Pilots on the Board

[Sleek-Jet]

This is what "worries" me too. I like to overthink things.. But then I watch videos of Matt Guthmiller flying around in foreign countries and he just figures out things on the spot with the help of ATC. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing, he seems kinda reckless.

Don't let YouTube fool you, those Around-the-World flights take a lot of planning and logistics. It might look off the cuff but is not.
I start looking at things a couple weeks before a flight to a new airport. Google Earth is great. I know guys that fire up the Flight sim and go practice approaches before hand. You can't be to prepared really. Now a place I've gone to before, sometimes it is just a check of the weather and off we go!

 

[whiteworks]

Did you get the wiggle as the tires broke ground? That is a lot of weight out there on the end of the wings.

My mind was super preoccupied with the thought of a power failure on take off, if it did wiggle I didn’t notice it

 

[t&y]

Stat's for far:

Just under $6K invested so far.
15 flights all in Piper Cherokee's or Warrior.
23.5 hours of flight training plus about 10 ground.
55 Landings and somewhere between 60 and 65 takeoff's.
A few soft field take off's and one short field (simulated on a main runway).
I've practiced all the basic maneuvers required for the Check Ride and up next will be transitioning from basic maneuvers to cross country type flights. I'm using a combination of on-line ground school, the Jeppesen private pilot book, and one on one in person ground school to really get a hold of the concepts.

Honestly at this point if he told me go for solo work in the pattern I'd be comfortable doing it. But I've told him once he feels like I'm ready for solo he should wait another day or two as I'm not in a hurry.

Last time up, my steep right turns were spot-on and lefts were losing altitude... time before that it was exactly opposite . Going to start adding a couple turns of trim up on the second go around (right or left). Turns out of maneuvers to the proper heading is making way more sense and I'm usually within 5- 10 degree's... but we have a running joke that we are striving for excellence, not just passing the test. My turns around a point and S turns over a road are getting way better, but still not where I would want them.

CFI has a rule of not only passing ground, but passing his own version of ground prior to a solo and I'm perfectly fine with that. Sounds like before solo I'll go up with at least one other different instructor to get a different perspective on area's of improvement.

It's still a blast every time. I've been going three flights a week for the last month and that has made a huge difference in confidence and understanding what and why the plane is doing what it is doing. Still a ton to learn. Plan is once I'm cleared for solo's I'll be stopping by on the way home from work at least once every other week for pattern work along with my regularly scheduled training flights.

Radio traffic for me hasn't ever really been a big deal as I'm used to non-stop traffic and picking out targeted or call sign traffic for specific communication. Now If I could just remember to write down all the local frequency's, I'd be able to get ahead and not have to rely on him to tell me the numbers. I'm not using Foreflight yet, everything is paper or memory up to this point.

I'm trying to finish up my PPL with this guy before he goes off to the airlines. Looks like the timing will be just right. At this rate, I'm guessing sometime early next year would be a check ride. If he were sticking around, I'd jump right into Instrument with him, but his goal is the big airlines.

It has been a great experience so far. Definitely looking forward to some fly in meet ups with pilots on the boards in the future.

 

[whiteworks]

Some new toys showed up, some assembly required

I’ve been keeping this on the down low for a while, but it’s about time to start getting the word out on this new venture. My partner and I purchased two Redbird FMX full motion flight simulators and will be opening a simulator training facility at KCCB around November 1.

Our mission statement:

“To create accessibility to advanced aviation training devices (AATD) to the general aviation community.”

The facility will have two simulators and two briefing rooms that can be scheduled for your training needs. Bring your own CFI type deal, or come in on your own and train as you see fit. These machines are certified by the FAA and have a current LOA outlining specifically what you can log on them. They are capable of simulating up to 25 different aircraft and configurations. Immediately we will have two 172 with G1000 configurations, 182 with six pack. We will be adding a multi configuration immediately, either Barron or Diamond. I’d like to add a 206, A36, and SR22 asap, we’ll see what demands there are and how to strategically meet them.

