Not a call out, but what dick

[2FORCEFULL]

I would just push the button on my Schiada extend the wings and fly over to the casino.. if we are talking fairy tales wth cheetahs running a 100, then I'm gonna chitty chitty bang bang my way to winning some more $$..

That said to answer the General jist of your post there isn't enough information there to answer your question. for general practice and to give you some answer I would say the person traveling (in my case me) across the lake instead of up or down the lake would give way.. without knowing the location of the cheetah in relevance to the Schiada it is impossible to know if it's passing port or starboard or who is stand on etc..

Hope that helps..

I just said cheetah cause of so many posts about DCB...

ok what if you were going up the lake from site six and the other boat was coming across the lake from Windsor...both at speed

 

[2FORCEFULL]

The Cheetah has to slow down because the bimini just blew off

you're wrong

 

[2FORCEFULL]

Yes

you are right...

 

[t&y]

Correct, but like Dave said, it's who is watching these threads.

This is Correct. So here is what I will do and I'm sure many others would offer the same

TO ANY AND ALL POLITICAL FIGURES AND OR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS READING THIS THREAD... I am Law Enforcement and you are welcome on my boat any time. I will gladly take you around Havasu in my boat and you can see just how 50 mph feels on a moderate sized boat. I'm sure there are some of you in high places that have never stepped foot on a boat let alone on Lake Havasu. Go for a ride and enjoy the experience before you decide we need to add new laws to govern a freedom that we, and many others, still cherish.

To really make this work it would be even better if some of the big boys showed up and offered a ride in a highend 100+ boat so they can see just how that feels too. Would probably be a big eye opener to many.:thumbsup

 

[RiverDave]

I just said cheetah cause of so many posts about DCB...

ok what if you were going up the lake from site six and the other boat was coming across the lake from Windsor...both at speed

Well Steve being that I am not a very aggressive driver if we came head to head, even if I was in the right I would back off, and long before it became an issue. I would probably either alter my speed slightly or course slightly so that we wouldn't cross each other's paths or "lines.". .

 

[Stainless]

I would just push the button on my Schiada extend the wings and fly over to the casino.. if we are talking fairy tales wth cheetahs running a 100, then I'm gonna chitty chitty bang bang my way to winning some more $$..

That said to answer the General jist of your post there isn't enough information there to answer your question. for general practice and to give you some answer I would say the person traveling (in my case me) across the lake instead of up or down the lake would give way.. without knowing the location of the cheetah in relevance to the Schiada it is impossible to know if it's passing port or starboard or who is stand on etc..

Hope that helps..

It depends who is in the 112* area.
In Steves scenario he would stand on.
If Steve was traveling north from say the Island and Dave was in his 112, he would be the give way vessel even though he's going 100 in his Cheetah.
The main topic I remember from boating class.

 

[Icky]

I think this whole thread should get deleted :thumbsup

 

[2FORCEFULL]

It depends who is in the 112* area.
In Steves scenario he would stand on.
If Steve was traveling north from say the Island and Dave was in his 112, he would be the give way vessel even though he's going 100 in his Cheetah.
The main topic I remember from boating class.
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the easy way to remember, same as a four way stop in a car... the boat to your right has right away ... doesn't matter what direction of travel.. the exception to the rule...

boat coming out of a wakeless, off a beach... which again is same as driving a car...people coming off private property must yield....

steve don't have a cheetah....not "LUCKY ENOUGH".. although I do get lucky... just not enough

 

[2FORCEFULL]

I think this whole thread should get deleted :thumbsup

just delete your post... it's that easy

 

[2FORCEFULL]

Well Steve being that I am not a very aggressive driver if we came head to head, even if I was in the right I would back off, and long before it became an issue. I would probably either alter my speed slightly or course slightly so that we wouldn't cross each other's paths or "lines.". .

that's as fucked up as sitting at a 4 way stop.. car to the right has right away... and sits there..you start to go finally and they start to go..

the rule of boating is you maintain your speed and direction..that way the stand down boat knows what to do and lets you pass...

education....

 

[2FORCEFULL]

This is a call out thread :thumbsup

All orange with some other colors? Name on the back or couldn't see it?

Totally reckless and uncalled for. There is no reason for a operator, rich or poor, big boat or small boat to pass that close. You should never lose sight of the river in front of you because of another boats roost from his jet or propeller's. What if a opposing boat cuts behind the boat that passed you, they can't see you, you can't see them, and BOOM you have a head on because someone is in a big hurry to pass you. It amazes me people cannot back off the throttle, get a better line and proceed. There are a lot of big cats on the water now running well beyond 140-150. Insurance is relatively easy to get now on those. That hasn't always been the case.

