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530RL said:
It’s “America First” whatever that marketing slogan means.
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Lie number 1: The "national security" bill aka "the bipartisan border bill" was over 100billion dollars of money for other countries. It then set a minimum of 8500 illegal crossings per day before requiring the rest of the asylum claims for that day to go through a port of entry. but that is also misleading, because those 8500 were to be adult criminals. it allows unlimited illegal crossings of people claiming to be minors. Then it provided 17 billion dollars to speed up the production of documents for the minimum 2 million new illegal aliens that this bill guaranteed per year. so bottom line, this was actually a "fund Ukrainian oligarchs" bill that guaranteed 2 million illegal aliens. Ant the Republicans in the house dealt with it. by saying no.

Lie number 2: the idea that somehow Republicans, even the j6 Republicans, are somehow against law enforcement, is a complete joke. now, that does not mean that they do, or should, support political ideology enforcement agencies. and that is what some of these agencies are. the funniest part of these arguments you are making is, however, that you clearly did not bother to watch the j6 tapes. you are relying on the Adam schiff report, and are completely clueless about what happened. And interestingly, you are completely uninterested in the 5/29 attack. So you don't care that the white house grounds were firebombed, or that more secret service were injured, because it does not fit your left wing agenda.

Lie 3: Trump is not trying to leave NATO, and Trump is not encouraging Russia to attack NATO. Trump is telling NATO to meet spending targets for defense so Russia cannot attack. But you love this Lie. you repeat it over and over.


Again, it has to be asked, is 530 a liar, an idiot, or a traitor? Because everything he types in untrue, for a purpose.
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The "Emergency National Security Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2024" was in fact a bill full of funding for ongoing defense in other countries. It was that way because the Republicans in the House insisted that border security and such defense appropriations were tied together. Your argument that a border bill that has foreign defense aid is inherently deficient because it has the exact foreign aid that House Republicans linked to border security is at best laughable, but in reality devoid of logic, ration or reason. Secondly although your description of the border security provisions is right off the MAGA talking points, it is not consistent with the bill. I suspect we just have to agree to disagree there. Or if you would like, you can read it here.


With respect to paragraph 2, I will simply let your divine leader speak for himself.


With respect to paragraph 3, it is the MAGA wing of the Republican party that is currently holding up defense aid to Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan and South Korea despite being passed by a supermajority in the Senate and if the Speaker would bring it up for a vote, it would pass in the House. With respect to NATO, it is clear to any objective observer that Trump wants out of NATO and the US obligations under Article 5:

www.nytimes.com

Trump Discussed Pulling U.S. From NATO, Aides Say Amid New Concerns Over Russia (Published 2019)

The president’s repeatedly stated desire in private to withdraw from the alliance has raised concerns among officials who fear he may revisit the threat.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

www.theatlantic.com

Trump Will Abandon NATO

If reelected, he would end our commitment to the European alliance, reshaping the international order and hobbling American influence in the world.
www.theatlantic.com www.theatlantic.com

All three of my statements are factually correct. They might not be convenient for that which you seek, but they are the truth.

There is a reason why you MAGA folks are constantly shocked and appalled at Trump's repeated defeats in court case after court case. And it is because you have lost the concept of objective analysis. Expect more defeats, which I suspect will continue to surprise you.
 
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Again, it has to be asked, is 530 a liar, an idiot, or a traitor? Because everything he types in untrue, for a purpose.
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How about full of shit?
Because that is exactly what TF that POS is. Full of shit.

What a piece of work.
Zero redeeming social value.
 
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So just so I understand the thinking in pretzel world, Ukraine, Isreal, Taiwan and South Korea are all part of NATO? Or is this irrelevant nonsense expected to smokescreen the actual bullshit you spew?

Looking to The Atlantic or the NYT for Trump's thinking is like going to a strip club to look for love. They will tell you exactly what you want to hear to get you to support them. Listen to what Trump said. They have had decades to hit the spending targets. They need to uphold their end of the treaty, or it's not a treaty, it's child support to a hooked who hates you for a child that's not yours. The ignorance is astounding, and has to be intentional.

As far as the "national security" bill, the house said to secure the border, and they would consider borrowing an additional 100 billion dollars from China to give to Ukraine. What is lost on me is why Ukraine doesn't borrow the money directly, except that no one would lend to them so Volodomir's wife can go to fashion week, but hey, if they want the money, they should get it themselves.

