Not a call out, but what dick

[2FORCEFULL]

here's some thing that needs to happen....

they need bouy's in the center of the river that say keep right....and also navi lights on them...feds do it... why can't states??

also.... they need to make boat reg. a driver/captian lic.

they're gonna shut down the river because of the 100 mph plus boats... picking a line... and the line they pick is all the way to the left

 

[2FORCEFULL]

Correct, Steve missed the boat on this one, he wasn't "lucky enough" to figure out my words. No where did I state it was okay to pick a line in a crowded water way and do 150mph, nor would I. That would be unsafe and reckless, what I did state is to have a great line, clear of traffic in a fast cat is a great way to spend a couple minutes doing 150mph passing Cheetah deck boats with detuned 525's and an angry muffler shop owner onboard, hi Steve..

easy to miss understand some one who doesn't know what they are talking about , or how to word things... which is it...

what do think picking a line means...???? was he doing a line at 150??

also...

did they ever find the guy that was picking a line in the fountain and killed the kid on the jet ski???

 

[Bigbore500r]

:thumbsdown:thumbsdown:thumbsdown:thumbsdown

I agree people need to pass safely and should slow down when needed to keep situations safe, but I can't believe people are on here asking for a speed limit on LAKE HAVASU

When you guys give an inch and say "yes....we need speed limits." and they take a mile down the road, and you end up with a 35mph speed limits - remember what you asked for. That's how this shit starts. You open the door and invite it in, give it some light and let it grow....then it takes over your yard. Your sitting there saying "i only wanted them to limit it to 90...or 80...(or whatever your boats top speed is....) but you gave them the opportunity and asked for the review and they come back wth "yes, your right - we do need a speed limit. Aaaaaand we have determined that the safe speed for these conditions is actually 35mph"

If you want speed limits there are plenty of other lakes you can go - why are you trying to take away the one everybody goes to that likes to go fast?? Go to Castaic, Pyramid, Piru, Big Bear, Canyon Lake...etc etc etc if you want that atmosphere.

You implement a speed limit and all the cool hardware / big $$$$ / cool events are going to leave. Period.

 

[Dirtbag]

Wow, I never thought I would agree with 2FF as much as I have recently. I would have no issue with speed limits being initiated and enforced over certain areas of Havasu. No reason open speed needs to be allowed over the narrow or congested areas of the lake (gorge, basin by channel, etc.) in my opinion. Plenty of other areas of the lake.

you are entitled to your opinion but as government has shown us u give them a little and they end up taking a lot. Once you crest the hill on this its down the slippery slope with no brakes. We cant allow a precedent to be set. Im not a go fast guy. Im a 65 and good guy but what happens when you get rid of the go fast guys? Money leaves the area, house prices go down, businesses shutter their doors, and the shit hits the fan. Thats what this is all about. As much as i dont want to see a DCB drive by me at 150 mph and scare the shit out of my kids, i appreciate the hell outta him/her cause if they keep building them and keep buying them my son will have a 450-500k house when hes older instead of a 50k box in a barrren wasteland

 

[Gelcoater]

:thumbsdown:thumbsdown:thumbsdown:thumbsdown

I agree people need to pass safely and should slow down when needed to keep situations safe, but I can't believe people are on here asking for a speed limit on LAKE HAVASU

When you guys give an inch and say "yes....we need speed limits." and they take a mile down the road, and you end up with a 35mph speed limits - remember what you asked for. That's how this shit starts. You open the door and invite it in, give it some light and let it grow....then it takes over your yard. Your sitting there saying "i only wanted them to limit it to 90...or 80...(or whatever your boats top speed is....) but you gave them the opportunity and asked for the review and they come back wth "yes, your right - we do need a speed limit. Aaaaaand we have determined that the safe speed for these conditions is actually 35mph"

If you want speed limits there are plenty of other lakes you can go - why are you trying to take away the one everybody goes to that likes to go fast?? Go to Castaic, Pyramid, Piru, Big Bear, Canyon Lake...etc etc etc if you want that atmosphere.

You implement a speed limit and all the cool hardware / big $$$$ / cool events are going to leave. Period.

A 35 mph limit means adios to the west coast custom boat builder.Adios to many jobs.

After that all happens Dave can print a run of nostalgia RDP shirts with an image of a big custom cat actually on plane.