It’s gonna take me a minute to get these assembled and up and running, as well as the rest of facility operational how I want it, for now a little sneak peek. With a little luck we’ll make a couple bucks and help people pursue their aviation dreams.

 

[Sleek-Jet]

So what are you going to charge per hour for the Redbirds?

 

[Rvrluvr]

Stat's for far:

Just under $6K invested so far.
15 flights all in Piper Cherokee's or Warrior.
23.5 hours of flight training plus about 10 ground.
55 Landings and somewhere between 60 and 65 takeoff's.
A few soft field take off's and one short field (simulated on a main runway).
I've practiced all the basic maneuvers required for the Check Ride and up next will be transitioning from basic maneuvers to cross country type flights. I'm using a combination of on-line ground school, the Jeppesen private pilot book, and one on one in person ground school to really get a hold of the concepts.

Honestly at this point if he told me go for solo work in the pattern I'd be comfortable doing it. But I've told him once he feels like I'm ready for solo he should wait another day or two as I'm not in a hurry.

Last time up, my steep right turns were spot-on and lefts were losing altitude... time before that it was exactly opposite . Going to start adding a couple turns of trim up on the second go around (right or left). Turns out of maneuvers to the proper heading is making way more sense and I'm usually within 5- 10 degree's... but we have a running joke that we are striving for excellence, not just passing the test. My turns around a point and S turns over a road are getting way better, but still not where I would want them.

CFI has a rule of not only passing ground, but passing his own version of ground prior to a solo and I'm perfectly fine with that. Sounds like before solo I'll go up with at least one other different instructor to get a different perspective on area's of improvement.

It's still a blast every time. I've been going three flights a week for the last month and that has made a huge difference in confidence and understanding what and why the plane is doing what it is doing. Still a ton to learn. Plan is once I'm cleared for solo's I'll be stopping by on the way home from work at least once every other week for pattern work along with my regularly scheduled training flights.

Radio traffic for me hasn't ever really been a big deal as I'm used to non-stop traffic and picking out targeted or call sign traffic for specific communication. Now If I could just remember to write down all the local frequency's, I'd be able to get ahead and not have to rely on him to tell me the numbers. I'm not using Foreflight yet, everything is paper or memory up to this point.

I'm trying to finish up my PPL with this guy before he goes off to the airlines. Looks like the timing will be just right. At this rate, I'm guessing sometime early next year would be a check ride. If he were sticking around, I'd jump right into Instrument with him, but his goal is the big airlines.

It has been a great experience so far. Definitely looking forward to some fly in meet ups with pilots on the boards in the future.

Dont let him milk you.

For ground school look up shepard practist tests online……you’re welcome

 

[whiteworks]

So what are you going to charge per hour for the Redbirds?

Have not really nailed down pricing, but we’re thinking around $100.00 per hour or $500.00 per month for unlimited time.

 

[t&y]

Dont let him milk you.

For ground school look up shepard practist tests online……you’re welcome

He's actually telling me I'm farther along than I think I am...lol. I'll will check out those practice tests for sure.

 

[Orange Juice]

He's actually telling me I'm farther along than I think I am...lol. I'll will check out those practice tests for sure.

Keep moving forward. Get your solo over with. Get your cross country‘s over with, and get you private.
You’ll get a lot of seat time with the instructor, when you start practicing holds during your instrument training.
I solo’d at 9.5 hours, out of Corona (1996). I had passed my written exam a week before, and had my physical complete.

Flight Training

aerobatics.com

 

[Sleek-Jet]

Have not really nailed down pricing, but we’re thinking around $100.00 per hour or $500.00 per month for unlimited time.

That would be attractive pricing, especially for the motion sim. I've looked for places around here and all but one are tied to a flight school and costs are $140+/hr, and that is for a Redbird PCTAD on a table top, though the price includes an instructor.

