Russia and Ukraine

[monkeyswrench]

Open Borders have been and always will be Dem policy. Period. RedPilled is certainly not Bliss.
Hard to comprehend the level of Racketeering going on under Reagan's nose then, FF to Ukraine before 45 get's elected, then during 45's administration. FF to now. Billions in hush money, WW3 on the near horizon. The "People," ignorant.

Ongoing now, in Ukraine. Pop's, would be soooo Pissed.
Buckle up. Semper Fi.

Let's not forget, Mexico, Canada and Biden signing some unity agreement a few weeks ago...

 

[monkeyswrench]

About 5 headlines popped up, in English, Ukrainian and German (give it a few hours for the French?) The headline was saying a Russian reporter (Olga Zenkova) was sent to Melitopol to "record a propaganda piece" and she was raped by Akhmat battalion members...

They claim her and her camara man were eating in a restaurant when the nephew of the Chechen military spokeshole and his unit, beat them both up and then raped her.

Russian makeup must be good, because she was on the air a couple day later. The other oddity, she's a local reporter out of the Ural area, covering the Urals and Siberia. This would be like sending the hot weather girl to Iraq for a piece on modern warfare.

Oddly enough, Ukrainian news posted the piece two days ago...and it seems yesterday everyone translated it.

 

[Danger Dave]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1620855071083999234

 

[94Nautique]

It appears you have "far right", Nazi and neo-fascist slightly confused.
I understand you hate Putin...according to some he was responsible for Trump winning. We all know how you feel about that. There is a difference between communist Russia, and, as you put it, "far right" Ukrainian separatists. The ones you speak of, would prefer communism to being slaves to a fascist government, which is basically a puppet of the west.

It's not the Russians, nor their supporters, putting up statues of Nazis and printing books about Bandera. I'm more Anti-Nazi than Pro-Ukraine. Ditch the Nazi groups, and let them have weapons.
Arming Nazis is foolish, like arming terrorists or something...like every president seems to do. Must keep the war machine oiled with the blood of the innocent.

All leftist try that shit. Fascists and NAZIs are no where near the right. They are as leftist as can be, and the leftist know it hence their lies.

 

[Racey]

Yeah guys, remember it's the asylum system that is the problem, all these people just have to request asylum, that's why they pay cartel coyotes millions and millions a year to smuggle them in....

What a cop out joke.

 

[530RL]

Yeah guys, remember it's the asylum system that is the problem, all these people just have to request asylum, that's why they pay cartel coyotes millions and millions a year to smuggle them in....

What a cop out joke.

But once they get here and apply, even MAGA governors fly them to Martha’s Vineyard for three square meals and a roof over their head.

But of course those laws are just fine, no change needed according to you.

 

[Racey]

But once they get here and apply, even MAGA governors fly them to Martha’s Vineyard for three square meals and a roof over their head.

But of course those laws are just fine, no change needed according to you.

That's because MAGA governors can't deport them.

Flying them to Martha's vinyard and NYC has been more effective than anything you and your losers have done in the last 30 years about them. And that's why it's gets under your skin

 

[t&y]

Lol... Russia Russia Russia.... that didn't take long. Almost more predictable then Killary witnesses committing murdercide.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Lol... Russia Russia Russia.... that didn't take long. Almost more predictable then Killary witnesses committing murdercide.

At least in this thread, "Russia, Russia, Russia"...is actually appropriate. Usually it starts with something about Trump, and goes to Russia. This one has Russia in the title

 

[530RL]

That's because MAGA governors can't deport them.

Flying them to Martha's vinyard and NYC has been more effective than anything you and your losers have done in the last 30 years about them. And that's why it's gets under your skin

Exactly. They can’t deport them because existing laws preclude such actions.

Laws you support and do not want to change.

 

[Racey]

Exactly. They can’t deport them because existing laws preclude such actions.

Laws you support and do not want to change.

They can't deport them because under the constitution immigration is a federal jurisdiction issue, not a state one.

But they can do the next best thing, send them to the places advocating for them and let them bear the burden. Like i said, it's effective so it gets under your skin.