 

[HALLETT BOY]

Don't you get a free Tres Martin boat safety class when you purchase a DCB ? If so , why are all the DCB guys driving so recklessly ? JK , it's not only DCB guys .

 

[2FORCEFULL]

you are entitled to your opinion but as government has shown us u give them a little and they end up taking a lot. Once you crest the hill on this its down the slippery slope with no brakes. We cant allow a precedent to be set. Im not a go fast guy. Im a 65 and good guy but what happens when you get rid of the go fast guys? Money leaves the area, house prices go down, businesses shutter their doors, and the shit hits the fan. Thats what this is all about. As much as i dont want to see a DCB drive by me at 150 mph and scare the shit out of my kids, i appreciate the hell outta him/her cause if they keep building them and keep buying them my son will have a 450-500k house when hes older instead of a 50k box in a barrren wasteland

still goes back to people... people just need to take a moment to think of others...take a second to be old and think about what if?? is half a second enough time to react when the guy in the front whips a U to go get his new RDP hat that just blew off...

like the video where the guy fucks up everyone in the boat.... how do you have enough time to react to that..

 

[2FORCEFULL]

[video=youtube_https;_6UyVDpay0E]https://youtu.be/_6UyVDpay0E[/video]

 

[t&y]

At any time did you look around to see if anybody was coming up behind you? I'm not saying him passing you that fast is your fault. Obviously you can't control what he does. But was it really a big surprise that all the sudden someone was passing you?

All this talk about boats going too fast... Every captain of a boat out there should have their head on a swivel at all times so other boats on the water don't surprise you regardless of how fast they are going.

 

[Dirtbag]

still goes back to people... people just need to take a moment to think of others...take a second to be old and think about what if?? is half a second enough time to react when the guy in the front whips a U to go get his new RDP hat that just blew off...

like the video where the guy fucks up everyone in the boat.... how do you have enough time to react to that..

I agree with you but leave it in the hands of the people. Once you let the government get a hold of it its game over. we will be racing our r/c boats in the channel for our only fun.

 

[KevinR]

At any time did you look around to see if anybody was coming up behind you? I'm not saying him passing you that fast is your fault. Obviously you can't control what he does. But was it really a big surprise that all the sudden someone was passing you?

All this talk about boats going too fast... Every captain of a boat out there should have their head on a swivle at all times so other boats on the water don't surprise you regardless of how fast they are going.

Absolute truth. My dad taught me that lesson early in the late 60s and 70s boating on Lake Arrowhead. So many boats and "no clue" drivers on a small lake. 360 degrees all the time.

 

[RiverDave]

here's some thing that needs to happen....

they need bouy's in the center of the river that say keep right....and also navi lights on them...feds do it... why can't states??

also.... they need to make boat reg. a driver/captian lic.

they're gonna shut down the river because of the 100 mph plus boats... picking a line... and the line they pick is all the way to the left

I don't think they need a centerline so much as people just need to stay right. I don't think it is as huge a problem as people are making it out to be but I do see one or two guys (and a whole bunch of jet skis) do it every time I go out.. in comparison I see a hundred people staying to the right every time.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

At any time did you look around to see if anybody was coming up behind you? I'm not saying him passing you that fast is your fault. Obviously you can't control what he does. But was it really a big surprise that all the sudden someone was passing you?

All this talk about boats going too fast... Every captain of a boat out there should have their head on a swivel at all times so other boats on the water don't surprise you regardless of how fast they are going.

that's how I was taught also...I was also taught when you are pulling a skier and a boat is in front of you , coming at you or you are going to pass.. to put your hand up to let the skier know to get behind the boat.....and when you pick up a down skier ... do so on the driverside as to never loose sight of them...and also to tap the top of your head to let the boat know that you are done sking...you know .. old school stuff

and when are driving a boat and see the boat coming at you has a skier..put your hand up to let the driver know you see his skier and the same when you see a orange flag when you see a skier in the water..

and to put a flag up when you have a rope, skier, or peoples swimming in the water... laws weren't needed when the generation of boaters where out having fun and respected each other..... guess none of them were lucky enough

 

[2FORCEFULL]

I don't think they need a centerline so much as people just need to stay right. I don't think it is as huge a problem as people are making it out to be but I do see one or two guys (and a whole bunch of jet skis) do it every time I go out.. in comparison I see a hundred people staying to the right every time.

most of whats going on is on the river section... sat, the worst

surprising thing though....most people would take a boating safety class if it was offered...

you would really be surprised at the amount of people that do not know one boat law, and think that there aren't any

who is stand on and who is stand down???

