Made a big decision today....

[DILLIGAF]

Bummer about the septic. Hopefully you can still make it work if the seller is flexible and you still like the property.

Thats the hope. If not just need to keep looking

 

[Done-it-again]

Surprised it’s a leach field. All the the septic in hill country are the sprinkler type. Have 2 holding tanks that breaks everything down, and there is a large sprinkler head in the back 40 that sprays out the final septic water. It’s usually pretty green around the sprinkler head. lol.

 

[DILLIGAF]

Surprised it’s a leach field. All the the septic in hill country are the sprinkler type. Have 2 holding tanks that breaks everything down, and there is a large sprinkler head in the back 40 that sprays out the final septic water. It’s usually pretty green around the sprinkler head. lol.

Never heard of that setup before

Thats just it. We have no idea whats in the ground. Holding tank? Septic system with leech lines? Is the tank full? Is it something else? Lol

No clue right now

 

[angiebaby]

So are you having another company come out? How will you find out what's in the ground?

 

[WTR&PWR]

Anybody else having trouble viewing the pictures on this thread?
@RiverDave

 

[Done-it-again]

Never heard of that setup before

Thats just it. We have no idea whats in the ground. Holding tank? Septic system with leech lines? Is the tank full? Is it something else? Lol

No clue right now

We didn’t either but when the ground is rock.

It’s like this.

Aerobic System with Spray Irrigation | FAQ Guide

Discover how aerobic systems with spray irrigation function with Van Delden Wastewater Systems. Contact us today for more information!

www.vdwws.com

 

[paradise]

Anybody else having trouble viewing the pictures on this thread?
@RiverDave
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Yes, me too

 

[hallett21]

Anybody else having trouble viewing the pictures on this thread?
@RiverDave
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Me too

 

[buck35]

Same here,hear

 

[DILLIGAF]

So are you having another company come out? How will you find out what's in the ground?

Edit.....the current septic co will do the inspection if the seller works with me


Well...I cant inspect without a "break" of the lid and a new one installed. Just the new lid is 350. Plus the labor. Already paid 150. In labor to get to this point and more labor to go. 200. For the inspection, 450. For the required pump out etc

Already spent 450. For the well inspection with repairs required.

Unless the seller is willing to pick up some of these charges there isnt much more to talk about. The right thing to do is pony up some money. When the "septic" was put in it should have been permitted. Permits are very inexpensive in that area. Why screw around and blow that off?

If they drop the price 25k I will buy as is and put in a new licensed septic. It would be worth my time and effort.

The house inspection was fine.

 

[DILLIGAF]

We didn’t either but when the ground is rock.

It’s like this.

Aerobic System with Spray Irrigation | FAQ Guide

Discover how aerobic systems with spray irrigation function with Van Delden Wastewater Systems. Contact us today for more information!

www.vdwws.com

Got ya..I have heard of them but never looked into the function of them.

 

[Devilman]

Edit.....the current septic co will do the inspection if the seller works with me


Well...I cant inspect without a "break" of the lid and a new one installed. Just the new lid is 350. Plus the labor. Already paid 150. In labor to get to this point and more labor to go. 200. For the inspection, 450. For the required pump out etc

Already spent 450. For the well inspection with repairs required.

Unless the seller is willing to pick up some of these charges there isnt much more to talk about. The right thing to do is pony up some money. When the "septic" was put in it should have been permitted. Permits are very inexpensive in that area. Why screw around and blow that off?

If they drop the price 25k I will buy as is and put in a new licensed septic. It would be worth my time and effort.

The house inspection was fine.

Aw man, was hoping to come back and read things turned out ok. I have to say, the septic inspection routine as described sounds suspect to me. Can't hardly believe there'd be a septic tank with no access to service it. Breaking the lid/seal? Pumping it to inspect it? Sounds like someone trying to make some funny money to me.

We've been through several septic inspections over the years and never ran into that... with old fashioned conventional systems, LPD systems, or an aerobic system. I guess maybe the county guidelines could be different there.

Keep my fingers crossed for ya!

 

[Gramps]

Yes, me too

yup

 

[DILLIGAF]

Aw man, was hoping to come back and read things turned out ok. I have to say, the septic inspection routine as described sounds suspect to me. Can't hardly believe there'd be a septic tank with no access to service it. Breaking the lid/seal? Pumping it to inspect it? Sounds like someone trying to make some funny money to me.