Your, and your donations, and politicians have supported these laws, not mine.

Nice try attempt to place the blame elsewhere

 

[TPC]

 

[monkeyswrench]

Hmm...from quite a while ago. Funny she has it noted "State TV, Kremlin TV..." while doing an interview on PBS


Other news, "Mozart Group", the American PMC, announced yesterday they're leaving. Really not leaving, but the owner definitely is. Legal issues sounding more personal than military. He tweeted out that the unit was being dissolved.

Also yesterday, Ukraine Secret Services raided a bunch of government officials homes. "Corruption" charges and arrests. Lots of pics of stacks of money, from everywhere. Very interesting. Either a power play, or trying to actually reign in the corruption...but it seems all the players are corrupt. So that should be interesting.

For fun, look up "forced conscription in Ukraine". The "recruitment" process is both funny, and scary.

 

[xlint89]

I agree.

Unfortunately too many people refuse to address the laws that preclude that from happening.

As a result it can not be sealed due to the inability of some, many in here, who refuse to address the immigration laws that preclude such solution from happening.

Interesting how the man you loathe so much was able to slow the influx to a trickle. Even with the existing laws.

 

[t&y]

Interesting how the man you loathe so much was able to slow the influx to a trickle. Even with the existing laws.

Ohhhhhh here it comes......

 

[530RL]

Interesting how the man you loathe so much was able to slow the influx to a trickle. Even with the existing laws.

I’m certain you honestly believe that. The data shows otherwise.

https://www.cato.org/blog/president-trump-reduced-legal-immigration-he-did-not-reduce-illegal-immigration

 

[Wedgy]

Ok, let's review shall we. The last paragraph says, "Trump oversaw the collapse of interior enforcement."

Not so fast there Turbo. Your article then goes on to say,

"Trump failed to increase removals, Because local jurisdictions refused to cooperate with his administration."

Nice Sammich

 

[Sandlord]

Interesting how the man you loathe so much was able to slow the influx to a trickle. Even with the existing laws.

The difference was that the encounters under Trump were counted, and returned to Mexico.
The Biden encounters were allowed in.

 

[530RL]

The difference was that the encounters under Trump were counted, and returned to Mexico.
The Biden encounters were allowed in.

Does the law require asylum seekers to be returned? No it does not.

So why is it that you and the vast majority in here wish to keep such a law in place as well as defend a law that does not require removal?

I just don’t get why you all think such a flawed
law is perfectly fine and there is no reason to change it.

 

[Wedgy]

Does the law require asylum seekers to be returned? No it does not.

I just don’t get why you all think such a flawed
law is perfectly fine and there is no reason to change it.

But. Are you asking the right question?
Require? No. Allow for removal? Obviously...

How about enforcement of a closed border, and remain in Mexico. Like my Local 18 Apprentices were legally required to do in order to obtain US citizenship. Watched them go through it for 11 years, 1999, through 2010. Your experience may vary.

 

[xlint89]

I’m certain you honestly believe that. The data shows otherwise.

https://www.cato.org/blog/president-trump-reduced-legal-immigration-he-did-not-reduce-illegal-immigration

No, the caravan being held up in Mexico under Trump, and them forming again right after your boy was elected is tell-tale enough for me.

And asylum seekers don't sneak into a country.

 

[monkeyswrench]

No, the caravan being held up in Mexico under Trump, and them forming again right after your boy was elected is tell-tale enough for me.

And asylum seekers don't sneak into a country.

Are you referring to the ones on TV, that had Biden shirts and cell phones?

 

[530RL]

No, the caravan being held up in Mexico under Trump, and them forming again right after your boy was elected is tell-tale enough for me.

And asylum seekers don't sneak into a country.

I fully understand how for some emotion is more import than data and facts.

 

[Racey]

530 still spreing this bullshit that the bulk are asylum seekers, that is absolutely not true. The bulk sneak in and skirt the system fully

 

[530RL]

530 still spreing this bullshit that the bulk are asylum seekers, that is absolutely not true. The bulk sneak in and skirt the system fully

Sounds like you are another one of them who thinks asylum laws are perfectly fine and need no changing.

