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What I am specifically referring to with the Ratfuckery comment is targeted voter suppression... And for the record I include well meaning "Patriots" patrolling the streets out of concern for fellow "Merikans as a suppression tactic. The left does not gain when the vote is suppressed so you can easily conclude which side is more likely to do that. "Trump Trains" tying up traffic should be included in this same category.

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The charges in the 2008 cases should have never been dropped. Would have like to see that one go all the way to the SCOTUS.

So in your mind, it was a close enough call to go all the way up?

And you wonder why I can't take you seriously anymore?

Fuckin guys are actually carrying batons at a polling place.
 

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I think you’re drunk.
But I’m not judging, I’m pouring my first one now.

There will be riots, I agree 100%.
It’ll be by the same fuckheads doing it now.
There isn’t any voter suppression going on because of patriots in chest rigs dummy.

Switch off CNN immediately.

Tucker starts in 2 hours, he'll set it straight for you.
Even hate watching CNN just to see what the other side is saying is infuriating. Don Lemon and Van Jones are the biggest scumbags of them all. My blood pressure can’t take it.
 

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So in your mind, it was a close enough call to go all the way up?

And you wonder why I can't take you seriously anymore?

Fuckin guys are actually carrying batons at a polling place.


Hell no, they are guilty as hell. I would have like to have seen election integrity get some high profile coverage for a change.
 

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Hell no, they are guilty as hell. I would have like to have seen election integrity get some high profile coverage for a change.

So, perhaps then, you see why we laugh off statements of R intimidation. A Trump pick-up truck rally certainly wouldn't qualify in my mind.
 

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“He’s not Trump” is pretty compelling for most.

If that’s not enough here are a few more.

I would like a president who is informed by and listens to scientist.

I would like a president who realizes we live on a globe and that Americans are better off by building and maintaining relationships with long term allies and trade partners.

I would like a president who has a plan for fixing the broken healthcare model we have in this country.

I would like a president who is willing to invest in civic infrastructure.

I would like a president who goes all in on building an energy industry based on renewables.

I would like a president who believes she is president of all 50 states, not just the ones who voted for her.

I would like a president who is willing to take appropriate action to streamline and legitimize the immigration process in this country.

I would like a president who doesn’t spend like a drunken sailor after cutting taxes on the ultra wealthy.

I would like a president who doesn’t think “There are fine people” in a group marching under Nazi symbols.

I would like a president who doesn’t compel my international co-workers to genuinely express concern for my safety and fellow countryman’s sanity.

(How many more would you like)
Ok you made points some how you actually believe. Do you see Democrats running California well when compared to Republican run states?
I know the high cost of taxes in California and have traveled the country extensively, I have personally noticed we don’t get a lot for our tax money here. We have some of the worst roads if not the worst in the country, more trash than anywhere I’ve ever been, and the biggest homeless population per capita. San Francisco appears to be the epitome of Democrat leadership which looks to me like they’ve taken one of the most beautiful cities in the world and allowed it to become as dirty as a third world country. Why don’t you expect that from a Biden, fuck it let’s call it for what it is, a Harris administration?
 

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Ok you made points some how you actually believe. Do you see Democrats running California well when compared to Republican run states?
I know the high cost of taxes in California and have traveled the country extensively, I have personally noticed we don’t get a lot for our tax money here. We have some of the worst roads if not the worst in the country, more trash than anywhere I’ve ever been, and the biggest homeless population per capita. San Francisco appears to be the epitome of Democrat leadership which looks to me like they’ve taken one of the most beautiful cities in the world and allowed it to become as dirty as a third world country. Why don’t you expect that from a Biden, fuck it let’s call it for what it is, a Harris administration?

He does not believe any of it.
 

