Speed cars hit the assembly Line

[WhatExit?]

Has there every been anything put out that Hisun was going to sell this car branded as a Hisun? Hisun hasn't even put out a post, advertisement, communication or anything regarding "their new model"
Nor has Speed ever said they would sell the car as Speed in the USA, and Hisun globally.

Hell, the post everyones all fired up about doesn't say at all that the new factory
in Mx was built to build the Speed car, thats just speculation. If you actually look at the exact instagram post and story, they show a different model of Hisun rolling off of the factor floor, not a Speed car.

This is all people speculating and guessing, and by the way people post their "assumptions" it's very clear who the haters are and aren't.

Hold on bucko. None other than RD himself expressed his concerns...

Hisun was always going to be the manufacturer l. Whether they are the financial backer or not I don’t know..

My biggest concern is the possibility that Robbie went to them to produce the car.. got it 100% ready for them right down to how to make it…

And they said “thanks for the car, now kindly fuck off.”

The Chinese do not give one shit about patent law.. when you sub assemblies to China for aerospace etc you never use one supplier for all of it for that reason.

I am really hoping this isn’t the case.. gotta be honest though I would have thought to have seen a release from speed this morning saying it’s no big deal.

The lack of release makes me think he’s sitting in some room right now trying to figure out what happened, and hopefully trying to save his deal. If they did steal his car (quite possible) he and us are royally fucked..

RD <——- not feeling so confident right now

And then there's this from the previous page of this thread...

 

[Heylam]

Hisun's Dave’s Place…………wait for it. Global dominance.

 

[SkyDirtWaterguy]

How long before DCB realizes they can make their $400k boats in China for $100k??

 

[WhatExit?]

To the guy shilling for Speed (Large Orange Mouth) and those of you still projecting your fears by calling anyone questioning Speed's plans and business model "HATERS" - you gonna call out RD on his post? If I posted it you'd be like a 12-year old who just learned swear words...

Hisun was always going to be the manufacturer l. Whether they are the financial backer or not I don’t know..

My biggest concern is the possibility that Robbie went to them to produce the car.. got it 100% ready for them right down to how to make it…

And they said “thanks for the car, now kindly fuck off.”

The Chinese do not give one shit about patent law.. when you sub assemblies to China for aerospace etc you never use one supplier for all of it for that reason.

I am really hoping this isn’t the case.. gotta be honest though I would have thought to have seen a release from speed this morning saying it’s no big deal.

The lack of release makes me think he’s sitting in some room right now trying to figure out what happened, and hopefully trying to save his deal. If they did steal his car (quite possible) he and us are royally fucked..

RD <——- not feeling so confident right now

Betcha he takes the bait

 

[was thatguy]

How long before DCB realizes they can make their $400k boats in China for $100k??

Wait a minute…you’re telling me there’s a DCB model available for under a half mill?!

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

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To the guy shilling for Speed (Large Orange Mouth) and those of you still projecting your fears by calling anyone questioning Speed's plans and business model "HATERS" - you gonna call out RD on his post? If I posted it you'd be like a 12-year old who just learned swear words...



Betcha he takes the bait

I’ll buy his spots for cost if he’s that concerned.

The difference between him and you is that you have 0 credibility.

You have no understanding of how business or profits work. You “oil company profits” post this morning proves it.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

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Polaris or Can Am going to shut them down yet Steve?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Wait a minute…you’re telling me there’s a DCB model available for under a half mill?!

What do you think the C stands for?

 

[RiverDave]

How many Speed dealers are signed up outside the US?

Exactly none.

What is Hisun’s bread and butter business?

Making private label stuff.

What good does it do cutting Speed out now?

Just look at the response here.. an identical car with a H on the front freaks everyone out. A $45k Hisun is not going to sell here. They would have to sell it at the price we got in for to get them to move.

Aside from “Because China”, I can’t think of a single reason why they would do that right now, aside from some internal business dispute.

And for the record we have gone from “Speed needs less updates to control the narrative” to “Speed need more updates to inform their customers and haters” in like 72 hours .

If the Speed website starts having 520, 521, or 525 errors twice an hour, and there are videos of Mexicans enjoying their Hisuns, then I would start to get worried.