Not surprised at all.

 

[Racey]

Sounds like you are another one of them who thinks asylum laws are perfectly fine and need no changing.

Not surprised at all.

Try harder

 

[sprintcvx]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1621590429396238338

 

[monkeyswrench]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1621590429396238338

Seems like Putin and Zelensky are "getting together". Probably not the way he intended.

 

[Wedgy]

I fully understand how for some emotion is more import than data and facts.

Finally. A real Woman

 

[was thatguy]

530 still spreing this bullshit that the bulk are asylum seekers, that is absolutely not true. The bulk sneak in and skirt the system fully

It’s absolutely amazing seeing his transformation from a somewhat level headed, otherwise intelligent man being reduced to a blithering idiot CONSUMED by his frustrations with, and hate of, one man…Trump.
A man, btw, who hasn’t been in office for how long now?
The crazy part is he goes to great lengths to construct rambling, multi subject paragraphs and posts that jump from perch to perch, stone to stone, yet ALWAYS ending up at the same place. “I hate Trump and it’s all your fault!”
When that gets too weak he does a zig zag move into the same old reductio rants…chem trails, primarily, seem to be his go to?
All of that typing could be avoided if he just had a big sig line that said “I hate Trump and all of you are Trumpkins!” and just posted that each time.

He’s kind of now landed on the same shore that he dropped Shameus off on, crazy town.
If I considered him human Id feel sorry for him.

 

[Wedgy]

Sounds like you are another one of them who thinks asylum laws are perfectly fine and need no changing.

Not surprised at all.

Are You MisPronouning Inmates now? Who TF is Them? Don't Label me Bro. How Dare YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[xlint89]

I’m certain you honestly believe that. The data shows otherwise.

https://www.cato.org/blog/president-trump-reduced-legal-immigration-he-did-not-reduce-illegal-immigration

Oh, the data.......

Whose data?

The ones that told us the China Flu was from a bat in an open air market? The ones that told us the vaccine will prevent you from getting the vid and it's 100% safe and effective? The ones who said the Hunter Xiden laptop was a Russian hoax? The ones that told us there was no election fraud? The ones that say there are no bioweapons labs in Ukraine? Or the same group that says there is no problem at the border? (which you yourself have even admitted is a problem)

That reliable data? Good grief.

 

[Angler]

Oh, the data.......

Whose data?

The ones that told us the China Flu was from a bat in an open air market? The ones that told us the vaccine will prevent you from getting the vid and it's 100% safe and effective? The ones who said the Hunter Xiden laptop was a Russian hoax? The ones that told us there was no election fraud? The ones that say there are no bioweapons labs in Ukraine? Or the same group that says there is no problem at the border? (which you yourself have even admitted is a problem)

That reliable data? Good grief.

 

[was thatguy]

Oh, the data.......

Whose data?

The ones that told us the China Flu was from a bat in an open air market? The ones that told us the vaccine will prevent you from getting the vid and it's 100% safe and effective? The ones who said the Hunter Xiden laptop was a Russian hoax? The ones that told us there was no election fraud? The ones that say there are no bioweapons labs in Ukraine? Or the same group that says there is no problem at the border? (which you yourself have even admitted is a problem)

That reliable data? Good grief.

 

[sprintcvx]

Oh, the data.......

Whose data?

The ones that told us the China Flu was from a bat in an open air market? The ones that told us the vaccine will prevent you from getting the vid and it's 100% safe and effective? The ones who said the Hunter Xiden laptop was a Russian hoax? The ones that told us there was no election fraud? The ones that say there are no bioweapons labs in Ukraine? Or the same group that says there is no problem at the border? (which you yourself have even admitted is a problem)

That reliable data? Good grief.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Ukrainian Defense Minister "resigned" today....
I don't think he was caught up in the corruption raids though.

 

[rmarion]

 

[was thatguy]

View attachment 1196438

“Look!!! Over there!!! Chemtrails!!!”

