿".

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I was watching it this morning, seemed sarcastic to me. That car at the Hisun plant in Mexico appears to be one of the early pre-production cars. I said it earlier, it had speed tires, speed shocks, RG wheels, king springs etc.......That was not a newly produced car from Hisun.

 

[outboard_256]

I was watching it this morning, seemed sarcastic to me. That car at the Hisun plant in Mexico appears to be one of the early pre-production cars. I said it earlier, it had speed tires, speed shocks, RG wheels, king springs etc.......That was not a newly produced car from Hisun.

If he is really saying that just to get more views instead of just squashing the mexico rumors then I don't think that's a good move. A rumor like this could really hurt his brand IMO.

 

[riverroyal]

He's always had a deal with Hisun, been talking about the partnership since almost the beginning.

I know. But obviously there is another deal that has surfaced. Like mexico assymbly.
What ever gets them built faster. Design is done
My can am could have been assembled there, not sure

Good friend has 4 seat can am RC that came from south America. Not a option in the srared

 

[merc_400r]

If you look the Hisun emblems light up and everything. This wasn't just slap some hisun stickers on a old pre-production speed car. Someone spent some time making this look like a hisun utv, not just for some 5 min press conference.

I now have a new plan. I will buy a new hisun utv for probably less than the $32k speedutv, then when speedutv's ever come out I will just buy the emblems and swap them out.

 

[dirtslinger2]

He sorta did squash the rumor, he said that Hisun will not be branding the car, and he did not sell the brand or car to them.

Sometimes he answers the questions in the comments of the IG post. I'm actually the person that asked a couple days ago, how many cars would be built in the China factory, and he answered it in the post, "100 of each model" My IG is @hsd1169

 

[WhatExit?]

The difference would be CanAm has their own plants in Mexico while Hisun is a Chinese company making SxS’s of their own and likely making Speed cars there and maybe Hisun branded versions.

Comparing CanAm’s own plants to China Hisun only highlights the difference

 

[RVR SWPR]

Performance boating has probably the best motor geniuses in the world. We all know who they are and where they are. Not unusual for a 2 year build schedule at best right now?Difficult to mention names,we have a long list of the best.
Point is RG needs 1000s of motors that will handle the abuse & hours you guys put out. Can only imagine the pressure,not only motors,every part on Speed Car going to need hold up,especially after all this conversation for several years.
I remember like yesterday first time taking my Dad out in my new Sleekcraft (1976). First thing he said “how long you expect that car engine run at 4700 RPM all day long”? LoL

 

[Racer56]

Robby is trolling the trolls. Popcorn anyone. Not answering any of the questions directly has all of the hater's heads spinning. Robby is obviously fucking with everyone and enjoying it.

 

[c_land]

Well that answers that.

Either it was a promo deal for hisun’s new plant or Robby has some other issues.

 

[Wizard29]

Robby is trolling the trolls. Popcorn anyone. Not answering any of the questions directly has all of the hater's heads spinning. Robby is obviously enjoying fucking with everyone and enjoying it.

Solid business strategy.

 

[WhatExit?]

Robby is trolling the trolls. Popcorn anyone. Not answering any of the questions directly has all of the hater's heads spinning. Robby is obviously enjoying fucking with everyone and enjoying it.

Did he tell you that?

Do you define “haters” as anyone questioning this company and their handling of its marketing?

It takes a special kind of person to run a company especially one like this. When an accounting guy runs a company his focus will be on $$$. When an operations guy runs a company his focus is on the process. When a mfg guy runs it the focus is on production. When a sales guy runs a company his focus is on business development.

Great company leaders are able to balance them all. I don’t know what kind of company management experience Robby Gordon has but we’re finding out day by day

 

[Racer56]

Did he tell you that?

He said it on his Instagram live stream.

 

[Racer56]

Solid business strategy.

If this was my deal it wouldn't be my strategy, but Robby is one of those people that love's the fight. Who knows, maybe they think all publicity is good publicity. If they are talking about you, you are Relevant.

 

[Wizard29]

If this was my deal it wouldn't be my strategy, but Robby is one of those people that love's the fight. Who knows, maybe they think all publicity is good publicity. If they are talking about you, you are Relevant.

I worked for a guy like that once. I was the GM of the company and basically ran everything. He could not live without drama and was always in some sort of altercation with a customer, a supplier, or a competitor. I lost track of how many times he had his lawyer write a "strongly worded letter" or he had to take a day to go to court. He loved the fight and would often turn on his own employees the very instant he perceived them as disagreeing with him.

That attitude filtered down into the company and really held it back. High employee turnover, poor quality in products, and limited product development. I managed to keep things at acceptable levels by inserting myself between him and many situations, but there was only so much I could do.

Eventually I had enough and left the company, taking all of my knowledge and design expertise with me. That was about 12 years ago and as far as I can tell, the company hasn't introduced any significant new products, hasn't improved their designs on existing products, and really hasn't grown at all.