We've been through several septic inspections over the years and never ran into that... with old fashioned conventional systems, LPD systems, or an aerobic system. I guess maybe the county guidelines could be different there.

Keep my fingers crossed for ya!

Thanks. Ya...starting to smell a bit...lol

 

[hallett21]

Hope it works out for you

 

[angiebaby]

In the three states that I have purchased homes with septic tanks in, the seller pays for the septic inspection and pumping in order to sell the property. I understand the "as is" aspect, but it's a health issue. The home is not liveable if the septic is not up to par. They should want to ensure this as a seller, unless they are selling at a potentially uninhabitable price.

 

[DILLIGAF]

In the three states that I have purchased homes with septic tanks in, the seller pays for the septic inspection and pumping in order to sell the property. I understand the "as is" aspect, but it's a health issue. The home is not liveable if the septic is not up to par. They should want to ensure this as a seller, unless they are selling at a potentially uninhabitable price.

Not in texas angie. No requirement to do that regardless of as is or not. That is what I am used to as well.

One additional deal is it is an estate sale which does not require any disclosures out here

In Texas like I said...BUYER BEWARE

 

[angiebaby]

We didn’t either but when the ground is rock.

It’s like this.

Aerobic System with Spray Irrigation | FAQ Guide

Discover how aerobic systems with spray irrigation function with Van Delden Wastewater Systems. Contact us today for more information!

www.vdwws.com

That is the system we have. No rock here though. So far, I'm not a fan. We have about 18" of porous, black topsoil and then several feet of sandy loam. It drains very well, so I'm not sure why they installed this system rather than traditional.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Got ya..I have heard of them but never looked into the function of them.

Some of the new builds on the other side of town have had to switch over to "unconventional" systems. One of the tank suppliers out here was telling me that a lot of the "good" areas are built on, and a lot of granite to work around. Some out of state people buy lots based solely on the view, but have no clue about the construction side of it.

Even by me, some bad lots for other reasons. My friend looked at a lot out here, and I went with him. Pretty decent price on two adjoining 3ac parcels. I looked at it and said "nope". There was no decent pad. It looked like years back someone started one, but it was in a slight flood plane. When covid started, someone bought it. The dirt work alone was 80k, and due to those changes, the septic system needed to be weird as well. The current owner was into the property near 250k I believe before the first form board was placed.

My area isn't some sort of high rent district

 

[RichL]

Not in texas angie. No requirement to do that regardless of as is or not. That is what I am used to as well.

One additional deal is it is an estate sale which does not require any disclosures out here

In Texas like I said...BUYER BEWARE

I can't imagine anyone wanting to buy without an operable septic system. It would behoove the estate trustee to work with you on this in their best interest rather than just trying to kick the can down the road in terms of lost time and money.

 

[DILLIGAF]

Some of the new builds on the other side of town have had to switch over to "unconventional" systems. One of the tank suppliers out here was telling me that a lot of the "good" areas are built on, and a lot of granite to work around. Some out of state people buy lots based solely on the view, but have no clue about the construction side of it.

Even by me, some bad lots for other reasons. My friend looked at a lot out here, and I went with him. Pretty decent price on two adjoining 3ac parcels. I looked at it and said "nope". There was no decent pad. It looked like years back someone started one, but it was in a slight flood plane. When covid started, someone bought it. The dirt work alone was 80k, and due to those changes, the septic system needed to be weird as well. The current owner was into the property near 250k I believe before the first form board was placed.

My area isn't some sort of high rent district

This one isnt either

I wont be spending 2k on inspections at these properties and then walking. seems crazy but I have to do my due diligence and not get screwed over.

Gotta be 100% aware of the situation

 

[DILLIGAF]

I can't imagine anyone wanting to buy without an operable septic system. It would behoove the estate trustee to work with you on this in their best interest rather than just trying to kick the can down the road in terms of lost time and money.

I guess there are people out there that buy without inspections. I am not one of them

 

[DILLIGAF]

Georgia or TN is now starting to pop up in my mind as another option.

I have seen some incredible properties within budget out there

 

[callbob]

Well when we to Somerset Kentucky I was impressed. Lots of green. Lots of water. Lots of fishing and hunting. The people I had interaction with were super nice and polite. Probably wouldn’t mind living there and RE seemed really reasonable. I’m getting to old to start over so when the wife is gone, will probably stay here in Colorado in our new little casita in the summer and motorhome somewhere warm in the winter. Moho, Jeep Gladiator and casita all paid for and def not buying anything else at this stage in the game, but really liked that area.