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Ok you made points some how you actually believe. Do you see Democrats running California well when compared to Republican run states?
I know the high cost of taxes in California and have traveled the country extensively, I have personally noticed we don’t get a lot for our tax money here. We have some of the worst roads if not the worst in the country, more trash than anywhere I’ve ever been, and the biggest homeless population per capita. San Francisco appears to be the epitome of Democrat leadership which looks to me like they’ve taken one of the most beautiful cities in the world and allowed it to become as dirty as a third world country. Why don’t you expect that from a Biden, fuck it let’s call it for what it is, a Harris administration?


Have not lived in Ca since 1976, have never worked or paid taxes there and don't have much of idea of the differences between R's and D's except for one thing...

Smog

I remember being sent home from school on "Smog Days" Not sure if you want to blame the cleanup on the R's or the D's but dammit you guys pay a lot of taxes and should be able to see the air you are breathing.

Yea yea... All that CARB stuff cost everybody Billions upon Billions of dollars and is just another example of government over reach...
 

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Have not lived in Ca since 1976, have never worked or paid taxes there and don't have much of idea of the differences between R's and D's except for one thing...

Smog

I remember being sent home from school on "Smog Days" Not sure if you want to blame the cleanup on the R's or the D's but dammit you guys pay a lot of taxes and should be able to see the air you are breathing.

Yea yea... All that CARB stuff cost everybody Billions upon Billions of dollars and is just another example of government over reach...

You know, I liked you better before last week.
Back then you were always so crazy and confident. Always full of shit of course but I just figured it was your leftist brainwashing and whatever. Never thought of you as ignorant.
Gotta tell you...this new tactic of claiming ignorance and no knowledge about anything does not wear well on you.
But it also makes sense in a lot of ways.
I’m really let down.
 

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So, perhaps then, you see why we laugh off statements of R intimidation. A Trump pick-up truck rally certainly wouldn't qualify in my mind.


You may be laughing but others are not...





 

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You know, I liked you better before last week.
Back then you were always so crazy and confident. Always full of shit of course but I just figured it was your leftist brainwashing and whatever. Never thought of you as ignorant.
Gotta tell you...this new tactic of claiming ignorance and no knowledge about anything does not wear well on you.
But it also makes sense in a lot of ways.
I’m really let down.


I liked me better last week as well...


Had to soften up the tone a bit in order to hook the fish I want.

Fear not things will be all better after Biden wins 335 or so EC votes.
 

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You may be laughing but others are not...






Mother fucker!
I just spit my whiskey out!!

Lol...Time? USA Today? NPR??

Dude. You gotta stop this.
 

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I liked me better last week as well...


Had to soften up the tone a bit in order to hook the fish I want.

Fear not things will be all better after Biden wins 335 or so EC votes.

Is that bet chum??
 

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Have not lived in Ca since 1976, have never worked or paid taxes there and don't have much of idea of the differences between R's and D's except for one thing...

Smog

I remember being sent home from school on "Smog Days" Not sure if you want to blame the cleanup on the R's or the D's but dammit you guys pay a lot of taxes and should be able to see the air you are breathing.

Yea yea... All that CARB stuff cost everybody Billions upon Billions of dollars and is just another example of government over reach...

This is some next level fishing as well...

:rolleyes:
 

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Have not lived in Ca since 1976, have never worked or paid taxes there and don't have much of idea of the differences between R's and D's except for one thing...

Smog

I remember being sent home from school on "Smog Days" Not sure if you want to blame the cleanup on the R's or the D's but dammit you guys pay a lot of taxes and should be able to see the air you are breathing.

Yea yea... All that CARB stuff cost everybody Billions upon Billions of dollars and is just another example of government over reach...

Where did you live, Pomona?
 

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The grandfathered individual PPO plan Debbie had when she was sick was the godsend. I had to drop mine and change employers to go with a employer group plan for me so I could afford to pay hers. There was no way in hell I was letting her plan get away or lapse. No fucking way.

It was almost $950 when she passed, but that included a very small life rider.