One bad accident up river will likely bring a lot of attention right back to a wakeless speed or the beginning of a speed limit on sections of the lake, then the entire lake.

there are lot of big cats running well beyond 140-150??? really???? are they jet boats or cheetahs

 

[Icky]

just delete your post... it's that easy

I haven't said anything that is going to effect the masses, there should be a members only area for all this kind of shit

 

[Groper]

Moderator please delete this thread.

 

[Headless hula]

It's kind of like walking into a restroom with poo smeared on the walls. Turn directly around and gtfo.

 

[RiverDave]

that's as fucked up as sitting at a 4 way stop.. car to the right has right away... and sits there..you start to go finally and they start to go..

the rule of boating is you maintain your speed and direction..that way the stand down boat knows what to do and lets you pass...

education....

Whatever you say Steve it's your world we are all just living in it..

 

[RiverDave]

I think this whole thread should get deleted :thumbsup

Moderator please delete this thread.

Now are you guys standing on or giving way? are you suggesting the deleting of the thread? the deleting of Steve? or the ole CEER tactic with deleting both?

 

[hallett21]

Moderator please delete this thread.

Please.

I am all for education but anyone that does not feel safe at Parker havasu mead etc does not need to boat there.

You have every right to find a lake that suites your weekend and holiday needs.

 

[2Driver]

Please.

I am all for education but anyone that does not feel safe at Parker havasu mead etc does not need to boat there.

You have every right to find a lake that suites your weekend and holiday needs.

LOL Bigger, faster, more expensive boat has always been the stand on vessel at the river.

 

[Magic34]

Just wait until the sail boaters move into Havasu and the river. Then you all are focked when that happens. You'll wish the jet skis were back towing 5 tubes at a time while filming video of wakesurfers they narrowly dodge while jumping the wake.

 

[Cray Paper]

First time I've posted in this thread but have read the entire thing. The OP approached this in the correct way, not calling the guy out, just wants the guy to know he crossed a line. Dumb asses cross lines daily in their car, probably multiple times a day and these "operators" of a vehicle are licensed and the roadways they travel are heavily regulated with all kinds of LEO as well as repercussions for stupidity, drunken / high driving etc. Yet it still happens. Boating is an entirely different world compared to the necessity of driving. People that own and operate boats obviously have some discretionary income, even the operator with a 12' skiff with a 20HP outboard or beater jet ski from 1987.

I live in WA State, and assume AZ has similar boating laws in place. I would venture to guess that there existing laws in place that would provide a LEO to stop the offender in the OP's post? Seems that you all don't need anymore laws, just the laws that are in place need to be enforced. I get that's a tall order for LEO and there is zero chance they can catch all offenders.

We all know todays younger generation of boaters are different than older generations and the water ways are more congested than ever. It really seems that boat and jet ski operators should go through a mandatory boaters education training and have the card on them before launching their vessel. If that happened (required in WA State) there would be no excuse for not knowing the laws. Should be required for rental users as well.

You guys don't need more laws, just need to enforce the ones already in place and require training and a state issued operators certification card. On busy weekends in WA State the CC stations a couple guys at the launch and they check every boat or jet ski that launches for the card as well as required gear. It's a slam dunk, pull in to the staging lane, toss all the life vests, PFD, plastic bag with airhorn, registration, insurance card, my boaters card etc on the dash, put the boat in the water, dude comes over, show him the baggy, he can see the other stuff and away we go. Takes less than 30 seconds. I have boated on Lake Washington for 5 years and never been pulled over by LEO. Checking everything that launches cuts down on LEO on the water trying to set up traps to funnel all boater through. They only have to look for the drunks and dipshits.

 

[Andy01]

there are lot of big cats running well beyond 140-150??? really???? are they jet boats or cheetahs

They're Cheetah Jets dummy, with two 6.2's in them.

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

Sounds like someone needed to get thumped in the parking lot.

 

[RiverDave]

Please.

I am all for education but anyone that does not feel safe at Parker havasu mead etc does not need to boat there.

You have every right to find a lake that suites your weekend and holiday needs.

I don't think boating in Parker or Havasu is dangerous or scary.. so I tend to agree with your sentiment.. close quarter boating in Parker isn't for everyone.. if someone feels unsafe in Havasu then I'm not sure where they would feel safe.. Havasu is like the ocean to me.. lol

 

[Always Floored]

At any time did you look around to see if anybody was coming up behind you? I'm not saying him passing you that fast is your fault. Obviously you can't control what he does. But was it really a big surprise that all the sudden someone was passing you?