A bill that guarantees adding another couple states worth of illegals every year is not securing the border. A bill with nothing for security, just faster processing of illegals is not securing the border. Your lies do not change this. Looking for the WaPo interpretation to decide what it means is not reality. It's too bad you do not understand this.

And yes, Trump will lose in every court case. Most will refuse to even hear the cases. Judges declaring that summary judgment is sufficient is the new normal. That does not make it right. It is naked power. And you support it. That is treason, but hey, the winners write history. We will see if people who desire to live under the US constitution ever decide to get organized. Otherwise, the 5/29 insurrectionists and their puppet masters will prevail. They will use violence to destroy this country, and you will roll over and pretend it's OK, because you think they will let you live out your life with your pool boy and your money in peace. I wonder how that worked out for the upper class in Venezuela?
 
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My complaints were minimal under Trump in general.

Nuclear proliferation? Everyone said that when he got into office and we never came close to it. We are more closer to that now then under Trump. What is your issue with his foreign policies exactly? Leaving Nato or telling countries they need to pay us somehow for protection? Either way facts are certain nations didn't make the moves they are making today out of fear of our nation and they didn't want to take that pepsi challenge. Now with weaker leadership they all at it again.

We all know war in general is a billion if not more dollar industry that benefits the powers above. Defense contracts and military aid in general is a huge ponzi scheme. My belief is Trump knew that and to keep certain people/companies happy spent tons of money in the defense department without actually going to war to keep them happy. It seems to me that obviously wasn't enough.

Regardless, if you truly feel this nation in general is and has been doing better under this administration vs the last there really isn't nothing more to talk about because we obviously live in two different worlds.
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Germany considers getting its own nuclear weapons despite rejecting nuclear energy

Developing nuclear weapons may be on the minds of Germany, despite shunning nuclear power in recent years.
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Trump loses bid to pause $454.2 million judgment in NY civil fraud case

NEW YORK (Reuters) -Donald Trump on Wednesday lost a bid to pause a $454.2 million civil fraud judgment against him for overstating his net worth and real estate values to dupe lenders, meaning he must soon find the cash or post a bond to prevent New York authorities from seizing his property...
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530RL said:
The "Emergency National Security Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2024" was in fact a bill full of funding for ongoing defense in other countries. It was that way because the Republicans in the House insisted that border security and such defense appropriations were tied together. Your argument that a border bill that has foreign defense aid is inherently deficient because it has the exact foreign aid that House Republicans linked to border security is at best laughable, but in reality devoid of logic, ration or reason. Secondly although your description of the border security provisions is right off the MAGA talking points, it is not consistent with the bill. I suspect we just have to agree to disagree there. Or if you would like, you can read it here.


With respect to paragraph 2, I will simply let your divine leader speak for himself.


With respect to paragraph 3, it is the MAGA wing of the Republican party that is currently holding up defense aid to Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan and South Korea despite being passed by a supermajority in the Senate and if the Speaker would bring it up for a vote, it would pass in the House. With respect to NATO, it is clear to any objective observer that Trump wants out of NATO and the US obligations under Article 5:

www.nytimes.com

Trump Discussed Pulling U.S. From NATO, Aides Say Amid New Concerns Over Russia (Published 2019)

The president’s repeatedly stated desire in private to withdraw from the alliance has raised concerns among officials who fear he may revisit the threat.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

www.theatlantic.com

Trump Will Abandon NATO

If reelected, he would end our commitment to the European alliance, reshaping the international order and hobbling American influence in the world.
www.theatlantic.com www.theatlantic.com

All three of my statements are factually correct. They might not be convenient for that which you seek, but they are the truth.

There is a reason why you MAGA folks are constantly shocked and appalled at Trump's repeated defeats in court case after court case. And it is because you have lost the concept of objective analysis. Expect more defeats, which I suspect will continue to surprise you.
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rcmike said:
So just so I understand the thinking in pretzel world, Ukraine, Isreal, Taiwan and South Korea are all part of NATO? Or is this irrelevant nonsense expected to smokescreen the actual bullshit you spew?

