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Wrong dumbass, this article refers to people that committed fraud with TARP funds, not that actually caused the collapse. It spells it out within the first paragraphs

"More than $400 billion in TARP funds were distributed to banks that were in danger of failing during the financial crisis. The TARP inspector general has been prosecuting cases of fraud in the use of those funds."

TARP funds came AFTER the collapse, which would be self explanatory to anyone with a couple brain cells.
Lol

Read again. This time more slowly.
 

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Give it up guys Ole 530 has such a TDS problem he can pretzel anything to fit his narrative . The facts are all his appraisals had disclaimers attached to them . Experts , bankers , and forensic accountants all testified that they saw no intentional fraud . Let ole 530 have his fun for now . We know this will get overturned .
Not so sure that will ever happen. The conditions this judge set are insane. Trump cannot get the money from any bank that does business in NY. He has to get the money within 30 days. He has to continue paying interest on the money to the state. So unless the higher courts decide to hear the case outside of the conditions that the judge set, expect Tish James to be seizing buildings in a couple months. And remember what values they attached to these properties. They are going to try to seize everything. There will be illegals living in Trump tower before election day.

We still believe that the truth will win.

It's time to start thinking about what happens when they decide that truth doesn't matter in court, only ideology and power..
 

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Lol

Read again. This time more slowly.

I think it's you that needs to read it... More Slowly....

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Not so sure that will ever happen. The conditions this judge set are insane. Trump cannot get the money from any bank that does business in NY. He has to get the money within 30 days. He has to continue paying interest on the money to the state. So unless the higher courts decide to hear the case outside of the conditions that the judge set, expect Tish James to be seizing buildings in a couple months. And remember what values they attached to these properties. They are going to try to seize everything. There will be illegals living in Trump tower before election day.

We still believe that the truth will win.

It's time to start thinking about what happens when they decide that truth doesn't matter in court, only ideology and power..
Would you underwrite a bond for Trump given what came out in this trial? His defense in this case is that he has no obligation to tell the truth about value, size, zoning, deed restrictions or anything else.

His position as well as his defenders in here is that he can completely make shit up to induce someone to underwrite a bond. Doesn’t have to even be supportable, all he has to do is put a disclaimer on it.

That’s a tough pitch to your bosses. Maybe Elon can put the 580 million of cash up for the appeals on his last two losses.
 

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I think it's you that needs to read it... More Slowly....

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Clearly loans originated in 2010 were responsible for the 2007-08 crisis. You just don't understand the world of international time-flexible finance. This is why we have experts like Judge Engoron to find criminals guilty without a trial so we can take their money for government operations.

Just stay in your lane..
 

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Would you underwrite a bond for Trump given what came out in this trial? His defense in this case is that he has no obligation to tell the truth about value, size, zoning, deed restrictions or anything else.

His position as well as his defenders in here is that he can completely make shit up to induce someone to underwrite a bond. Doesn’t have to even be supportable, all he has to do is put a disclaimer on it.

That’s a tough pitch to your bosses. Maybe Elon can put the 580 million of cash up for the appeals on his last two losses.
The point, sir, is that an agent of the government has made it illegal for any bank that does any business in NY (so all of them) to give Trump money for the purpose of posting bond.

Whether or not they want to is irrelevant. How fucking stupid do you have to be to not understand the difference?

Or again, is the point that you are so consumed with anger that you are lying to try to muddy the water? Do you miss your late nights with Jeff that much?
 

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The point, sir, is that an agent of the government has made it illegal for any bank that does any business in NY (so all of them) to give Trump money for the purpose of posting bond.

Whether or not they want to is irrelevant. How fucking stupid do you have to be to not understand the difference?

Or again, is the point that you are so consumed with anger that you are lying to try to muddy the water? Do you miss your late nights with Jeff that much?
I don’t believe that is true but I’m happy to defer if you can show me where in the judges ruling it says that.

