OCM Offshore Custom Marine Lake Havasu City AZ

[rivrrts429]

I personally know two individuals that got sued (successfully) by a hunt booking agent over on a hunting forum. Even though it's the internet, you still need to be cautious on what you say and accuse folks of.

This thread is shrinking in post counts by the second [emoji2]

 

[crzy2bealive]

And so it continues!

 

[RogerThat99]

RD got demoted to "manager"?

They made RD sound like the Manager of the local Taco Bell (or insert any fast food joint).

 

[rivrrts429]

They made RD sound like the Manager of the local Taco Bell (or insert any fast food joint).

TBI is gonna have a field day with that one lol

 

[RogerThat99]

Seriously??????:yikes

WTF deal with a company (any company) that has this kind of history when there are others that don't??? IMO this kind of thinking in general is why there are programs like American Greed on TV............Fool me once, shame on you.....fool me twice, shame on ME............I'm sorry but in my experience leopards don't change their spots......good luck with this though I hope it works out for you cuz...............we can always use the drama around this place

I think what rmarion is getting at is....

There is a big difference between someone operating a business that runs into serious cash flow problems and is doing questionable financial tactics trying to hold on, vs. someone who has a criminal mind and sets out to defraud and steal money from people from the get go. My opinion is that Tim falls into the former scenario (cash flow problem and not a criminal). I think Tim would prefer to run the business where people get paid immediately, but with the overhead and cash flow issues isn't able to do that. I am not saying it is the right thing to do, but is is far different than being a criminal at heart. Once again, just my opinion of the situation.

 

[BHC Vic]

Wait rd getting sued?

 

[Sleek-Jet]

I personally know two individuals that got sued (successfully) by a hunt booking agent over on a hunting forum. Even though it's the internet, you still need to be cautious on what you say and accuse folks of.

Posting an opinion on a forum does not open you to libel.

If anyone gets anything resembling a lawsuit from this guy, contact Ken White at Popehat.

 

[MSum661]

Wait rd getting sued?

Just my opinion and my right, but I highly doubt it.
Libel suits are hardly ever won and even if so the Supreme Court tends to overturn most of them.

 

[BigCity47]

 

[rmarion]

I think what rmarion is getting at is....

There is a big difference between someone operating a business that runs into serious cash flow problems and is doing questionable financial tactics trying to hold on, vs. someone who has a criminal mind and sets out to defraud and steal money from people from the get go. My opinion is that Tim falls into the former scenario (cash flow problem and not a criminal). I think Tim would prefer to run the business where people get paid immediately, but with the overhead and cash flow issues isn't able to do that. I am not saying it is the right thing to do, but is is far different than being a criminal at heart. Once again, just my opinion of the situation.

Always protect yourself...... with any business's that you deal with....if your gonna sell anything toys with a broker KEEP YOUR PINK SLIP!!! that piece of paper is your ownership...... (if they want your pink, they must pay you 100% for it)

RT99...I aggree (BTW...it's just my opinion)

 

[Old Texan]

I think what rmarion is getting at is....

There is a big difference between someone operating a business that runs into serious cash flow problems and is doing questionable financial tactics trying to hold on, vs. someone who has a criminal mind and sets out to defraud and steal money from people from the get go. My opinion is that Tim falls into the former scenario (cash flow problem and not a criminal). I think Tim would prefer to run the business where people get paid immediately, but with the overhead and cash flow issues isn't able to do that. I am not saying it is the right thing to do, but is is far different than being a criminal at heart. Once again, just my opinion of the situation.

Being bad at business is one thing. Outright lying is another. From all I've read about this deal, he continually lied about payments. Plus everyone is left wondering where the money suddenly came from when he was "cornered". Is this clear capital or money owed to someone else?

His lying and misuse of funds are to me more criminal than just an inept businessman. I've seen many a small business that operates in a loose knit manner bordering on illegal and most times so called nice guys having a run of bad luck, turn out to be long term hucksters that only know one way to operate and it typically involves separating other people from their money. They literally can smile, look you in the eye, pick your pocket, and claim they're helping you out.

These guys play on sympathy from others and show complete lack of conscience. Normal folks could not sleep at night operating like the boat dealer has to this point. Maybe short of criminal at heart, but definitely far short of being a respectable, responsible human being.

And like you, this is just my opinion from 30,000 feet.:skull

 

[PVHCA]

LOL re the lawsuits, what fuckin attorney works for free for a guy with ZERO cash, no credibility, judgments looming, and his reputation? Good luck TIMMMMMMMMMMYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!