 

[spectra3279]

havasu is a pond on the river...

With what I grew on. It really is a pond. And I didn't grow up on the salt water

 

[2FORCEFULL]

heres something Nevada is doing....




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There is no minimum age requirement to take this online course.

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Additionally, a person operating a vessel that is towing a person on water skis, a surfboard, or any other device must be:
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?At least 14 years of age and have on board a person at least 18 years of age in a position to supervise the operator.

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Nevada law enforcement officers patrol the waterways to make your boating experience safe and pleasant. Cooperate with them by following the laws and guidelines.

Carry the Card: Vessel operators who are required to have a Boater Education Card must carry the card on board the vessel and have it available for inspection by an enforcement officer.

Penalty: Not carrying your Boater Education Card when one is required can result in a fine.

Is the Boating Card the same as the Boating License?

The Nevada Boater Education Certificate is proof that you have successfully completed all of the components of an approved Boating safety course and allows you to go boating. Because the Boating education card or certificate does not expire and does not need to be renewed, it is not called the Nevada Boating License.

Even if not required by law to get the Nevada boating education card, many boaters take the boat safety course in order to save on their PWC or boat insurance.

Do your part to make boating in Nevada an enjoyable pastime! Become an educated, responsible boater by completing the Boat Nevada course, and practice what you learn.

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All states, territories, and provinces will recognize boating education cards that meet NASBLA requirements and Canadian Pleasure Craft Operator Cards that meet Transport Canada?s requirements. (This is known as ?reciprocity.?)




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[2FORCEFULL]

just so everyone is clear on post's

I'm not for common sense laws... but for a boating education...I wanna know that boaters around me have been educated...and know boating laws..

I don't drive with a radar detector....I drive with gps that tells me if i'm exceeding the posted limit

I don't plan trips that have a time limit and have to speed to get there....on the way to havasu I have spent the night in search light many a times..

 

[2FORCEFULL]

With what I grew on. It really is a pond. And I didn't grow up on the salt water

if you think about it... havasu by Windsor is just a wide part of the river....

still don't understand why the big powered boats don't go to mead.... the upper basin is huge... you can run to temple bar and not see but a couple boats....thumbsup

 

[2FORCEFULL]

I don't think they need a centerline so much as people just need to stay right. I don't think it is as huge a problem as people are making it out to be but I do see one or two guys (and a whole bunch of jet skis) do it every time I go out.. in comparison I see a hundred people staying to the right every time.

people don't think it's the law to stay to the right on the river

people think "STARBOARD" is a wake board

 

[RiverDave]

:thumbsdown:thumbsdown:thumbsdown:thumbsdown

I agree people need to pass safely and should slow down when needed to keep situations safe, but I can't believe people are on here asking for a speed limit on LAKE HAVASU

When you guys give an inch and say "yes....we need speed limits." and they take a mile down the road, and you end up with a 35mph speed limits - remember what you asked for. That's how this shit starts. You open the door and invite it in, give it some light and let it grow....then it takes over your yard. Your sitting there saying "i only wanted them to limit it to 90...or 80...(or whatever your boats top speed is....) but you gave them the opportunity and asked for the review and they come back wth "yes, your right - we do need a speed limit. Aaaaaand we have determined that the safe speed for these conditions is actually 35mph"

If you want speed limits there are plenty of other lakes you can go - why are you trying to take away the one everybody goes to that likes to go fast?? Go to Castaic, Pyramid, Piru, Big Bear, Canyon Lake...etc etc etc if you want that atmosphere.

You implement a speed limit and all the cool hardware / big $$$$ / cool events are going to leave. Period.

I agree with this 100%

A 35 mph limit means adios to the west coast custom boat builder.Adios to many jobs.

After that all happens Dave can print a run of nostalgia RDP shirts with an image of a big custom cat actually on plane.

That is a scary thought and truth.

[video=youtube_https;_6UyVDpay0E]https://youtu.be/_6UyVDpay0E[/video]

There is zero relevance in that video to this thread.. Other than shock value I'm not sure I see the point of it?

At any time did you look around to see if anybody was coming up behind you? I'm not saying him passing you that fast is your fault. Obviously you can't control what he does. But was it really a big surprise that all the sudden someone was passing you?