His order which supersedes his previous order “prohibits Trump from serving as an officer or director of any New York firm for three years.”

It does not bar Trump or the Trump organization from engaging in business or entering into a binding agreement with a NY bank as you suggest.

Could you please post up that section of the order. Thanks.
 

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Could you please expand on how 2010 loan activity caused the 2007 loan crisis? Thanks!
Sure

Operation Stolen Dreams, a specific undertaking by the FBI in 2010, targeted mortgage fraud leading up to and during the financial crisis. I know this as I testified in two cases.

Your Welcome 👍
 

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Would you underwrite a bond for Trump given what came out in this trial? His defense in this case is that he has no obligation to tell the truth about value, size, zoning, deed restrictions or anything else.

His position as well as his defenders in here is that he can completely make shit up to induce someone to underwrite a bond. Doesn’t have to even be supportable, all he has to do is put a disclaimer on it.

That’s a tough pitch to your bosses. Maybe Elon can put the 580 million of cash up for the appeals on his last two losses.

How is that inducing anyone to underwrite a bond. The underwriters job is to do their due diligence, if there were issues why didn't the find them and decide to deny the loan? These guys don't just hand out cash and say "We just took his word for it" 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

It's completely preposterous and you know it
 

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Would you underwrite a bond for Trump given what came out in this trial? His defense in this case is that he has no obligation to tell the truth about value, size, zoning, deed restrictions or anything else.

His position as well as his defenders in here is that he can completely make shit up to induce someone to underwrite a bond. Doesn’t have to even be supportable, all he has to do is put a disclaimer on it.

That’s a tough pitch to your bosses. Maybe Elon can put the 580 million of cash up for the appeals on his last two losses.

Hahaha the scumbag is butt hurt Donnie and Elon are exposing him and his friends for the scum they are. 😆
 

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Sure

Operation Stolen Dreams, a specific undertaking by the FBI in 2010, targeted mortgage fraud leading up to and during the financial crisis. I know this as I testified in two cases.

Your Welcome 👍
I will just assume the FBI is lying, and 530 is telling the truth, Since the report he linked is extremely specific. Emphasis added...


"The purpose of this study is to provide insight into the breadth and depth of mortgage fraud crimes perpetrated against the United States and its citizens during 2010. This report updates the 2009 Mortgage Fraud Report and addresses current mortgage fraud projections, issues, and the identification of mortgage fraud “hot spots.” The objective of this study is to provide FBI program managers and the general public with relevant data to better understand the threat posed by mortgage fraud. The report was requested by the Financial Crimes Section, Criminal Investigative Division (CID), and prepared by the Financial Crimes Intelligence Unit (FCIU), Directorate of Intelligence (DI)."
 

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How is that inducing anyone to underwrite a bond. The underwriters job is to do their due diligence, if there were issues why didn't the find them and decide to deny the loan? These guys don't just hand out cash and say "We just took his word for it" 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

It's completely preposterous and you know it
Lol

The law says you must submit your application in good faith. Not make shit up.

An underwriter assumes the applicant has provided information in good faith.

What is preposterous is your notion that someone can submit complete and total fraud and it now falls on the underwriter to figure it out in their due diligence. It is expected under law that all applicants for credit have a good faith adequate basis for their representations on their application for credit to a financial institution. Without an expectation of a good faith application, credit markets freeze up.

I’m a little surprised you don’t understand this basic premise. 🤷
 

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Lol

The law says you must submit your application in good faith. Not make shit up.

An underwriter assumes the applicant has provided information in good faith.

What is preposterous is your notion that someone can submit complete and total fraud and it now falls on the underwriter to figure it out in their due diligence. It is expected under law that all applicants for credit have a good faith adequate basis for their representations on their application for credit to a financial institution. Without an expectation of a good faith application, credit markets freeze up.

