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Oh and if it hasn’t had the Rube Goldberg transfer case mess changed, look into getting a Novak cable set up. Best thing I ever did to both 05 LJ’s.
 

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Dana 44 rear axle with track lock. Dana super 30 high pinion front axle with ARB air locker. Forged superior axles.

oh nice

I had one of those factory D44's I swapped into my XJ before the 1tons. Sweet setup, sounds like you got some great parts under that.
 

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oh nice

I had one of those factory D44's I swapped into my XJ before the 1tons. Sweet setup, sounds like you got some great parts under that.
When I bought it, it had the Dana 35 rear and the Dana 30 split front axle with vacuum. That was the first thing to come out.
 

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When I bought it, it had the Dana 35 rear and the Dana 30 split front axle with vacuum. That was the first thing to come out.

yup, that was just like my 89 xj.

after getting left stranded by that lame vac lock assembly up front I just ended up shimming it into the "locked" position
 

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Ok, so, I’m back in the jeep club. I remembered the two finger steering wheel wave and everything. This makes number 5. Clean lil jeep, picked it up for $10k
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I see you are unfamiliar with the finer things in life - Toyota Landcruisers.

edit; I'm joking, I've seen pictures of your boat (boats?), I know you have good taste. A landcruiser is like a Schiada
Toyota guy here, Three 4runners and and 80 series, Jeeps feel like kit cars made by high school kids. But you pay the Tax on either. They command money

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And a 6 speed manual is often a tough sell, deduct 2G often
 

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And a 6 speed manual is often a tough sell, deduct 2G often
Two ways to look at it. I wouldn’t buy anything with an automatic. Of course I drive an 18 speed as my daily. If you’ve ever owned a jeep, and live in the mountains you’d understand. The auto is a total slug going up the hill. Try finding a stick shift dodge. Impossible to find, and when you see one, they’re gone in minutes.
 

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nice score for a Rubicon price wise. I am of the automatic crowd, but each to his own. When I was rock crawling I found it was easier to negotiate obstacles without a clutch and gas and brake pedal. I know people that have a hand throttle on shifter, but still prefer to ease into it without burning a clutch. I get the 18 speed. Never owned or drove a big truck with an automatic.
 

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Rock crawling is a different deal all together. Same with desert racing. For all practical purpose, you cant beat a standard shift in a shit box. The reason everyone over fifty can drive stick is this; when we were 16 years old, the cheapest starter car available was a Honda/nissan/toyota/ etc 4 cylinder stick shift shit box. Not only were they the cheapest, but also bulletproof. An automatic will come nowhere near the standard shift in a shitbox (I classify this 20 year old TJ) in durability, overall performance from a speed&power ( Jeromy Clarkson’s voice) and maintenance standpoint. The automatic was always an upgrade way back in the day. Now, no one can drive them. It’s a lost art, like writing in cursive. I’d bet if you took a poll here on the RDP, if based on age, you’ll see a 20% decrease in ability to drive one, in decades of years old of driver. So, 50 and up, id say 80%can. 40 and up, 60% can, 30 and up, 40% can, 20 and up 20% can, and children learning now, almost zero can. No one owns them. No one has them available for they’re kids to learn on.
 

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Rock crawling is a different deal all together. Same with desert racing. For all practical purpose, you cant beat a standard shift in a shit box. The reason everyone over fifty can drive stick is this; when we were 16 years old, the cheapest starter car available was a Honda/nissan/toyota/ etc 4 cylinder stick shift shit box. Not only were they the cheapest, but also bulletproof. An automatic will come nowhere near the standard shift in a shitbox (I classify this 20 year old TJ) in durability, overall performance from a speed&power ( Jeromy Clarkson’s voice) and maintenance standpoint. The automatic was always an upgrade way back in the day. Now, no one can drive them. It’s a lost art, like writing in cursive. I’d bet if you took a poll here on the RDP, if based on age, you’ll see a 20% decrease in ability to drive one, in decades of years old of driver. So, 50 and up, id say 80%can. 40 and up, 60% can, 30 and up, 40% can, 20 and up 20% can, and children learning now, almost zero can. No one owns them. No one has them available for they’re kids to learn on.
You forgot to mention that a manual transmission is also an ANTI- THEFT device. You can leave the keys in the ignition. lol
 

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Listen to your wife. You need to spend some time outside of Florida….🫣😁
I hear you…….. I am heading to Australia in 3 weeks.

