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I've been seeing a lot of USAF heavy airlift activity in the European and Middle Eastern region over the last few days. More than normal. C-5's, C-17's, C-130's and supporting tankers. You would have to assume the US is setting up a strong defense, or an offense. Something is going on.
 

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Also hearing about multiple rocket and mortar attacks in and around Baghdad towards US troop housing complexes. Shit you don't hear on the main stream media.
 

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I didn't know this happened and it's being reported that when it did Trump was determined to not allow Iran to kill/attack any more Americans...


A US civilian contractor was killed Friday in a rocket attack on a base near Kirkuk, Iraq, where US service members and civilian contractors were located, an Operation Inherent Resolve spokesman confirmed.

K1 military base, which houses US troops in Kirkuk province in northern Baghdad, was attacked by several katyusha rockets on Friday, according to the Iraqi military.
Several US and Iraqi military members were wounded in the attack, which happened at 7:20 p.m. Iraq time, OIR spokesman Col. Myles B. Caggins III said. A US official told CNN that "less than a handful" of Americans were wounded, and it's believed some have already returned to duty. The Iraqi military said only one Iraqi security officer was injured in the attack.
 

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We have no longer need of the straight of hormuz...cuck nations that still need to suck the teet stand up. It's your turn.
 

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Our freedom runs on oil. If Iran controls Iraq they control the oil.
 

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Our freedom runs on oil. If Iran controls Iraq they control the oil.

who produces the most oil today?
Once you figure that one out...

Please explain your thought process on this

cause it makes no sense to me.

The US is a exporter of oil, we dont need any from them..
 

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Our freedom runs on oil. If Iran controls Iraq they control the oil.

It could be fixed here at home. You have a neighbour up North that has lots of oil and natural gas for the right price.;)
But of course you getting it a little bit cheaper from the ME now.:p
The United States has been the world's top producer of natural gas since 2009, when U.S. natural gas production surpassed that of Russia, and the world's top producer of petroleum hydrocarbons since 2013, when U.S. production exceeded Saudi Arabia's

https://articles2.marketrealist.com/2019/04/the-worlds-top-oil-producing-countries/#

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who produces the most oil today?
Once you figure that one out...

Please explain your thought process on this

cause it makes no sense to me.

The US is a exporter of oil, we dont need any from them..


The US does not produce the right types of crude oil in the right geographic locations for all our refining capacity so we import crude oil as well as export it. We also do not have the right mix of refining capacity to generate the right mix of refined products to match supply and demand in the United States.

So we both export and import to balance our supply and demand across both crude types and refined products.

We are not self sufficient with respect to refinery input and refinery finished product output mix and to be so, would raise the cost on everyone substantially.
 

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We can retrofit our vehicles to propane again if the need arise.Loose a little power vs gasoline but who cares. Mustangs already produce well over 500HP, little detune wouldn't be that bad.:p My son works at the LNG in Kitimat, a five year
project.

Despite billions of dollars of investment, its bitumen—especially within the Athabasca oil sands—is still only a partially exploited resource. By 2025 this and other unconventional oil resources—the northern and offshore frontiers and heavy crude oil resources in the West—could place Canada in the top ranks among the world's oil producing and exporting nations. In a 2004 reassessment of global resources, the United States' EIA put Canadian oil reserves second; only Saudi Arabia has greater proved reserves. In 2014, the EIA now ranks Canada as third in World Oil Reserves at around 175 billion barrels, while Saudi Arabia is 2nd with around 268 billion barrels and Venezuela is ranked first with around 297 billion barrels of reserves
 

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The US does not produce the right types of crude oil in the right geographic locations for all our refining capacity so we import crude oil as well as export it. We also do not have the right mix of refining capacity to generate the right mix of refined products to match supply and demand in the United States.

So we both export and import to balance our supply and demand across both crude types and refined products.

We are not self sufficient with respect to refinery input and refinery finished product output mix and to be so, would raise the cost on everyone substantially.


My comments were made about his thought process of Iran controls the price, which impacts our freedom...

Iran has nothing on us.... think about the future middle eastern economies, as electric cars take over china, us, europe,,, and the need for oil/gas drops... how will those economies function? Irans entire economy is based one thing, Oil... and they have no control on its price right now. If they did, Oil would have sky rocketed to $150/barrel after we took that piece of shit out... But it didnt...

so what does Iran offer?

Global demand for sand? Camels?.. Goats?... what the fuck else do they offer... They have very little natural resources....

They are fucked... even if we dont blow there ass up...

Demand for oil will go down... supply has increased, what happens to price in this supply demand equation....

Down, down, down,,, just like Irans future....
 