I’m a little surprised you don’t understand this basic premise. 🤷

They could have actually given Trump the chance to defend the charges, but nope, summary judgement. Big Government, you love it! 🤡🤡🤣🤣🤣

You have no credibility, just like this judge, it's pretty comical listening to your repetitive and cyclical bullshit 🤣🤣🤣
 

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They could have actually given Trump the chance to defend the charges, but nope, summary judgement. Big Government, you love it! 🤡🤡🤣🤣🤣

You have no credibility, just like this judge, it's pretty comical listening to your repetitive and cyclical bullshit 🤣🤣🤣
Lol

When one can’t rebut the message, might as well attack the messenger.



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Lol

The law says you must submit your application in good faith. Not make shit up.

An underwriter assumes the applicant has provided information in good faith.

What is preposterous is your notion that someone can submit complete and total fraud and it now falls on the underwriter to figure it out in their due diligence. It is expected under law that all applicants for credit have a good faith adequate basis for their representations on their application for credit to a financial institution. Without an expectation of a good faith application, credit markets freeze up.

I’m a little surprised you don’t understand this basic premise. 🤷
The banks just use the application as a guide to your assets. THEY then determine what you’re worth and make their decision.

If the law actually was enforced the way yore trying to describe it, there would be BILLIONS of prosecutions you lying ass clown!!!

Justifying communism……….priceless!!!!!!! 😆
 

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This is the valid appellate argument.

Not that Trump didn't commit fraud, he did, but that the penalties have no basis in economic reality and should be greatly reduced.
You've been taking lessons from Kamela again, haven't you? Your poignant sucks. Must've been the goal.
 

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If he paid you enough would you represent him in court? 😅
Generating a receivable is not the same as getting paid.

It’s not hard to figure out why he has second and third string representation.
 

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Define patriot for me in your terms.
Let's go through the check list. 😜
Someone that upholds the US Constitution, Someone that doesn't take us citizens rights away, a person that loves America. Pretty simple, the complete opposite or the democratic party and what the rinos stand for. Where do you stand on that? Don't worry I already know, the TDS is strong in you😜

Trump said pussy
 

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Someone that upholds the US Constitution, Someone that doesn't take us citizens rights away, a person that loves America. Pretty simple, the complete opposite or the democratic party and what the rinos stand for. Where do you stand on that? Don't worry I already know, the TDS is strong in you😜
Why you attacking me…. I'm not running for president. I'm just one person, who's not voting for Trump.
I can tell you he had four years, and fucked up this country more than any one president has in the past. How's all those tax Trump tax changes going for you?

We already know Trump won't win. The numbers are not there.

McCain said it best….”no peace” Fuck Trump, Fuck Lake. 😁
 

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Why you attacking me…. I'm not running for president. I'm just one person, who's not voting for Trump.
I can tell you he had four years, and fucked up this country more than any one president has in the past. How's all those tax Trump tax changes going for you?

We already know Trump won't win. The numbers are not there.

McCain said it best….”no peace” Fuck Trump, Fuck Lake. 😁
Pussy, pussy, pussy!

Yeah he did worse than biden, RIIIGHT. America was in way better shape under Trump than obama and way better than it is now, biden and obama have destroyed this country. It's amazing how much you hate this country, especially since you served it. SMH, I love this country more than you.
 

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Why you attacking me…. I'm not running for president. I'm just one person, who's not voting for Trump.
I can tell you he had four years, and fucked up this country more than any one president has in the past. How's all those tax Trump tax changes going for you?

We already know Trump won't win. The numbers are not there.

McCain said it best….”no peace” Fuck Trump, Fuck Lake. 😁
"I can tell you he had four years, and fucked up this country more than any one president has in the past." oh please explain, I want to hear this lol.
 