I too follow the Jeeps on BAT. I keep hoping that a CJ-7 like the one in this video below comes available. I already know I will probably have a problem with my wife, but I think I can sell the classic Jeep before I can sell buying another 2 seat golf cart. I can use the Jeep to go to car shows, tow my boat trailer, and take for beach cruises.

I would like to find a CJ7 like the one below……

 

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If any of you guys want to make your TJs actually stop.....hit me up, I've got a few kits available (new knuckles, bigger rotors, 2 piston calipers...etc).
 

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Rock crawling is a different deal all together. Same with desert racing. For all practical purpose, you cant beat a standard shift in a shit box. The reason everyone over fifty can drive stick is this; when we were 16 years old, the cheapest starter car available was a Honda/nissan/toyota/ etc 4 cylinder stick shift shit box. Not only were they the cheapest, but also bulletproof. An automatic will come nowhere near the standard shift in a shitbox (I classify this 20 year old TJ) in durability, overall performance from a speed&power ( Jeromy Clarkson’s voice) and maintenance standpoint. The automatic was always an upgrade way back in the day. Now, no one can drive them. It’s a lost art, like writing in cursive. I’d bet if you took a poll here on the RDP, if based on age, you’ll see a 20% decrease in ability to drive one, in decades of years old of driver. So, 50 and up, id say 80%can. 40 and up, 60% can, 30 and up, 40% can, 20 and up 20% can, and children learning now, almost zero can. No one owns them. No one has them available for they’re kids to learn on.
If you didn't have a 4:1 t-case...your tune would change on the rocks. Stock non-rubi 2.whatever:1 Tcase is miserable with 3 pedals on the technical shit.....Teraflex doesn't make their deal anymore and the rubicrawler doesn't work on a 5spd.

That's why I liked toyotas....you could stack as many reduction boxes as you wanted or go to 4.7:1 gears in a single case....it was badass. With a 2.28:1 and a 4.7:1 behind it, the brakes couldn't overcome the torque at idle....would go up whatever it had traction to go up and you could walk next to it and steer through the window if it got sketchy lol.
 

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If you didn't have a 4:1 t-case...your tune would change on the rocks. Stock non-rubi 2.whatever:1 Tcase is miserable with 3 pedals on the technical shit.....Teraflex doesn't make their deal anymore and the rubicrawler doesn't work on a 5spd.

That's why I liked toyotas....you could stack as many reduction boxes as you wanted or go to 4.7:1 gears in a single case....it was badass. With a 2.28:1 and a 4.7:1 behind it, the brakes couldn't overcome the torque at idle....would go up whatever it had traction to go up and you could walk next to it and steer through the window if it got sketchy lol.
I had I built tj with an atlas 4 speed, and 5 speed manual. I ran all over Johnson valley a million years ago when you could run sledge on 35’s. I had a thumb throttle on the stick, I never had any issues. I guess it’s just me. This was one of my TJ’s. That’s my oldest, he’s 24 years old now
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I had I built tj with an atlas 4 speed, and 5 speed manual. I ran all over Johnson valley a million years ago when you could run sledge on 35’s. I had a thumb throttle on the stick, I never had any issues. I guess it’s just me. This was one of my TJ’s. That’s my oldest, he’s 24 years old now View attachment 1452757
Ahh...an Atlas, not stock reduction ratio....you'd have cooked 4 clutches getting there with the stock T-case lol. I love manual stuff, but gotta get more gear in it or its sorta lame.
 