 

[Paul65k]

I think what rmarion is getting at is....

There is a big difference between someone operating a business that runs into serious cash flow problems and is doing questionable financial tactics trying to hold on, vs. someone who has a criminal mind and sets out to defraud and steal money from people from the get go. My opinion is that Tim falls into the former scenario (cash flow problem and not a criminal). I think Tim would prefer to run the business where people get paid immediately, but with the overhead and cash flow issues isn't able to do that. I am not saying it is the right thing to do, but is is far different than being a criminal at heart. Once again, just my opinion of the situation.

Fair enough I never thought or said he was a criminal at heart.....not what I was saying at all.......still doesn't change the fact that I will not do business there.......thank goodness that's my right, if you want to, I completely support your right to do so:thumbup:

 

[OldSchoolBoats]

Damn.......just opened up the lounge and this thread is still going....lol

 

[Nord]

There is no slander when the statements are true. I believe OCM has 30 days to pay the seller their money. Both of these guys were beyond that. That's why this got so big. Also if they investigate these wire confirmation #s and they are not real, there are no lies there either. No lies no case.

Unless Dave has been duping us the whole time

Glad these two got paid. Scary deal for the both of them no doubt. Not sure if anyone else is even owed any money at this point. So saying there is another Peter or Paul is not fact until someone else comes forward.

 

[Taboma]

LOL re the lawsuits, what fuckin attorney works for free for a guy with ZERO cash, no credibility, judgments looming, and his reputation? Good luck TIMMMMMMMMMMYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!

Perhaps a fucking attorney who had his boat sold under consignment or is otherwise owed money

My X wife has owned a court reporter / deposition reporting business forever, of course all her clients are attorneys. Her collection stories read just like this thread

 

[throttle]

They made RD sound like the Manager of the local Taco Bell (or insert any fast food joint).

Don't forget to tip him when asking for hot sauce.

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

Posting an opinion on a forum does not open you to libel.

If anyone gets anything resembling a lawsuit from this guy, contact Ken White at Popehat.

I didn't say that. An opinion is one thing, but stating your opinion as a fact isn't opinion.

My point is, why expose yourself to some BS lawsuit for no reason other than to post on a thread?

But don't let me stop you.

 

[Enen]

Just my opinion and my right, but I highly doubt it.
Libel suits are hardly ever won and even if so the Supreme Court tends to overturn most of them.

You have to be able to afford to pay lawyers to pursue someone in a law suit.

 

[Hammer]

The fact that he is willing to sue the members here for Libel should tell you what kind of person Tim is. Surprised he's getting a pass from some of you. I liked him and he was always cool with me, but this whole deal plus the libel lawsuits has changed my opinion of him completely.

 

[Stainless]

River Tim's Place :yikes

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

You have to be able to afford to pay lawyers to pursue someone in a law suit.

You also need to defend frivolous lawsuits. Time and money. You can't just ignore them.

 

[Old Texan]

The fact that he is willing to sue the members here for Libel should tell you what kind of person Tim is. Surprised he's getting a pass from some of you. I liked him and he was always cool with me, but this whole deal plus the libel lawsuits has changed my opinion of him completely.

Careful Hammer, your statement is setting you up for a "Hurt my feelings" suit......:skull

To me his threats show he cannot distinguish right from wrong. Those kind of people need to be given a wide berth and avoided at all costs.

 

[Hammer]

Careful Hammer, your statement is setting you up for a "Hurt my feelings" suit......:skull

To me his threats show he cannot distinguish right from wrong. Those kind of people need to be given a wide berth and avoided at all costs.

You can sue for hurt feelings? TBI you are in for a world of hurt !

 

[RitcheyRch]

Wow, I could make millions suing you all. :lmao

Careful Hammer, your statement is setting you up for a "Hurt my feelings" suit......:skull

To me his threats show he cannot distinguish right from wrong. Those kind of people need to be given a wide berth and avoided at all costs.

 

[That Guy]

Seriously??????:yikes

WTF deal with a company (any company) that has this kind of history when there are others that don't??? IMO this kind of thinking in general is why there are programs like American Greed on TV............Fool me once, shame on you.....fool me twice, shame on ME............I'm sorry but in my experience leopards don't change their spots......good luck with this though I hope it works out for you cuz...............we can always use the drama around this p

My feelings exactly....:rolleyes

 

[Riverbound]

I told RD years ago something was off about him and that my gut instinct was that I wanted to punch him in the face multiple times. RD told me he was a good guy and I was just being "Billdo". I guess my gut feeling was right.

