MAUI and the Fires

[Travmon]

This is all very disturbing to me on so many levels, We as common sense people have got to get control of our leaders. ALL OF THEM . Politicians that have never set foot in areas that they control ( forest management, water manegment , resource mgmt etc) making life , death and ability to prosper decisions for the rest of us ? We just sunk a beer brand because we banded together, we have ghe power ! What is holding us back? Put a DATE on the calendar I am so ready.

 

[rmarion]

MPD Police admits using barricades and corralling people into the Lahaina

MPD Police admits using barricades and corralling people into the Lahaina front streets as the fires raged on to protect them from downed Powerlines 😳 Note : Many people survived by not complying to t

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[rmarion]

This Local Woman of Maui says

This Local Woman of Maui says "What we are watching is.. These lies fall apart" 👁️ As Maui Officials denies the claims of blocking the Lahaina Frontstreet as the fires raged on entrapping people #Hawa

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[rmarion]

FBI agents have stormed Lahaina to intimidate locals

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[DWC]

FBI agents have stormed Lahaina to intimidate locals

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You lost me on this one.

 

[rmarion]

You lost me on this one.

copy and paste of Maui local, in real time occurrence

 

[rmarion]

More Lahaina, Maui, Hawaii Victims Speak Out

More Lahaina, Maui, Hawaii Victims Speak Out. They Are Telling The World What Happened Was NOT Natural, NOTHING That Happened Was A “Coincidence” Protect yourself from EMF, 5G and Wifi radiations with

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[regor]

Hawaiian Electric Soars After Statement: Power Lines "De-Energized" When Fire Started​

"Jeff Bezos, you got what you wanted. Oprah, you got what you wanted. — F*** us all over".

MON AUG 28, AT 5:50 AM


Hawaiian Electric outlines important facts about what happened on Aug. 8:

• A fire at 6:30 a.m. (the "Morning Fire") appears to have been caused by power lines that fell in high winds.
• The Maui County Fire Department responded to this fire, reported it was "100% contained," left the scene and later declared it had been "extinguished."
• At about 3 p.m., a time when all of Hawaiian Electric's power lines in West Maui had been de-energized for more than six hours, a second fire (the "Afternoon Fire") began in the same area.
• The cause of the devastating Afternoon Fire has not been determined.

 

[DILLIGAF]

Hawaiian Electric Soars After Statement: Power Lines "De-Energized" When Fire Started​

"Jeff Bezos, you got what you wanted. Oprah, you got what you wanted. — F*** us all over".

MON AUG 28, AT 5:50 AM


Hawaiian Electric outlines important facts about what happened on Aug. 8:

• A fire at 6:30 a.m. (the "Morning Fire") appears to have been caused by power lines that fell in high winds.
• The Maui County Fire Department responded to this fire, reported it was "100% contained," left the scene and later declared it had been "extinguished."
• At about 3 p.m., a time when all of Hawaiian Electric's power lines in West Maui had been de-energized for more than six hours, a second fire (the "Afternoon Fire") began in the same area.
• The cause of the devastating Afternoon Fire has not been determined.

Well......this just got a lot more interesting

 

[2Driver]

Hawaiian Electric Soars After Statement: Power Lines "De-Energized" When Fire Started​

"Jeff Bezos, you got what you wanted. Oprah, you got what you wanted. — F*** us all over".

MON AUG 28, AT 5:50 AM


Hawaiian Electric outlines important facts about what happened on Aug. 8:

• A fire at 6:30 a.m. (the "Morning Fire") appears to have been caused by power lines that fell in high winds.
• The Maui County Fire Department responded to this fire, reported it was "100% contained," left the scene and later declared it had been "extinguished."
• At about 3 p.m., a time when all of Hawaiian Electric's power lines in West Maui had been de-energized for more than six hours, a second fire (the "Afternoon Fire") began in the same area.
• The cause of the devastating Afternoon Fire has not been determined.

So much for kicking the dog.
Who’s the government going to blame now for all their mishandling of this disaster.

 

[Ace in the Hole]

Hawaiian Electric Soars After Statement: Power Lines "De-Energized" When Fire Started​

"Jeff Bezos, you got what you wanted. Oprah, you got what you wanted. — F*** us all over".