All this talk about boats going too fast... Every captain of a boat out there should have their head on a swivel at all times so other boats on the water don't surprise you regardless of how fast they are going.

Or at a minimum don't be all shocked when someone passes you and HOLD YOUR LINE if you aren't gonna look behind you.. That said ALWAYS look before you turn.

I agree with you but leave it in the hands of the people. Once you let the government get a hold of it its game over. we will be racing our r/c boats in the channel for our only fun.

Pretty soon the RC boats might be a "potential" danger and they will limit those to RC sail boats.. LOL

that's how I was taught also...I was also taught when you are pulling a skier and a boat is in front of you , coming at you or you are going to pass.. to put your hand up to let the skier know to get behind the boat.....and when you pick up a down skier ... do so on the driverside as to never loose sight of them...and also to tap the top of your head to let the boat know that you are done sking...you know .. old school stuff

and when are driving a boat and see the boat coming at you has a skier..put your hand up to let the driver know you see his skier and the same when you see a orange flag when you see a skier in the water..

and to put a flag up when you have a rope, skier, or peoples swimming in the water... laws weren't needed when the generation of boaters where out having fun and respected each other..... guess none of them were lucky enough

Not sure I understand the driver of the boat signaling his own skier?

Way I was taught was if you were an approaching boat and another boat had a downed skier, you would raise your hand to signal to the other boat that you see the skier. You don't raise your hand until you see them. Flags out when the Ropes out.. I was taught Flag out when people are in the water.. Ironically enough the law doesn't support that. The AZ law is flag out when the skier / rope is in the water. Not swimmers.

most of whats going on is on the river section... sat, the worst

surprising thing though....most people would take a boating safety class if it was offered...

you would really be surprised at the amount of people that do not know one boat law, and think that there aren't any

who is stand on and who is stand down???

Boating Safety classes are offered Steve, and they are free. They hold them once or twice a month just about everywhere.

RD

 

[2FORCEFULL]

I agree with this 100%



That is a scary thought and truth.



There is zero relevance in that video to this thread.. Other than shock value I'm not sure I see the point of it?



Or at a minimum don't be all shocked when someone passes you and HOLD YOUR LINE if you aren't gonna look behind you.. That said ALWAYS look before you turn.
Pretty soon the RC boats might be a "potential" danger and they will limit those to RC sail boats.. LOL



Not sure I understand the driver of the boat signaling his own skier?

Way I was taught was if you were an approaching boat and another boat had a downed skier, you would raise your hand to signal to the other boat that you see the skier. You don't raise your hand until you see them. Flags out when the Ropes out.. I was taught Flag out when people are in the water.. Ironically enough the law doesn't support that. The AZ law is flag out when the skier / rope is in the water. Not swimmers.



Boating Safety classes are offered Steve, and they are free. They hold them once or twice a month just about everywhere.

RD

that's because you were not taught how to pull a skier

 

[2FORCEFULL]

Absolute truth. My dad taught me that lesson early in the late 60s and 70s boating on Lake Arrowhead. So many boats and "no clue" drivers on a small lake. 360 degrees all the time.

the key word in your post....taught:thumbsup

 

[RiverDave]

people don't think it's the law to stay to the right on the river

people think "STARBOARD" is a wake board

It bothers me that you make blanket statements like that without statistical data to back that up.

I remember being like 5 years old and someone telling me "Do you know the difference between Port and Starboard?" They said Port is left / starboard is right.. And if you ever forget all the short words are on the left, and all the long words are on the right. Never forgot it sense?

Now I'm not an expert on Navigational laws, but I have read them all at one time or another. It does bring up in interesting point though of the differentiation of what the laws on the books are, and the "general rules of the road" that are happening out on the water and the constant growing distance between them.

The whole Horn blasts thing, can you imagine the chaos on some place like Parker? You'd need a hearing aid when you are done for an afternoon. I am educated to know that if a Jetski whips a left in front of you and you run them over, that you are at fault. Even though it defies logic in most instances for river / lake boating that's the way the laws are currently written.

RD

 

[Andy01]

that's because you were not taught how to pull a skier

When a thread has gone from informative and entertaining to down right dumb. lol Dave doesn't know how to pull a skier, cant you add something like he can't back up a trailer to? Or use the trim button?