The one stand alone sim outfit is run out of a crappy office building. You reserve your time and get a code texted to you for the door. You can bring your own instructor or just fly the sim for currency. Last I checked he was charging $120/hr for the sim. The place is rough with dirty walls and carpets. I mean you can still see the outlines from the cubicles that were there before, LOL

There is still a stigma out there about these TAD sims for GA, a lot of pilots I talk to consider them games and not a tool. Older pilots more than younger pilots, which is obvious. I think there is a market for sim training and recurrence, somewhere below the Simcom and Flight Safety levels and above the flight schools.

 

[whiteworks]

That would be attractive pricing, especially for the motion sim. I've looked for places around here and all but one are tied to a flight school and costs are $140+/hr, and that is for a Redbird PCTAD on a table top, though the price includes an instructor.

The one stand alone sim outfit is run out of a crappy office building. You reserve your time and get a code texted to you for the door. You can bring your own instructor or just fly the sim for currency. Last I checked he was charging $120/hr for the sim. The place is rough with dirty walls and carpets. I mean you can still see the outlines from the cubicles that were there before, LOL

There is still a stigma out there about these TAD sims for GA, a lot of pilots I talk to consider them games and not a tool. Older pilots more than younger pilots, which is obvious. I think there is a market for sim training and recurrence, somewhere below the Simcom and Flight Safety levels and above the flight schools.

A couple thoughts on why we pulled the trigger on this and the facility concept.

Same deal out here, most if not all of these motion sims are tied up in the back room of high dollar 141 programs. The ones that are accessible really want you to use there CFI’s which I understand as they are trying to make money and keep their operation simple.

From the perspective of an all inclusive flightschool that has these sims integrated into their curriculum there are some major benefits, one being that they can get there students to PPL check ride in 40-50 hours of actual in air time. That’s supplementing 35 hours in the sim and keep hours off there aircraft.

An airplane is a terrible classroom and having the ability to hit the pause button when a student is having problems with a concept, unpacking everything that’s going on, rewinding the situation and then taking another run at it until the student gets it has pretty huge benefit. Using the actual plane to showcase the skills successful allows the student to keep up the cadence of their pursuit.

The ability to log 50 hours towards commercial and a monthly unlimited time on sim package will allow a student to save close to $8K in airplane costs

The ability to operate a sim well is actually a skil that airline pilots need to have as all their training and testing is done on sims. Those skills will be valuable to maintain employment over the long haul.

I think the biggest push back we’re gonna have is from time building CFI’s who’s only real interest is hitting 1500 hours and moving on to the airlines, as they cannot log flight time while instructing in a sim.

Lots of pros and I could go on about more of them, aswell there are some cons and at a certain point we just decided to roll the dice and setup something different and see what happens

Ideally the facility will be unmanned, there will be an on boarding process that will allow members/users to have 24 hours access. All scheduling and billing will be done online through a flight-school software. The facility is clean, sterile, and all business, get in handle your business and get out. It’s not set up to be a hangout, but more so modeled and designed as a global training facility that you would find in any military or major commercial operation. If all goes well the job will be putting asses in seats, and conducting effective on boarding processes. We really don’t want to have employees as people sorta tend to complicate things.

Making some progress on the sim installation, slow and steady LOL

 

[t&y]

@whiteworks KCCB isn't too far out of my way, and for the cost savings after PPL looks like it would be a great option.

Are you going to have a CFI available for students that need one, or will this be a BYO CFI only type deal when needed?

 

[whiteworks]

@whiteworks KCCB isn't too far out of my way, and for the cost savings after PPL looks like it would be a great option.

Are you going to have a CFI available for students that need one, or will this be a BYO CFI only type deal when needed?

For now we will not have a CFI available, however I would imagine as time goes on there may be some CFI’s that gravitate towards this facility that we would refer out to people who need one.

There is some pretty cool stuff that you can do in these sims, for instance you can connect your foreflight to it and it will work like it does when you’re flying. Another cool thing is there is live ATC 3rd party service that you can use while in the sim. Here is a link to the ATC service.