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The boarder was worse, inflation was worse, he started WW3.....
You know, i've always tried to be respectful and have patience and show respect to everyone in here regardless of their views. I will honestly say when I see post like these my patience runs really thin. I mean at least back up your comments, 530 keep talking about Trumps spending and Jan 6th and harps on it but keeps coming back for more which I respect honestly. Then we have guys like OJ spout complete bs because he's either clueless or his TDS is off the charts. I really feel some of these guys live in a different world, kind of like celebs and have no real clue on how the world works. I see real world and economic ups and downs in my industry which I don't talk about because I am a private person. Honestly though geez, some people in here or that were in here before getting banned don't see "real world" results sometimes.
 

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You know, i've always tried to be respectful and have patience and show respect to everyone in here regardless of their views. I will honestly say when I see post like these my patience runs really thin. I mean at least back up your comments, 530 keep talking about Trumps spending and Jan 6th and harps on it but keeps coming back for more which I respect honestly. Then we have guys like OJ spout complete bs because he's either clueless or his TDS is off the charts. I really feel some of these guys live in a different world, kind of like celebs and have no real clue on how the world works. I see real world and economic ups and downs in my industry which I don't talk about because I am a private person. Honestly though geez, some people in here or that were in here before getting banned don't see "real world" results sometimes.
When one thinks CNN and or WaPo, NY Times, La Times the View are a beacon of truth, yet posters like Racey or Regor tell nothing but lies it is easy to get a distorted view. Our commie media distorts 99% of their political stories. One has to search around to find anything close to the truth.
 

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Someone that upholds the US Constitution, Someone that doesn't take us citizens rights away, a person that loves America. Pretty simple, the complete opposite or the democratic party and what the rinos stand for. Where do you stand on that? Don't worry I already know, the TDS is strong in you😜

Trump said pussy

You’re debating an imbecile that wears a face diaper and terminates his employees if they don’t.

Don’t forget that. 😆
 

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You know, i've always tried to be respectful and have patience and show respect to everyone in here regardless of their views. I will honestly say when I see post like these my patience runs really thin. I mean at least back up your comments, 530 keep talking about Trumps spending and Jan 6th and harps on it but keeps coming back for more which I respect honestly. Then we have guys like OJ spout complete bs because he's either clueless or his TDS is off the charts. I really feel some of these guys live in a different world, kind of like celebs and have no real clue on how the world works. I see real world and economic ups and downs in my industry which I don't talk about because I am a private person. Honestly though geez, some people in here or that were in here before getting banned don't see "real world" results sometimes.
In a large global economy, different people see different “real world” results all the time regardless of who is president. It is just a reality. There are always winners and losers.

The “real world” facts are that the overall economy is pretty good. But you would think by some of the posts in here we are in the second Great Depression.

People give way too much credit or blame to politics and political leaders for their success or failure. And in some cases it paralyzes or retards their success.

The world isn’t going to end because Trump is reelected or because Biden is reelected. It’s just going to do whatever it does with 8 billion people each attempting to do what is best for themselves.
 

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In a large global economy, different people see different “real world” results all the time regardless of who is president. It is just a reality. There are always winners and losers.

The “real world” facts are that the overall economy is pretty good. But you would think by some of the posts in here we are in the second Great Depression.

People give way too much credit or blame to politics and political leaders for their success or failure. And in some cases it paralyzes or retards their success.

The world isn’t going to end because Trump is reelected or because Biden is reelected. It’s just going to do whatever it does with 8 billion people each attempting to do what is best for themselves.

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Blah, blah, blah, blah……... 🤣
 

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In a large global economy, different people see different “real world” results all the time regardless of who is president. It is just a reality. There are always winners and losers.

The “real world” facts are that the overall economy is pretty good. But you would think by some of the posts in here we are in the second Great Depression.

People give way too much credit or blame to politics and political leaders for their success or failure. And in some cases it paralyzes or retards their success.

The world isn’t going to end because Trump is reelected or because Biden is reelected. It’s just going to do whatever it does with 8 billion people each attempting to do what is best for themselves.
Like I have stated many of times, I understand how different administrations affect people financially in different ways. I have specifically said that to you because I understand how an administration can affect offshore businesses. I have friends who run and work with companies that do nothing but import goods from China and other countries.