Looking to The Atlantic or the NYT for Trump's thinking is like going to a strip club to look for love. They will tell you exactly what you want to hear to get you to support them. Listen to what Trump said. They have had decades to hit the spending targets. They need to uphold their end of the treaty, or it's not a treaty, it's child support to a hooked who hates you for a child that's not yours. The ignorance is astounding, and has to be intentional.

As far as the "national security" bill, the house said to secure the border, and they would consider borrowing an additional 100 billion dollars from China to give to Ukraine. What is lost on me is why Ukraine doesn't borrow the money directly, except that no one would lend to them so Volodomir's wife can go to fashion week, but hey, if they want the money, they should get it themselves.

A bill that guarantees adding another couple states worth of illegals every year is not securing the border. A bill with nothing for security, just faster processing of illegals is not securing the border. Your lies do not change this. Looking for the WaPo interpretation to decide what it means is not reality. It's too bad you do not understand this.

And yes, Trump will lose in every court case. Most will refuse to even hear the cases. Judges declaring that summary judgment is sufficient is the new normal. That does not make it right. It is naked power. And you support it. That is treason, but hey, the winners write history. We will see if people who desire to live under the US constitution ever decide to get organized. Otherwise, the 5/29 insurrectionists and their puppet masters will prevail. They will use violence to destroy this country, and you will roll over and pretend it's OK, because you think they will let you live out your life with your pool boy and your money in peace. I wonder how that worked out for the upper class in Venezuela?
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The Atlantic Strip Club. Now that is gold. It's in Baltimore! Here, Hookers, Pool boys, and Puppet Masters Oh my!!
This should be required reading in Civics class.
G-day!
 
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530RL said:
In a large global economy, different people see different “real world” results all the time regardless of who is president. It is just a reality. There are always winners and losers.

The “real world” facts are that the overall economy is pretty good. But you would think by some of the posts in here we are in the second Great Depression.

People give way too much credit or blame to politics and political leaders for their success or failure. And in some cases it paralyzes or retards their success.

The world isn’t going to end because Trump is reelected or because Biden is reelected. It’s just going to do whatever it does with 8 billion people each attempting to do what is best for themselves.
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Sorry but no it's not good overall. I'm single and my grocery bills have doubled. My fuel vost have doubled. The grocery stores have shitty meat, have shitty vegetables if they have any. Cost of housing has doubled. So fuck you with that bullshit lie.


When a president sets policies to destroy the fossil fuel industry and even says that's his intent. Do you not think that's gonna cause a change? Do you think it magically doesn't effect the costs in that industry?


When he tells the world to come to America that we will accept them all, do you not think that's going to fuck up our country?

You seriously must need 3 d9 dozers to pull your head out of your ass. It's been wedged in there long and hard.
 
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Sorry but no it's not good overall. I'm single and my grocery bills have doubled. My fuel vost have doubled. The grocery stores have shitty meat, have shitty vegetables if they have any. Cost of housing has doubled. So fuck you with that bullshit lie.


When a president sets policies to destroy the fossil fuel industry and even says that's his intent. Do you not think that's gonna cause a change? Do you think it magically doesn't effect the costs in that industry?


When he tells the world to come to America that we will accept them all, do you not think that's going to fuck up our country?

You seriously must need 3 d9 dozers to pull your head out of your ass. It's been wedged in there long and hard.
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"It DoEsN't MaTtEr wHo ThE PrEsiDenT iS.... BuT iT CaN'T bE TrUMp"

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Lol, figured you had, damn, 4 years of latin, that's hard labor. Figured Trump had in HS at the military academy.
I'll hafta look that up. 59 years ago, 5th grade. Mr. Dietz, 11th grade history. Mr. D!

Looks like a trip to the library to really decipher. But that's OK, the librarians name is Sabre. Like the jet.
I did however use a version of Nero fiddling while Rome burns, today. Impressive DC intern knew, so there is hope.
 
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The irony of course, is that it is MAGA who wants to tell Americans what they can and can not buy, who they can and can not do business with, and what their profits should and should not be.

It is an interesting conundrum that a MAGA supporter would say they are against authoritarianism and greater government control of private enterprise, then back a candidate that prefers Russia, China and Iran over the Western world.
 
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The irony of course, is that it is MAGA who wants to tell Americans what they can and can not buy, who they can and can not do business with, and what their profits should and should not be.