Homepage - PilotEdge.net

PilotEdge: professional air traffic control for flight simulators. See other aircraft, and hear other pilots on the radio. Put on your headset, dial up ground, and call for taxi. It's that easy.

www.pilotedge.net

I’m there pretty much all the time right now putting this place together if you want to stop by and check it out you’re more than welcome. We should have some sims running next week.

 

[whiteworks]

Been busting ass for months on this new gig, today we started flipping switches and things happened. Our simulator test pilot is a 10 year old aviation geek named Adam. He beat these sims like they owed him money, straight up no fucks given LOL.

I saw it all come together today, everything’s gonna be okay.

My partner and I hopped in one of the 310’s, I pushed the sticks forward and pulled the yoke back, up we went. Headed out to Catalina, at 4500’ just above a cloud bank that was pushing inland, found a hole and circled down to about 1200’, rounded the south end and headed up the back side then threaded the needle through the isthmus. Found another hole and popped up above the clouds back home.

I’m not gonna lie, flying over the ocean with a 32 year veteran coast guard pilot adds a different level to the game. Long story short, I now remember exactly why we’re doing this new business.

 

[t&y]

Having a blast still. Did some VOR the other day, pretty cool technology considering it's been around for almost a century. Getting ready to finish up ground over the next few weeks then concentrate on cross country. My in air time is far ahead of my ground time so I need to catch that up. Guess I need to read a bit more... lol.

Solo is on the horizon. Learning ForeFlight and will have some sectionals for back up. My plan is to have the old school way of doing things down before I really rely on foreflight for anything. But I gotta admit, it is a pretty cool tool considering half the time up there you can see the planes on the IPad but good luck spotting them in air.

 

[mesquito_creek]

Having a blast still. Did some VOR the other day, pretty cool technology considering it's been around for almost a century. Getting ready to finish up ground over the next few weeks then concentrate on cross country. My in air time is far ahead of my ground time so I need to catch that up. Guess I need to read a bit more... lol.

Solo is on the horizon. Learning ForeFlight and will have some sectionals for back up. My plan is to have the old school way of doing things down before I really rely on foreflight for anything. But I gotta admit, it is a pretty cool tool considering half the time up there you can see the planes on the IPad but good luck spotting them in air.

I found that using a flight simulator MSFS on the computer was a great way to learn how to use the different avionics, radios and VOR etc…. It’s no replacement for the real thing but it’s a lot cheaper to sit there and read the garmin 430/530 manuals or whatever and then see how each function works versus paying for that in flight time.

You can actually hook up foreflight to MSFS and learn how it works also…

I don’t like flying MSFS because it doesn’t feel that similar, but one you are in the fake air you can really focus on other things that you can’t while flying for real. I mean you can pause MSFS and go read the POH or study the VFR chart and then come back and apply it to the sim.

I was pretty scared of leaning out the engine until i practiced the procedure on the sim a few times… now I am a leaning machine 100 ROP!

 

[Sleek-Jet]

MSFS is a great procedure trainer. I use an old version to practice approaches and what not. Can't log it but the basics are there.

 

[rrrr]

MSFS is a great procedure trainer. I use an old version to practice approaches and what not. Can't log it but the basics are there.

Can you still land at Meigs?

I haven't stopped hoping former Mayor Daley gets hit by a bus.

 

[Sleek-Jet]

Can you still land at Meigs?

I haven't stopped hoping former Mayor Daley gets hit by a bus.

No, they removed that from MSFS shortly after dipshit bulldozed the place.

 

[Sleek-Jet]

It was cloudy today...

 

[whiteworks]

I’ve been playing around on our sims this past week as we get everything operational for a soft opening. We’re gonna take the month of November to start bringing people in who are interested and figuring out how we are going to run the facility. We have ideas on how we would like it to work and will try to follow that plan, however I know that some things will proceed by their own design.