In fact, after I left the guy actually had his lawyer send me a "strongly worded letter" warning me not to compete with him. I basically told him to fuck off. I had already gone to a different industry, but I do think of developing a machine to compete with that guy just for fun and simply because he was such an arrogant prick. Wouldn't be that hard for me to do.

Anyway, bottom line is guys who "love the fight" often hold themselves, their employees, and their companies back because they are always looking for the fight and want to win at any cost. Considering the other obstacles RG is up against, he probably doesn't need to add that level of difficulty on the top of it all.

 

[BIGRED9158]

Man lof head is going to explode when he come in here later today and reads all this

 

[RiverDave]

“I have no idea about Mexico and it is what it is….”

That’s what I took from that video and now I got more questions than answers..

It could be him fucking with everyone.. I wouldn’t put it past him.. but still something doesn’t sit right with all of this.. at least for me

I think he actually didn’t know they had a speed utv over there and did a debut with it.. That in itself is a little terrifying.

I will say he made mention “700 online tonight”. So maybe he is trying to drum up more eyeballs? Who knows..

RD

 

[Bpracing1127]

Where is LOF in all of this?

 

[Boatymcboatface]

Where is LOF in all of this?

 

[Bpracing1127]

I watched the Instagram live feed just now. The comment “it is what it is” should be scaring everyone right now. That is said when either you don’t give a fuck or you can’t do a damn thing about it. They maybe speed designed parts but hisan will make them for hisan first.

There could never be a speed UTV only hisans

I wonder what the paperwork you all signed says about paying up for your hisan when the time comes

 

[HNL2LHC]

“I didn’t sell anything” - is he saying they took it from him???

 

[WhatExit?]

Found online...

Translation: Before making fun of children who believe in santa claus remember that there are adults who believe in robby gordon

Hisun inaugurates its plant in Coahuila; increase the competitiveness of the automotive industry
By Luis Mendez. July 29, 2022
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After Hisun announced an investment of 105 million dollars in Coahuila at the beginning of the year , the company of Chinese origin and with a presence in the United States opened its plant in the city of Saltillo; the manufacturing complex is located in the Mencorsa Industrial Park .

The company dedicated to the assembly of ATV vehicles for different segments such as entertainment, agribusiness and sports, also confirmed its participation in the Coahuila 1000 event , which is held to tour the main regions of the state.

In this sense, Jason Sun, CEO of the firm, thanked the support of the state authorities to carry out this project. Likewise, he recognized the governor's management to attend to all their concerns and thus decide to invest in the entity.

“It is very pleasant to share this day with those present, since this type of vehicle is very common in the region, so I express my happiness that the governor shares the pleasure of driving one of them; however, our goal is that soon the majority of the inhabitants here will do the same.”

In his speech, Marco Villarreal, general director of Hisun in Saltillo, said that the initial workforce will be 1,500 employees.

He also referred that the supply will be completely imported, 50% from the United States and another 50% from China; however, over time they hope to be able to obtain all the raw material in our country in order to strengthen the local value chain.

He concluded that the first exports will only be to the United States and Canada , but that they hope to serve other markets from the Coahuila capital.

In its first stage, Hisun will manufacture 2 2 different models of this type of vehicle at the plant, so they will have the capacity to produce up to 5,000 units during the rest of the year.

Finally, according to information provided by the company, it is expected that by 2024 50,000 units per year can be produced.

Hisun inaugura su planta en Coahuila; aumentará competitividad de la industria automotriz

Después de que a principios del año Hisun anunciara una inversión por 105 millones de dólares en Coahuila, la empresa de origen chino y con

mexicoindustry.com

 

[SJP]

Typical Chinese - they could not even take time to powder coat the a-arms and springs white.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

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Well that answers that.

Either it was a promo deal for hisun’s new plant or Robby has some other issues.

Yep.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

“I didn’t sell anything” - is he saying they took it from him???

He does not have rights for distribution I bet.

Speed had all the US patents for the car. Yea Hisun could go change the suspension to screw Speed out of the deal, but why?

Also who knows what was in their contract.

Only on RDP in a UTV thread is another factory on this continent a bad thing that will screw people out of getting a Speed UTV .

 

[lavey jr]

Too many posts for me to read through and at the end of the day doesn’t matter to me because I’m not in the market to buy one of these nor any SxS.

Some comments I did read and made me wonder;
What’s going to prevent Hisun from selling “their version” in the US? There’s Hisun SxS vehicles sitting on the show room floor at Temecula motorsports, I was there yesterday. So if they sell other styles of their SxS’s in the US why won’t they try to sell these?

 

[SJP]

I am going to make a call - guy in the lower right of slide deck is Hunter Biden...

Hisun inaugura su planta en Coahuila; aumentará competitividad de la industria automotriz

Después de que a principios del año Hisun anunciara una inversión por 105 millones de dólares en Coahuila, la empresa de origen chino y con

mexicoindustry.com

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Too many posts for me to read through and at the end of the day doesn’t matter to me because I’m not in the market to buy one of these nor any SxS.