All this talk about boats going too fast... Every captain of a boat out there should have their head on a swivel at all times so other boats on the water don't surprise you regardless of how fast they are going.

I always look around, it was 5:30ish on Monday, the crowds had gone home. The river was empty. My son was sleeping in the front seat, we were just cruising at about 35 mph, my wife was holding his head from the back seat. Then a close enough pass to drench our boat and everything in it.
Like I posted earlier, it was not his speed that was the problem, it was how close he was. There was plenty of room to open the gap. I love fast boats and would never want a speed limit on Havasu. I just stated this knowing how popular RDP is, and hoping the driver would see this and think twice next time.
I'm not the guy who went out in my mid twenties on someone else's boat and then went out and bought one. I'm 43 years old and have been boating for all 43 of them. Grew up in a boating family. I've owned many different types of boats. I know what I'm doing on the water.

Hearing was not an option, my Miller is loud as hell.

 

[Riverbound]

The Cheetah has to slow down because the bimini just blew off

They use 100mph rated drywall screws.

 

[WildWilly]

ok so now I'm trying to figure out if I'm smarter or dumber after reading all this.....

 

[AzGeo]

top speeds, boat performance, or driver experience have to do with 'driving in traffic with care and safety in mind' ?

Driving out on 'open waters', with no other vessels around is one of the best times to go boating .

HOWEVER, safely navigating waters with 'other traffic', seems to be the problem/question, here .

Some do not understand the idea of 'safe distances', nor 'safe maneuvers', when it comes to boating and often in their highway driving too .

Speed limits WILL NOT CURE this problem, but education and fines may make an impact .

We will NEVER have a law on the books that will make anyone 'logical, thoughtful, courteous, nor smart' .

We can have education and strict laws for those who possess 'little self control', and endanger others .

We don't need more laws, we need more common sense, education, and accountability for our stupid, selfish, drivers .

There are plenty of California lakes with 'speed limits', and this federal water way needs no more restrictions, just more common sense ...........

 

[t&y]

I always look around, it was 5:30ish on Monday, the crowds had gone home. The river was empty. My son was sleeping in the front seat, we were just cruising at about 35 mph, my wife was holding his head from the back seat. Then a close enough pass to drench our boat and everything in it.
Like I posted earlier, it was not his speed that was the problem, it was how close he was. There was plenty of room to open the gap. I love fast boats and would never want a speed limit on Havasu. I just stated this knowing how popular RDP is, and hoping the driver would see this and think twice next time.
I'm not the guy who went out in my mid twenties on someone else's boat and then went out and bought one. I'm 43 years old and have been boating for all 43 of them. Grew up in a boating family. I've owned many different types of boats. I know what I'm doing on the water.

Hearing was not an option, my Miller is loud as hell.

Great.. now they are going to suggest mufflers too:skull

 

[Heylam]

I would love to see how relying on common sense would work on the roadways. Lol. Common sense isn't so common.

 

[Always Floored]

Great.. now they are going to suggest mufflers too:skull

I like my ears ringing. ✌️

 

[MooreMoney]

First time I've posted in this thread but have read the entire thing. The OP approached this in the correct way, not calling the guy out, just wants the guy to know he crossed a line. Dumb asses cross lines daily in their car, probably multiple times a day and these "operators" of a vehicle are licensed and the roadways they travel are heavily regulated with all kinds of LEO as well as repercussions for stupidity, drunken / high driving etc. Yet it still happens. Boating is an entirely different world compared to the necessity of driving. People that own and operate boats obviously have some discretionary income, even the operator with a 12' skiff with a 20HP outboard or beater jet ski from 1987.

I live in WA State, and assume AZ has similar boating laws in place. I would venture to guess that there existing laws in place that would provide a LEO to stop the offender in the OP's post? Seems that you all don't need anymore laws, just the laws that are in place need to be enforced. I get that's a tall order for LEO and there is zero chance they can catch all offenders.

We all know todays younger generation of boaters are different than older generations and the water ways are more congested than ever. It really seems that boat and jet ski operators should go through a mandatory boaters education training and have the card on them before launching their vessel. If that happened (required in WA State) there would be no excuse for not knowing the laws. Should be required for rental users as well.