MON AUG 28, AT 5:50 AM


Hawaiian Electric outlines important facts about what happened on Aug. 8:

• A fire at 6:30 a.m. (the "Morning Fire") appears to have been caused by power lines that fell in high winds.
• The Maui County Fire Department responded to this fire, reported it was "100% contained," left the scene and later declared it had been "extinguished."
• At about 3 p.m., a time when all of Hawaiian Electric's power lines in West Maui had been de-energized for more than six hours, a second fire (the "Afternoon Fire") began in the same area.
• The cause of the devastating Afternoon Fire has not been determined.

Just because heco claims something doesn’t mean it’s true…wouldn’t trust their claims at all…they are scrambling

 

[Sandlord]

Cough-cough

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Just because heco claims something doesn’t mean it’s true…wouldn’t trust their claims at all…they are scrambling

The CA power companies claimed some of the same crap. Reports of failed equipment hours or days before fires, etc.

 

[rmarion]

The evidence is mountain on Lahaina

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Maui police are chasing out locals & notifying them that pictures & videos are not allowed!

Maui police are chasing out locals & notifying them that pictures & videos are not allowed! Look how disinterested they are when asked about the fire!! WOW! Join the healing group: https://t.me/Herbal

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[boatpi]

Stay away from west Maui, but look at this, from Long Beach next month, coach is $237rt, $788 first class.

 

[boatpi]

Anyone has any relatives that have businesses in the tourist industry, they’re going to be in for very hard times. I learned that nearly all west Maui hotels are now occupied by displaced
Locals, and this could be for 6+ months. Hotels in other areas are booked, or jacked prices to $700 a night+. Saw an article that even Mommas Fish House is down 50%. Locals do not use snorkel boats, etc. , so Most are nearly out of business bad situation. I anticipate many will just move to other islands and to Las Vegas.

 

[TPC]

The CA power companies claimed some of the same crap. Reports of failed equipment hours or days before fires, etc.

,,,, and don't forget the smoke filled back room deal at the French laundry with Gov Newsom involving this.

 

[Taboma]

The evidence is mountain on Lahaina

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Maui police are chasing out locals & notifying them that pictures & videos are not allowed!

Maui police are chasing out locals & notifying them that pictures & videos are not allowed! Look how disinterested they are when asked about the fire!! WOW! Join the healing group: https://t.me/Herbal

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If you'd have ventured into our neighborhood following it's wildfire destruction to take pictures or satisfy your "Lookie-Loo" curiosity, you'd have discovered immediately that you were most unwelcome.
We guarded those ashes with far more vigilance then we'd ever guarded our viable possessions, and even more so, we were guarding the privacy of our sufferings and the sanctity of the now sacred ruins that represented our entire lives to that point.

I'm just sharing that for your consideration.

 

[Wedgy]

Blocked off walled off, under guard. No fly zone. Bummer that includes the homeowners from their own property. While "Cleanup?" underway. Which equals destruction of evedence, of peoples remaning personal property in the burn area. That's theft. Burglary of a residence. We shoot Mutherfuckers for that here. But when the government does it, it's fiine, just fine. That's Bullshit. Neighborhood watch, yes. This,? WTF. Coverup.

Also, denied rehab, residence in undestroyed homes, and no residents can start reconstruction or rebuilding for 2 years.

 

[4Waters]

The evidence is mountain on Lahaina

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Maui police are chasing out locals & notifying them that pictures & videos are not allowed!

Maui police are chasing out locals & notifying them that pictures & videos are not allowed! Look how disinterested they are when asked about the fire!! WOW! Join the healing group: https://t.me/Herbal

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They are idiots in that first video. Houses catch fire a mile from the brush fire in the middle of a neighborhood, how could that happen, must be the government. It's called embers idiot, that car could have been driving and the air filter could have caught fire and they pulled over and jumped out. Hate to break it to you but car fires and brush fires have been melting aluminum and glass for decades. Morons

My brother's patrol car, it started in the air filter after an ember got in there.