Some comments I did read and made me wonder;
What’s going to prevent Hisun from selling “their version” in the US? There’s Hisun SxS vehicles sitting on the show room floor at Temecula motorsports, I was there yesterday. So if they sell other styles of their SxS’s in the US why won’t they try to sell these?

Speed patents on their design.

 

[JayBreww]

Speed patents on their design.

Wasn’t he saying that towards Polaris as well with regards to his patents on the suspension Polaris used?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Wasn’t he saying that towards Polaris as well with regards to his patents on the suspension Polaris used?

Textron yes. No idea on Polaris.

That is why there are no Wildcat XX suspension parts other than the ones you can get from Speed.

 

[Xtrmwakeboarder]

I don’t care what letter your getting….the bet will be if you get it by then.

Shoulda taken the RD April bet....

 

[Racer56]

He does not have rights for distribution I bet.

Speed had all the US patents for the car. Yea Hisun could go change the suspension to screw Speed out of the deal, but why?

Also who knows what was in their contract.

Only on RDP in a UTV thread is another factory on this continent a bad thing that will screw people out of getting a Speed UTV .

Speed owns all intellectual property, distribution and trade mark's. Hisun is only a manufacturing and assembly partner. There will be NO Hisun branded Speed utv's. Hisun made the financial investment to build a new factory in Saltillo because they need the manufacturing capacity. Hisun needs a way to produce all the orders they already have on the books, both their own brand and Speed.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Man lof head is going to explode when he come in here later today and reads all this

I’m sitting back laughing at the hater hypocrisy.

Classic.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Speed owns all intellectual property, distribution and trade mark's. Hisun is only a manufacturing and assembly partner. There will be NO Hisun branded Speed utv's. Hisun made the financial investment to build a new factory in Saltillo because they need the manufacturing capacity. Hisun needs a way to produce all the orders they already have on the books, both their own brand and Speed.

I agree 100%. I just have no idea what’s in the contract between Speed and Hisun. If there ends up being a Hisun car it’s a distribution thing.

They said the factory will produce 5000 vehicles this year.. wonder which ones those will be

Only on RDP do the whiners think more factories producing vehicle means there will be fewer vehicles.

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

Is the HiSun version cheaper? Usually the knock offs are.

 

[ultra26shadow]

Is the HiSun version cheaper? Usually the knock offs are.

Yes I just ordered 50 from Alibaba

 

[Bpracing1127]

Speed owns all intellectual property, distribution and trade mark's. Hisun is only a manufacturing and assembly partner. There will be NO Hisun branded Speed utv's. Hisun made the financial investment to build a new factory in Saltillo because they need the manufacturing capacity. Hisun needs a way to produce all the orders they already have on the books, both their own brand and Speed.

What makes you think Hisan is going to play by the rules? The fact that Robby or anyone from speed (Todd) hasn’t really said a word about this other that “it is what it is” is raising a serious level of concern, no?

If Robby/speed would have mentioned this (big news imo) this wouldn’t even be chatter except for those with deposits claiming they are getting their car sooner now.

 

[Racer56]

What makes you think Hisan is going to play by the rules? The fact that Robby or anyone from speed (Todd) hasn’t really said a word about this other that “it is what it is” is raising a serious level of concern, no?

If Robby/speed would have mentioned this (big news imo) this wouldn’t even be chatter except for those with deposits claiming they are getting their car sooner now.

This is directly from the head of marketing for Hisun.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

What makes you think Hisan is going to play by the rules? The fact that Robby or anyone from speed (Todd) hasn’t really said a word about this other that “it is what it is” is raising a serious level of concern, no?

If Robby/speed would have mentioned this (big news imo) this wouldn’t even be chatter except for those with deposits claiming they are getting their car sooner now.

What “rules”? They can’t sell the car here as is with Speed owning the patents.. unless they buy him out, pay him royalties, or fundamentally change the design. Why would they do that?

If RG said nothing has changed with Speed, then choose to believe him or not.

If it is a promotional car to celebrate the new factory, it’s not big news. If Hisun is selling the car as a Hisun elsewhere, that is news but it does not affect anyone with an order here in the US.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

This is directly from the head of marketing for Hisun.

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[dirtslinger2]

Where is this post from, looks like IG

This is directly from the head of marketing for Hisun.

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[Racer56]

Where is this post from, looks like IG

It is.

 

[dirtslinger2]

It is.

Which page or post is it from? Is it on Robby's IG or ???

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

Will these be for sale at PepBoys?

 

[outboard_256]

If Robby was opening a brand new never mentioned factory in mexico for speedutv he would have been shouting it and bragging about the expansion, no? He is suppose to be fully transparent and that's what set's him apart from the rest. "it is what it is" makes me think he is hearing about this same as us. Other wise this would be huge news for speed utv.

 

[Bpracing1127]

If Robby was opening a brand new never mentioned factory in mexico for speedutv he would have been shouting it and bragging about the expansion, no? He is suppose to be fully transparent and that's what set's him apart from the rest. "it is what it is" makes me think he is hearing about this same as us. Other wise this would be huge news for speed utv.

This is my point too.