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[RiverDave]

Jeff, you should of seen Krazy Bitch driving it :eek
Lead foot is her new name

LOL.. I'd trust her over any of you guys..

We were running a Braksma 11.5 x 15 2 blade at 5500 -6000 rpm 7 lbs boost at 1/2 throttle at 100 - 103 mph, more throttle went no faster just got on the rev limiter at 6000. It also wicked the turbos up so fast the boat litteraly leaps out of the water from 75 - 90 mph.
I think somewhere around 57-63 gears should drop my rpm's and apply the power a little more manageable thru the power band.

103 means 105.. Still not tapping those turbos? Watchout!!

RD

 

[420HOA]

Pullin the V-drive today, should have the new one in a week, we are testing again on the 4-5-6 of October :thumbsup

 

[025]

Don't know if you interested or need them but I gave Gary at GT a set of 55's earlier this year. He probably still has them

 

[420HOA]

Don't know if you interested or need them but I gave Gary at GT a set of 55's earlier this year. He probably still has them

Thanks 025 but I bought a complete v-drive with 60's in it :thumbsup

 

[420HOA]

These 48 gears will soon be replaced by a billet case and 60 gears

 

[rivergames]

These 48 gears will soon be replaced by a billet case and 60 gears

Sweet :thumbup:

 

[nordic454]

This thing turned put awesome!:thumbsup

 

[420HOA]

Final paperworked filled out for entry form, all drivers now in place. We will putting out press realease on Monday of drivers, team/boat name and sponsors :thumbsup

 

[parker ed]

Final paperworked filled out for entry form, all drivers now in place. We will putting out press realease on Monday of drivers, team/boat name and sponsors :thumbsup

Did you get the v drive back together?

 

[420HOA]

Did you get the v drive back together?

Pick it up Tuesday along with the new seat :thumbsup

 

[420HOA]

Race team announcement
Click on PDF for info :thumbsup

 

[Riverbound]

Race team announcement
Click on PDF for info :thumbsup

Good job. Can't wait to see you on the water.

 

[rivergames]

Trade ya some P550 crackerbox shirts for some 420 shirts :thumbup:

 

[SPECTRABRENT]

Thats a great looking T-Shirt!

Good Luck,

Brent

 

[Bad Czech]

SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO OPEN THE PDF.......
Glenn Lyons Construction Inc., Builders of fine contemporary custom homes, is proud to announce their latest adventure in performance marine racing, Team Bloodshot 420 Racing.
Glenn Lyons, owner of Team Bloodshot Racing has entered into the RDP 336 Enduro race in division VI. Appropriately named, "Bloodshot 420", the beautiful 1991 21 Schiada external rudder River Cruiser is powered by a 540 TT EFI power plant producing 1150 HP on 91 octane fuel at 12 lbs. of boost. Glenn's boat and power plant were rigged and race prepped at the Masek Racing compound (at an undisclosed location somewhere in Culver City, California) with help from Matt, Glenn and brother in-law Rick Snavely . Wally winner Rick is no stranger to building and tuning big HP turbo motors and currently drives Team Bothwell's Turbos Direct Mustang in the True 10.5 division of the NMCA.
On board in the driver's seat will be Joe Masek and Tony Scarlata. Joe Masek will be running the first and final leg and Tony Scarlata will be running the intermediate leg. Joe, a former Lucas Oil Pro Buggy champion and former winner of the Parker 250 desert motorcycle race is also no stranger to speed on the water. Joe owns the Howard Flatty "Bad Czech" and the Schiada river cruiser "Bottom Line". Joe grew up with Glenn's wife Lori and brother Rick at the river watching their Dads drag race their boats to the finish line. Glenn and Joe share similar interests in all motor sports and both have knowledgeable backgrounds in construction and engineering. Tony Scarlata has an extensive drag boat racing background and is definitely no stranger to enduro racing having taken the checkered flag in last year's Parker 300. Tony is the perfect addition to the team, his racing knowledge and experience will help get Bloodshot 420 to the finish line ahead of the competition.
The Bloodshot 420 Racing Team is a collaboration of family and friends coming together as one, we are completely dedicated to finishing this race in the top spot. Team Bloodshot 420 is extremely excited to be part of the first annual RDP336 and knows that Bloodshot 420, her crew, as well as her drivers have a very good chance at the podium.
Glenn Lyons and Bloodshot 420 Racing would like to thank all of those involved with putting on this historical race. Glenn would also like to thank the team members and sponsors who have dedicated the last 3 months to creating this amazing boat and team.
Sponsors: Glenn Lyons Construction Inc.
Amber Electric Star Powder Coating Nickey Petroleum
Lucas Oil Islander Marine Prime Marine
Very special thanks to:Tom Masek (Masek racing engines), Rick Snavely (Engines by Snavely), Matt Roach (I screw, I nut) and of course our lovely wives and girlfriends, Lori Lyons (AKA, Krazy Bitch), Amber Masek, Susie Snavely and Ally Cirincione for allowing us to chase the checkers.
T-shirts will be available for purchase at the race in large and extra -large for $20 and $25 dollars, all proceeds will be donated to the Wounded Warrior Project to help those that have unselfishly sacrificed to protect all of our FREEDOMS. Bloodshot 420 Race Team