It is an interesting conundrum that a MAGA supporter would say they are against authoritarianism and greater government control of private enterprise, then back a candidate that prefers Russia, China and Iran over the Western world.
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You are so full of shit.
 
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It is an interesting conundrum that a MAGA supporter would say they are against authoritarianism and greater government control of private enterprise, then back a candidate that prefers Russia, China and Iran over the Western world.
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Its just a fact. And something the the leader of the MAGA party repeatedly states. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

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Fact-checking Trump's comments urging Russia to invade 'delinquent' NATO members

Trump's comment on Saturday represented the latest instance in which the former president and Republican front-runner seemed to side with an authoritarian state over America's democratic allies.
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That's your evidence? You undoubtably believe the VA nazi BS and drinking bleach nonsense. Just face it no matter what he says or does you'll believe any bullshit that PBS, Axios, Salon, CNN, MSNBC.............................................................................say and you'll happily regurgitate it like it's gospel. But what I never see is any negative stories about Biden or any of his minions seems odd for a true conservative.
 
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That's your evidence? You undoubtably believe the VA nazi BS and drinking bleach nonsense. Just face it no matter what he says or does you'll believe any bullshit that PBS, Axios, Salon, CNN, MSNBC.............................................................................say and you'll happily regurgitate it like it's gospel. But what I never see is any negative stories about Biden or any of his minions seems odd for a true conservative.
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Biden is a worse President than even Carter. I think we all agree on that. No dispute between any of us on that fact. And you guys cover it quite well, and I agree.

Unfortunately, some are as blind to the MAGA leader as liberals are to Biden.

With respect to MAGA's support for authoritarians over western democracies, or even Russian intelligence services over American intelligence services, I simply listen to his words. Trying to spin them as pro-western or pro Nato, when they cleary are not, is about as credible as when Jean Pierre does it for Biden.

I know the truth offends a lot of the Kool Aid drinkers in here, but it is simply the objective truth. And the truth is that 60 to 70 percent of America wants neither Biden nor Trump. I am simply in that majority of Americans.
 
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Biden is a worse President than even Carter. I think we all agree on that. No dispute between any of us on that fact. And you guys cover it quite well, and I agree.

Unfortunately, some are as blind to the MAGA leader as liberals are to Biden.

With respect to MAGA's support for authoritarians over western democracies, or even Russian intelligence services over American intelligence services, I simply listen to his words. Trying to spin them as pro-western or pro Nato, when they cleary are not, is about as credible as when Jean Pierre does it for Biden.

I know the truth offends a lot of the Kool Aid drinkers in here, but it is simply the objective truth. And the truth is that 60 to 70 percent of America wants neither Biden nor Trump. I am simply in that majority of Americans.
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Simple fact is that you're broken and Trump is the one holding the hammer just like all the talking heads on tv and in print.
 
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This 9-0 SCOTUS victory for Trump is really a HUGE VICTORY for WE THE PEOPLE.

All 9 Justices voted that Trump CANNOT be removed from the ballot in ANY STATE!

This is a MONUMENTAL WIN for Trump, rule of law, JUSTICE and a HUGE smack in the face against the Communists that seek to subvert, and interfere with our elections!

It’s also a HUGE VICTORY for all of the victims of January 6th, because the WHOLE premise of this case was using the 14th Amendment to attempt to keep Trump off the ballot in Colorado because he was involved in an “Insurrection”

This ruling should also nullify any justification for calling J6 as a whole, an “Insurrection”.

SCOTUS just effectively killed the false J6 narrative, 9-0!

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530RL said:
Biden is a worse President than even Carter. I think we all agree on that. No dispute between any of us on that fact. And you guys cover it quite well, and I agree.

Unfortunately, some are as blind to the MAGA leader as liberals are to Biden.

With respect to MAGA's support for authoritarians over western democracies, or even Russian intelligence services over American intelligence services, I simply listen to his words. Trying to spin them as pro-western or pro Nato, when they cleary are not, is about as credible as when Jean Pierre does it for Biden.

I know the truth offends a lot of the Kool Aid drinkers in here, but it is simply the objective truth. And the truth is that 60 to 70 percent of America wants neither Biden nor Trump. I am simply in that majority of Americans.
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Hard pressed to recall an election that wasn't the choice of the lesser of two evils...
 
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