I am not just talking about that though. We have some serious issues brewing that we just haven't seen the results yet. First off is the border, now say what you will about what administration did what and so on but the facts are currently this administration has let in millions, I think the number is somewhere around 7million in 3 years. Let's all cut the bs here for a second, this isn't 7 million people looking for a better life. Numerous reports and videos of people from all over the world not just south of the border are coming into the states that aren't here for a better life. The people who attacked NYPD cops were found to have cartel ties and let free laughing in front of news cameras flipping them off because of Soros backed DA'S who let them walk. That is just one small example of what's to come here in the future. I know lots of people that work in law enforcement. It's sad to see the moral down because they know they can't do their jobs due to politics. Again, "real world" stuff that I see.

I can keep going and going talking about different things but the point is this administration is damaging this country so much in such a short period of time that not everyone has seen the results. Is Trump the savior of the world, no he isn't. Is he perfect, no lol by all means he isn't. The facts are though we didn't have a border crisis, we had lower fuel prices, a stable economy, consumer confidence was high, and so on. What happened while all this was going on? You had multiple goose hunts on the man blockades from all directions of congress trying to slow or stop him. Three years later still attacking the man like we've never seen before. It's obvious he's such a threat to their agenda that people even on the left see it.

In the end, will he win? Who knows, but I will say this, if this country continues down this path for another 4 years we are going to be in some serious trouble locally and globally period.
 

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Like I have stated many of times, I understand how different administrations affect people financially in different ways. I have specifically said that to you because I understand how an administration can affect offshore businesses. I have friends who run and work with companies that do nothing but import goods from China and other countries.

I am not just talking about that though. We have some serious issues brewing that we just haven't seen the results yet. First off is the border, now say what you will about what administration did what and so on but the facts are currently this administration has let in millions, I think the number is somewhere around 7million in 3 years. Let's all cut the bs here for a second, this isn't 7 million people looking for a better life. Numerous reports and videos of people from all over the world not just south of the border are coming into the states that aren't here for a better life. The people who attacked NYPD cops were found to have cartel ties and let free laughing in front of news cameras flipping them off because of Soros backed DA'S who let them walk. That is just one small example of what's to come here in the future. I know lots of people that work in law enforcement. It's sad to see the moral down because they know they can't do their jobs due to politics. Again, "real world" stuff that I see.

I can keep going and going talking about different things but the point is this administration is damaging this country so much in such a short period of time that not everyone has seen the results. Is Trump the savior of the world, no he isn't. Is he perfect, no lol by all means he isn't. The facts are though we didn't have a border crisis, we had lower fuel prices, a stable economy, consumer confidence was high, and so on. What happened while all this was going on? You had multiple goose hunts on the man blockades from all directions of congress trying to slow or stop him. Three years later still attacking the man like we've never seen before. It's obvious he's such a threat to their agenda that people even on the left see it.

In the end, will he win? Who knows, but I will say this, if this country continues down this path for another 4 years we are going to be in some serious trouble locally and globally period.
I will say this no matter what happens, the Turd Tickler will still have Cockbreath...
 

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Like I have stated many of times, I understand how different administrations affect people financially in different ways. I have specifically said that to you because I understand how an administration can affect offshore businesses. I have friends who run and work with companies that do nothing but import goods from China and other countries.

I am not just talking about that though. We have some serious issues brewing that we just haven't seen the results yet. First off is the border, now say what you will about what administration did what and so on but the facts are currently this administration has let in millions, I think the number is somewhere around 7million in 3 years. Let's all cut the bs here for a second, this isn't 7 million people looking for a better life. Numerous reports and videos of people from all over the world not just south of the border are coming into the states that aren't here for a better life. The people who attacked NYPD cops were found to have cartel ties and let free laughing in front of news cameras flipping them off because of Soros backed DA'S who let them walk. That is just one small example of what's to come here in the future. I know lots of people that work in law enforcement. It's sad to see the moral down because they know they can't do their jobs due to politics. Again, "real world" stuff that I see.

