Speed cars hit the assembly Line

[Albacore]

Pro R naked for cage comparison

 

[Albacore]

Kaw cage

 

[Albacore]

Speed cage

 

[Sportin' Wood]

We are talking about selling our reservation for RG Edition El Jefe. It's #203 El Jefe, #1377 Master. I've got $7k in options on top of the $37k price lock.
So I've paid in $11.5k. Is something like this fetching a premium over what I've paid into it?
The options I bought are big fuel cell, rear skid plate, Speed Trail kit with spare wheel, PCI radio upgrade, PCI parker pumper air, break-in kit.
Would it be worth $15k? Anyone interested?

I was still racing when I ordered it. Now that I've sold off the last of the race cars, we are thinking all we want is an old Rhino to drive the dog to the beach in.

@LargeOrangeFont would you mind giving a clinic on the sales process?

After 131 pages, you would think I understand how this works, but anyway, here goes: What do #203 and #1377 mean?

$11.5K into a $42K vehicle. So $30.5K remaining balance plus tax for a total purchase from you of $15K takes the final purchase price to $45.5K plus tax. You make $3.5K on your "investment" Guessing a positive return would be attractive no matter how much.

Does this whole deal allow you to take delivery in your home state?

What would this exact vehicle cost if ordered today, assuming they had inventory to sell?

What happens if you can't sell your spot?
I can't understand how ownership transfer of a vehicle purchased that has not been delivered in the agreed period becomes the responsibility of the buyer to sell.

Has anyone tried to get their money back from Speed?

Taking a hard left turn for this next section, hope you can keep up.

Does all this car need is a cage, seats, belts, and window nets to be race legal? If so, Your about $50K- into a brand-new race car. Find two good friends, and finance the remainder of the balance. Switch to BFG tires and pay for pit support. Split the logistics costs, and with any luck, you get the car in time for the 2023 Baja 1000. Pay someone to deliver the car to LaPaz, race your third of the race, get a finisher pin, and sell the car after the race. Eat some tacos get a few pictures, sh!t your brains out, and make some memories.

Seems like a pretty inexpensive vacation adventure to me. My brother and I have been spitballing doing something like this. I know a guy that has done it a handful of times on a bike this way. Just don't burn down the car; you can get a good portion of the money back on a slightly used, less than one-year-old Speed car. "I know what I got" type ad on Marketplace. You might even get it all back.

 

[Brokeboatin221]

Pontoon is sold.. Just wrapping up a few details before the new owners take delivery.

RD

I knew you’d come around congrats

 

[Sportin' Wood]

Speed cage

Not the same cage I saw at the AZ Offroad expo. Tube clamps all over the one I saw. Pre-production unit.

 

[dirtslinger2]

Speed cage

Thats a race Chassis, not a production chassis.

 

[Heylam]

This thread is Speeds version of a Rick Roll

 

[Albacore]

Yes you’re right on the speed cages they have the tube clamps I haven’t seen one with the body panels off in person to take any good photos but I was trying to point out the actual design of the cage the way it’s laid out more like Race built Chassis from what they said if you just lay a weld around all of their clamps and add the bar across the door opening it is score legal.

 

[riverroyal]

The Polaris R and Kawi cages have dust and dirt on them. Therefore they are far superior at this point.

 

[dirtslinger2]

I'll share my conversation with Robby from about 2 hours ago. Rather than speculate, or hate, I try to stay open minded, and go to the source when I have questions, and I actually root for a small guy going up against the large companies. Especially someone who is a fellow racer.

Me: Robby, any recent updates? Haven't seen anymore completed car pictures in a bit? Where would my #125 car be at, at this stage?
Robby: Andy, unfortunately Chongqing has been on lockdown again, I'm hearing next wee its supposed to be freed up again, but the last 3 weeks people have been locked down in regions again.
Me: damn Covid, are you still doing some assembly of cars or has it bee completely shut down now?
Robby: It's dumb what some countries have to done and I'm hearing NY is back into the mask thing, I'm over this nonsense
Me: It looked like we were moving along pretty will with pictures of cars, bummer
Robby: Only the workers that live on site have been working. I know that suppliers have been closed and no trucks have been allowed in to pick up the loaded containers. I heard this morning that maybe on the 15th.
Me, hopefully a little light at the end of the tunnel soon
Robby: Fingers crossed
Me: sounds like you have some cars already in containers waiting to be shipped.
Robby, Yes, containers are loaded with cars, as you can imagine I hate not having real answers
Me: Have a good holiday.

FLAME AWAY

 

[riverroyal]

I'll share my conversation with Robby from about 2 hours ago. Rather than speculate, or hate, I try to stay open minded, and go to the source when I have questions, and I actually root for a small guy going up against the large companies. Especially someone who is a fellow racer.