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For most of us, our day to day lives will be normal, but.....
just confirmed that 19 targets were struck in Saudi Arabia
The yemen proxy group claimed responsibility but they are further then Iraq and Iran from the oil fields and the targets attacked were closest to the gulf and furthest in the field from Yemen. Yemen said they used small drones. SA says it was not drones but missiles. So that means it was either cruise missiles straight from Iran or pro friendly Iraqi held areas from the north.
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Great thread, and still relevant ;)

Does this turn into a civil war of the middle east?

I'm absolutely sure the U.S. Military can ruin the Iranian military, but as I see it today, we are not going to occupy the middle east.

If we leave Iraq, without first doing to Iran, what we did to Iraq, we can never leave the middle east in peace. :(

The next step in the process is Iran.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...els-for-iranian-attacks/ar-BBYDrZt?li=BBnbfcL
 
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Does this turn into a civil war of the middle east?

Lol, the ME is and always has been in a civil war...at least since Mohammed wrote a book.

We can not change that with any kind of permanence. There will never be ongoing peace there...or anywhere for that matter, but particularly in the ME desert.

It isn’t a “problem” to be solved, it’s a self perpetuating dynamic that we can only try to manipulate with the extent of our participation.

Personally, I think we should whack all ME leaders that promote violence toward the US...and every fucking mullah in the US that encourages violence on other Americans.
 
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Lol, the ME is and always has been in a civil war...at least since Mohammed wrote a book.

We can not change that with any kind of permanence. There will never be ongoing peace there...or anywhere for that matter, but particularly in the ME desert.

It isn’t a “problem” to be solved, it’s a self perpetuating dynamic that we can only try to manipulate with the extent of our participation.

Personally, I think we should whack all ME leaders that promote violence toward the US...and every fucking mullah in the US that encourages violence on other Americans.

If It was my decision, every time an Iranian Official, publicly stated Death to American, it would cost them one Tomahawk to one military run way...

When they run out of runways, then I would target their Navy...

They would learn, public statements indicating you want to kill us, has consequences.
 
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Trump seems to have changed how war is waged, governments have sent the common man to fight and die for decisions made by the ruling class it is now posable to kill the ruling class without having to fight past the common man this has been an option for 50 years but Trump may be the first to actually have the balls to do it.
The argument I have heard that thinks this is a bad idea is that chaos will envelop the region and refuges will invade all the neighboring countries but that has happened with all the other fighting that has been going on.

I think it may work well long term if a leader thinks we will hold them personally responsible and death is the price to be paid they will act differently.

The other argument against this is that the offending countries will try to go after are leaders or president but I think if they could they would do it anyway.
 

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Agreed. Trump understands what they understand. Look at how they act - brutal direct actions to get what they want. He’s talking to them in their native tounge - they’ll understand perfectly. Do you think any CEO would act differently if they were held DIRECTLY responsible for every decision they made? Another will take his place - they aren’t quick learners, but after a several examples, they’ll catch on. The only person to have a chance of controlling the ME is Trump. They won’t stop killing- we just want them to stop killing ours
 

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The US does not produce the right types of crude oil in the right geographic locations for all our refining capacity so we import crude oil as well as export it. We also do not have the right mix of refining capacity to generate the right mix of refined products to match supply and demand in the United States.

So we both export and import to balance our supply and demand across both crude types and refined products.

We are not self sufficient with respect to refinery input and refinery finished product output mix and to be so, would raise the cost on everyone substantially.

Nope. You need to do some Homework. We are and will be self sufficient by the end of DT. We're about to drill the piss out of Alaska and make the Middle East look like Rookies when it comes to Crude.

Watch.
 

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For most of us, our day to day lives will be normal, but.....


Great thread, and still relevant ;)

Does this turn into a civil war of the middle east?

I'm absolutely sure the U.S. Military can ruin the Iranian military, but as I see it today, we are not going to occupy the middle east.

If we leave Iraq, without first doing to Iran, what we did to Iraq, we can never leave the middle east in peace. :(

The next step in the process is Iran.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...els-for-iranian-attacks/ar-BBYDrZt?li=BBnbfcL

Fuck the Middle East. All we have to do is chop the Head off the Snake and walk away.

Burn it down. Burn it all down.

"Occupy" Lol.
 

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This isn’t over by any means. Don’t be surprised when Iran launches an attack on Israel or Saudi Arabia after this. Then all Hell is going to bust loose in the Middle East.
It's never over. Those tribal people have been fighting and killing each other for over 4000 years. 4000 years from now they will still be killing each other. They kill because they hate. Their not sure why they hate other then they are told by their leaders they need to hate. A model we see forming in America by the Democrats. We hate you, everything you do is wrong, we want to hurt you or kill you to save the Constitution.
 

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The ME issue has a lot to do with the religious goals of 1 world religion. Flaws in that theory are the sects within that 1 religion can't even make one religion acceptable.