You guys don't need more laws, just need to enforce the ones already in place and require training and a state issued operators certification card. On busy weekends in WA State the CC stations a couple guys at the launch and they check every boat or jet ski that launches for the card as well as required gear. It's a slam dunk, pull in to the staging lane, toss all the life vests, PFD, plastic bag with airhorn, registration, insurance card, my boaters card etc on the dash, put the boat in the water, dude comes over, show him the baggy, he can see the other stuff and away we go. Takes less than 30 seconds. I have boated on Lake Washington for 5 years and never been pulled over by LEO. Checking everything that launches cuts down on LEO on the water trying to set up traps to funnel all boater through. They only have to look for the drunks and dipshits.

Why are younger generations different then Older generations? Sometimes I think people forget how they acted when they were younger. When boating in Havasu This past weekend I noticed 75% Of the boat driver and jet ski drivers were 40+ males. I also had more 40+ males spray my boat with water guns when going through the channel and pirates on Saturday. The young kids and young adults I would say no and they wouldn't. Say no to a older guy and they spray you twice as bad.

 

[Riverbound]

I would love to see how relying on common sense would work on the roadways. Lol. Common sense isn't so common.

What is it you propose that is not currently an existing law/regulation that will without a doubt make the water ways safer? I know where I stand on the viewpoint of more or less government involvement in our lives. I do always like hearing from a person with an opposing point of view explain their position in order to be able to look at something from both sides of the street.

 

[Always Floored]

Some people

 

[Headless hula]

They use 100mph rated drywall screws.

Hey, you got a link for those? I'm thinking about upgrading the Baja again this winter, and could really use some better fasteners...

 

[Riverbound]

Some people

Lol. Reading some of the posts in this thread make me laugh. I keep going back to a particular weekend when I ran into a group of people I knew, the passengers in the boat were absolutely frightened by the actions of the captain. Many of the passengers literally jumped ship into my boat as they refused to get back into the boat they came in out of pure fear. To this day said "captain" still sees himself as a safe operator but you will rarely if ever see any passengers on their boat. Please keep telling us how safe you are and everyone else is an idiot. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

 

[Always Floored]

Lol. Reading some of the posts in this thread make me laugh. I keep going back to a particular weekend when I ran into a group of people I knew, the passengers in the boat were absolutely frightened by the actions of the captain. Many of the passengers literally jumped ship into my boat as they refused to get back into the boat they came in out of pure fear. To this day said "captain" still sees himself as a safe operator but you will rarely if ever see any passengers on their boat. Please keep telling us how safe you are and everyone else is an idiot. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Your one of those huh.

 

[Riverbound]

Hey, you got a link for those? I'm thinking about upgrading the Baja again this winter, and could really use some better fasteners...

Just change your speedo to a water pickup speedo and your boat will run any speed you need it to. [emoji23] our ski nautique has these knobs you can adjust and it will "calibrate" the speedos. I can make the boat do "30mph" in a no wake zone. [emoji106]

 

[Headless hula]

Just change your speedo to a water pickup speedo and your boat will run any speed you need it to. [emoji23] our ski nautique has these knobs you can adjust and it will "calibrate" the speedos. I can make the boat do "30mph" in a no wake zone. [emoji106]

I'll see if I can find one of those!

Farkin cool man! Thanks!

 

[Flying_Lavey]

that's as fucked up as sitting at a 4 way stop.. car to the right has right away... and sits there..you start to go finally and they start to go..

the rule of boating is you maintain your speed and direction..that way the stand down boat knows what to do and lets you pass...

education....

I've never been to Havasu. But I have been on MANY lakes and from the experiences on those as well as what I've read on here makes me think it is safe to say therest is an established primary direction of of travel on the lake which is in a counter-clockwise rotation (i.e. if you are heading North you are on the east side of the lake, heading south you are on the West side). If I am wrong, please correct me. But, since there is already an established direction of travel, any vessel traffic going in a different direction (East or West) would be the stand down vessel. In every lake I have gone to this is stated, typically in fewer words, on the paperwork handed to you when you pay your launching/day use fee.

All those nautical rules and such are for body's of water that do not have otherwise established navigational standards.

And a horn blast between recreational boaters is the most absurd thing I've heard since they tried to enforce life vests at all times on Pine Flat lake.

 

[Riverbound]

Your one of those huh.

Not really. I have learned that many people have learned different ways and just because they aren't what I know or do doesn't make them wrong. On the flip side, just because I do things a certain way doesn't make them right either.

This about sums up what this thread is. Lol.

