Not a call out, but what dick

[t&y]

It's just frustrating how people can blame the guy going straight at 35 mph. Saying I should of done this, or I should of done that. The guy was covering over 2 miles a minute. On a river with bends. You would almost have to drive forward while looking behind to see him, that's not safe. I look hard left and right continuously. I look behind me quite often, but when a mile every 30 seconds is being covered on a river with bends, it's not hard to not see him coming.

I don't think people are blaming you. The guy in the cat should not have passed that close. That is a completely seperate issue than his speed honestly. If he is the type of idiot that thinks that's a good idea at 150 then he'd probably do it going 60 too. Further on that... how does anybody really know how fast he was going?

 

[Always Floored]

I don't think people are blaming you. The guy in the cat should not have passed that close. That is a completely seperate issue than his speed honestly. If he is the type of idiot that thinks that's a good idea at 150 then he'd probably do it going 60 too. Further on that... how does anybody really know how fast he was going?

I don't know his exact speed. But it took him about 10 seconds to be completely out of sight. I would guess over 120mph

 

[Singleton]

again... it goes right back to laws already on the books..you must yield to slower traffic, you must operate at a speed to avoid contact with the boat you are passing, and you are responsible for your wake

My grandfather taught me all this when I was under 10 years of age. Even had to take a educational course in WI so I could operate my grandfathers boat since I was 12. If you took the course you could operate a boat by yourself if you were at least 12.
Between my grandfather and my dad all the navigational rules were ingrained into me at a young age.
IMO more boating education is needed. We don't need additional laws, maybe just one requiring education to register a boat. But we do need a way to make sure everyone stays educated.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

I also wanna say..... since I have the attention of the whole world, and what I say will cause things to happen.......there aren't auto and boat accidents, or maybe one % of accidents are really an accident...what you will find is one , or both of those involved were not pay'n attention to what the were doing, one or both were drinking, texting, having sex, speeding. running red light.....


those are not accidents , even though labled as such...they are willfull actions of disregaurd to the safety and laws put there to protect themselves and others...

two people getting killed because someone ran a stop light is not an accident

 

[2FORCEFULL]

anybody ever wonder why they put so many gauges in a hi performace boat???

 

[2FORCEFULL]

PLEASE STOP THIS THREAD, I keep coming to it to be dissappointed.

there's a full menu here at rdp...find a thread that's suits you taste and is easier to swallow...or better yet....start a new thread with your topic:cool

 

[t&y]

anybody ever wonder why they put so many gauges in a hi performace boat???

Because it looks really cool:cool

 

[Wicky]

Because it looks really cool:cool

Do Wakeboard boats come with idiot lights?

 

[hallett21]

Good to know that any twin engine cat on havasu at a minimum is traveling 150 covering football fields at a time. [emoji6]

Can we at least bring this convo back to reality and say that they are probably running closer to 100mph maybe 120 mark GPSd.

Just because your water pickup speedo says 60 doesn't mean you're traveling that fast. Also loud exhaust as they pass you does not add mph either. Just ask the jet boat guys. I kid I kid.

SRICE- first thanks for sticking around I think you need to get yourself an avatar. Pm boat cop for ideas [emoji3].

Also in the spirit of boater safety could you talk with RD about possibly posting a sticky to an online boater safety class here? That would be a big step in bridging the gap between LEOs and citizens here.

 

[Ziggy]

anybody ever wonder why they put so many gauges in a hi performace boat???

oint
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Mine only has 3:smackhead

 

[Stainless]

Good to know that any twin engine cat on havasu at a minimum is traveling 150 covering football fields at a time. [emoji6]

Can we at least bring this convo back to reality and say that they are probably running closer to 100mph maybe 120 mark GPSd.

Just because your water pickup speedo says 60 doesn't mean you're traveling that fast. Also loud exhaust as they pass you does not add mph either. Just ask the jet boat guys. I kid I kid.

SRICE- first thanks for sticking around I think you need to get yourself an avatar. Pm boat cop for ideas [emoji3].

Also in the spirit of boater safety could you talk with RD about possibly posting a sticky to an online boater safety class here? That would be a big step in bridging the gap between LEOs and citizens here.