 

[DILLIGAF]

Ok. New approach. I told my agent to offer 25k less and I will just go put in a new septic and take all responsibilities as is. I will spend pretty much all of that installing a new system.

If they dont agree I walk and they can go thru this all over again with the next buyer.

All in with the chips now

 

[DILLIGAF]

Well when we to Somerset Kentucky I was impressed. Lots of green. Lots of water. Lots of fishing and hunting. The people I had interaction with were super nice and polite. Probably wouldn’t mind living there and RE seemed really reasonable. I’m getting to old to start over so when the wife is gone, will probably stay here in Colorado in our new little casita in the summer and motorhome somewhere warm in the winter. Moho, Jeep Gladiator and casita all paid for and def not buying anything else at this stage in the game, but really liked that area.

Sounds like a good plan to me.

 

[Eliminator21vdrive]

Georgia or TN is now starting to pop up in my mind as another option.

I have seen some incredible properties within budget out there

Don't forget Kentucky..

 

[clarence]

You want to be on the right side of the Republic of Texas border once things pop off.

 

[DILLIGAF]

UPDATE....OK....I am holding strong on my lowered offer. They countered at a lower price than asking but not as low as I offered. One problem....just got the well report back and the inspection failed. They had the nerve to ask for a copy or at least info on the well inspection.....lol I don't think so.....We told them after their counter offer that it failed the inspection and thats it

So.....I am standing strong with my revised offer.

I found it interesting with others waiting in the wings that they would lower the price to me (not low enough though). I am calling BS on the other buyers and will call it for what it is....unethical to be fabricating shit like that.

Tick tock tick tock.....if they don't accept I walk tomorrow.....

Game face on firmly now

 

[Gramps]

not Texas but nice

353 S Highway 18, Central, UT 84722 | MLS #23-243445 | Zillow

This 10422 square feet Single Family home has 6 bedrooms and 6 bathrooms. It is located at 353 S Highway 18, Central, UT.

www.zillow.com

 

[DILLIGAF]

not Texas but nice

353 S Highway 18, Central, UT 84722 | MLS #23-243445 | Zillow

This 10422 square feet Single Family home has 6 bedrooms and 6 bathrooms. It is located at 353 S Highway 18, Central, UT.

www.zillow.com

Is that where I stash all the ex-wives? lol

 

[DILLIGAF]

Ok...so they begged me to split a 10k difference and i agreed!

Papers signed and now onto a quick escrow

Excited to get this taken care of

 

[DILLIGAF]

My new place.....lol

 

[24 Sleekenforcer]

Ok...so they begged me to split a 10k difference and i agreed!

Papers signed and now onto a quick escrow

Excited to get this taken care of

Congratulations, I hope you get it set up for your liking. Can’t wait to see all progress on this.

 

[Devilman]

Ok...so they begged me to split a 10k difference and i agreed!

Papers signed and now onto a quick escrow

Excited to get this taken care of

Congrats to ya! Nice to hear you got it handled

 

[DILLIGAF]

Thank you.

Congrats to ya! Nice to hear you got it handled

Time to get to work soon

 

[bonesfab]

Should have told them to leave the harley and t-bucket to sweeten the deal

 

[DILLIGAF]

Congratulations, I hope you get it set up for your liking. Can’t wait to see all progress on this.

Thanks....me too. Lol

 

[DILLIGAF]

Should have told them to leave the harley and t-bucket to sweeten the deal

Tried to actually buy them and they turned me down so no chance of that

 

[Spitfire]

Glad it worked out. 5k is cheap for peace and less stress

 

[snowhammer]

Congratulations

 

[DILLIGAF]

Oh oh.....potential trouble ahead as the septic is unlicensed. Have an inspection scheduled Tuesday. If this friggin thing is band aided together I will walk again.

Man...you have to be on your toes out here on county land in Texas. Its an estate sale so they have no disclosure mandates.