I had a couple of the local youngsters in the other night, both 1000 hour CFI’s and cool nerds. They were all ready yo start modifying the Redbirds to have better graphics, jigawatt/gigawatt this and that, nerd shit. Then I politely reminded them that this is a certified piece of equipment and modifying its configuration would void that certification. They are video game kids who are used to modifying gaming rigs LOL

I hopped on the sim the other night and flew out to @Deckin Around desert property. His place doesn’t show up on the sim, which lets me know that the graphics program is 10+ years old. It doesn’t matter for training purposes, but it’s something I’ve noticed. It was a cool flight, about 40 minutes total sim time flying up cajon pass and across the desert. I landed at our local dirt strip up there, it was rad. I can get out there in 30 minutes in a Bonana or Barron flying the same route. The 172 on the sim is cool to train with, will be adding some other aircraft configuration as demands present themselves.

Anyone around who want to hop on one and try it out let me know and we’ll make it happen, Pilot or not, all are welcome.

 

[t&y]

@whiteworks Do you have a program for Piper Cherokee's?

 

[whiteworks]

@whiteworks Do you have a program for Piper Cherokee's?

The way the Sim is built it has an acrylic dash panel that sits on top of two screens, this panel unbolts and you swap out other panels that have the plane and avionics package designed into them with Al buttons and dials in correct places. Each acrylic dash/aircraft configuration is $5k. Currently I have two 172 analog panels, 3 172 g1000 panels, and a DA 42 g1000 panel and multi throttle controller on the way. There are Piper variants available, attached is a link to Redbirds site for this model sim, scroll down and you will see all the single models with analog configuration, you can click on single analog, single glass, multi analog, and multi glass to see all the variants.

I will be down at the facility today pushing buttons and breaking things if you or anyone else wants to stop by, PM and set up a time.

FMX

The Redbird FMX is a superior-quality, full motion, feature-rich Advanced Aviation Training Device priced with real-world flight training organizations in mind.

simulators.redbirdflight.com

 

[Sleek-Jet]

I think the younger pilots initial reaction is something that will have to be kept tabs on. By that I mean it will be easy for pilots not to treat the sims as a tool but more of a game, get the right pilot/instructor in the equipment and it becomes; "Let's see if we can break the sim".

 

[whiteworks]

I think the younger pilots initial reaction is something that will have to be kept tabs on. By that I mean it will be easy for pilots not to treat the sims as a tool but more of a game, get the right pilot/instructor in the equipment and it becomes; "Let's see if we can break the sim".

So far it’s been interesting putting people in the sims and seeing what they do. The older experienced pilots treat it like a plane, I have to prod them to attempt a stall or spin. The two younger pilots/CFI’s are playing with them to see what they can and can’t do, as well they are not paying or being paid right now so I encourage them to “push buttons and break things”

The students we have put in them treat them like aircraft and don’t want to break things, and then there is our 10 year old aviation geek who beats them like they owe him money and flys like a redbull air race guy

It will be interesting to see how everything plays out, but I think you’re right about the younger folks, and especially those that are not involved in pilot training of any sort.

 

[t&y]

Time not working or handling stuff is short for me at the moment. But I'm thinking in the future it would be a great tool to keep sharp on the basic maneuvers while throwing in some emergency landing type stuff over the common practice areas I'm always in. Haven't had any major misses on the simulated emergency landings, but can't real touch the plane down in real life off runway just for practice

I might swing by sometime over the next couple weeks depending on how things go.

 

[whiteworks]

Time not working or handling stuff is short for me at the moment. But I'm thinking in the future it would be a great tool to keep sharp on the basic maneuvers while throwing in some emergency landing type stuff over the common practice areas I'm always in. Haven't had any major misses on the simulated emergency landings, but can't real touch the plane down in real life off runway just for practice

I might swing by sometime over the next couple weeks depending on how things go.

I know the guy with the keys to the joint, odd hours are fine. Come check it out and see if it fits into your program.

 

[t&y]

Off this morning for a little training flight in the Cherokee 180. That plane moves compared to the 140's I'm used to. If the plan is still in place, we'll be cruising over Corona this morning at about 0920'ish, then down to Dana Point for some sight seeing and basic maneuver review. Getting a little more V.O.R. time and back for some landings. Should be a blast.