 

[RiverDave]

that's because you were not taught how to pull a skier

I'm curious how it is that a "Skier gets behind the boat"

As far as pulling skiers there's an awful lot to it that is involved, none of which involves the Skier doing anything other than floating and waiting for you to bring the rope to him. Most of it is situation dependent and would take a novel to type out.. General jist being though if there's traffic bearing down on your guy you put the boat between the guy and the oncoming traffic, and put the rope inline behind the boat so it isn't dragging across the river.. If you are halfway good you can generally manage all that and put the rope in the guys hands without him "having to get behind the boat."


I realize that you are on some tangent and want to prove some kind of point today, or win an argument that's fine.. We all do that on the internet time to time. I'd just ask you to realize that all the right / wrong people are reading RDP now, and people tend to read "what they want to read." Same as those meetings you we went too. 100 people say one thing, and one guy said he's a bird watcher and doesn't want his camera to accidentally get wet and everyone behind the desk started writing. Nobody wrote anything when the 100 other guys talked. Becareful what you wish for.. It isn't the DCB guy blasting buy Always Floored that would end up getting suggestions for speed limits, and the erosions of freedoms.. It's irresponsible posts on here that will fuck it all up for everyone.

RD

 

[RiverDave]

When a thread has gone from informative and entertaining to down right dumb. lol Dave doesn't know how to pull a skier, cant you add something like he can't back up a trailer to? Or use the trim button?

Ironically enough I was talking to Chris O when my kids were taking lessons and he told me he was in need of a part time driver.. I was considering taking the job because I had so much fun when my kids were learning.

RD

 

[2FORCEFULL]

It bothers me that you make blanket statements like that without statistical data to back that up.

I remember being like 5 years old and someone telling me "Do you know the difference between Port and Starboard?" They said Port is left / starboard is right.. And if you ever forget all the short words are on the left, and all the long words are on the right. Never forgot it sense?

Now I'm not an expert on Navigational laws, but I have read them all at one time or another. It does bring up in interesting point though of the differentiation of what the laws on the books are, and the "general rules of the road" that are happening out on the water and the constant growing distance between them.

The whole Horn blasts thing, can you imagine the chaos on some place like Parker? You'd need a hearing aid when you are done for an afternoon. I am educated to know that if a Jetski whips a left in front of you and you run them over, that you are at fault. Even though it defies logic in most instances for river / lake boating that's the way the laws are currently written.

RD

here's another one for you...boating at parker is chaos... looks like when you dump a bag of marbles on the kitchen floor... the whole point you missed is the uneducated boat drivers.. you must get the attention of the boat driver in front of you"BEFORE" you pass

 

[Andy01]

Ironically enough I was talking to Chris O when my kids were taking lessons and he told me he was in need of a part time driver.. I was considering taking the job because I had so much fun when my kids were learning.

RD

You should, but it's normally in the morning......:eek

I'll do it for free, I had a blast when my kids were behind his boat skiing.

 

[wishiknew]

that's how I was taught also...I was also taught when you are pulling a skier and a boat is in front of you , coming at you or you are going to pass.. to put your hand up to let the skier know to get behind the boat.....and when you pick up a down skier ... do so on the driverside as to never loose sight of them...and also to tap the top of your head to let the boat know that you are done sking...you know .. old school stuff

and when are driving a boat and see the boat coming at you has a skier..put your hand up to let the driver know you see his skier and the same when you see a orange flag when you see a skier in the water..

and to put a flag up when you have a rope, skier, or peoples swimming in the water... laws weren't needed when the generation of boaters where out having fun and respected each other..... guess none of them were lucky enough

This is how I was taught but what about the jerk that puts a orange flag up on top of their bimini or roll bar when they are just floating

 

[2FORCEFULL]

When a thread has gone from informative and entertaining to down right dumb. lol Dave doesn't know how to pull a skier, cant you add something like he can't back up a trailer to? Or use the trim button?

I can add he doesn't know how to work tabs on a 240 hallett, doesn't know how to pull a skier, or how to pick up a downed skier..

 

[RiverDave]

here's another one for you...boating at parker is chaos... looks like when you dump a bag of marbles on the kitchen floor... the whole point you missed is the uneducated boat drivers.. you must get the attention of the boat driver in front of you"BEFORE" you pass

Boating in Parker isn't chaos.. I can understand that coming from a lake perspective it is probably "sketchy as all get out" but when you have been there your whole life it's just "normal."

Everyone has a "bias" in life.. doesn't matter what the subject is, people are always gonna lean a little differently.