More melted aluminum (it melts at about 1200°) in Paradise Ca from the camp fire. Must be more government fuckery because brush fires and forest fires only burn at 5-600°.

 

[grumpy88]

Blocked off walled off, under guard. No fly zone. Bummer that includes the homeowners from their own property. While "Cleanup?" underway. Which equals destruction of evedence, of peoples remaning personal property in the burn area. That's theft. Burglary of a residence. We shoot Mutherfuckers for that here. But when the government does it, it's fiine, just fine. That's Bullshit. Neighborhood watch, yes. This,? WTF. Coverup.

Also, denied rehab, residence in undestroyed homes, and no residents can start reconstruction or rebuilding for 2 years.

Is this clean up being done buy local contractors or outside being brought into the island ?

 

[rivermobster]

They are idiots in that first video. Houses catch fire a mile from the brush fire in the middle of a neighborhood, how could that happen, must be the government. It's called embers idiot, that car could have been driving and the air filter could have caught fire and they pulled over and jumped out. Hate to break it to you but car fires and brush fires have been melting aluminum and glass for decades. Morons

My brother's patrol car, it started in the air filter after an ember got in there. View attachment 1271131

Common sense seems to have left the building.

If you'd have ventured into our neighborhood following it's wildfire destruction to take pictures or satisfy your "Lookie-Loo" curiosity, you'd have discovered immediately that you were most unwelcome.
We guarded those ashes with far more vigilance then we'd ever guarded our viable possessions, and even more so, we were guarding the privacy of our sufferings and the sanctity of the now sacred ruins that represented our entire lives to that point.

I'm just sharing that for your consideration.

This ^^^

 

[4Waters]

Common sense seems to have left the building.



This ^^^

You're not kidding. SMH

Maybe they should take a fire behavior and combustion class for a better understanding of what happens in a wildland fire

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

You're not kidding. SMH

Maybe they should take a fire behavior and combustion class for a better understanding of what happens in a wildland fire

It’s easier to blame space lasers.

 

[Badchoices03]

They are idiots in that first video. Houses catch fire a mile from the brush fire in the middle of a neighborhood, how could that happen, must be the government. It's called embers idiot, that car could have been driving and the air filter could have caught fire and they pulled over and jumped out. Hate to break it to you but car fires and brush fires have been melting aluminum and glass for decades. Morons

My brother's patrol car, it started in the air filter after an ember got in there.

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More melted aluminum (it melts at about 1200°) in Paradise Ca from the camp fire. Must be more government fuckery because brush fires and forest fires only burn at 5-600°.

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Don't you dare try to ruin a good conspiracy theory on RDP!!

 

[Heylam]

Don't you dare try to ruin a good conspiracy theory on RDP!!

Yep, go use your intelligence somewhere else. No room for it here.

 

[rmarion]

STRANGER THAN FICTION NEWS

the maui property theft continues...

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[2Driver]

It’s easier to blame space lasers.

Evidence is mountain.

 

[SPFRONTMAN]

As usual the reports vary huge by outlet. Fox torches Puddin head in the opening story. CBS, CNN, NBC bury the story on what amounts to the back page with no negative comments about him.
Libs own the media. Gonna make for a tough 2024.

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BLACK ROCK OWNS "ALL" THE MEDIA!

 

[Eliminator21vdrive]

IDK

https://www.facebook.com/kylebrycesmith/posts/822823422808164

 

[C-2]

When north shore Kauai flooded in 2018, it took them 18 months to reopen a main road. During that time, non resident owners were not allowed to visit their homes.

I can't imagine how long it will take before those poor people can even think about rebuilding.

 

[rivermobster]

Family tells tourists to stop taking photos and snorkeling in Hawaii

"You have tourists taking pictures of the destruction in Lahaina while there's still bodies there," Courtney Lazo told ABC News.

www.insider.com

 

[Tom Slick]

I would like to preface this by saying I mean no disrespect for the families effected by this tragedy, but I have a question: On social media I keep seeing posts/videos about how 1,000's people are still missing. I see posts about how 2,000 children are missing from Maui schools. But I never see posts or videos from distraught parents and family members wondering where their loved ones are at. I mean if 2,000 kids are missing 3 weeks after the fires, why isn't there complete crazy outrage from parents wanting to know where their kids are. Why aren't school officials reporting about all of the missing kids. Is this just BS from those on social media that are gas lighting us to believe that thousands of children are missing? It's just not adding up.