 

[Sawtooth]

Wow, 420 and team this turned out awesome to say the least. Best of luck in the enduro would love to see another Schiada take top spot. On a side note if you do not sell out of the cool looking shirts please let those of us that cant make the event know how to go about purchasing, I would like to buy a couple XL's. Good luck, have fun and be safe!

 

[Terminal Velocity]

Looking good. Found your mascot too, I'm sure TBI could contribute.

 

[420HOA]

New billet V-drive in :thumbsup
New seat getting mounted
HUGE THANK YOU ! STEVEO :thumbsup

 

[steveo143]

Looks great Glenn!! I sure am glad it fit with the new midplate. Big thanks to Brian 'WSUWRHR', we spent 41/2 hrs. Sat. writing a new midplate program to fit the 21"' Schiada and it's screwed up mold and the offset stringers. I am 68 yrs. old and still learn something new everyday!

 

[Racey]

Looks great Glenn!! I sure am glad it fit with the new midplate. Big thanks to Brian 'WSUWRHR', we spent 41/2 hrs. Sat. writing a new midplate program to fit the 21"' Schiada and it's screwed up mold and the offset stringers. I am 68 yrs. old and still learn something new everyday!

As I'm sure you know they all are always different, even if you rig 2 boats side by side that come out of the mold one after the other, doesn't matter what make of boat it is, the v-drive plates will never fit boat to boat, the struts are never 'identical' as they are welded and have their own exact angle, then they never get mounted identically boat to boat after the marine tex dries, a 1/10 of a degree or less up or down, right or left is huge. The fit and alignment of the v-drive to the strut is so critical it is still one of the things that cannot be done by machining, it has to be hand fit, the alignment is down to the the last thousandth of inch when done properly. We use a honed coupler doing our rigging, and it's basically a game of spin and tap until the shafts are so perfectly aligned that the coupler can spin freely on both. Then Drill all the stringer holes and plate holes to exact size for the fasteners so that they literally have to be tapped through with a mallet.

I always base my strut alignment on the keel line, even though the keel not perfectly centered on the boat in relation to the sides/chine, it doesn't matter, the keel is the only thing in the water after 85-90 basically, so that becomes the center for all intents and purposes.

 

[steveo143]

Racey, all good points and I am well aware of how to mount a v-drive in a boat. The issue is I had 2 CNC programs to cut midplates, 1 for my raised water jacket billet cases and 1 for standard Casale cases. My stock is 261/2" wide and 121/2" tall to start and most boats stringers are 26" or less. My finished plates are 26" x 12" with the cutout centered. Won't work in a Schiada 21 RC because the cutout needs to be offsett to the drivers' side about 1/2", therefor requiring a new program to offset the center cutout and the top and bottom angles sloping to the stringers. The mold is jacked up. The floors on each side are not the same height or for that matter the corners at the transom are different heights. They sure do haul ass though!!!!!!

 

[Racey]

Racey, all good points and I am well aware of how to mount a v-drive in a boat. The issue is I had 2 CNC programs to cut midplates, 1 for my raised water jacket billet cases and 1 for standard Casale cases. My stock is 261/2" wide and 121/2" tall to start and most boats stringers are 26" or less. My finished plates are 26" x 12" with the cutout centered. Won't work in a Schiada 21 RC because the cutout needs to be offsett to the drivers' side about 1/2", therefor requiring a new program to offset the center cutout and the top and bottom angles sloping to the stringers. The mold is jacked up. The floors on each side are not the same height or for that matter the corners at the transom are different heights. They sure do haul ass though!!!!!!

It was more directed to anyone coming across the thread, but yeah, they are all off by a ways. the only part of my program that get's re-used is the v-drive pattern, i don't do runs of v-drive plates for the exact reasons you mention, but i cut my own on the waterjet, not exactly economical when you have to have the machine shop do 1 at a time. :thumbsup.

 

[steveo143]

Wish I had a waterjet! I am doing a run of 30 midplates now including some for the 21 Schiada. Will be starting the next run of Billet v-drives in November.

 

[FrznJim]

These 48 gears will soon be replaced by a billet case and 60 gears

Hey Glenn,

Could you explain the thought process in going more gear (60) rather than going to a prop with more pitch (like 17 rather than the 15 you referenced earlier)?