I know the feeling Tommy. I am in the same boat. The insurance we have is from the wife’s former employer. She is running out of time with long term disability. She is worry about insurance. It is worth EVERY penny spent so that wife has medical that will take care of her no matter what. Case and point. She has to go in for another MRI. They for something they want to look at on her liver. I am praying that there is not something else going on in her body.

Anyway.......Trump 2020!!!!!!

I can’t wait for the whole thing to be over so we can go on with life.
 

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I think squeezers mad because Biden/ Harris can’t muster enough car to impede traffic?


I don’t know he is so upset. They have been blocking traffic for months. Only difference is that vehicles were being this time. SMH
 

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I know the feeling Tommy. I am in the same boat. The insurance we have is from the wife’s former employer. She is running out of time with long term disability. She is worry about insurance. It is worth EVERY penny spent so that wife has medical that will take care of her no matter what. Case and point. She has to go in for another MRI. They for something they want to look at on her liver. I am praying that there is not something else going on in her body.

Anyway.......Trump 2020!!!!!!

I can’t wait for the whole thing to be over so we can go on with life.

I think of your situation often, keep going forward. That’s how we win.
Prayers as always.
 

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my question is after 4 years now where is his health care program ? He keeps saying next week but nothing yet. It would be nice to have some affordable health care and we haven’t seen that yet.

Not possible to even introduce any plans as the left refused to come to the table to talk.
 

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“He’s not Trump” is pretty compelling for most.

If that’s not enough here are a few more.

I would like a president who is informed by and listens to scientist.

I would like a president who realizes we live on a globe and that Americans are better off by building and maintaining relationships with long term allies and trade partners.

I would like a president who has a plan for fixing the broken healthcare model we have in this country.

I would like a president who is willing to invest in civic infrastructure.

I would like a president who goes all in on building an energy industry based on renewables.

I would like a president who believes she is president of all 50 states, not just the ones who voted for her.

I would like a president who is willing to take appropriate action to streamline and legitimize the immigration process in this country.

I would like a president who doesn’t spend like a drunken sailor after cutting taxes on the ultra wealthy.

I would like a president who doesn’t think “There are fine people” in a group marching under Nazi symbols.

I would like a president who doesn’t compel my international co-workers to genuinely express concern for my safety and fellow countryman’s sanity.

(How many more would you like)
Lame
 

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I think we are underestimating Biden’s strength, character and mental acuity.

He’s definitely got it all together...just look at this from Saturday in Detroit. 3 minute clip.

 

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I think we are underestimating Biden’s strength, character and mental acuity.

He’s definitely got it all together...just look at this from Saturday in Detroit. 3 minute clip.

I can understand this guy better
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I'm pretty excited to see what Kamala can do. I think she will be good for the boating, offroad, and ranching industries. Neither Biden nor Harris is equal to a Beto/Cory Booker ticket, but this is still very exciting.
Then you haven't been paying attention to calif . She'll run it up you ass every chance she gets and tax you more for doing it.
 

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Then you haven't been paying attention to calif . She'll run it up you ass every chance she gets and tax you more for doing it.

Lol. DAVE is just expressing his extreme sarcasm... he is one of the good guys
 

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For the life of me I can’t understand how anyone with half a brain can look at California and think “I want the country run like that”. If it weren’t for climate and loacation California would have very little going for it.
 

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For the life of me I can’t understand how anyone with half a brain can look at California and think “I want the country run like that”. If it weren’t for climate and loacation California would have very little going for it.

This is 100000000% spot on!!! This state is a complete joke. Been here 7+ years and can't wait to get out.
 

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This is 100000000% spot on!!! This state is a complete joke. Been here 7+ years and can't wait to get out.
If the boating you guys have available up there is not enough to make you want to stay that should be an indicator to everyone how fucked up a state run by Democrats can be. It’s boater heaven and not worth the bs.
 

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If the boating you guys have available up there is not enough to make you want to stay that should be an indicator to everyone how fucked up a state run by Democrats can be. It’s boater heaven and not worth the bs.