You don't need to get the attention of the driver before you pass, although if it is possible to do (wait until you make eye contact or...) then it's a great positive. Ironically enough we are going to come full circle to "lines." If you pick good lines while you are passing people then if they make a bad move, you will have an "out" to avoid them.

It's all about the lines Steve.. (seriously)

RD

 

[Miss Venomous]

Those kinda moves will screw it up for everybody....off with his head!

 

[2FORCEFULL]

This is how I was taught but what about the jerk that puts a orange flag up on top of their bimini or roll bar when they are just floating

again,.. lack of education.... I seen this at the lake.... guy pulling the skier has the flag up the whole time... skier falls and gets in the boat... I idle up.... hey how come you pull the skier with the flag up??? he says they never told me when to put it up... they just said if we we're gonna ski... we have have a orange flagD

 

[2FORCEFULL]

Boating in Parker isn't chaos.. I can understand that coming from a lake perspective it is probably "sketchy as all get out" but when you have been there your whole life it's just "normal."

Everyone has a "bias" in life.. doesn't matter what the subject is, people are always gonna lean a little differently.

You don't need to get the attention of the driver before you pass, although if it is possible to do (wait until you make eye contact or...) then it's a great positive. Ironically enough we are going to come full circle to "lines." If you pick good lines while you are passing people then if they make a bad move, you will have an "out" to avoid them.

It's all about the lines Steve.. (seriously)

RD

serious dave.... take a boating safety class

 

[RiverDave]

serious dave.... take a boating safety class

I have..

still have never seen anyone blow a horn when passing another vessel. .

 

[Riverbound]

serious dave.... take a boating safety class

If in not mistake Dave has taken not only the Tres Martin class but also a state mandated class [emoji23][emoji23]

 

[RiverDave]

If in not mistake Dave has taken not only the Tres Martin class but also a state mandated class [emoji23][emoji23]

Yep.. lol ironically enough still get the discount on insurance!


what are your thoughts on picking lines or blowing horns here Billdo? .

 

[rivrrts429]

This thread has gone to shit and is the perfect ammo for the refuge debacle. The Fed's are just cutting and pasting all this non-sense.

It's an interesting study to see people who want to live in a free society but want freedoms taken away because of the few. Sounds eerily similar to, "we're the government and we're here to help."

You shut the river portion down or enforce speed limits on performance boats on Lake Havasu and you sink your property values in that town. Nobody is going to buy an M35 with twin small blocks and Alpha's so they can putt around Havasu.

Snowbirds aren't buying the properties. They drive a large portion of the local economy but they're not sustaining the upper ends of that micro economic town. You start pushing for speed limits and you'll also see your performance boat values drop as well as boat builders questioning why they remain in CA and not go where they're welcomed. You'll see everything from high end trailer builders, detail shops, and mechanics straight pack up and leave because they have to follow the money. Then you would see functions like Desert Storm disappear because who is going to haul all the costly equipment to a desert location where these machines are essentially idling around. Law enforcement loves the idea because then they need to ramp up to enforce all this bullshit.

Now, who is going to go to a body of water loaded with cops and electric Duffy boats with a tanking economy?

It's very expensive to do business in CA and Havasu is one of the few reasons boat builders remain. You impose a speed limit on Havasu and I wouldn't set foot in that town or spend a nickel of tax revenue.

Take a look at California. Performance boaters don't boat here. They boat in Havasu so they don't have to deal with the bullshit being proposed in this thread.

Poof... all that money gone and SRice gets a raise because he's now responsible for a police force twice as large as it was before.

I expect excerpts of this thread to be in the refuge CD. Paraphrased but yet still in there.

 

[shintoooo]

 

[RiverDave]

This thread has gone to shit and is the perfect ammo for the refuge debacle. The Fed's are just cutting and pasting all this non-sense.

It's an interesting study to see people who want to live in a free society but want freedoms taken away because of the few. Sounds eerily similar to, "we're the government and we're here to help."

You shut the river portion down or enforce speed limits on performance boats on Lake Havasu and you sink your property values in that town. Nobody is going to buy an M35 with twin small blocks and Alpha's so they can putt around Havasu.