Billet v-drive looks awesome.

 

[025]

Wish I had a waterjet! I am doing a run of 30 midplates now including some for the 21 Schiada. Will be starting the next run of Billet v-drives in November.

Laser innovations has a water jet. They are around the corner from your house.

 

[steveo143]

Hey Glenn,

Could you explain the thought process in going more gear (60) rather than going to a prop with more pitch (like 17 rather than the 15 you referenced earlier)?

Billet v-drive looks awesome.

I left an 111/2 x 17 two blade for them to try.

 

[Racey]

Hey Glenn,

Could you explain the thought process in going more gear (60) rather than going to a prop with more pitch (like 17 rather than the 15 you referenced earlier)?

Billet v-drive looks awesome.

The sorta rule of thumb is going beyond a 16 pitch in a v-drive prop spinning big rpm is like playing with fire.... they start becoming way more prone to pitching blades beyond 16, maybe with the better designed CNC props that you can get today for the 4-5k dollar range you might be able to get away with a 17, but 15's and good 16's are safe bets, go much bigger and you are going to be rolling the dice on spending big money fixing broken blade, shaft, strut, not to mention your health.

 

[SFV2RVR]

The sorta rule of thumb is going beyond a 16 pitch in a v-drive prop spinning big rpm is like playing with fire.... they start becoming way more prone to pitching blades beyond 16, maybe with the better designed CNC props that you can get today for the 4-5k dollar range you might be able to get away with a 17, but 15's and good 16's are safe bets, go much bigger and you are going to be rolling the dice on spending big money fixing broken blade, shaft, strut, not to mention your health.

Yep. The 11 x 16 house prop from Grose will run you about $2800 these days, but pretty much guarantee that you won't throw an ear!

 

[Froggystyle]

We were running a Braksma 11.5 x 15 2 blade at 5500 -6000 rpm 7 lbs boost at 1/2 throttle at 100 - 103 mph, more throttle went no faster just got on the rev limiter at 6000. It also wicked the turbos up so fast the boat litteraly leaps out of the water from 75 - 90 mph.
I think somewhere around 57-63 gears should drop my rpm's and apply the power a little more manageable thru the power band.

This sounds familiar... This describes my boat to a tee.

 

[420HOA]

Hey Glenn,

Could you explain the thought process in going more gear (60) rather than going to a prop with more pitch (like 17 rather than the 15 you referenced earlier)?

Billet v-drive looks awesome.

Jim, I'll tell ya on Monday if the bigger gear was the right move :thumbsup

 

[parker ed]

Well how'd testing go?

 

[RiverDave]

Well how'd testing go?

I will have a "teaser" vid up today, the long story short the boat hauls ass!!

RD

 

[parker ed]

I will have a "teaser" vid up in two weeks, the long story short the boat hauls ass!!

RD

:thumbsup

 

[Roaddogg 4040]

Most prop guru's don't recommend going much over 16" pitch...

Steve

 

[parker ed]

I will have a "teaser" vid up today, the long story short the boat hauls ass!!

RD

Did you mount some go pro's on it for the test laps?

 

[420HOA]

Well how'd testing go?

So, so, couple of bugs to work out before the race.
Dave should have a Go Pro vid up within :twoweeks

 

[parker ed]

Bump

for some test video.

 

[420HOA]

Good job on the vid, Dave, I owe you a cold one, in glass a bottle of course

 

[420HOA]

Ouch !
That had to hurt

 

[GET SOME]

Ouch !
That had to hurt

Wtf??

 

[420HOA]

Wtf??

Thats what I said !

 

[Froggystyle]

Thats what I said !

I had the same thing happen. Mine was a water leak where the gasket was too thin where I trimmed it to clear the big gears and it displaced the oil...

Have fun cleaning that red stuff from Stevo up. Still stains on my interior.

 

[RACER J]

Ouch !
That had to hurt

That sucks!!
Ya know a jet boa..... Awe never mind!!
I'm sure you guys have it all under control. See ya soon!! Hopefully.

 

[420HOA]

That sucks!!
Ya know a jet boa..... Awe never mind!!
I'm sure you guys have it all under control. See ya soon!! Hopefully.

Bring your air matress

 

[RACER J]

Bring your air matress

Air mattress....Noted!! :thumbsup:thumbsup

 

[420HOA]

10 days to go

 

[Hammer]

10 days to go

lol 10 days ?

 

[RiverDave]

lol 10 days ?

10 days and it's qualifying day!

RD

 

[Hammer]

10 days and it's qualifying day!

RD

Uh , it's the weekend of the 26th ? Nevermind, I just looked online, I thought it was THIS weekend, I won't be there

 

[420HOA]

10 days and it's qualifying day!

RD

10 days till Race Day :thumbsup