Half a billion of unfulfilled orders would be a good reason.

 

[EarpRider]

Hisun's Dave’s Place…………wait for it. Global dominance.

I think that's what was happening last night when the site crashed.

 

[Riverryder]

If the Speed website starts having 520, 521, or 525 errors twice an hour, and there are videos of Mexicans enjoying their Hisuns, then I would start to get worried.

Hahahah dam shots fired!


Chinese market always knocks off an original design and sells it for way under.
I’ve had one of the knock off 110s. Clutch went out and holly fuck was that a fuckin headache to get the clutch plates. Tore it apart and needed all kinds of specials tools to get them off.
Ended up puttin it back together and gave it to my cousin to figure out.

Think that’s what’s gonna happen with this car. The car the mayor was driving looks like a rhino? Or something that they are selling for way under. My neighbor has a sxs that’s a direct rip off of the artic cat he loves the fuckin thing and got it new for 7k.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Half a billion of unfulfilled orders would be a good reason.

Why? Those orders are for $40k cars with a S on the front.

You told me last night you wouldn’t pay for a car with an H on the front.. and it’s the same car. Most of these people with orders and dealers feel the same way.

If they are gonna screw Speed out of the deal, this timing makes 0 sense, unless there are other unknown factors.

They are using Speed to elevate the Hisun brand and sell more. Not screw a couple guys, and sell less.

 

[was thatguy]

So


I’ll buy his spots for cost if he’s that concerned.

The difference between him and you is that you have 0 credibility.

You have no understanding of how business or profits work. You “oil company profits” post this morning proves it.

Correction: he said “gas companies”…which I dont know what that is.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Hahahah dam shots fired!


Chinese market always knocks off an original design and sells it for way under.
I’ve had one of the knock off 110s. Clutch went out and holly fuck was that a fuckin headache to get the clutch plates. Tore it apart and needed all kinds of specials tools to get them off.


Think that’s what’s gonna happen with this car. The car the mayor was driving looks like a rhino? Or something that they are selling for way under. My neighbor has a sxs that’s a direct rip off of the artic cat he loves the fuckin thing and got it new for 7k.

This is the design.. they are making the car. They are not going to knock off themselves…

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Correction: he said “gas companies”…which I dont know what that is.

Same thing as lumber companies I guess?

 

[Heylam]

This is the design.. they are making the car. They are not going to knock off themselves…

Agreed, they don’t need to knock off, all they need to do is rebrand.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Agreed, they don’t need to knock off, all they need to do is rebrand.

If you start seeing Speed cars with an H on them in America I might be concerned.

 

[was thatguy]

Same thing as lumber companies I guess?

I guess.
I’ve been on a LOT of drilling rigs in my life.
I’ve never seen a gas pump on any one of them.
They do have diesel tanks and pumps to run all the equipment, but a fuel truck comes and fills that up.

Not trying to ridicule, I understand the frustration at the gas pump. But the jump from pump to producer is ridiculous, but that’s the narrative constantly forwarded.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I guess.
I’ve been on a LOT of drilling rigs in my life.
I’ve never seen a gas pump on any one of them.
They do have diesel tanks and pumps to run all the equipment, but a fuel truck comes and fills that up.

Not trying to ridicule, I understand the frustration at the gas pump. But the jump from pump to producer is ridiculous, but that’s the narrative constantly forwarded.

Still struggling to understand the frustration here from people that don’t even have a UTV to put overpriced gas into.

 

[702sandman]

I’m down for a wager I’ll have my car by Xmas… $1000.

I will be your huckleberry....do we want to send 1K to RD to hold ?? your going to get a HISUN not a Speed car now

 

[SJP]

Do you guys use Yeti or RTIC cooler products?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I will be your huckleberry....do we want to send 1K to RD to hold ?? your going to get a HISUN not a Speed car now

Are we betting on what letter is on the front of the car, or when I get the car? Or both?

I don’t give 2 shits what letter in on the grille.

 

[Racer56]

You guys are killing me! This is a Speed UTV! They only re branded it for the announcement of their new factory in Saltillo, MX. Hisun is the mfg. of Speed utv's, always has been! It’s hands down the nicest vehicle they have ever been apart of so why wouldn’t they want it front and center to showcase what they are capable of producing.

With everything Robby and Todd have planned for the Speed brand, there's no way the McKinney Texas assembly facility would be big enough to keep up with demand. The Speed UTV will be Speed only, no Hisun version. Speed is selling their car's world wide under the Speed brand.

 

[702sandman]

Are we betting on what letter is on the front of the car, or when I get the car? Or both?

I don’t give 2 shits what letter in on the grille.

I don’t care what letter your getting….the bet will be if you get it by then.

 

[702sandman]

You guys are killing me! This is a Speed UTV! They only re branded it for the announcement of their new factory in Saltillo, MX. Hisun is the mfg. of Speed utv's, always has been! It’s hands down the nicest vehicle they have ever been apart of so why wouldn’t they want it front and center to showcase what they are capable of producing.

With everything Robby and Todd have planned for the Speed brand, there's no way the McKinney Texas assembly facility would be big enough to keep up with demand. The Speed UTV will be Speed only, no Hisun version. Speed is selling their car's world wide under the Speed brand.

If I was Robbie and put everything on the line including my Brand, money , and blood sweat and tears and they did a open house in mexico for a plant that is building MY car you can bet your ASS!!!!! I would be in that Picture celebrating this momentous occasion. Just my 02.

 

[dirtslinger2]

If I was Robbie and put everything on the line including my Brand, money , and blood sweat and tears and they did a open house in mexico for a plant that is building MY car you can bet your ASS!!!!! I would be in that Picture celebrating this momentous occasion. Just my 02.

There has not been one thing posted stating or insinuating that the Speed car was being built at this factory.

 

[was thatguy]

There has not been one thing posted stating or insinuating that the Speed car was being built at this factory.

Are you new here??
Don’t be bringing facts into an epic thread!

 

[Todd Mohr]

Robby needs to be careful, they might keep him in China for a while......

 

[702sandman]

There has not been one thing posted stating or insinuating that the Speed car was being built at this factory.

This is his car right ? The one he designed ? The one he has taken deposits on ? Why would it be there ? and him not in this pic ?

 

[Racer56]

If I was Robbie and put everything on the line including my Brand, money , and blood sweat and tears and they did a open house in mexico for a plant that is building MY car you can bet your ASS!!!!! I would be in that Picture celebrating this momentous occasion. Just my 02.

If I was Robbie and put everything on the line including my Brand, money , and blood sweat and tears and they did a open house in mexico for a plant that is building MY car you can bet your ASS!!!!! I would be in that Picture celebrating this momentous occasion. Just my 02.

This is his car right ? The one he designed ? The one he has taken deposits on ? Why would it be there ? and him not in this pic ?

It was a dog and pony show for the Mexican governor showing how he is bringing new investment and jobs to his state. Has nothing to do with Speed, other than Hisun is the assembly partner of Speed utv's.

 

[dirtslinger2]

This is his car right ? The one he designed ? The one he has taken deposits on ? Why would it be there ? and him not in this pic ?

It is, and I'm not arguing that, I'm arguing that NOTHING was said that they were producing this car in Mexico at the new Hisun plant. In fact if you watch the story, and post, they show a different model coming off of an assembly line.

My guess, which is what everyone else is doing, is it's there as a promotional product for what Hisun will BE producing, but I don't know either. I'd also guess, he's not there, because Mexico is a long ways away from China, where is currently located while they "appear" to finalize the production line. Maybe he or Todd, give two shits about Hisun showing off the Speed car? Maybe they all knew about it and approved it? Maybe they like the internet exploding over it, and will take the publicity? Who knows, except them.

 

[702sandman]

It was a dog and pony show for the Mexican governor showing how he is bringing new investment and jobs to his state. Has nothing to do with Speed, other than Hisun is the assembly partner of Speed utv's.

Your Guess is as good as mine at this point. just Another reason this is weird since he hasn’t said anything about it to the guys that actually have deposits so they don’t freak out.

 

[Racer56]

Your Guess is as good as mine at this point. just Another reason this is weird since he hasn’t said anything about it to the guys that actually have deposits so they don’t freak out.

I agree with you that Speed has really stepped on their dick's when it comes to this press release from Hisun and the Mexican governor.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I don’t care what letter your getting….the bet will be if you get it by then.

A car ready for me to take delivery or have taken delivery on or before 12/25/22, correct? I’m not talking an L because I could not get to Havasu to pick it up.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I agree with you that Speed has really stepped on their dick's when it comes to this press release from Hisun and the Mexican governor.

Truth. But considering leaving China and coming back means 2-3 weeks of isolation due to Chinese Covid policy, not sure a trip to Mexico and back was a good option either?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Your Guess is as good as mine at this point. just Another reason this is weird since he hasn’t said anything about it to the guys that actually have deposits so they don’t freak out.

Don’t worry, the jumping to conclusions crew will go with Robby has been enslaved at the bottom of a Chinese lithium mine building solar panels by the end of the day.

 

[Racer56]

Truth. But considering leaving China and coming back means 2-3 weeks of isolation due to Chinese Covid policy, not sure a trip to Mexico and back was a good option either?

No, I meant Speed should have put out a press release simultaneously defining what is actually going on.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

No, I meant Speed should have put out a press release simultaneously defining what is actually going on.

Yea agreed. However only a couple people here would have believed it.

Again remember less than 3 days ago when the others were saying that updates do no good and somehow saying nothing controls the narrative more effectively…

 

[Singleton]

Truth. But considering leaving China and coming back means 2-3 weeks of isolation due to Chinese Covid policy, not sure a trip to Mexico and back was a good option either?

China is 7 days quarantine for anyone entering the country who is not Chinese. If positive it is 14 days and starting on day 7 you test daily. If you test positive your time in quarantine camp is extended, until you test negative for 7 days in a row.

FaceBook, Instagram and almost all US social media sites are blocked in China, so he can’t post anything live, etc., if he is still in China. That is what makes me question the part video, it is either old or was not from China.

 

[riverroyal]

Car is developed in carolina. Or texas, built in texas. Or china, maybe mexico, shipped from china, could be mexico, to havasu, or coyne in el centro, might come with a H, or a S,
And will be in your garage a year ago.

Now we are up to date

 

[yz450mm]

 

[RVR SWPR]

You guys are killing me! This is a Speed UTV! They only re branded it for the announcement of their new factory in Saltillo, MX. Hisun is the mfg. of Speed utv's, always has been! It’s hands down the nicest vehicle they have ever been apart of so why wouldn’t they want it front and center to showcase what they are capable of producing.

With everything Robby and Todd have planned for the Speed brand, there's no way the McKinney Texas assembly facility would be big enough to keep up with demand. The Speed UTV will be Speed only, no Hisun version. Speed is selling their car's world wide under the Speed brand.

Excellent closing argument. Much needed reasonable explanation. There will never be doubt of the personal effort RG has put in. 3 years ago China constantly acquiring credibility. Then totally out of nowhere for most of us Covid slammed brakes on everything.

 

[BingerFang]

 

[EarpRider]

I'm assuming on page 2, 3 or 4 this was already discussed but if Hisun was always making the Speed car then why did every average USA Joe have to give Robby a shit ton of money 2 years ago? Honest question.
Also, has the idea of pre-paying for a product that doesn't exist ever happened before, just curious?

 

[outboard_256]

A friend of mine that has a house in Lake Havasu said that the Hastings building that speed was at now has a for lease banner up. Can anyone in Havasu confirm?

 

[HNL2LHC]

Wow, I missed a bunch of posts and pages. Looks like China

A friend of mine that has a house in Lake Havasu said that the Hastings building that speed was at now has a for lease banner up. Can anyone in Havasu confirm?

WIll try to drive by this morning….

 

[FlyByWire]

Robby just went live.

“It is what it is, I’m doing what I have to do to get cars out.”

“I didn’t sell anything”

“Grab some popcorn boys and girls..”

 

[white tortilla]

Wtf after watching his IG video this morning everything makes less sense.

 

[RVR SWPR]

Good enuff,he stepped up.

 

[riverroyal]

He probably realized he needed help. Made a deal of some sort with Hisun.

Lets not be ignorant, this became to big for his infrastructure. Thats fine.
He couldn't pull it off in a timely manner, or financially.
So he did what he needed to do

No big deal. Probably means you guy will get your cars sooner