I can keep going and going talking about different things but the point is this administration is damaging this country so much in such a short period of time that not everyone has seen the results. Is Trump the savior of the world, no he isn't. Is he perfect, no lol by all means he isn't. The facts are though we didn't have a border crisis, we had lower fuel prices, a stable economy, consumer confidence was high, and so on. What happened while all this was going on? You had multiple goose hunts on the man blockades from all directions of congress trying to slow or stop him. Three years later still attacking the man like we've never seen before. It's obvious he's such a threat to their agenda that people even on the left see it.

In the end, will he win? Who knows, but I will say this, if this country continues down this path for another 4 years we are going to be in some serious trouble locally and globally period.
Fair enough.

I’m not sure if one is concerned about the border, they would support the candidate and party that refused to even address the bi-partisan legislation to deal with the border? That’s how stuff gets done in America, and my way or the highway isn’t going to even begin to address the issue.

I’m also not sure why if one supports law enforcement, they would support a candidate and party that has vowed to pardon individuals who physically assaulted law enforcement? What sort of message does that send to criminals? Not exactly a morale booster for law enforcement.

And I’m certainly not sure if one is worried about American national security they would back a candidate and party that wants to give Ukraine to Russia and leave NATO sending the clear message to Russia, China, Iran and N Korea that the US is not getting involved so have at it. Take what you want, America’s role as a super power is now over. It’s “America First” whatever that marketing slogan means.

So we each do our own analysis and then get a vote.
 

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Fair enough.

I’m not sure if one is concerned about the border, they would support the candidate and party that refused to even address the bi-partisan legislation to deal with the border? That’s how stuff gets done in America, and my way or the highway isn’t going to even begin to address the issue.

I’m also not sure why if one supports law enforcement, they would support a candidate and party that has vowed to pardon individuals who physically assaulted law enforcement? What sort of message does that send to criminals? Not exactly a morale booster for law enforcement.

And I’m certainly not sure if one is worried about American national security they would back a candidate and party that wants to give Ukraine to Russia and leave NATO sending the clear message to Russia, China, Iran and N Korea that the US is not getting involved so have at it. Take what you want, America’s role as a super power is now over. It’s “America First” whatever that marketing slogan means.

So we each do our own analysis and then get a vote.
Lie number 1: The "national security" bill aka "the bipartisan border bill" was over 100billion dollars of money for other countries. It then set a minimum of 8500 illegal crossings per day before requiring the rest of the asylum claims for that day to go through a port of entry. but that is also misleading, because those 8500 were to be adult criminals. it allows unlimited illegal crossings of people claiming to be minors. Then it provided 17 billion dollars to speed up the production of documents for the minimum 2 million new illegal aliens that this bill guaranteed per year. so bottom line, this was actually a "fund Ukrainian oligarchs" bill that guaranteed 2 million illegal aliens. Ant the Republicans in the house dealt with it. by saying no.

Lie number 2: the idea that somehow Republicans, even the j6 Republicans, are somehow against law enforcement, is a complete joke. now, that does not mean that they do, or should, support political ideology enforcement agencies. and that is what some of these agencies are. the funniest part of these arguments you are making is, however, that you clearly did not bother to watch the j6 tapes. you are relying on the Adam schiff report, and are completely clueless about what happened. And interestingly, you are completely uninterested in the 5/29 attack. So you don't care that the white house grounds were firebombed, or that more secret service were injured, because it does not fit your left wing agenda.

Lie 3: Trump is not trying to leave NATO, and Trump is not encouraging Russia to attack NATO. Trump is telling NATO to meet spending targets for defense so Russia cannot attack. But you love this Lie. you repeat it over and over.


Again, it has to be asked, is 530 a liar, an idiot, or a traitor? Because everything he types in untrue, for a purpose.
 
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