Buyer beware is real

Just got off the phone with the county permit office. If it were able to be repaired and not include a new tank or leech fields they will not require any permits or license from the county. If it is required to put in a new system at that time it will be required to be permitted. We will find out more on this soon. Would be great to just repair but honestly we have no idea and I have to be prepared to put in a new system

 

[FreeBird236]

Just got off the phone with the county permit office. If it were able to be repaired and not include a new tank or leech fields they will not require any permits or license from the county. If it is required to put in a new system at that time it will be required to be permitted. We will find out more on this soon. Would be great to just repair but honestly we have no idea and I have to be prepared to put in a new system

It may not be as bad as you think. When my FIL passed away last year, we sold his property in Pahrump, we paid for the septic inspection and were really worried it would be junk(about 25 years old). They also had to break a lid off, but once off and pumped everything was OK, so beside the inspection and pumping the only extra was the lid.

 

[DILLIGAF]

Thats exactly what I am hoping for......

 

[RichL]

Congratulations. Hope it all works out for you.

 

[Havoc Powesports]

Jerk that leach field out, drop in an Aerobic septic system. Check the prices. start all new and the crew could be done in about a day with new system. Leach fields do ok in TX.. My old place had a leach field in TX and I got tired of tree roots etc messing with it. Had a crew come out installed an Aerobic and never looked back. Yes they use an air pump, but the rebuild kits are less than a 100 dollars for them. Throw some septic tabs to keep the odor away and good to go Family of 3 would use a bucket of tabs every 6 months roughly. Get on a service plan and never touch the system again.

 

[RadMan]

Congrats
I loved living in the Hill Country


Curious about what failed on the well inspection. Is it all above ground stuff plumbing, electrical and well seal at surface type stuff?

Every storage tank we installed in your area we would use a fabricated pvc spray bar (drilled holes or cut slits) across the tank width to deliver the water from the pump into the top of tank, this will allow for instant degassing and would help your waters taste and smell. Make sure you get a black or green tank so the sunlight is blocked from the water, if you can shade it, that helps too, otherwise in summer you cold water will not be cold.

 

[angiebaby]

Jerk that leach field out, drop in an Aerobic septic system. Check the prices. start all new and the crew could be done in about a day with new system. Leach fields do ok in TX.. My old place had a leach field in TX and I got tired of tree roots etc messing with it. Had a crew come out installed an Aerobic and never looked back. Yes they use an air pump, but the rebuild kits are less than a 100 dollars for them. Throw some septic tabs to keep the odor away and good to go Family of 3 would use a bucket of tabs every 6 months roughly. Get on a service plan and never touch the system again.

I wouldn't. They require electricity. My motto is to keep it simple. Also, when my grandpuppies come to visit, they want to walk and sniff and roll all over the area that the discharge goes. Also that sprinkler pipe can freeze and potentially break. I've heard of mowers mowing the sprinkler off. We have that type of system and I wish we didn't. There is only two of us in a 4-bedroom house. The chances of us filling a regular type are very slim. I think in 15 years with our 60-year-old concrete septic in Menifee, we only needed to get it pumped once, during heavy rains. That was with 4 people in a 2 bedroom house.

 

[DILLIGAF]

Congrats
I loved living in the Hill Country


Curious about what failed on the well inspection. Is it all above ground stuff plumbing, electrical and well seal at surface type stuff?

Every storage tank we installed in your area we would use a fabricated pvc spray bar (drilled holes or cut slits) across the tank width to deliver the water from the pump into the top of tank, this will allow for instant degassing and would help your waters taste and smell. Make sure you get a black or green tank so the sunlight is blocked from the water, if you can shade it, that helps too, otherwise in summer you cold water will not be cold.

What failed was the bacterial content...no e-coli and the pressure tank is shot.

Thanks for the advice. Depending on how much I have to dump into the septic will determine the size of the holding tank I will do.

How big of a tank do you suggest or use? I say go as big as budget allows which would be 5k gal if all works out

 

[Flatsix66]

Just did this in AZ.

PROPERTY/PROJECT DESCRIPTION
Permit is for:
New System
Type of Use:
Residential
Property Receives Water By:
Individual Well
Estimated Cost of Construction (Materials and Labor):
10000.00



Type:
Chambers
# of Bedrooms:
4
Fixture Count Range:
More than 28
Your Tank Size:
1500
Your Design Flow (GPD):
750
SAR (g/day/sq.ft):
0.60
Disposal Area (sq.ft):
1250
Cover (ft.):
1' Min
Total Depth (ft.):
8' Max
Manufacturer-Model:
Infiltrator Quick4 High Capacity Chambers 750 GPD
Number of Chambers:
44.01