Me: Robby, any recent updates? Haven't seen anymore completed car pictures in a bit? Where would my #125 car be at, at this stage?
Robby: Andy, unfortunately Chongqing has been on lockdown again, I'm hearing next wee its supposed to be freed up again, but the last 3 weeks people have been locked down in regions again.
Me: damn Covid, are you still doing some assembly of cars or has it bee completely shut down now?
Robby: It's dumb what some countries have to done and I'm hearing NY is back into the mask thing, I'm over this nonsense
Me: It looked like we were moving along pretty will with pictures of cars, bummer
Robby: Only the workers that live on site have been working. I know that suppliers have been closed and no trucks have been allowed in to pick up the loaded containers. I heard this morning that maybe on the 15th.
Me, hopefully a little light at the end of the tunnel soon
Robby: Fingers crossed
Me: sounds like you have some cars already in containers waiting to be shipped.
Robby, Yes, containers are loaded with cars, as you can imagine I hate not having real answers
Me: Have a good holiday.

FLAME AWAY

No flame....
Info that matters. Seriuosly
Good post, which you did not need to do

 

[EarpRider]

I'll share my conversation with Robby from about 2 hours ago. Rather than speculate, or hate, I try to stay open minded, and go to the source when I have questions, and I actually root for a small guy going up against the large companies. Especially someone who is a fellow racer.

Me: Robby, any recent updates? Haven't seen anymore completed car pictures in a bit? Where would my #125 car be at, at this stage?
Robby: Andy, unfortunately Chongqing has been on lockdown again, I'm hearing next wee its supposed to be freed up again, but the last 3 weeks people have been locked down in regions again.
Me: damn Covid, are you still doing some assembly of cars or has it bee completely shut down now?
Robby: It's dumb what some countries have to done and I'm hearing NY is back into the mask thing, I'm over this nonsense
Me: It looked like we were moving along pretty will with pictures of cars, bummer
Robby: Only the workers that live on site have been working. I know that suppliers have been closed and no trucks have been allowed in to pick up the loaded containers. I heard this morning that maybe on the 15th.
Me, hopefully a little light at the end of the tunnel soon
Robby: Fingers crossed
Me: sounds like you have some cars already in containers waiting to be shipped.
Robby, Yes, containers are loaded with cars, as you can imagine I hate not having real answers
Me: Have a good holiday.

FLAME AWAY

Interesting read. The problem is that Robby has flat out lied multiple times, sooooo "Yes, containers are loaded with cars" I doubt it.

 

[Bpracing1127]

Interesting read. The problem is that Robby has flat out lied multiple times, sooooo "Yes, containers are loaded with cars" I doubt it.

same considering we are getting goods daily from china

 

[dirtslinger2]

Interesting read. The problem is that Robby has flat out lied multiple times, sooooo "Yes, containers are loaded with cars" I doubt it.

Well, as a low number deposit holder, he has never lied to me, so I'm not sure where that comes from? Reading post on FB, here, RDC, IG, etc........

Blown delivery dates, sure, thats happened.

 

[daytona man]

Well, as a low number deposit holder, he has never lied to me, so I'm not sure where that comes from? Reading post on FB, here, RDC, IG, etc........

Blown delivery dates, sure, thats happened.

First thing that comes to mine is when the blue Speed car was towed in the dark when it broke in daylight when confronted he said it ran out of gas . When he was confronted about it being in front of his shop with no motor in it the story got changed to the input shaft seal was leaking and they had to take the motor out to fix it ?????????

 

[dirtslinger2]

First thing that comes to mine is when the blue Speed car was towed in the dark when it broke in daylight when confronted he said it ran out of gas . When he was confronted about it being in front of his shop with no motor in it the story got changed to the input shaft seal was leaking and they had to take the motor out to fix it ?????????

When was it proven, or seen broken during the day? If you have that, I'd be interested in seeing that.
Is a Speed car the first that was ever towed at night time? Didn't seem that stealth to me with all the lights on.

The motor and trans are one unit, so how would you fix an input shaft? I've had VW's that suffer from an input shaft seal leak, guess what? I had to pull the motor to fix it.

But, seriously, show me where the car was broken during the day?

 

[Ace in the Hole]

same considering we are getting goods daily from china

It's just another excuse. Cheaper labor/materials etc come at a cost somewhere down the line..and now they "allegedly" can't even move the containers.. This thing has turned into an entertaining shit show, and unfortunately a lot of people have money tied up in it with no real recourse or timeline of when they may get what they paid for.

LOF etc may know better because they've signed the agreement, but did you guys sign away rights to legal recourse etc since you can't get a refund?