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[Riverbound]

Why are younger generations different then Older generations? Sometimes I think people forget how they acted when they were younger. When boating in Havasu This past weekend I noticed 75% Of the boat driver and jet ski drivers were 40+ males. I also had more 40+ males spray my boat with water guns when going through the channel and pirates on Saturday. The young kids and young adults I would say no and they wouldn't. Say no to a older guy and they spray you twice as bad.

Some people grow up and some people don't. Lol. I think back about the shit I did in my 20s and am baffled on two things how am I; 1) not dead. 2) didn't get my ass kicked much more often. A typical weekend for me back then would easily land me in jail today. Being blackout drunk driving the boat home, after clearing the bar in a bar brawl was a typical night out for me back then. Now I see the vibe changing at a bar and I'm looking for my DD, closing my tab and going home to crawl into bed before shit pops off. Lol.

 

[Riverbound]

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[Cray Paper]

Why are younger generations different then Older generations? Sometimes I think people forget how they acted when they were younger. When boating in Havasu This past weekend I noticed 75% Of the boat driver and jet ski drivers were 40+ males. I also had more 40+ males spray my boat with water guns when going through the channel and pirates on Saturday. The young kids and young adults I would say no and they wouldn't. Say no to a older guy and they spray you twice as bad.

I can only comment on my life experiences. I am 46 YO and when I see stupid shit happening that impacts other, it's almost always a younger person in their own little world causing the issue. Or a women behind the wheel. I also have a younger brother that is a tad over 30 YO and have formed an opinion of why he is the way he is and know that me and my 4 other siblings wore out my parents.

I know there are responsible, considerate younger people, but their are a large number that are not. The fucking media devise in their hand is more important than driving a 2 and a half ton object in close quarters at 50 - 70 MPH with numerous PEOPLE around them and when they rear-end the person in front of them they call it an accident. The thousands of people caught in the aftermath of their self induced "accident" are the furthest thing from their mind. Those thousands of commuters that should have an hour commute home to pick up children from day care, practice, make dinner etc, they don't even register to these people that can only think about that fucking devise and it's importance in THEIR LIFE at that moment that they choose. Same thing happens just walking down the sidewalk, or store isles, or at the theater. When was the last time you followed a 20 - 30 YO in to a store and they realized a person was behind them and held the door? Almost never happens. They are to busy in their own little world.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

Now are you guys standing on or giving way? are you suggesting the deleting of the thread? the deleting of Steve? or the ole CEER tactic with deleting both?

what the fuc did I say other than educate boaters of boating laws and etiquite...most the things that happen on the water are from someone not knowing,not carring. or just plain ol dis respect full..

 

[GRADS]

This thread bores me....

 

[Lumpy]

The law was broken.....so lets make more laws. Oh thats a great idea.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

I've never been to Havasu. But I have been on MANY lakes and from the experiences on those as well as what I've read on here makes me think it is safe to say therest is an established primary direction of of travel on the lake which is in a counter-clockwise rotation (i.e. if you are heading North you are on the east side of the lake, heading south you are on the West side). If I am wrong, please correct me. But, since there is already an established direction of travel, any vessel traffic going in a different direction (East or West) would be the stand down vessel. In every lake I have gone to this is stated, typically in fewer words, on the paperwork handed to you when you pay your launching/day use fee.

All those nautical rules and such are for body's of water that do not have otherwise established navigational standards.

And a horn blast between recreational boaters is the most absurd thing I've heard since they tried to enforce life vests at all times on Pine Flat lake.

I boated on naci for years, san antone. lopez. .havasu and parker have no sense of direction...like I said.. pour a bag of marbles on the kitchen floor... that's the sense of direction..

the boat to the left in any direction is the stand down... north south east or west... and like all water ways... you stay to the right, or as cal say... counter clock wise..

easyier way to explain it to others is stay to the right..yield to other boaters coming on the right..pass at a safe speed and yield to boats in front of you

 

[Bigbore500r]

This thread bores me....

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You're like the gay Daft Punk member that got cut from the band [emoji3]

 

[Headless hula]

gay Daft Punk member


Bwahahahahahahahahahahhahahhaaa

 

[Riverbound]

The law was broken.....so lets make more laws. Oh thats a great idea.

That's what baffles me. The guy driving the slower boat with self admitted loud (illegal) exhaust was breaking the law. The guy in the overcoming Boat illegally passed the slower boat. So in this scenario of you really broke down what happened there were laws broken on both sides of the fence. Then there's people campaigning for more laws, without seeing how ridiculous it is that nobody was paying attention to the laws that are already in existence in the first place. Even the guy that was "in the right" was doing wrong. Lol.