You are absolutely correct. We have met some wonderful people here. We bought a bigger boat 4 years ago to open up SF Bay, Petaluma, Napa & a thousand plus miles of the CA Delta. Boating is honestly the ONLY way my wife is keeping me here.
 

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Not a big poster but.........

I can speak from personal experience on ACA. Quick summary. Wife and kids got dropped from Cadillac employer plan January 2016. Filed appeal. Denied (Whole other story). Went on BC/BS website to buy insurance, you don’t deal with them directly. Received 20+ calls in first hour from brokerage houses nation wide. Picked one who told me he was selling me a Silver PPO, slightly less coverage than work plan but comparable in monthly cost.
Teen daughter starts having stomach issues (still unresolved) around September 2016. Wife takes daughter to third specialist for appointment in December, who proceeds to inform us that we don’t have actual insurance, rather a Supplemental plan. Long story long. $500 a month the entire year for HC, $138,000 dollars in medical debt all because the guy from an out of state brokerage told me one thing and then logged it as something different so he could get a larger signing bonus. Hired an attorney (still pending). Current update........brokerage house no longer exists, and multiple attorneys I spoke with said they’re seeing this all over due to open border policy on brokerage houses from state to state. Harder to control.
The problem isn’t providing health care for everyone. It’s the lack of regulation on health care companies and insurance companies from boosting prices since day one. This will never be fixed because Big Pharma and the like, line the political pockets. Same concept as Federally Backed Student Loans.
Another Democrat backed debacle by the way.

Oh and PS: had to pay the Feds an extra $3,600 in taxes as the penalty for not having insurance for me three dependents.
 

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With all due respect that article is written by someone pushing an agenda or dumber than a bag of rocks. You do know people are leaving California in droves because of being overtaxed and/or under served? As businesses and people with money leave the state who do you think will be picking up the bill for this failed socialist experiment? At some point I don’t see how the dumb fucks that vote Democrat here won’t regret it. You have to ask yourself what do the liberals that paid millions for beach front houses in Venice think now that surrounded by homeless encampments. At what point do you honestly believe Democratic governing can turn this disaster around? How would you like to be paying taxes and a mortgage on your vacant commercial property with ten more just like it within a five minute walk? This failed experiment is real and I don’t wish this on the rest of the country but hey there are people that actually believe that free shit is really free.
 

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With all due respect that article is written by someone pushing an agenda or dumber than a bag of rocks. You do know people are leaving California in droves because of being overtaxed and/or under served? As businesses and people with money leave the state who do you think will be picking up the bill for this failed socialist experiment? At some point I don’t see how the dumb fucks that vote Democrat here won’t regret it. You have to ask yourself what do the liberals that paid millions for beach front houses in Venice think now that surrounded by homeless encampments. At what point do you honestly believe Democratic governing can turn this disaster around? How would you like to be paying taxes and a mortgage on your vacant commercial property with ten more just like it within a five minute walk? This failed experiment is real and I don’t wish this on the rest of the country but hey there are people that actually believe that free shit is really free.


Great response... Wrong argument.

Demographics are not the result of politics, politics are the result of demographics.
 

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I've got to say that so many people seem concerned about affordable health care has me worried. Everyone talks about which side is going to offer a better health care plan and I don't think it should be the governments responsibility to insure anyone. What I think the governments responsibility should be is to make sure that health care is affordable and not a gravy train for the insurance company's. When I was growing up almost no one had health insurance, when you got sick you went to the doctor and paid for his services and they were affordable. that is where the true problem lies, not in what insurance plan is the best but the root cause is the forever escalating price of health care. If we can make health care more reasonable then we wont need gov. sponsored health care.
I might add the slobbering Hyenas in the room that nobody speaks of..
Lawyers and tort reform.
Could it have something to do with 96% of congress and politicians are made up lawyers?
Nah, perish the thought.
Edit: just saw I got VINed on this, oh well...
 
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