The Dems are being controlled by progressive socialists using the environment and other social issues to maintain chaos. To take back the US, we need to straighten up a federal government that is full of self interested politicians and bureaucrats that refuse to go by rules and laws when ever those rules and laws do not favor their agenda. Get the media back to being a neutral reporting entity rather than a propaganda spreading rabble rousing bunch of treasonous trouble makers.

It won't be easy as too many groups have found how to use our laws and Constitution as protection of their actions.
 

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The ME is a messed up place. After WWI, the Ottoman Empire was split up by the Allied Forces. Some say it was mostly the Brits, feeling that another empire was growing too strong. When the lines were drawn, they specifically drew the lines to overlap different tribal groups. Kind of like putting warring gangs on the same city block. By design, the would fight amongst themselves, and only be controlled by the strongest leaders...aka whatever warlord or puppet got the backing. Over the course of the past hundred or so years, the different brands of islam have finally figured it out. If they join as islamists, they can start bigger fights with "Infedels".

The way to put an end to it, as posted above, is to stomp it out. The ones that seem to be calling the shots are the religious leaders. I'm 42. My entire life there has been an ayatollah calling for death to America, and death to Israel. This is where the silence needs to be brought.

As for their "allies", China and Russia primarily. Those countries are not fans of islam...at all. They are interested in the dollars of the deal. Strategic strikes like Trump has done are fairly harmless to the wallets of the other players. Pick the targets with the crescent moon...
 

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I don’t think most here understand you have two tribes in the ME

Sunni=Arab
Shiite=Persian=Iranian


The majority of the Sunni world is aligned with us minus extremist groups like AQ and IS

Sunni allies

Jordan
Saudi Arabia
Kuwait
Iraq, minus the Iranian puppets
Egypt
United Arab Emirates
 

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I don’t think most here understand you have two tribes in the ME

Sunni=Arab
Shiite=Persian=Iranian


The majority of the Sunni world is aligned with us minus extremist groups like AQ and IS

Sunni allies

Jordan
Saudi Arabia
Kuwait
Iraq, minus the Iranian puppets
Egypt
United Arab Emirates

And correct me if I’m wrong but they’ve been fighting over who was Mohammed’s rightful replacement for like 1400 years?
 

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That depends on which specific situation you are talking about...

Is another pallet of American cash more to you're preference? Or simply a text to say nice shot/planning.
 

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There are a multitude of scenarios with a multitude of different possible results in the situation with Iran. There’s a build up right now just in case something else does occur. We are ready to strike at any moment, always ready. We are the best military in the world hands down. The Iranian air space would be uncontested, their “navy” wiped out, surface to air threats struck, and the 82nd/101st, along with a harmful of mech would handle their ground forces, would be all that’s required to take care of their military.

#TOML
 

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Iran will never toe up to the U.S. They have and always will strike through proxies and give themselves plausible deniability. We are already consolidating our forces in Iraq so as to lessen the possibilities for easier, small attacks on our guys.
 

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Allright, we all know when I get a few bourbons in... The truth comes out... time for some truth.

Our/ the U.S greatest weakness, is allowing our enemy's to dictate the rules of war.

What do I mean by that. Iran has taken advantage of our weakness. But funding terrorists groups to attack us. This allows Iran the ability to state they didnt do it...
Hezbollab, ISIS, AL QUEADA, pick a fucking name...attack our soldiers, attack our ships, attack our embassy s. They fund anyone willing to attack us.. Anywhere on the planet... And in the past they got away with it. Because it wasnt a soveign nation who attacked us, it was a Terrorists group... who was funded by IRAN...

For the first time in 10-20 years. The US Leaders had the balls to call those fuckers out, hold mutherfuckers accountable... and dare those idiots to double down on being stupid.

As someone who spent 8 years in the Navy... I double dog dare those stupid motherfuckers to attack us... I would love the opportunity to blow those fuckers up.

TIME FOR THE U.S. TO STOP APOLOGIZING FOR WANTING DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY'S, THAT ALLOW WOMEN'S RIGHTS, FREE SPEECH, FREEDOM OF RELIGION, BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS..

DEATH TO IRAN

Time for another bourbon.

I am scorched earth type of guy, when someone cross's me...
 
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The ME issue has a lot to do with the religious goals of 1 world religion. Flaws in that theory are the sects within that 1 religion can't even make one religion acceptable.

The Dems are being controlled by progressive socialists using the environment and other social issues to maintain chaos. To take back the US, we need to straighten up a federal government that is full of self interested politicians and bureaucrats that refuse to go by rules and laws when ever those rules and laws do not favor their agenda. Get the media back to being a neutral reporting entity rather than a propaganda spreading rabble rousing bunch of treasonous trouble makers.

It won't be easy as too many groups have found how to use our laws and Constitution as protection of their actions.

Remember when being biased in the media was a bad thing? The first rule of journalism used to be cover the story, never be the story. The 24 hour news cycle and cable competition between mouth breathers has led to where we are now. Want to make it stop? Turn it off.
 
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