The class I took was either free or minimal cost through AZG&F, did it to get an insurance discount, but got 1000X more out of it than the discount. Remember it taking most of the day in a classroom and was both interesting and educational. I should actually take a refresher bc that was 10 years ago.
If your inclined to take it I recommend the classroom because you can interact with instructor and other classmates.
Oh, and I like fast boats so don't get the idea I'm pushing regulation of them.

 

[Ziggy]

Something to remember too. Driving a cat at 100+ is likely a more comfortable situation(as in Caddy-like smooth) than a 50mph white knuckle excursion in a smaller boat.
I can compare this first hand. My old boat at 50 was a handful and required 100% attention. The new deck at 50 can be a one finger on steering wheel operation if I wanted to.

 

[Ziggy]

The class I took was either free or minimal cost through AZG&F, did it to get an insurance discount, but got 1000X more out of it than the discount. Remember it taking most of the day in a classroom and was both interesting and educational. I should actually take a refresher bc that was 10 years ago.
If your inclined to take it I recommend the classroom because you can interact with instructor and other classmates.
Oh, and I like fast boats so don't get the idea I'm pushing regulation of them.

Did the online deal last year:thumbsup
Reinforces my knowledge and reminds me of other facts:thumbsup

 

[EmpirE231]

Sounds like the orange DCB is always floored :skull

 

[RiverDave]

these things go sideways every time. Guys gets splashed and is/was pissed. Just here to vent no big deal. Now RD wants Trump to solve the Havasu boating issues.

Education and licenses.....It cant hurt.

inch...

Sure, but how much worse would it be if we handed every 16 year old a set of keys and said "Go figure it out for yourself, and by the way there are no speed limits, drive on whichever side of the road you like, and no open container laws. Just use common sense and it's all good." No public policy is ever guaranteed to achieve a perfect outcome, just like it's rare that any new medicine is 100% effective. The goal is to achieve a benefit which outweighs the cost. In this example the benefit is to get rid of most of the idiots running river left, and the cost is a couple hours of everybody's time.

mile...


see how fast that happened?

 

[Old Texan]

Sure, but how much worse would it be if we handed every 16 year old a set of keys and said "Go figure it out for yourself, and by the way there are no speed limits, drive on whichever side of the road you like, and no open container laws. Just use common sense and it's all good." No public policy is ever guaranteed to achieve a perfect outcome, just like it's rare that any new medicine is 100% effective. The goal is to achieve a benefit which outweighs the cost. In this example the benefit is to get rid of most of the idiots running river left, and the cost is a couple hours of everybody's time.

You're looking at this from an extreme. There are not that many idiots on the water, at least in the multiple lakes and rivers I have frequented in numerous states over the years. This includes heavy fishing venues with fast tournament boats running hard, heavy traffic holidays on Austin's Lake Travis, sharing the InterCoastal Waterway with big tugs pushing 2-8 300' tethered barges, and more.

Again it's safer on the water than on the highway going to and from by a large margin.

How many actual accidents were there on Havasu last week end? I'd guarantee the surround highways and communities had car wrecks by drivers with licenses and driver training.

Don't exaggerate to call for a fix for something that statistically speaking, isn't a problem.:grumble:

 

[2FORCEFULL]

oint
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Mine only has 3:smackhead

like I said... Hi performance... your boat is probley half the power it would be able to run

 

[Ziggy]

like I said... Hi performance... your boat is probley half the power it would be able to run

I have 5 less HP than your(I mean Sues) High Performing Cheetah. I got more fiberglass and resin though.
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I could just have one gauge however. The other two are redundant and for looks.

 

[n2otoofast4u]

Fuck all of ya...

I'm just here for the boats, babes and beer.

View attachment 510159

It still hurts to see this picture. Mike Fry who owned and piloted that boat was killed in a drag boat accident last year. A true good guy of the sport, he is missed

 

[TLAW719]

I have 5 less HP than your(I mean Sues) High Performing Cheetah. I got more fiberglass and resin though.
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I could just have one gauge however. The other two are redundant and for looks.

Don't forget the stainless hardware.

How do you like your 520?

 

[2FORCEFULL]

I have 5 less HP than your(I mean Sues) High Performing Cheetah. I got more fiberglass and resin though.
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I could just have one gauge however. The other two are redundant and for looks.

sues boat is the same... half the power , and still more than it needs for what we do... the same cheetah deck has been over 130 mph... why ...just to see I guess... do I want a deck boat the does over 100 no...

 

[hallett21]

sues boat is the same... half the power , and still more than it needs for what we do... the same cheetah deck has been over 130 mph... why ...just to see I guess... do I want a deck boat the does over 100 no...

What motor? Pics of boat?

 

[2FORCEFULL]

Don't forget the stainless hardware.

How do you like your 520?

sues has stainless hardware, capped front and back full dual ram to the helm hydraulic steering custom 3 axel trailer with custom wheels..

and for less it came with a matching blue dodge diesel 4x4

 

[DC-88]

The class I took was either free or minimal cost through AZG&F, did it to get an insurance discount, but got 1000X more out of it than the discount. Remember it taking most of the day in a classroom and was both interesting and educational. I should actually take a refresher bc that was 10 years ago.
If your inclined to take it I recommend the classroom because you can interact with instructor and other classmates.
Oh, and I like fast boats so don't get the idea I'm pushing regulation of them.

About 12 years ago a good buddy of mine got an OUI in Az and was required to take the class. By the time he went it was offseason and I was out there working on my house, so we were hanging out and I decided to go with him. Even though I thought I knew a lot, there was more to know. I still remember all the passing and right of way stuff as 2FF posted + another way they said to figure the give way vessel is to think of the red port light on the crossing boat as a red stoplight. I'd bite the bullet and take it in a classroom too.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

What motor? Pics of boat?

not positive... but 1200 hp rings a bell...I heard it was in new mexico.....don't have a pic...

horizon motor sports sold one to the mid west with big power... don't know what it ended up speed wise..

 

[Ziggy]

Don't forget the stainless hardware.

How do you like your 520?

I'm happy with it overall...perhaps a little more torque would be nice. I really like it's by-wire feature, both throttle and shifter are cable-less.

 

[Ziggy]

sues boat is the same... half the power , and still more than it needs for what we do... the same cheetah deck has been over 130 mph... why ...just to see I guess... do I want a deck boat the does over 100 no...

Nope, not really.
Do you need one that goes over 80 either?

 

[TLAW719]

I'm happy with it overall...perhaps a little more torque would be nice. I really like it's by-wire feature, both throttle and shifter are cable-less.

I agree with you on they could use more torque. They sound great though. I'm not running any mufflers on mine. And the full digital livorsi gauges and throttle are real nice. Shifting is very smooth.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

About 12 years ago a good buddy of mine got an OUI in Az and was required to take the class. By the time he went it was offseason and I was out there working on my house, so we were hanging out and I decided to go with him. Even though I thought I knew a lot, there was more to know. I still remember all the passing and right of way stuff as 2FF posted + another way they said to figure the give way vessel is to think of the red port light on the crossing boat as a red stoplight. I'd bite the bullet and take it in a classroom too.

I have this happen all the time, in fact almost every time headed north from site 6 to the river...boats coming at me head on.... I change corse and head to the right....as we get closer he heads to his left:eek... wtf...so I go closer to shore...so does he... by now i'm stopped and off plane.....I say learn to drive it's free:thumbsup he say fuc you, I go where ever I want...:rolleyes

the next thing.... out in the big water(the pond part of havasu) headed north to the river... boat to my right is gonna hit me coming from the channel.... I'm in the stand down boat so I slow the speed alter my coarse to the right...you guessed it... mr nice guy also slows way down...now I'm in a collision coarse again... slow more and more to the right

same thing... now we are both at idle speed.... I say you need to learn to drive... he says the same and adds that he slowed down to let me pass...and don't tell him how to drive

I say you are the stand on boat... suspposed to maintain your speed... he says " I gonna stand on your old fuc'n head if you don't stand the fuc outta hear....lol... I jump in his boat and beat the fuc out of him...that's my side of the story... sue's side says... never knew my cheetah could take off sooo fast....

I'm not like bildoe and able to go to foxes and beat the fuc out of every one there......maybe on sr. bingo night....

 

[2FORCEFULL]

Nope, not really.
Do you need one that goes over 80 either?

nope,...I wish I would have stayed with the 496,.. I have tried to figure out a way to slow it down.. I don't ever run the 29 or 30 prop..I run a 27... but it will hit the rev with that prop..and still go too fast..

but it does rocket out of the hole and sip fuel on cruise,... I know you and know you don't care... but have you ever got top speed out of yours?

i'm guessing middle 70's?.... sure is a pretty boat.... great all round..

 

[Stainless]

I have this happen all the time, in fact almost every time headed north from site 6 to the river...boats coming at me head on.... I change corse and head to the right....as we get closer he heads to his left:eek... wtf...so I go closer to shore...so does he... by now i'm stopped and off plane.....I say learn to drive it's free:thumbsup he say fuc you, I go where ever I want...:rolleyes

the next thing.... out in the big water(the pond part of havasu) headed north to the river... boat to my right is gonna hit me coming from the channel.... I'm in the stand down boat so I slow the speed alter my coarse to the right...you guessed it... mr nice guy also slows way down...now I'm in a collision coarse again... slow more and more to the right

same thing... now we are both at idle speed.... I say you need to learn to drive... he says the same and adds that he slowed down to let me pass...and don't tell him how to drive

I say you are the stand on boat... suspposed to maintain your speed... he says " I gonna stand on your old fuc'n head if you don't stand the fuc outta hear....lol... I jump in his boat and beat the fuc out of him...that's my side of the story... sue's side says... never knew my cheetah could take off sooo fast....

I'm not like bildoe and able to go to foxes and beat the fuc out of every one there......maybe on sr. bingo night....

I've had this happen too, both as the stand on vessel and give way. Obvious they don't know, so I just figure out the best way to exit the situation.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

I've had this happen too, both as the stand on vessel and give way. Obvious they don't know, so I just figure out the best way to exit the situation.

what about at the bar,... did you kick everyones ass?

 

[guest hs]

I have learned as I get older to just shut my mouth and avoid the situation. Its hard to do sometimes and cant help it but Im much better then I used to be as a young man in my 20's

 

[RiverDave]

So that still requires a new law, right? It's all well and good to say that if everybody followed the nav rules perfectly there would be no accidents; the problem is how few people seem to know and scrupulously follow those rules. And we have 2-3 million visitors each summer on this stretch of river with maybe a 15 cops to enforce and educate all of them. Mohave County said in newspaper they wrote about fifteen tickets this weekend. You think that is because there were only fifteen violations out there or do they pick and chose and only go after the most egregious stuff? I can say that I personally need to send out 13 tickets today for folks going at full plane through wakeless areas (yep, lots of PWCs and probably quite a few rentals). But how many violations do you suppose are ever written for a "reasonable and prudent" violation? I've written one in five seasons here because it is mushy, unenforceable language. I'd rather have well-written, intelligent laws based on measurable standards and repeal some of the dross. If I see a boat doing 150 down the river on Labor Day I'd like to be able to deal with that situation now, because I don't have the ability to follow him around until he blasts past a pontoon boat at 10' or rips though a group of boats in a blind corner.

People always have different ways of looking at things.. Someone told me once that life is like a diamond, and there are many different facets of a diamond. You might be looking down one facet at the center, and I'm on the other side looking down another. Being that your on the enforcement side of things, your instant line of thinking is "We have 2-3 million visitors each summer and only 15 cops.. We only wrote fifteen tickets this weekend and that number should be higher because there is more violations."

My first thought is.. If there's 2-3 million visitors each summer, and the accident stats are as low as they are (2-3 a season maybe.. 4?) Your more likely to get whacked by the Clinton's then get killed in a boating accident in Havasu.. We don't need more enforcement.

It's just frustrating how people can blame the guy going straight at 35 mph.

Look Jeff it's your fault.. You're gonna have to step your speed up to at least 130 so you don't get run over.. Thanks in advance for your cooperation. (That was a joke for those that have no humor)

sues boat is the same... half the power , and still more than it needs for what we do... the same cheetah deck has been over 130 mph... why ...just to see I guess... do I want a deck boat the does over 100 no...

Somebody built a 130mph Wild Cat? I'd love to do a feature on that boat if it truly exists.

I have this happen all the time, in fact almost every time headed north from site 6 to the river...boats coming at me head on.... I change corse and head to the right....as we get closer he heads to his left:eek... wtf...so I go closer to shore...so does he... by now i'm stopped and off plane.....I say learn to drive it's free:thumbsup he say fuc you, I go where ever I want...:rolleyes

the next thing.... out in the big water(the pond part of havasu) headed north to the river... boat to my right is gonna hit me coming from the channel.... I'm in the stand down boat so I slow the speed alter my coarse to the right...you guessed it... mr nice guy also slows way down...now I'm in a collision coarse again... slow more and more to the right

same thing... now we are both at idle speed.... I say you need to learn to drive... he says the same and adds that he slowed down to let me pass...and don't tell him how to drive

I say you are the stand on boat... suspposed to maintain your speed... he says " I gonna stand on your old fuc'n head if you don't stand the fuc outta hear....lol... I jump in his boat and beat the fuc out of him...that's my side of the story... sue's side says... never knew my cheetah could take off sooo fast....

I'm not like bildoe and able to go to foxes and beat the fuc out of every one there......maybe on sr. bingo night....

If you are having a problem with other drivers everytime you go out on the water, than the problem is.....


I'm just saying I go boating all the time, and we rarely have problems. I'm thinking we are back to trying to prove some point on the internet again, and not based on what's actually going on. Because common sense says if every time you drove a boat what you described happened you probably wouldn't be boating in Havasu you would go somewhere else..

Common sense also says that there probably isn't a 130 mph Cheetah Wildcat out there, but I'll take it for face value and offer up an article and whatever else it takes to feature it. Someone else already wrote an article about something similar awhile back so I can draw a lot of inspiration from it.

Cheetah Wildcat Article

RD

 

[Stainless]

what about at the bar,... did you kick everyones ass?

Lol, no that shit hurts. [emoji3]

 

[Headless hula]

That's funny.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

People always have different ways of looking at things.. Someone told me once that life is like a diamond, and there are many different facets of a diamond. You might be looking down one facet at the center, and I'm on the other side looking down another. Being that your on the enforcement side of things, your instant line of thinking is "We have 2-3 million visitors each summer and only 15 cops.. We only wrote fifteen tickets this weekend and that number should be higher because there is more violations."

My first thought is.. If there's 2-3 million visitors each summer, and the accident stats are as low as they are (2-3 a season maybe.. 4?) Your more likely to get whacked by the Clinton's then get killed in a boating accident in Havasu.. We don't need more enforcement.





Look Jeff it's your fault.. You're gonna have to step your speed up to at least 130 so you don't get run over.. Thanks in advance for your cooperation. (That was a joke for those that have no humor)



Somebody built a 130mph Wild Cat? I'd love to do a feature on that boat if it truly exists.




If you are having a problem with other drivers everytime you go out on the water, than the problem is.....


I'm just saying I go boating all the time, and we rarely have problems. I'm thinking we are back to trying to prove some point on the internet again, and not based on what's actually going on. Because common sense says if every time you drove a boat what you described happened you probably wouldn't be boating in Havasu you would go somewhere else..

Common sense also says that there probably isn't a 130 mph Cheetah Wildcat out there, but I'll take it for face value and offer up an article and whatever else it takes to feature it. Someone else already wrote an article about something similar awhile back so I can draw a lot of inspiration from it.

Cheetah Wildcat Article

RD

call preston... he built a high power one... went to the Ozarks or somewhere out there????the boat is an up graded copy of sues...same paint triple silver trailer...

so if you get passed at 120.... it's not sues boat or if the bimini is down

 

[RiverDave]

call preston... he built a high power one... went to the Ozarks or somewhere out there????the boat is an up graded copy of sues...same paint triple silver trailer...

so if you get passed at 120.... it's not sues boat or if the bimini is down

I don't get passed Steve.. I just keep turning in front of the faster boats so they have to slow down and stop.. Then when they tell me to learn how to drive it's free I tell them to F O!

RD

 

[guest hs]

People always have different ways of looking at things.. Someone told me once that life is like a diamond, and there are many different facets of a diamond. You might be looking down one facet at the center, and I'm on the other side looking down another. Being that your on the enforcement side of things, your instant line of thinking is "We have 2-3 million visitors each summer and only 15 cops.. We only wrote fifteen tickets this weekend and that number should be higher because there is more violations."

My first thought is.. If there's 2-3 million visitors each summer, and the accident stats are as low as they are (2-3 a season maybe.. 4?) Your more likely to get whacked by the Clinton's then get killed in a boating accident in Havasu.. We don't need more enforcement.





Look Jeff it's your fault.. You're gonna have to step your speed up to at least 130 so you don't get run over.. Thanks in advance for your cooperation. (That was a joke for those that have no humor)



Somebody built a 130mph Wild Cat? I'd love to do a feature on that boat if it truly exists.




If you are having a problem with other drivers everytime you go out on the water, than the problem is.....


I'm just saying I go boating all the time, and we rarely have problems. I'm thinking we are back to trying to prove some point on the internet again, and not based on what's actually going on. Because common sense says if every time you drove a boat what you described happened you probably wouldn't be boating in Havasu you would go somewhere else..

Common sense also says that there probably isn't a 130 mph Cheetah Wildcat out there, but I'll take it for face value and offer up an article and whatever else it takes to feature it. Someone else already wrote an article about something similar awhile back so I can draw a lot of inspiration from it.

Cheetah Wildcat Article

RD

Dave, the Clinton comment it priceless!

 

[Andy01]

This looks fun...... Bills 32

[video=youtube;Uj6GWp_h1d0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj6GWp_h1d0[/video]

 

[Taboma]

Pretty cool, should you need to do some underwater drilling, :eek Like mounting a transducer or underwater light without having to pull your boat, would be one example

https://nemopowertools.com/product/nemo-v2-divers-edition-50m-showcase/

 

[Riverbound]

I'm not like bildoe and able to go to foxes and beat the fuc out of every one there......maybe on sr. bingo night....

I miss Billdo.... this Bill guy isn't fun like that guy was.

 

[Ziggy]

I miss Billdo.... this Bill guy isn't fun like that guy was.

Marraige changes things a little

 

[2FORCEFULL]

This looks fun...... Bills 32

[video=youtube;Uj6GWp_h1d0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj6GWp_h1d0[/video]

never seen 170.... does it say " lucky enough" on the back?

 

[Riverbound]

Marraige changes things a little

Well that and now if I were to get sued I would actually have something to lose......:eek

 

[rrrr]

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I dunno if it's been posted in this thread, and I dunno if anyone's interested, but there's an easy way to convert miles per hour to feet per second. Multiply the speed in MPH by 1.5 and that'll put you really close to speed in FPS.

The figure is actually MPH X 1.4667 but AFAIK no one on RDP is interested or capable of performing such a complex operation.

So 100 MPH is basically 150 FPS. Doing the math gives one insight into the speed running at the nice round number and allows you to contemplate speed from a different perspective. Given that an average reaction time is about 1 second if you're really on the ball, this shows you that it's pretty important to keep your head on a swivel when you're airing it out.



Posted with no agenda in mind.

 

[SRice]

Good to know that any twin engine cat on havasu at a minimum is traveling 150 covering football fields at a time. [emoji6]

Can we at least bring this convo back to reality and say that they are probably running closer to 100mph maybe 120 mark GPSd.

Just because your water pickup speedo says 60 doesn't mean you're traveling that fast. Also loud exhaust as they pass you does not add mph either. Just ask the jet boat guys. I kid I kid.

SRICE- first thanks for sticking around I think you need to get yourself an avatar. Pm boat cop for ideas [emoji3].

Also in the spirit of boater safety could you talk with RD about possibly posting a sticky to an online boater safety class here? That would be a big step in bridging the gap between LEOs and citizens here.

,

You make a couple excellent points.

 

[SRice]

You're looking at this from an extreme. There are not that many idiots on the water, at least in the multiple lakes and rivers I have frequented in numerous states over the years. This includes heavy fishing venues with fast tournament boats running hard, heavy traffic holidays on Austin's Lake Travis, sharing the InterCoastal Waterway with big tugs pushing 2-8 300' tethered barges, and more.

Again it's safer on the water than on the highway going to and from by a large margin.

How many actual accidents were there on Havasu last week end? I'd guarantee the surround highways and communities had car wrecks by drivers with licenses and driver training.

Don't exaggerate to call for a fix for something that statistically speaking, isn't a problem.:grumble:

Did I read earlier that you have not boated on the Colorado River and Lake Havasu? If not, come on out next 4th of July and get the experience. I boated in South Florida for three years and elsewhere before coming here and this place is unique in my experience.

 

[yz450mm]

RDP sponsored boater education class, with open bar after party afterwards! Free shuttle service provided by Mini Kat, for all participants...

 

[RiverDave]

Did I read earlier that you have not boated on the Colorado River and Lake Havasu? If not, come on out next 4th of July and get the experience. I boated in South Florida for three years and elsewhere before coming here and this place is unique in my experience.

SRice come down to PArker on a holiday weekend.. it will blow your mind! lol.