 

[92562]

I would like to preface this by saying I mean no disrespect for the families effected by this tragedy, but I have a question: On social media I keep seeing posts/videos about how 1,000's people are still missing. I see posts about how 2,000 children are missing from Maui schools. But I never see posts or videos from distraught parents and family members wondering where their loved ones are at. I mean if 2,000 kids are missing 3 weeks after the fires, why isn't there complete crazy outrage from parents wanting to know where their kids are. Why aren't school officials reporting about all of the missing kids. Is this just BS from those on social media that are gas lighting us to believe that thousands of children are missing? It's just not adding up.

Or, did entire families burn in their homes? No one to look for them. Like many cultures, many Hawaiians have 3 generations living under one roof.

 

[BabyRay]

I would like to preface this by saying I mean no disrespect for the families effected by this tragedy, but I have a question: On social media I keep seeing posts/videos about how 1,000's people are still missing. I see posts about how 2,000 children are missing from Maui schools. But I never see posts or videos from distraught parents and family members wondering where their loved ones are at. I mean if 2,000 kids are missing 3 weeks after the fires, why isn't there complete crazy outrage from parents wanting to know where their kids are. Why aren't school officials reporting about all of the missing kids. Is this just BS from those on social media that are gas lighting us to believe that thousands of children are missing? It's just not adding up.

Yes, it’s complete BS. Any more questions?

 

[Bobby V]

I would like to preface this by saying I mean no disrespect for the families effected by this tragedy, but I have a question: On social media I keep seeing posts/videos about how 1,000's people are still missing. I see posts about how 2,000 children are missing from Maui schools. But I never see posts or videos from distraught parents and family members wondering where their loved ones are at. I mean if 2,000 kids are missing 3 weeks after the fires, why isn't there complete crazy outrage from parents wanting to know where their kids are. Why aren't school officials reporting about all of the missing kids. Is this just BS from those on social media that are gas lighting us to believe that thousands of children are missing? It's just not adding up.

Not sure how accurate this link is. Found a few others with the 388 number. https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/more-100-confirm-safety-release-014421128.html

 

[HNL2LHC]

Or, did entire families burn in their homes? No one to look for them. Like many cultures, many Hawaiians have 3 generations living under one roof.

Sadly I believe this is why you don’t hear families out looking for other members. Whole families have passed away in the fires. I have heard this elsewhere but not sure where exactly.

 

[DILLIGAF]

Or, did entire families burn in their homes? No one to look for them. Like many cultures, many Hawaiians have 3 generations living under one roof.

Thats what I have heard has transpired

 

[Tom Slick]

That definitely makes sense. Thank you for your responses.

 

[rmarion]

This Hawaiian Local Woman gives out the most REALEST and the most POWERFUL speech

This Hawaiian Local Woman gives out the most REALEST and the most POWERFUL speech towards Maui offcials who failed its People 🔥👁🙏 Share or download before it gets taken down "It is not about making a

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local take at county board meeting


SHITS REAL

don't BURY your head

 

[Ace in the Hole]

Sadly I believe this is why you don’t hear families out looking for other members. Whole families have passed away in the fires. I have heard this elsewhere but not sure where exactly.

Multiple places...including direct from a FF on island. Additionally Kapuna abandoned by the state workers..some allegedly only had porcelain teeth found. Fire was hot enough that unfortunately many will never be found, there is nothing left...listed as missing. I truly hope that the state doesn't use that designation to steal (land) from them...but I'm not holding my breath. A lot of what's gone on is abhorrent.

 

[rmarion]

As Native Hawaiians we fear Maui wildfire destruction will lead to our cultural erasure

As Native Hawaiians we fear Maui wildfire destruction will lead to our cultural erasure. ‘This is, for us, GENOCIDE,’ says community leader Keʻeaumoku Kapu. @keeaumokukapu #Hawaii #hawaiifires #Lahain

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another Local video

 

[2Driver]

2 weeks of poking him to leave his vacation and go to Maui.