 

[Cobalt232]

Should be a great day for flying. Nice and cool for the 180.

 

[Sleek-Jet]

Off this morning for a little training flight in the Cherokee 180. That plane moves compared to the 140's I'm used to. If the plan is still in place, we'll be cruising over Corona this morning at about 0920'ish, then down to Dana Point for some sight seeing and basic maneuver review. Getting a little more V.O.R. time and back for some landings. Should be a blast.

A Cherokee 180 or Archer makes a great personal airplane. If you put the wheel pants on them they can scoot along in the 125-127 KTAS range, they haul a decent load and have a bullet proof engine.

 

[whiteworks]

It’s been pretty cool having people come through to tour and demo facility during this soft opening period. We’re ready to hand feed some customers through the facility, rates are as follows for time being.

$100.00 per hour

Or

$490.00 for 25 hours in a 30 day period, no rollover or sharing time

That’s sim time for under $20.00 an hour if someone wanted to purchase more time within that 30 day period it will be on individual situation and we’ll play ball.

 

[Mhemperly]

That’s the nicest general aviation sim facility I’ve seen in a long time! Good work! We need more good GA schools!

Here’s a little motivation picture chasing the sunset from 45,000 in the PC-24! Enjoy, fly safe all!

 

[rrrr]

That’s the nicest general aviation sim facility I’ve seen in a long time! Good work! We need more good GA schools!
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Here’s a little motivation picture chasing the sunset from 45,000 in the PC-24! Enjoy, fly safe all!

Have you landed it on dirt yet?

 

[Mhemperly]

Have you landed it on dirt yet?

Not yet!! Im itching to though! Just short fields! We go in and out of 3000’ regularly (that’s short for a jet). I can get it on and stopped in less then a 1000’ when it’s cool out and we’re light.

 

[whiteworks]

That’s the nicest general aviation sim facility I’ve seen in a long time! Good work! We need more good GA schools!
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Here’s a little motivation picture chasing the sunset from 45,000 in the PC-24! Enjoy, fly safe all!

Thanks for the compliment. That’s a whole bunch of badass right there. What’s the cruise speed of that thing?

 

[Wheeler]

Off this morning for a little training flight in the Cherokee 180. That plane moves compared to the 140's I'm used to. If the plan is still in place, we'll be cruising over Corona this morning at about 0920'ish, then down to Dana Point for some sight seeing and basic maneuver review. Getting a little more V.O.R. time and back for some landings. Should be a blast.

Saw this yesterday and thought of this post. The plane was heading for Wickenburg for fresh paint. The owner recently sold his twin Comanche and picked this up.

 

[Sleek-Jet]

What a piece of shit, I mean the ADF doesn't even work...

 

[Wheeler]

What a piece of shit, I mean the ADF doesn't even work...

but it's got 180 hp under the cowl.

 

[Sleek-Jet]

I'm also digging the original DG from 1958. She's a survivor, I'll say that.

 

[mesquito_creek]

I had an opportunity at a mint Comanche 250 in the hangar next door that the 80 year old owner was hanging up his license due to medical… the $9000 a year insurance killed the deal. I will need to spend about 20k in IFR training and another 100 hours with IFR to get that insurance somewhat affordable.

 

[Sleek-Jet]

Hey Dylan...

This 1959 Cessna 310C’s Speed and Useful Load Make It an ‘AircraftForSale’ Top Pick

Among light twins, the Cessna 310 has long been a favorite because of its performance and sleek appearance.

www.flyingmag.com

Nice looking 310C for sale in Wisconsin

 

[t&y]

Saw this yesterday and thought of this post. The plane was heading for Wickenburg for fresh paint. The owner recently sold his twin Comanche and picked this up.

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Got to fly one of those already. Nice glide in ground effect. One of my better landings so far.

 

[whiteworks]

Hey Dylan...