383.9 and his cheerleader.

 

[regor]

Emmanuel Todd: World War III has already begun

The third world war has already started, according to one of France’s leading intellectuals, Emmanuel Todd. Speaking to Le Figaro last week, the anthropologist and historian claimed that, contrary to the prevailing idea that Russia has more to lose than its liberal opponents, the West, too, has...

unherd.com

 

[monkeyswrench]

Also, keep your eyes on Turkey. Apparently Erdogon has pissed off NATO by not wanting to back the Ukraine war, and openly criticizing the actions being taken. People in his cabinet have already claimed that "an uprising, like the Maidon, is being planned against us"

Well shit howdy, what would happen then? Aside from bordering the powder keg that is Syria, there is a little issue with Istanbul...If and when Ukraine falls, there will be no chance of retaking the retaken areas known as Crimea. Controlling Turkey is a massive strategic move. Now, we all know how well Muslims play with westerners. To take control in Ankara will be more bloody than the past 8 years in Ukraine.

WWIII is pretty much upon us. It isn't chemtrails or conspiracy, it's geopolitical grasping for power. There are lots of pawns being moved very quickly, the chessboard has been set for years.

 

[spectras only]

The West is in denial of the fact, Russia and China are strong allies now. Russia sells 70% their commodities to China, India, Turkey and Pakistan, so much for sanction there. The West bit off more than could chew for a long run.
Hoping things cool down, before the US and Canada gets involved by European pressure, much deeper!

 

[regor]

During the interview, he expanded on his thesis, saying that “the resistance of the Russian economy [to sanctions] is pushing the American imperial system towards the precipice.” He added that, if Russia “managed to exhaust the European economy, while maintaining Chinese backing, American monetary and financial controls of the world would collapse, and with them the possibility for the United States to fund their huge trade deficit for nothing.”


The money changers are in a pickle and now you know why our resident whore’s panties are in a bunch.

 

[monkeyswrench]

The West is in denial of the fact, Russia and China are strong allies now. Russia sells 70% their commodities to China, India, Turkey and Pakistan, so much for sanction there. The West bit off more than could chew for a long run.
Hoping things cool down, before the US and Canada gets involved much deeper by European pressure..

I don't know if it is European pressure, or the US pressuring the EU to act on it's behalf. It's all messed up. The transfer of arms is a blatant escalation of aggression. It's not going to end well. As for China, they're the only superpower not burning inventory. Pooh Bear is in a stronger position than probably anyone else. That is truly frightening

 

[rmarion]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1620855071083999234

hey Look a China spy Balloon...

 

[was thatguy]

hey Look a China spy Balloon...

“You’re all communist sympathizers!!”
281.8 and company.

 

[monkeyswrench]

“You’re all communist sympathizers!!”
281.8 and company.

I'm in the middle of a moral dilemma...
Back China, and that's just capitalism.

Back Ukraine, and that's somehow patriotism.

Back Russia, and that's communism.

Sit on my porch, waiting for the shit show, and that's extremism...
It's all just a form of schism, now isn't it?

 

[was thatguy]

I'm in the middle of a moral dilemma...
Back China, and that's just capitalism.

Back Ukraine, and that's somehow patriotism.

Back Russia, and that's communism.

Sit on my porch, waiting for the shit show, and that's extremism...
It's all just a form of schism, now isn't it?

I back realism.

 

[monkeyswrench]

I back realism.

These days that seems to be regarded as having extremist views...The Ministry of Truth may need to speak with you

 

[Looking Glass]

These days that seems to be regarded as having extremist views...The Ministry of Truth may need to speak with you

According to some, "Upstairs" It's/We are a "Cancer"-

 

[Taboma]

I'm in the middle of a moral dilemma...
Back China, and that's just capitalism.

Back Ukraine, and that's somehow patriotism.

Back Russia, and that's communism.

Sit on my porch, waiting for the shit show, and that's extremism...
It's all just a form of schism, now isn't it?

Is 'None of the above' not worthy of consideration ?