Too bad Hawaii isn’t a swing state, he would have been there in 48 hours.

​

Biden surveys storm damage in Florida, without DeSantis

The president, who has spoken to DeSantis multiple times this week, said on Friday they would meet in person. The decision by the governor not to come caught the White House off guard.

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[4Waters]

2 weeks of poking him to leave his vacation and go to Maui.

Too bad Hawaii isn’t a swing state, he would have been there in 48 hours.

​

Biden surveys storm damage in Florida, without DeSantis

The president, who has spoken to DeSantis multiple times this week, said on Friday they would meet in person. The decision by the governor not to come caught the White House off guard.

www.reuters.com

Wrong, he would have been landing when the fires broke out

 

[rmarion]

The Voice of Q

WATCH: Drone footage shows the coverup going on in Hawaii. @GeneralMCNews

t.me

 

[rmarion]

PatriotAU️️️

Unbelievable!! Listen to this lady give an update on the Lahaina, Maui fire victims in Hawaii

t.me

 

[RitcheyRch]

PatriotAU️️️

Unbelievable!! Listen to this lady give an update on the Lahaina, Maui fire victims in Hawaii

t.me

That's a bunch of BS to do this to those people of Maui.

 

[Runs2rch]

That's a bunch of BS to do this to those people of Maui.

All by design.

 

[Boat 405]

It's a land grab. Unfortunately Hawaii is heavily democrat/liberal. The government that has the power to give you what you want also has the power to take it away. After working there for the past 13 years I got a first hand look at the state of things.

I got hired in 2011 to go there 2-3 times a year to handle an 18 unit condo complex. Most of it is PM work and sometimes emergency calls. If I get a call today, I'm on a plane first thing in the morning. Very simple. They happily pay me with less than a 24 response time. The locals would take 2-3 weeks to get someone out there. Not because they can't but because they don't care. It's a sad state of affairs for the locals, but not unexpected.

The entire thing stinks of fraud and malfeasance. But it comes as no surprise.

 

[Taboma]

That's a bunch of BS to do this to those people of Maui.

Who are they, what are they doing exactly, and why ??

Unless you personally have experienced a loss of this type and magnitude, then you are clueless of how complex the recovery process is.
The diverseness and magnitude of this particular almost unimaginable tragedy only serve to hinder the already extremely complex recovery.

This dumb bitch is ranting overgeneralizations completely oblivious to the myriad of complex realities involved.

This isn't ONE case, it's thousands of individual cases, each facing their own specific hurdles and resolution, in addition to all sharing common issues such as zoning, a new master plan being re-created and building codes reviewed, updated and amended with regards to new fire codes.
The creation of these codes and building requirements also adds to the delays in settling insurance claims as the amounts of various riders are affected by these code changes.
It's no secret that the local government of Maui is struggling under the weight of the magnitude of this event and it's unreasonable too expect otherwise.

Individually, you've got some who inherited homes from ancestors, some not insured, some who never having reviewed their policies are woefully underinsured, and others frustrated and chopping at the bit because of other delays as the "Hawaii Time" clock creeps slowly around it's dial as opposing sides state their cases for the new master plan that's holding up the commercial sector.

The poor will suffer, the wealthy will recover and many of the wealthy will prosper at the ill fortune of others. That's not a conspiracy, it's real life and tragic events of this magnitude amplify that X 1,0000.

When our neighborhood burned to the ground in '07, one of the most frustrating aspects was in the aftermath, listening to all the self-proclaimed experts on TV ranting away, completely clueless as to the realities of the backstage truth.
I was honestly impressed by the ability of San Diego County to step up provide amazing assistance in walking us through the permit process and waving all fees.

It was also maddening to hear a neighbor on camera for the 5PM news bad mouthing their insurance company, blaming them for being underinsured when a few months prior they were bragging how much they were saving by reducing their replacement cost estimate.

I warn you, spend adequate time reviewing your homeowners policy, I reviewed ours recently as I do now every year and that process even involved a phone conversation with my builder.
You might just discover you are woefully underinsured and it's better to discover this before a fire, then the shock of the realization after.