This 1959 Cessna 310C’s Speed and Useful Load Make It an ‘AircraftForSale’ Top Pick

Among light twins, the Cessna 310 has long been a favorite because of its performance and sleek appearance.

www.flyingmag.com

Nice looking 310C for sale in Wisconsin

My partner said he’s looking for B models, engines are about timed out on this 310 also. $25k high on the ask was the talk around the table on this one.

 

[Orange Juice]

Get your reservation.

**Las Vegas Area Airports – Prior Permission and Landing Fees**

One of our members gave us a heads up that the Las Vegas area airports (KLAS, KHND and KVGT) will require a reservation/prior permission and a $3,000 arrival fee for all general aviation traffic during the upcoming Formula 1 race (November 14 – 20). The arrival fee is non-refundable and applies from November 14 – 18. PPR reservations will not be completed until the fee is paid in full. Further research indicates that KLAS will require PPR for all GA traffic from October 5 to December 13 via NOTAM. This PPR and fee cycle will repeat for the Super Bowl – February 7 – 12, 2024.

We reached out to the AOPA Western Pacific Regional Manager, Jared Yoshiki, to get their feedback and he indicated that they had reached out to the FAA and Clark County to get some further information on the basis for these fees. We’ll provide an update once we get some information from Jared.

If you are planning to transit through the Las Vegas area during these events, please be sure to use all available information for your flight planning to avoid any PPR and fee surprises.

 

[Sleek-Jet]

My partner said he’s looking for B models, engines are about timed out on this 310 also. $25k high on the ask was the talk around the table on this one.

Gotcha... I thought he was looking for a C model. It must show considerably worse in person for the paint and interior to be rated 3 out of 10, per the ad. If that is the case I'd agree on the price.

 

[Mhemperly]

Thanks for the compliment. That’s a whole bunch of badass right there. What’s the cruise speed of that thing?

For a jet it’s not that fast… .74mach typically around 415 knots true. It’s a blast to fly!

 

[whiteworks]

Gotcha... I thought he was looking for a C model. It must show considerably worse in person for the paint and interior to be rated 3 out of 10, per the ad. If that is the case I'd agree on the price.

The photos looked good, but who knows how old they were, kinda like those realtor mugshots on the signs that show the prom king shot from highschool and some fat bald dude shows up to show you the place. The low scoring in the add brought up that analogy around the table

 

[whiteworks]

For a jet it’s not that fast… .74mach typically around 415 knots true. It’s a blast to fly!

What a dog , lucky bastard.

 

[t&y]

Get your reservation.

**Las Vegas Area Airports – Prior Permission and Landing Fees**

One of our members gave us a heads up that the Las Vegas area airports (KLAS, KHND and KVGT) will require a reservation/prior permission and a $3,000 arrival fee for all general aviation traffic during the upcoming Formula 1 race (November 14 – 20). The arrival fee is non-refundable and applies from November 14 – 18. PPR reservations will not be completed until the fee is paid in full. Further research indicates that KLAS will require PPR for all GA traffic from October 5 to December 13 via NOTAM. This PPR and fee cycle will repeat for the Super Bowl – February 7 – 12, 2024.

We reached out to the AOPA Western Pacific Regional Manager, Jared Yoshiki, to get their feedback and he indicated that they had reached out to the FAA and Clark County to get some further information on the basis for these fees. We’ll provide an update once we get some information from Jared.

If you are planning to transit through the Las Vegas area during these events, please be sure to use all available information for your flight planning to avoid any PPR and fee surprises.

Guess I won't be doing a long distance ride into there around those dates. Never really wanted to be around Vegas at all honestly. We'll go north or head to Prescott if I need to go that far out instead of a multi-stop loop.

 

[530RL]

I had an opportunity at a mint Comanche 250 in the hangar next door that the 80 year old owner was hanging up his license due to medical… the $9000 a year insurance killed the deal. I will need to spend about 20k in IFR training and another 100 hours with IFR to get that insurance somewhat affordable.

Consider liability only and self insure hull.

My liability is about 6k year. The hull would be over 120,000.00. If I wad it up, I’ll probably be dead so hull becomes less material as I will not need a replacement.