 

[daytona man]

When was it proven, or seen broken during the day? If you have that, I'd be interested in seeing that.
Is a Speed car the first that was ever towed at night time? Didn't seem that stealth to me with all the lights on.

The motor and trans are one unit, so how would you fix an input shaft? I've had VW's that suffer from an input shaft seal leak, guess what? I had to pull the motor to fix it.

But, seriously, show me where the car was broken during the day?

Why would he first say it ran out of gas instead of saying something went wrong and were looking into it !! I call that a lie even if it broke down at midnight !! Don't get me wrong I'm not a hater and hope Robbie pulls this off and gets cars to everyone that has deposits on them !! Just would like them as a company be honest !!

 

[Bpracing1127]

Why would he first say it ran out of gas instead of saying something went wrong and were looking into it !! I call that a lie even if it broke down at midnight !! Don't get me wrong I'm not a hater and hope Robbie pulls this off and gets cars to everyone that has deposits on them !! Just would like them as a company be honest !!

Garage shops say

“I’m working on it”
“I’ll send a crew tomorrow”
“I ordered the parts”
“It will be done next week”

 

[dirtslinger2]

Why would he first say it ran out of gas instead of saying something went wrong and were looking into it !! I call that a lie even if it broke down at midnight !! Don't get me wrong I'm not a hater and hope Robbie pulls this off and gets cars to everyone that has deposits on them !! Just would like them as a company be honest !!

You skipped the "it was broken during the day" where was that?

So, you couldn't run out of gas, then get to back to the shop and see a leak? They are still testing BTW.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

And for that very reason she could have been a little more forthcoming in her answer.

Because they are this far behind the 8 ball on expectations that they held, much less customers, accuracy and detail in any communication becomes increasingly important.

They have been very forthcoming as @dirtslinger2 has said.

The answers are out there.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Garage shops say

“I’m working on it”
“I’ll send a crew tomorrow”
“I ordered the parts”
“It will be done next week”

Polaris says “maybe next year at some point.

Seems the result is the same… late cars

 

[Bpracing1127]

Polaris says “maybe next year at some point.

Seems the result is the same… late cars

But Polaris isn’t a garage shop and cars have made into racing and customers hands.

 

[riverroyal]

Any new can am rumors for 2024? Asking for a friend of course

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

@LargeOrangeFont would you mind giving a clinic on the sales process?

After 131 pages, you would think I understand how this works, but anyway, here goes: What do #203 and #1377 mean?

$11.5K into a $42K vehicle. So $30.5K remaining balance plus tax for a total purchase from you of $15K takes the final purchase price to $45.5K plus tax. You make $3.5K on your "investment" Guessing a positive return would be attractive no matter how much.

Does this whole deal allow you to take delivery in your home state?

What would this exact vehicle cost if ordered today, assuming they had inventory to sell?

What happens if you can't sell your spot?
I can't understand how ownership transfer of a vehicle purchased that has not been delivered in the agreed period becomes the responsibility of the buyer to sell.

Has anyone tried to get their money back from Speed?

Taking a hard left turn for this next section, hope you can keep up.

Does all this car need is a cage, seats, belts, and window nets to be race legal? If so, Your about $50K- into a brand-new race car. Find two good friends, and finance the remainder of the balance. Switch to BFG tires and pay for pit support. Split the logistics costs, and with any luck, you get the car in time for the 2023 Baja 1000. Pay someone to deliver the car to LaPaz, race your third of the race, get a finisher pin, and sell the car after the race. Eat some tacos get a few pictures, sh!t your brains out, and make some memories.

Seems like a pretty inexpensive vacation adventure to me. My brother and I have been spitballing doing something like this. I know a guy that has done it a handful of times on a bike this way. Just don't burn down the car; you can get a good portion of the money back on a slightly used, less than one-year-old Speed car. "I know what I got" type ad on Marketplace. You might even get it all back.

If you wanted to race showroom stock or really any class, it seems the Speed car is is cheapest route. As you helped me figure out, it still needs a cage, which is unfortunate, but with the cage, door bars, and harnesses it appears you could go racing. In classes that allow the stock fuel tank. The one in question has the upgraded race fuel cell.


There is no getting your money back from Speed as I am aware. They will do the transfer for you. They will advertise the sale of the spot for you at cost and facilitate the transfer. It is between you and the buyer to figure out extra funds. A $3500 premium for that early of a car is a decent deal since the pride has gone up $9k since then, so you are saving $4500 and jumping towards the head of the line.

You would take delivery in Havasu unless you wanted to pay extra shipping charges to get it where you wanted it. I don’t know how it works, but suffice it to say they are shipping it to Montana for free.

Those numbers represent # 203 of 2 seaters. So presumably that car will be in the first batch of 2 seaters off the assembly line. They are just doing 4 seaters right now.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

But Polaris isn’t a garage shop and cars have made into racing and customers hands.