 

[River Lynchmob]

I told RD years ago something was off about him and that my gut instinct was that I wanted to punch him in the face multiple times. RD told me he was a good guy and I was just being "Billdo". I guess my gut feeling was right.

That doesn't change the fact that you were still just being Billdo [emoji16]

 

[Hammer]

I told RD years ago something was off about him and that my gut instinct was that I wanted to punch him in the face multiple times. RD told me he was a good guy and I was just being "Billdo". I guess my gut feeling was right.

When does your gut instinct not tell you to punch anyone in the face? [emoji14]

 

[RogerThat99]

Fair enough I never thought or said he was a criminal at heart.....not what I was saying at all.......still doesn't change the fact that I will not do business there.......thank goodness that's my right, if you want to, I completely support your right to do so:thumbup:

I know you weren't implying / saying that he is a criminal at heart. I also am not implying / saying that I would enter into a business arrangement with OCM. I think we are on the same page Paul.

 

[PVHCA]

I told RD years ago something was off about him and that my gut instinct was that I wanted to punch him in the face multiple times. RD told me he was a good guy and I was just being "Billdo". I guess my gut feeling was right.

I'd trust "that gut", LOL!!

 

[Riverbound]

When does your gut instinct not tell you to punch anyone in the face? [emoji14]

Surprisingly quite often.

 

[PVHCA]

So does this mean Tiiiiimmmmmyyyyy won't be coming on RDP to tell his side of the "bullshit"?

 

[BHC Vic]

Surprisingly quite often.

Don't punch me in the face [emoji4]

 

[That Guy]

Does anyone know if the "check" to Kurt was good? Hoping it's not just the next phase of bs.....

 

[blacksockdown]

I told RD years ago something was off about him and that my gut instinct was that I wanted to punch him in the face multiple times. RD told me he was a good guy and I was just being "Billdo". I guess my gut feeling was right.

lmao

 

[Universal Elements]

I told RD years ago something was off about him and that my gut instinct was that I wanted to punch him in the face multiple times. RD told me he was a good guy and I was just being "Billdo". I guess my gut feeling was right.

Never go against your gut instinct. Every time I did, I got burnt.

 

[Riverbound]

Don't punch me in the face [emoji4]

I'm too old for that stuff now [emoji17]

 

[Riverbound]

So does this mean Tiiiiimmmmmyyyyy won't be coming on RDP to tell his side of the "bullshit"?

He's to busy grasping at straws hoping he can get the libel suits going. Lol.


Don't sue me bro.....[emoji15][emoji15]

 

[Hammer]

I'm too old for that stuff now [emoji17]

Too much to lose. [emoji6]

 

[Universal Elements]

Lets just say (theoretically), someone may have the money. But since they have a judgement (maybe more than one) and cannot leave money in their accounts, the money could be in - lets say Panama. The money could be wired to another account in the states and then a third time to someone else. I have seen this done many times. Also, people that have these types of issues, usually have issues with the IRS & State Taxes.

 

[TBI]

Squished fish patty on a bun :thumbup:

 

[RogerThat99]

Don't punch me in the face [emoji4]

When does your gut instinct not tell you to punch anyone in the face? [emoji14]

I'd trust "that gut", LOL!!

Punch Violence In The Face...the slogan on some morning radio show.

 

[Danger Dave]

RD got demoted to "manager"?

What does that make Shintooo?

 

[Stainless]

Squished fish patty on a bun :thumbup:


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Dave McDonald

 

[Sleek-Jet]

I didn't say that. An opinion is one thing, but stating your opinion as a fact isn't opinion.

My point is, why expose yourself to some BS lawsuit for no reason other than to post on a thread?

But don't let me stop you.

The threat of such lawsuits chills speech.

Thank you for illustrating my point.

 

[HavasuHank]

What does that make Shintooo?

Fry cook? [emoji14]

 

[Ziggy]

Note that Tim keeps no money in his account because apparently so many have judgements against him and if he puts 2 cents in the bank must apply the judgement and take the money out. When the judge ordered him to appear in court with statements, this is known as a judgement debtor hearing where he must layout all of his assets. The judge then issues a court order seizing any assets. It can be a shell game.

Like I said, it's probably in some "Offshore" account in the Carribean.[emoji19] [emoji21]

 

[PVHCA]

Like I said, it's probably in some "Offshore" account in the Carribean.[emoji19] [emoji21]

Most of these banks require a minimum and I doubt he has the "minimum". He ain't rollin that large.

 

[saucedaddy]

Don't forget to tip him when asking for hot sauce.

Did you say "Hot Sauce"?:champagne: