Not a call out, but what dick

[COCA COLA COWBOY]

Let me know if it was this boat please.

I'm not sure what boat it was. I met a guy at the river that told me his buddy came into some money and took delivery. He went on and on about how they were doing a 100 having a conversation like it was no big deal.

 

[Always Floored]

Floored
I gotta say you handled this way better than I and probably most of the guys here. Props to you. If the boat got so close to splash my crew and there was no reason (i.e. trying to avoid another slower boat) I would be over the top pissed. It really is a small community and location and I am sure within an hour or so, you could have tracked this guy down and at least given him the business. Would it make a difference ??? Would he think about it next time he thought it was cool to buzz another boat, maybe. I am with you as far as watching them haul the mail down the lake from a distance but really, close enough to hose my crew and sleeping kid down, is just uncalled for and unacceptable even on a holiday weekend.

I agree with the comments about not needing any attention drawn to our activities on the "river". The tree huggers and feds are just looking for a excuse to shut it down and a big boat crash with multiple injuries (if they are lucky) might just be the fuel they need???

Policing ourselves is a crummy way to take care of business but if we don't do it, "they" will do it for us.

just saying
rb

I had a similar situation occur in the past, I did handle it differently. It just led to regret. Live and learn

 

[PAL]

A Must Have while going Up River

 

[2FORCEFULL]

how to safely pass a boat at crowded havasu....how about all you hey lam'r with 100 mph boats just slow the fuck down...

this is how laws are made... every one wants to push the line...wtf do you need to go 100 mph for anyways..

go to mead and run the fuc out of it.... oh wait... no one will see you..:rolleyes

next thing coming, and I'm all for it is driving impared...the BAL should be ZERO!!! and I don't give a fuc ...if you drink.... don't drive..period!!!

people out there to have fun... drink feast... and reckless drivers need to stay home...wanna race your boat...go to the boat races....wanna drink... go to the bar

people on here constantly show they drank too much... and speedo's north of 100.... cruising...havasu has become a shit show of acholic's and reckless drivers..

 

[JRS1939]

well there ya go.. only a couple out there.. If you feel legit about it call Tony and describe the boat and I am sure he can at least talk to the owner of the boat and tell him what happened etc. won't get you anywhere but at least the owner will know he did it..

Maybe it was Jason @ Rockstar in a 35 [emoji6]

 

[BHC Vic]

how to safely pass a boat at crowded havasu....how about all you hey lam'r with 100 mph boats just slow the fuck down...

this is how laws are made... every one wants to push the line...wtf do you need to go 100 mph for anyways..

go to mead and run the fuc out of it.... oh wait... no one will see you..:rolleyes

next thing coming, and I'm all for it is driving impared...the BAL should be ZERO!!! and I don't give a fuc ...if you drink.... don't drive..period!!!

people out there to have fun... drink feast... and reckless drivers need to stay home...wanna race your boat...go to the boat races....wanna drink... go to the bar

people on here constantly show they drank too much... and speedo's north of 100.... cruising...havasu has become a shit show of acholic's and reckless drivers..

Lake Mohave for the win [emoji41]

 

[Raffit78]

If only every boat owner can make a stop in here and see some of the lakes do's and don'ts.

Everyone would be much happier.

I have a slow wakeboard boat and enjoy watching big power boats and their rumbling motors. Taking a ride in them. I would hate to see those things doing 50 or 60.... You have a big boat, big power, enjoy the hell out of it. Run it to whatever speed makes you happy.

Nothing worst then seeing a 260k Ferrari sitting on the 210 freeway parking lot.

Just be cautious of your surroundings. Don't be a douche bag. The lake is for all to enjoy.

 

[boatdoc55]

how to safely pass a boat at crowded havasu....how about all you hey lam'r with 100 mph boats just slow the fuck down...

this is how laws are made... every one wants to push the line...wtf do you need to go 100 mph for anyways..

go to mead and run the fuc out of it.... oh wait... no one will see you..:rolleyes

next thing coming, and I'm all for it is driving impared...the BAL should be ZERO!!! and I don't give a fuc ...if you drink.... don't drive..period!!!

people out there to have fun... drink feast... and reckless drivers need to stay home...wanna race your boat...go to the boat races....wanna drink... go to the bar

people on here constantly show they drank too much... and speedo's north of 100.... cruising...havasu has become a shit show of acholic's and reckless drivers..

Couldn't agree with you more Steve!!:thumbsup

 

[Riley1]

Really? Why do you need to go 100? Why do you need to go 70? 50? 35?. Where would that end? We know, at 35 where all the Cali lakes are limited to.

Why do you need to sit in the back seat of a ghost Hallett doin 75?

These questions are dangerous and lead to over regulation.

 

[SRice]

Really? Why do you need to go 100? Why do you need to go 70? 50? 35?. Where would that end? We know, at 35 where all the Cali lakes are limited to.

Why do you need to sit in the back seat of a ghost Hallett doin 75?

These questions are dangerous and lead to over regulation.

You guys are the ones with the expertise and the political clout. You should be the voice for sensible regulations too. Mandatory boater education? Stricter drinking and boating laws? Informed, reasonable speed limits? Tell your politicians what they should be doing to keep the waterways safe for your families, otherwise people with far less boating experience than you may make those decisions for you.

 

[Bigbore500r]

how to safely pass a boat at crowded havasu....how about all you hey lam'r with 100 mph boats just slow the fuck down...

this is how laws are made... every one wants to push the line...wtf do you need to go 100 mph for anyways..

go to mead and run the fuc out of it.... oh wait... no one will see you..:rolleyes

next thing coming, and I'm all for it is driving impared...the BAL should be ZERO!!! and I don't give a fuc ...if you drink.... don't drive..period!!!

people out there to have fun... drink feast... and reckless drivers need to stay home...wanna race your boat...go to the boat races....wanna drink... go to the bar

people on here constantly show they drank too much... and speedo's north of 100.... cruising...havasu has become a shit show of acholic's and reckless drivers..

You just want everyone to slow down to the cheetah's sweet spot [emoji3]

Seriously though - "havasu has become a shit show of alcohol" ? I think most would agree that it is safer now than it was in the 90's in terms of drunk driving

 

[Richard.E]

Maybe it was Jason @ Rockstar in a 35 [emoji6]

I met him this weekend a few times actually. Had a few long conversations with him. Really nice guy IMO.

 

[Old Texan]

You guys are the ones with the expertise and the political clout. You should be the voice for sensible regulations too. Mandatory boater education? Stricter drinking and boating laws? Informed, reasonable speed limits? Tell your politicians what they should be doing to keep the waterways safe for your families, otherwise people with far less boating experience than you may make those decisions for you.

This is not a political issue in the sense, politicians too often create issues where none/few exist. Politicians are too often lawyers and have tendencies to paint hypothetical pictures of doom and gloom. They seem to have some genetic need to create revenue paths by scaring folks into thinking more laws will solve any potential issue. Keep them out of everyday business is to keep our rights and freedoms safe. The suggestions above reak of politicism in the sense described.

I am in TX and have boated extensively here and in several other states. Never been to Havasu, so my knowledge of it is based on what I read on this forum. But I do not believe there to be any major difference between Havasu and the places I have been.

This thread is based on 1 incident involving speed and poor judgement. Although other incidents have been loosely referenced, we have not any specific incident referenced in which there was a bad crash or tragedy. That very fact should carry a tremendous amount of weight as to boating being relatively safe. When the number of boats on the water in the nation is factored in, we again see boating is far safer than diving on the highway to and from the waterways.

My point is we do not need to ruffle up feathers of politicians without a serious issue needing attention. There will be accidents and incidents just due to sheer numbers. But overall, even on high traffic weekends and holidays, our sport is a safe one. The best advice on this thread is to keep all boaters informed and aware of etiquette and rules of the road. Use common sense, be aware of surroundings, understand the vessel you command, keep passengers in check, and drive defensively.

Bad seeds, drunks, show offs, and such will be weeded out. Sadly, these types will always appear so we need to be on the look out for them. More rules and laws are not the answer, common sense among the whole of the sport is what needs to be done every minute on the water. Boating is a freedom we need to protect. We currently have rights to open water and speeds. Common sense while on the water will protect these rights.

 

[wishiknew]

You just want everyone to slow down to the cheetah's sweet spot [emoji3]

Seriously though - "havasu has become a shit show of alcohol" ? I think most would agree that it is safer now than it was in the 90's in terms of drunk driving

His Cheetah has a sweet spot with 3 numbers in it !!! (sorry its Sues Cheetah) LOL

 

[Always Floored]

You guys are the ones with the expertise and the political clout. You should be the voice for sensible regulations too. Mandatory boater education? Stricter drinking and boating laws? Informed, reasonable speed limits? Tell your politicians what they should be doing to keep the waterways safe for your families, otherwise people with far less boating experience than you may make those decisions for you.

I don't want to see any politician regulate anything. I would like to see a boater who was in the wrong be cited and educated. The person in the wrong should suffer, not everyone.

I would like to keep my freedom, thank you

 

[2FORCEFULL]

You just want everyone to slow down to the cheetah's sweet spot [emoji3]

Seriously though - "havasu has become a shit show of alcohol" ? I think most would agree that it is safer now than it was in the 90's in terms of drunk driving

being serious, it was a mistake I made to build the boat with a 525...it performed perfect with the 496...the cruise speed of 35 of the day is now 60...the cheetah would cruise 60 effortless...it would get on plane in seconds....I'm amased at the time it takes some of those high powered boats to get on plane....I sit there and watch the flat billers, sitting on the floor of their boat behind water spotted ,glaring canopys.. with total loss of the water in front of them..their Idea is that everyone needs to stay out of their way rediculous and dangerous... now add alcohol to an un experienced driver that thinks they need to go to the most crowded area on the west coast and run on pin every where they go..

wanna challenge???? wanna be a great family boat builder?????make a boat that performs better with the same power...

I would vote for a top speed limit in havasu as it has got way out of hand in my opinion... the days of bringing out your hot rod boat on wed. and making a few hot laps have gone..

no one is there to see you....LOL...

I ask the big wallet guys all the time.... do you ever run at mead??? they all answer the same...that place is dead...so might as well go to havasu and try to kill some one

that whole area up the river from havasu to topoc is gonna get closed , and the reason is.......dumb ass people with no consideration,... drivers that don't know and won't obey water way laws..driving on the wrong side of the river,... no yielding... don't know the difference from stand down to stand on..don't know port side from parking lot...

un safe passing...driving too fast for the situation...putting others in danger of their poor judgement

the water ways,air ways,and road ways...all have regulations...you have to be able to predict what on coming traffic is gonna... or is supposed to do...

if you are driving at 100... and come up on a crowded area...you have to slow down... no one has to get out of your way... it's not your drive way...

now add wake board boats... those boats where designed to be used on private lakes and closed coarse competition...if they are gonna allow then in open public... they need to have a wake size limit..

wake boarders are like skate boarders... they don't wanna go to the skate park....they wanna go to the crowded mall to be seen...hey-lam:rolleyes

 

[Wicky]

This reminded me of something similar that happened to my Dad and myself when I was about 6yrs old. We were fishing next to the shore at Silverwood and a jetbote pulling a skier did a fly-by.
Skier sprays the hell out of us, as does the spray from the jet. My dad, in our 13ft Valco, instantly had the motor started and headed towards the jetbote after he dropped the skier. By the time we reached him, he had beached the boat. My dad always had an extra large, 1 gallon coffee can to bail water out of the leaky, riveted, aluminum boat.
My dad was pissed and grabbed the can, filled it full of water, and started dowsing the jetbote's motor with water one gallon at a time. I still remember hearing the chrome and rest of the motor popping like firecrackers as the cold water was doing some serious damage. Jetbote guy started to approach and Dad said, "I wouldn't do that if I were you."
We pulled away and the jetbote hopefully learned a lesson or, perhaps he now owns a DCB. Come close to my boat with my son in it, expect a treble hook headed your direction. Fisherman Justice.

 

[SJP]

Guys - I know we are past Labor Day - but we are a long way from winter. Plenty of boating still left this season. :thumbsup

 

[2FORCEFULL]

This is not a political issue in the sense, politicians too often create issues where none/few exist. Politicians are too often lawyers and have tendencies to paint hypothetical pictures of doom and gloom. They seem to have some genetic need to create revenue paths by scaring folks into thinking more laws will solve any potential issue. Keep them out of everyday business is to keep our rights and freedoms safe. The suggestions above reak of politicism in the sense described.

I am in TX and have boated extensively here and in several other states. Never been to Havasu, so my knowledge of it is based on what I read on this forum. But I do not believe there to be any major difference between Havasu and the places I have been.

This thread is based on 1 incident involving speed and poor judgement. Although other incidents have been loosely referenced, we have not any specific incident referenced in which there was a bad crash or tragedy. That very fact should carry a tremendous amount of weight as to boating being relatively safe. When the number of boats on the water in the nation is factored in, we again see boating is far safer than diving on the highway to and from the waterways.

My point is we do not need to ruffle up feathers of politicians without a serious issue needing attention. There will be accidents and incidents just due to sheer numbers. But overall, even on high traffic weekends and holidays, our sport is a safe one. The best advice on this thread is to keep all boaters informed and aware of etiquette and rules of the road. Use common sense, be aware of surroundings, understand the vessel you command, keep passengers in check, and drive defensively.

Bad seeds, drunks, show offs, and such will be weeded out. Sadly, these types will always appear so we need to be on the look out for them. More rules and laws are not the answer, common sense among the whole of the sport is what needs to be done every minute on the water. Boating is a freedom we need to protect. We currently have rights to open water and speeds. Common sense while on the water will protect these rights.

Freedom =Good parenting and common sense, with out good parenting and common sense... laws have to be made.... people now do things with out regard to respect others, and in result put others in danger...people do and say things to get the biggest reaction from others.....common sense says you can't drive an indy car on the freeway,

you can't say ,... it's not that un safe, only one person was killed....what if it was your son.

I don't wanna be out boating on the look out for idiots...drunks,..and reckless drivers.....nor do I wanna have to have thicker skin so disrespectful people can run their mouths

 

[Magic34]

This is a call out thread :thumbsup

All orange with some other colors? Name on the back or couldn't see it?

Totally reckless and uncalled for. There is no reason for a operator, rich or poor, big boat or small boat to pass that close. You should never lose sight of the river in front of you because of another boats roost from his jet or propeller's. What if a opposing boat cuts behind the boat that passed you, they can't see you, you can't see them, and BOOM you have a head on because someone is in a big hurry to pass you. It amazes me people cannot back off the throttle, get a better line and proceed. There are a lot of big cats on the water now running well beyond 140-150. Insurance is relatively easy to get now on those. That hasn't always been the case.

One bad accident up river will likely bring a lot of attention right back to a wakeless speed or the beginning of a speed limit on sections of the lake, then the entire lake.

Agreed. 1 equipment failure at the wrong time, boat hooks a little and people are dead in this situation.

 

[OCTANE MARINE]

Not many All orange cats! But it wasn't us either! Wish we were there though! Maybe we will see some of you at Lake Powell Challenge!

 

[2FORCEFULL]

This reminded me of something similar that happened to my Dad and myself when I was about 6yrs old. We were fishing next to the shore at Silverwood and a jetbote pulling a skier did a fly-by.
Skier sprays the hell out of as does the spray from the jet. My dad, in our 13ft Valco, instantly had the motor started and headed towards the jetbote after he dropped the skier. By the time we reached him, he had beached the boat. My dad always had an extra large, 1 gallon coffee can to bail water out of the leaky, riveted, aluminum boat.
My dad was pissed and grabbed the can, filled it full of water, and started dowsing the jetbote's motor with water one gallon at a time. I still remember hearing the chrome and rest of the motor popping like firecrackers as the cold water was doing some serious damage. Jetbote guy started to approach and Dad said, "I wouldn't do that if I were you."
We pulled away and the jetbote hopefully learned a lesson or, perhaps he now owns a DCB. Come close to my boat with my son in it, expect a treble hook headed your direction. Fisherman Justice.

do you have a pic of the extra large one gallon can????

this reminds me of cruising through the channel.... kid shoots me with a water gun..blast our boat, and my face with water....I go back and ,even though I'm pissed,... confront the parents standing there.... Mom says... it's just water... I say ok...tell the kid... shoot her with the gun...in the face....he does....then I say shoot the boat next..their boat didn't have a spot on it... poor guy gringed when the kid started squirt'n the boat....the dad finally says.... alright buddy you made your point...we're sorry and it won't happen again...thank you ..."HAVE A NICE DAY!

 

[Andy01]

You just described DCB's entire business model, seriously.

Money that finds water is not a life long boater and therefore drive his new 300-400k boat like his does sports car.

This is way off base for the DCB clients that I know and insure. I insure A LOT of the M series and F's. I wrote most of the new ones this year. I can tell you first hand almost all DCB clients I know and insure have been life long boaters. Moved up over the years, or set goals ran their little boats and finally found the place in life to buy the ultra fast 1,350 M series. DCB owners are some of the coolest crowd I've hung with and have enjoyed boating for years.

I'm not sure what boat it was. I met a guy at the river that told me his buddy came into some money and took delivery. He went on and on about how they were doing a 100 having a conversation like it was no big deal.

He is correct, running 100 in a M31, M35, M41 most boats with the wrap around at 100 are like driving my car down the freeway at 75, super quiet and super smooth. You can just cruise and chat, it's wonderful!! Traffic and conditions aside it is super stable and safe.

You guys are the ones with the expertise and the political clout. You should be the voice for sensible regulations too. Mandatory boater education? Stricter drinking and boating laws? Informed, reasonable speed limits? Tell your politicians what they should be doing to keep the waterways safe for your families, otherwise people with far less boating experience than you may make those decisions for you.

This is a great post, if you want change or if change is coming and you want it to go your way, sway it your way. "Your voice, your vote". Every voice, letter, e mail, phone call counts come election time. Have your elected officials doing what you want them to do. We are a big force, look how everyone attended the meetings and beat out the proposed no wake area this year. Big thanks to Dave on that.

Seriously though - "havasu has become a shit show of alcohol" ? I think most would agree that it is safer now than it was in the 90's in terms of drunk driving

Having grown up boating in Havasu my entire life, and being 43 now I agree to this 100 percent. It has changed so much, there are way more responsible boaters now then years ago. There are also a heck of a lot more boaters then years ago. I know as a kid there was never talk of "one beer one water" or anything like that. My grandpa drank beer all day, didn't give a shit, I don't ever remember him being drunk either but hell that was a long time ago.

this is how laws are made... every one wants to push the line...wtf do you need to go 100 mph for anyways..

if you drink.... don't drive..period!!!


people on here constantly show they drank too much... and speedo's north of 100.... cruising...havasu has become a shit show of acholic's and reckless drivers..

Why drive a 100mph? Why buy and sell boats? Why buy and sell motorhomes? Why post all of it on RDP? Because it's fun and you enjoy it. Speaking from ownership and experience nothing beats a great line in a big cat at 100 or 150 mph. It's a blast! Can't do it in a sports car, can't do it on the streets in anything. But if your lucky enough to own a big fast cat, you are lucky enough to run the big numbers and enjoy it. Cruising at 100 in a cat with a wrap around is second to nothing. I ran in the ocean on Sunday with a client, he pulled up in his new Ferrari, we went out in his 52 Outerlimits for the afternoon. Super cool guy, great boat. I asked him what he liked about boating compared to the car, nothing. Really? Liked the limitless speeds and fun of running his boat verses driving his Ferrari 55 down PCH, he's a world travel and business owner. Says fast cars are a waste with out a autobahn. I'm surprised you ask the question why "run 100".

I can't ever remember seeing a post from a member with his speedo over 100 doing a shot, doing a beer bong. From what I see most fast boat guys don't drink at all or very very little.

This thread is based on 1 incident involving speed and poor judgement. Although other incidents have been loosely referenced, we have not any specific incident referenced in which there was a bad crash or tragedy. That very fact should carry a tremendous amount of weight as to boating being relatively safe. When the number of boats on the water in the nation is factored in, we again see boating is far safer than diving on the highway to and from the waterways.

Great perspective, one guy, one incident. There are thousands of boats on the water every weekend all over the US, and lots of uncomfortable passes or close calls. That said it should all of a sudden be seen as the norm.

I would like to see a boater who was in the wrong be cited and educated.

I'd have to think by now the owner has read this thread and is likely looking back on his pass.

 

[spectra3279]

I know I may have passed a pontoon or 2 a little close. But I was just above planing speed and it was actually more safe to continue than falling affordable plane and having that long deck stuck up in the air where I would lose visibility

 

[Why Not]

This is way off base for the DCB clients that I know and insure. I insure A LOT of the M series and F's. I wrote most of the new ones this year. I can tell you first hand almost all DCB clients I know and insure have been life long boaters. Moved up over the years, or set goals ran their little boats and finally found the place in life to buy the ultra fast 1,350 M series. DCB owners are some of the coolest crowd I've hung with and have enjoyed boating for years.


He is correct, running 100 in a M31, M35, M41 most boats with the wrap around at 100 are like driving my car down the freeway at 75, super quiet and super smooth. You can just cruise and chat, it's wonderful!! Traffic and conditions aside it is super stable and safe.


This is a great post, if you want change or if change is coming and you want it to go your way, sway it your way. "Your voice, your vote". Every voice, letter, e mail, phone call counts come election time. Have your elected officials doing what you want them to do. We are a big force, look how everyone attended the meetings and beat out the proposed no wake area this year. Big thanks to Dave on that.

Having grown up boating in Havasu my entire life, and being 43 now I agree to this 100 percent. It has changed so much, there are way more responsible boaters now then years ago. There are also a heck of a lot more boaters then years ago. I know as a kid there was never talk of "one beer one water" or anything like that. My grandpa drank beer all day, didn't give a shit, I don't ever remember him being drunk either but hell that was a long time ago.

Why drive a 100mph? Why buy and sell boats? Why buy and sell motorhomes? Why post all of it on RDP? Because it's fun and you enjoy it. Speaking from ownership and experience nothing beats a great line in a big cat at 100 or 150 mph. It's a blast! Can't do it in a sports car, can't do it on the streets in anything. But if your lucky enough to own a big fast cat, you are lucky enough to run the big numbers and enjoy it. Cruising at 100 in a cat with a wrap around is second to nothing. I ran in the ocean on Sunday with a client, he pulled up in his new Ferrari, we went out in his 52 Outerlimits for the afternoon. Super cool guy, great boat. I asked him what he liked about boating compared to the car, nothing. Really? Liked the limitless speeds and fun of running his boat verses driving his Ferrari 55 down PCH, he's a world travel and business owner. Says fast cars are a waste with out a autobahn. I'm surprised you ask the question why "run 100".

I can't ever remember seeing a post from a member with his speedo over 100 doing a shot, doing a beer bong. From what I see most fast boat guys don't drink at all or very very little.

Great perspective, one guy, one incident. There are thousands of boats on the water every weekend all over the US, and lots of uncomfortable passes or close calls. That said it should all of a sudden be seen as the norm.

I'd have to think by now the owner has read this thread and is likely looking back on his pass.

Well said Andy! If you're going to be at any of the upcoming events, I'd like to shake your hand. You've been great to work with, it is very much appreciated!

 

[t&y]

You guys are the ones with the expertise and the political clout. You should be the voice for sensible regulations too.
Mandatory boater education?

Not opposed to this at all. BUT... I think you should add that in order to RENT a power boat or Jet Ski you need to show proof of boater education cert. No cert, no rental.

Stricter drinking and boating laws?

Nope. Enforce the ones we already have. NO NEED FOR ANY NEW ONES

Informed, reasonable speed limits?

Smaller lakes like Perris or Elsinore on weekends I completely agree. Bigger lakes, FUCK NO!!!! Make it a part of any boater education that is put in place. Leave the rest of it alone. I would suggest that any politician or any boatcop out there issuing tickets be experienced in power boats as well. 50 in a fishing skiff can be sketchy were as 50 on some of these bigger boats 25' and up is a snooze fest.

Tell your politicians what they should be doing to keep the waterways safe for your families, otherwise people with far less boating experience than you may make those decisions for you.

Which is the problem. Educate the politicians and public on the matter before suggesting new restrictions:thumbsup

 

[2FORCEFULL]

Not opposed to this at all. BUT... I think you should add that in order to RENT a power boat or Jet Ski you need to show proof of boater education cert. No cert, no rental.



Nope. Enforce the ones we already have. NO NEED FOR ANY NEW ONES



Smaller lakes like Perris or Elsinore on weekends I completely agree. Bigger lakes, FUCK NO!!!! Make it a part of any boater education that is put in place. Leave the rest of it alone. I would suggest that any politician or any boatcop out there issuing tickets be experienced in power boats as well. 50 in a fishing skiff can be sketchy were as 50 on some of these bigger boats 25' and up is a snooze fest.



Which is the problem. Educate the politicians and public on the matter before suggesting new restrictions:thumbsup

havasu is a pond on the river...

 

[2FORCEFULL]

This is way off base for the DCB clients that I know and insure. I insure A LOT of the M series and F's. I wrote most of the new ones this year. I can tell you first hand almost all DCB clients I know and insure have been life long boaters. Moved up over the years, or set goals ran their little boats and finally found the place in life to buy the ultra fast 1,350 M series. DCB owners are some of the coolest crowd I've hung with and have enjoyed boating for years.


He is correct, running 100 in a M31, M35, M41 most boats with the wrap around at 100 are like driving my car down the freeway at 75, super quiet and super smooth. You can just cruise and chat, it's wonderful!! Traffic and conditions aside it is super stable and safe.


This is a great post, if you want change or if change is coming and you want it to go your way, sway it your way. "Your voice, your vote". Every voice, letter, e mail, phone call counts come election time. Have your elected officials doing what you want them to do. We are a big force, look how everyone attended the meetings and beat out the proposed no wake area this year. Big thanks to Dave on that.

Having grown up boating in Havasu my entire life, and being 43 now I agree to this 100 percent. It has changed so much, there are way more responsible boaters now then years ago. There are also a heck of a lot more boaters then years ago. I know as a kid there was never talk of "one beer one water" or anything like that. My grandpa drank beer all day, didn't give a shit, I don't ever remember him being drunk either but hell that was a long time ago.

Why drive a 100mph? Why buy and sell boats? Why buy and sell motorhomes? Why post all of it on RDP? Because it's fun and you enjoy it. Speaking from ownership and experience nothing beats a great line in a big cat at 100 or 150 mph. It's a blast! Can't do it in a sports car, can't do it on the streets in anything. But if your lucky enough to own a big fast cat, you are lucky enough to run the big numbers and enjoy it. Cruising at 100 in a cat with a wrap around is second to nothing. I ran in the ocean on Sunday with a client, he pulled up in his new Ferrari, we went out in his 52 Outerlimits for the afternoon. Super cool guy, great boat. I asked him what he liked about boating compared to the car, nothing. Really? Liked the limitless speeds and fun of running his boat verses driving his Ferrari 55 down PCH, he's a world travel and business owner. Says fast cars are a waste with out a autobahn. I'm surprised you ask the question why "run 100".

I can't ever remember seeing a post from a member with his speedo over 100 doing a shot, doing a beer bong. From what I see most fast boat guys don't drink at all or very very little.

Great perspective, one guy, one incident. There are thousands of boats on the water every weekend all over the US, and lots of uncomfortable passes or close calls. That said it should all of a sudden be seen as the norm.

I'd have to think by now the owner has read this thread and is likely looking back on his pass.

picking a line at 100-150 mph is not only dangerous to yourself and all the family's around... it 's flat out against the law!!!

being lucky enough to not give a shit about anyone but yourself is not on my lists of wants...

 

[2FORCEFULL]

two things I taught my sons... respect theirselves and others..

anytime you are doing something think... what if everybody was doing it....

like driving on the wrong side of the river doing a 100 plus around blind corners.. almost every time I see that it's a high powered boat...

if you have to pick a line.... you're going too fast

pretty sure you could find a place to drive a sports car 150, but at the same time... there are race tracks... and you sure wouldn't at 5pm on main street...

running down the river at 3pm 100-150 mph makes about as much sense:rolleyes

can't amagin being a insurance agent and posting on a public web site that it's ok to run havasu at 150 mph, ..."LUCKY ENOUGH" fuc you po folks:cool

 

[Clunk]

two things I taught my sons... respect theirselves and others..

anytime you are doing something think... what if everybody was doing it....

like driving on the wrong side of the river doing a 100 plus around blind corners.. almost every time I see that it's a high powered boat...

if you have to pick a line.... you're going too fast

pretty sure you could find a place to drive a sports car 150, but at the same time... there are race tracks... and you sure wouldn't at 5pm on main street...

running down the river at 3pm 100-150 mph makes about as much sense:rolleyes

can't amagin being a insurance agent and posting on a public web site that it's ok to run havasu at 150 mph, ..."LUCKY ENOUGH" fuc you po folks:cool

I'm thinking you read too far into what he said. No where in his post did he say anything about picking a line on the river....or havasu for that matter. I think he's implying when you can find a spot where you're not endangering anyone else, you can find that line and put the sticks to it.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

here's something to think about....150 mph travels 220' per second....in 6 seconds you travel a quarter mile...1320 ft

try'n to "PICK A LINE" with boats 50' in front of you , you have less than a quarter of a second to react to what they might do..:eek

in a quarter mile stretch on the river...on sat. you can see average of lets say a dozen boats... that means you have 1/2 a second for each boat to react what they will do..


they're not fuc'n pylons... you don't pick a line... they're boats with family and friends on boat

so here's what really happens..fuc them people outta my way....i'm "LUCKY ENOUGH"rolleyes:rolleyes

 

[Andy01]

Well said Andy! If you're going to be at any of the upcoming events, I'd like to shake your hand. You've been great to work with, it is very much appreciated!

I'll be around the DCB regatta. Maybe we can catch up then, or monster bash.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

I'm thinking you read too far into what he said. No where in his post did he say anything about picking a line on the river....or havasu for that matter. I think he's implying when you can find a spot where you're not endangering anyone else, you can find that line and put the sticks to it.

I didn't quote anyones post... I made my own...but where in havasu is it safe on the river to run 150 mph?

the only reason to pick a line is cause there are boat there...other wise you can go in a circle if you want...:thumbsup

 

[Why Not]

I'll track you down at the Regatta

 

[Wicky]

I didn't quote anyones post... I made my own...but where in havasu is it safe on the river to run 150 mph?

the only reason to pick a line is cause there are boat there...other wise you can go in a circle if you want...:thumbsup

Where in the World is it safe anymore period? Sometimes I wish we still had dinosaurs to thin the herd.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

the same thing that's happening at the dunes, is gonna happen on the water...

ourtax dolars are wasted on extra LE and flight for life...

they have left moderation to the public..all the lucky people are fuc'n it up for the rest of us.....now there are coming with the laws and the closeurs

 

[Wicky]

Every new law congress passes, creates a new batch of criminals.

 

[Andy01]

I'm thinking you read too far into what he said. No where in his post did he say anything about picking a line on the river....or havasu for that matter. I think he's implying when you can find a spot where you're not endangering anyone else, you can find that line and put the sticks to it.

Correct, Steve missed the boat on this one, he wasn't "lucky enough" to figure out my words. No where did I state it was okay to pick a line in a crowded water way and do 150mph, nor would I. That would be unsafe and reckless, what I did state is to have a great line, clear of traffic in a fast cat is a great way to spend a couple minutes doing 150mph passing Cheetah deck boats with detuned 525's and an angry muffler shop owner onboard, hi Steve..

 

[RiverDave]

picking a line at 100-150 mph is not only dangerous to yourself and all the family's around... it 's flat out against the law!!!

being lucky enough to not give a shit about anyone but yourself is not on my lists of wants...

I disagree..

two things I taught my sons... respect theirselves and others..

anytime you are doing something think... what if everybody was doing it....

like driving on the wrong side of the river doing a 100 plus around blind corners.. almost every time I see that it's a high powered boat...

if you have to pick a line.... you're going too fast

pretty sure you could find a place to drive a sports car 150, but at the same time... there are race tracks... and you sure wouldn't at 5pm on main street...

running down the river at 3pm 100-150 mph makes about as much sense:rolleyes

can't amagin being a insurance agent and posting on a public web site that it's ok to run havasu at 150 mph, ..."LUCKY ENOUGH" fuc you po folks:cool

Regardless of the speed your boat is traveling the captain is always picking lines (or at least should be) and maintaining lines when they are being overtaken.

 

[Andy01]

if you have to pick a line.... you're going too fast



can't amagin being a insurance agent and posting on a public web site that it's ok to run havasu at 150 mph,

I don't care where you are or what you are doing, if your not looking miles out at 150 and picking a line then you shouldn't be doing it. You pick a line when your driving your wifes deck boat going through the channel in Havasu don't you? Enough said NEXT!

Why wouldn't it be okay to run Havasu at 150mph in a safe area? My policies are written with A rated US admitted carriers that underwrite the risk with the top speed in mind. If it's 150 it says, 150 on the policy. No bullshit policies here, carriers know what they are writing, and who they are writing it for. I'm not saying anything I wouldn't say in front of a carrier.

the only reason to pick a line is cause there are boat there...other wise you can go in a circle if you want...:thumbsup

Like I said, you pick a line in the channel, or going up river. There are boats in front of you. You are the one that decided to add, up river, with boats, at 150, with the Pope on a boat, and Tres Martin yelling to slow down bad line. LOL!!

all the lucky people are fuc'n it up for the rest of us.....

Could you help me out here with who the lucky people are? Are they the ones that work their ass off to buy a nice boat or a house at the lake or river? Born with deep pockets? Married into money? Or the ones that have escaped death by inches, or beat cancer? Who are the lucky ones Steve?

 

[2FORCEFULL]

Where in the World is it safe anymore period? Sometimes I wish we still had dinosaurs to thin the herd.

I wanted to run my trick 21'r to 105 mph..I was at havasu..I headed to the mouth of the river..on a wed after noon.. winter no one in the parking lot... didn't see any boats

then headed out from the river towards site six.....got to speed... and turned back to winsor...sold the boat... had no use for it..

 

[steak&lobster]

Correct, Steve missed the boat on this one, he wasn't "lucky enough" to figure out my words. No where did I state it was okay to pick a line in a crowded water way and do 150mph, nor would I. That would be unsafe and reckless, what I did state is to have a great line, clear of traffic in a fast cat is a great way to spend a couple minutes doing 150mph passing Cheetah deck boats with detuned 525's and an angry muffler shop owner onboard, hi Steve..

O U C H!!!

 

[rush1]

Lets examine that statement Waffles, so we can see how the moderation team of RDP would handle a situation like this.

The RDP Gestapo - Implying that we are heavy handed on the moderation of RDP. (Show me another industry board that is loose as RDP please)

Was quick on deleting the reply lol - Implying we delete a lot of posts on RDP. (The vast majority (something like 95%) of deleted posts on RDP are deleted by the authors of the posts themselves not us.. This one was no exception.


The owner of that dcb mustve been a sponsor - Implying that we delete any content that shows sponsors in a negative context. (That's bullshit as well, I can only recall two posts in 7 years of running this forum that I just flat deleted for that reason.. Count them 2. One was a boat that ended up upside down in Parker, it had an experimental bottom on it and when they were testing they flipped it. The company was highly concerned that the general public would associate the experimental bottom with their production boat and asked to have it removed. I did it. The second was ironically enough was a post that was a general statement about DCB owners.. It was pretty ruthless and I deleted it on my own accord not because they asked me too. I did also remove another post about blue printing bottoms, but it was in the "From the mold" section and that section is just to show case builds not clown commentary.. Had it been in the lounge I woulda let it fly.

So here it is in almost 8 years of running this place I can count one post that falls into your category, and two that would've gotten whacked anyways.. Keep telling me I'm a nazi. Keep telling me we have no integrity here. Or maybe your accusations are off base?

To be completely transparent, there are companies that pay me to PROMOTE their products and services. There has been in at least one example of a company that more or less paid me to help them manage and improve their "image" online as a whole (Not only here, but other sites as well). Delete though? No.. Maybe sway public opinion a little? Absolutely..

To claim we have no integrity though and are heavy handed nazi's? You are all fucked up.. We are the easiest going, most transparent, and HONEST media outlet in this industry PERIOD.

RD

And Dave gave me a free hat once !:thumbsup RD For President (True Story)

 

[Tank]

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Not many All orange cats! But it wasn't us either! Wish we were there though! Maybe we will see some of you at Lake Powell Challenge!

LOOOOOOOOOVE that boat!!!!

 

[RiverDave]

I didn't quote anyones post... I made my own...but where in havasu is it safe on the river to run 150 mph?

the only reason to pick a line is cause there are boat there...other wise you can go in a circle if you want...:thumbsup

To be honest depending on traffic (or lack there of). just about anywhere if you have the room to do it..

I wanted to run my trick 21'r to 105 mph..I was at havasu..I headed to the mouth of the river..on a wed after noon.. winter no one in the parking lot... didn't see any boats

then headed out from the river towards site six.....got to speed... and turned back to winsor...sold the boat... had no use for it..

because nobody saw you do it?

 

[Heylam]

Wow, I never thought I would agree with 2FF as much as I have recently. I would have no issue with speed limits being initiated and enforced over certain areas of Havasu. No reason open speed needs to be allowed over the narrow or congested areas of the lake (gorge, basin by channel, etc.) in my opinion. Plenty of other areas of the lake.

 

[RiverDave]

Wow, I never thought I would agree with 2FF as much as I have recently. I would have no issue with speed limits being initiated and enforced over certain areas of Havasu. No reason open speed needs to be allowed over the narrow or congested areas of the lake (gorge, basin by channel, etc.) in my opinion. Plenty of other areas of the lake.

Well that would make two of you that are wrong.. LOL

It's wednesday afternoon and the Lake and River are for the most part empty.. I wouldn't see a problem running 150 in any part of the lake right now, and to be honest most of the river (straight sections etc..)!

RD

 

[BHC Vic]

Well that would make two of you that are wrong.. LOL

It's wednesday afternoon and the Lake and River are for the most part empty.. I wouldn't see a problem running 150 in any part of the lake right now, and to be honest most of the river (straight sections etc..)!

RD

That's fine and dandy. But since people don't have the common sense to do it on a wed (like 2ff said) and chose to do it on not only a weekend, but a holiday. We are giving the man a chance. [emoji107] I don't care who's right or wrong by we will all care when we all suffer consequences [emoji4]

 

[2FORCEFULL]

To be honest depending on traffic (or lack there of). just about anywhere if you have the room to do it..



because nobody saw you do it?

to be honest dave,..you are one of the safest drivers I know , and letting you drive my boat was because of that...
soooo I have no reply

 

[RiverDave]

to be honest dave,..you are one of the safest drivers I know , and letting you drive my boat was because of that...
soooo I have no reply

LOL..

I have been well over 100 mph in the straight sections of the river a few different times.. It isn't something I'd do when it is congested with traffic. Growing up on Parker the width of the river doesn't bother me much.

RD