Not 2023 cars

A garage shop isn’t mass producing their own engines, transmissions, shocks and cars .

 

[angiebaby]

Well, as a low number deposit holder, he has never lied to me, so I'm not sure where that comes from? Reading post on FB, here, RDC, IG, etc........

Blown delivery dates, sure, thats happened.

??? Have you been given a delivery date? Or at least an estimate?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Not the same cage I saw at the AZ Offroad expo. Tube clamps all over the one I saw. Pre-production unit.

This is true, but all the tubing placement sizing and wall thickness is identical.

 

[Bpracing1127]

Not 2023 cars

A garage shop isn’t mass producing their own engines, transmissions, shocks and cars .

True but where is the mass production?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

True but where is the mass production?

Not in a garage .

 

[Ace in the Hole]

Not in a garage .

It seems to not be occurring in china as planned either

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

It seems to not be occurring in china as planned either

And what has occurred as planned in China for the last 20+ months?

 

[DLC]

They didn’t adapt and still suffering. Blaming COVID is not a good excuse anymore

Is plywood back down to regular price
gas price under $3.50 gallon
house prices normal

ahhh nope!

Speed cars were designed & sold at a certain price !
the longer they kick it out the better - For them!

as long as they have a verified excuse - china shut down ! Covid or no Covid shut down us all that matters such as - CARB ! or EPA approval …..

It’s all out of their control…

once you realize that you‘ll be better! Opinions don’t really matter much !

but 200 pages - Will BE Da BOMB!

 

[counterpart7]

And what has occurred as planned in China for the last 20+ months?

Quite a bit, I imagine almost everything you have bought in the last 20+ months came from China…

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Quite a bit, I imagine almost everything you have bought in the last 20+ months came from China…

I get it.. reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit.

 

[DLC]

This thread is Speeds version of a Rick Roll

What’s Rick ROLL ?

Asking for a Friend….

 

[counterpart7]

I get it.. reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit.

I get it… Comprehension in general isn’t your strong suit.

Nice “personal attack”. A few pages back you would have cried about someone saying that to you

 

[Boatymcboatface]

What’s Rick ROLL ?

Asking for a Friend….

Basically Anything LOF says in this thread followed by crying laughing emoji.

 

[DLC]

??? Have you been given a delivery date? Or at least an estimate?

Yes as a matter of fact - 2 weeks !!

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I get it… Comprehension in general isn’t your strong suit.

Nice “personal attack”. A few pages back you would have cried about someone saying that to you

That wasn’t an attack, that was an observation.

I’m not the first one to observe it.

 

[DLC]

Quite a bit, I imagine almost everything you have bought in the last 20+ months came from China…

Ply wood, Sky vodka, BLACK CHERRY SPARKING WATER, iCE, coors lIght, gas! Beef & chicken

non of that came from China….

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Basically Anything LOF says in this thread followed by crying laughing emoji.

Because many of you will argue any nonsensical position just to argue with me… it’s great.

 

[counterpart7]

Because many of you will argue any nonsensical position just to argue with me… it’s great.

Oh boy, pot meet kettle again…

 

[Havasu blue label]

I get it.. reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit.

Did you get your car

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Oh boy, pot meet kettle again…

The best is when they argue about arguing!

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Did you get your car

Yes.

 

[Havasu blue label]

thats cool enjoy it

 

[DLC]

Expect more Speed car delays….

 

[outboard_256]

I'll share my conversation with Robby from about 2 hours ago. Rather than speculate, or hate, I try to stay open minded, and go to the source when I have questions, and I actually root for a small guy going up against the large companies. Especially someone who is a fellow racer.

Me: Robby, any recent updates? Haven't seen anymore completed car pictures in a bit? Where would my #125 car be at, at this stage?
Robby: Andy, unfortunately Chongqing has been on lockdown again, I'm hearing next wee its supposed to be freed up again, but the last 3 weeks people have been locked down in regions again.
Me: damn Covid, are you still doing some assembly of cars or has it bee completely shut down now?
Robby: It's dumb what some countries have to done and I'm hearing NY is back into the mask thing, I'm over this nonsense
Me: It looked like we were moving along pretty will with pictures of cars, bummer
Robby: Only the workers that live on site have been working. I know that suppliers have been closed and no trucks have been allowed in to pick up the loaded containers. I heard this morning that maybe on the 15th.
Me, hopefully a little light at the end of the tunnel soon
Robby: Fingers crossed
Me: sounds like you have some cars already in containers waiting to be shipped.
Robby, Yes, containers are loaded with cars, as you can imagine I hate not having real answers
Me: Have a good holiday.

FLAME AWAY

Thanks for the update. Sounds like if everything goes right cars could be shipping in a few days.