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Couple pics. I’m planning on giving it a good look over this weekend. I can tell it’s got a wheel seal leak already, gonna tear into that for sure. On a positive note, the top and doors have never been off, and every control arm bracket it perfect, like it’s never touched rock. So that’s cool.
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If you’ve owned jeeps, you’d understand. Show me any vehicle that has a/c, seats four, has four low, and lockers, put a boat in the water, do 70 on the freeway, and will only go up in value, for under $15k. Now, all things being equal, and it is mechanically sound. I was looking at getting one of those sic ass four door hard top side by sides. Those bastards are $45k and up! And only going down in value, and has nowhere near the duty cycle or capability of a tj. Of course biased. Ive owned two TJs, and two CJs. Oh. Maybe that’s it. I’ve owned too many jeeps.
4runner?

Maybe, with Japanese build quality and dependability.
 

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4runner?

Maybe, with Japanese build quality and dependability.
I’ll admit, similar Year four runner is dope. However, not The same, in my opinion. They’ve got arm front end, and unibody construction, but you can get a stick shift. Can’t beat Dana 44’s, with 4:11’s and a transfer case with 4:0 low range, and a stick shift for 10 grand.
 

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4-runners are uni-body? I thought they were body on frame, like the Tacoma's.
 

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Just checked into it, it is a body on frame construction. That’s definitely a plus. I could see putting a live axle up front would be bad ass. It would take much either…
 

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If you didn't have a 4:1 t-case...your tune would change on the rocks. Stock non-rubi 2.whatever:1 Tcase is miserable with 3 pedals on the technical shit.....Teraflex doesn't make their deal anymore and the rubicrawler doesn't work on a 5spd.

That's why I liked toyotas....you could stack as many reduction boxes as you wanted or go to 4.7:1 gears in a single case....it was badass. With a 2.28:1 and a 4.7:1 behind it, the brakes couldn't overcome the torque at idle....would go up whatever it had traction to go up and you could walk next to it and steer through the window if it got sketchy lol.

168:1?

Have you tried a different prop?

Dan'l
 

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My TJ had gearing like that. Many times you’d feel the drive train winding up but the tire would be wedged, and you cringe when the inevitable snap of something would occur. Rock crawling was tons of fun, but when the side by sides came out, all my gang started going that direction, and after a while no one wanted to go out to the hammers any more. So, I sold that jeep to a buddy, that is a lurker on here. He subsequently rolled the shit out of that jeep like two weeks later, then his dip shit buddy convinced him to chop it all up and change everything, and I believe that the jeep is still in his garage all chopped up with no axles under it. It’s been like 10 years like that now.
 

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Rock crawling is a different deal all together. Same with desert racing. For all practical purpose, you cant beat a standard shift in a shit box. The reason everyone over fifty can drive stick is this; when we were 16 years old, the cheapest starter car available was a Honda/nissan/toyota/ etc 4 cylinder stick shift shit box. Not only were they the cheapest, but also bulletproof. An automatic will come nowhere near the standard shift in a shitbox (I classify this 20 year old TJ) in durability, overall performance from a speed&power ( Jeromy Clarkson’s voice) and maintenance standpoint. The automatic was always an upgrade way back in the day. Now, no one can drive them. It’s a lost art, like writing in cursive. I’d bet if you took a poll here on the RDP, if based on age, you’ll see a 20% decrease in ability to drive one, in decades of years old of driver. So, 50 and up, id say 80%can. 40 and up, 60% can, 30 and up, 40% can, 20 and up 20% can, and children learning now, almost zero can. No one owns them. No one has them available for they’re kids to learn on.

I’m 31 and the first car I ever drove was a 1970 CJ5. I was 12 years old and I had to wedge myself between the front edge of the seat and pull on the steering wheel to get the clutch all the way in, not being able to see over the dash at that point. Once I dumped it and took off I was in tall cotton but starting and stopping sure was a challenge.

Definitely a fun car to keep in the family forever.
 
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