Snowbirds aren't buying the properties. They drive a large portion of the local economy but they're not sustaining the upper ends of that micro economic town. You start pushing for speed limits and you'll also see your performance boat values drop as well as boat builders questioning why they remain in CA and not go where they're welcomed. You'll see everything from high end trailer builders, detail shops, and mechanics straight pack up and leave because they have to follow the money. Then you would see functions like Desert Storm disappear because who is going to haul all the costly equipment to a desert location where these machines are essentially idling around. Law enforcement loves the idea because then they need to ramp up to enforce all this bullshit.

Now, who is going to go to a body of water loaded with cops and electric Duffy boats with a tanking economy?

It's very expensive to do business in CA and Havasu is one of the few reasons boat builders remain. You impose a speed limit on Havasu and I wouldn't set foot in that town or spend a nickel of tax revenue.

Take a look at California. Performance boaters don't boat here. They boat in Havasu so they don't have to deal with the bullshit being proposed in this thread.

Poof... all that money gone and SRice gets a raise because he's now responsible for a police force twice as large as it was before.

I expect excerpts of this thread to be in the refuge CD. Paraphrased but yet still in there.

I couldn't agree more.. unfortunately in the freedoms that I believe in also include that people have a right to an opinion, even if it is misguided, shortsighted, and Ill informed..

So we allow people to share those opinions and not run the site like a bunch of heavy handed nazis like ole waffles is always accusing me of.. So it's kind of a catch 22 in that regard. I can't preach freedoms and self regulation and then turn around and clip every post that doesn't agree with my ideas of freedoms. Believe me it is tempting all the time.. especially with some of grads posts that make my blood boil.

I agree though There are posts in here that are extremely damaging to what my idea of boating and the freedom that comes with it. That said I also believe in self regulation and your post and others like it that condemn those thoughts are more or less my proof that it works. Not only in a thread on the internet but in nearly all aspects of life. I run this site about like I would like to see our government run our recreational areas.. With a very light touch just to keep things in the right direction once in a great while.. the rest more or less works itself out.

 

[rivrrts429]

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Correct, but like Dave said, it's who is watching these threads.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

Yep.. lol ironically enough still get the discount on insurance!


what are your thoughts on picking lines or blowing horns here Billdo? .

ok dave... your coming out of windsor headed to the casino.... a cheetah deck is doing a 100 with the bimini top up headed to sight six...
who has the right away and has to stop or slow down..?

 

[2FORCEFULL]

Correct, but like Dave said, it's who is watching these threads.

if people were worried about who's watching ... they wouldn't post about drinking in the boat and driving...

 

[2FORCEFULL]

If in not mistake Dave has taken not only the Tres Martin class but also a state mandated class [emoji23][emoji23]

why was that???

 

[rivrrts429]

if people were worried about who's watching ... they wouldn't post about drinking in the boat and driving...

That's not illegal. Unless there's some test that can analyze BAC through a picture or post?

 

[2FORCEFULL]

ok dave... your coming out of windsor headed to the casino.... a cheetah deck is doing a 100 with the bimini top up headed to sight six...
who has the right away and has to stop or slow down..?

lol... google must be shut down

 

[RiverDave]

ok dave... your coming out of windsor headed to the casino.... a cheetah deck is doing a 100 with the bimini top up headed to sight six...
who has the right away and has to stop or slow down..?

I would just push the button on my Schiada extend the wings and fly over to the casino.. if we are talking fairy tales wth cheetahs running a 100, then I'm gonna chitty chitty bang bang my way to winning some more $$..

That said to answer the General jist of your post there isn't enough information there to answer your question. for general practice and to give you some answer I would say the person traveling (in my case me) across the lake instead of up or down the lake would give way.. without knowing the location of the cheetah in relevance to the Schiada it is impossible to know if it's passing port or starboard or who is stand on etc..

Hope that helps..

 

[BDMar]

ok dave... your coming out of windsor headed to the casino.... a cheetah deck is doing a 100 with the bimini top up headed to sight six...
who has the right away and has to stop or slow down..?

The Cheetah has to slow down because the bimini just blew off

 

[Bobby V]

ok dave... your coming out of windsor headed to the casino.... a cheetah deck is doing a 100 with the bimini top up headed to sight six...
who has the right away and has to stop or slow down..?

lol... google must be shut down

Its only been 3 minutes. Besides its a trick question. Everyone know a Cheetah deck can't go 60 with or without the top up.

 

[Bigbore500r]

ok dave... your coming out of windsor headed to the casino.... a cheetah deck is doing a 100 with the bimini top up headed to sight six...
who has the right away and has to stop or slow down..?

Yes