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Here in Canyon Lake 98% of the population is conservative and pro-gun....we already have a wall around the whole city with only 3 access points to drive in....if we can band together we can hold this place down for a while...
 

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Cash is worthless.. bullets count both for trading and leverage. Lol

Maybe you should define the SHTT scenario here.. how bad how quick? Because I’m envisioning black out / panic / chaos.. riots and everything going to shit in a matter of hours.


Eureka has no power except for a few shops on generators. My wife said people are walking around like zombies. No idea what to do etc,,, She had to go into work, but that was short lived and she just got back home.
 

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I think the fear would be all of Los Angles hitting Vegas, Phoenix, and surrounding areas. Havasu couldn’t handle a Desert Storm level of people without prep.

i really don’t understand the rationale there..

Let’s say six real motivated guys decide nobody is coming into this town and they post up north and south..

After they take out the first three or four cars traffic stops. After they take out the first few people they are all gonna be going the other direction. Pretty quick there’s nothing in or out of this town for awhile..

My interest would be in leaving before someone starts that bullshit.
 

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I just don’t see how ya beat the crowds.. and then you have the 10 freeway which is gonna be gridlocked and max max.. lol.

One panic car accident and that artery is clogged.. then ya got the banditos coming in hot.. etc.

Better off staying at home and shooting everything in a 100 yards. Leave the bodies as a warning and then steal all the neighbors supplies.

I just don’t see it, California to AZ

I question if I will be able to make it out of Havasu to make it an hour or two to my spot.

RD

RZR and some extra gas. You’ll make it anywhere
 

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i really don’t understand the rationale there..

Let’s say six real motivated guys decide nobody is coming into this town and they post up north and south..

After they take out the first three or four cars traffic stops. After they take out the first few people they are all gonna be going the other direction. Pretty quick there’s nothing in or out of this town for awhile..

My interest would be in leaving before someone starts that bullshit.
and I think that’s the false sense of security with havasu. You think AR10s don’t travel from CA as well?

What if you worked your way through the desert/ havasu heights or the south side of the 40?

Also are they checking for friend or fo? Or do the 95 security just kill everyone?
 

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and I think that’s the false sense of security with havasu. You think AR10s don’t travel from CA as well?

What if you worked your way through the desert/ havasu heights or the south side of the 40?

Also are they checking for friend or fo? Or do the 95 security just kill everyone?

Like I said that ain’t my plan, my plan is leaving. Lol
 

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and I think that’s the false sense of security with havasu. You think AR10s don’t travel from CA as well?

What if you worked your way through the desert/ havasu heights or the south side of the 40?

Also are they checking for friend or fo? Or do the 95 security just kill everyone?

I dunno.. my plan is to make it to the spot and from there anyone that comes to said spot is a threat lol
 

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I dunno.. my plan is to make it to the spot and from there anyone that comes to said spot is a threat lol
Truthfully we’d probably go to the central CA farm land.

I think your perspective is a good one to share. I’m coming towards you, so how do you take care of your family?
 

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I dunno.. my plan is to make it to the spot and from there anyone that comes to said spot is a threat lol

I'm already at that spot and can see whats on the road long before anyone could get near me. Easy resource acquisitions

I used to be considered a tin foil hat wearing crazy guy,,,,, 🤣
 

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Truthfully we’d probably go to the central CA farm land.

I think your perspective is a good one to share. I’m coming towards you, so how do you take care of your family?

Well how bad is the scene? Is it mad max style?

If so I don’t think you’d have anything I’d want, but I suppose I’d have somethings you’d want.. so in that scenario you shoot the alpha first, and any other potential threats.. take what they were planning on trading with, and enslave the women and children.

No seriously…. I’m joking. Or am I? 🤨
 

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Well how bad is the scene? Is it mad max style?

If so I don’t think you’d have anything I’d want, but I suppose I’d have somethings you’d want.. so in that scenario you shoot the alpha first, and any other potential threats.. take what they were planning on trading with, and enslave the women and children.

No seriously…. I’m joking. Or am I? 🤨
Lol my point of the thread was to talk about good ideas for families in the event of a disaster.

Now I need to throw the AR on the dash 🤣
 

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After last nights earthquake almost every open business in town is cash only. Only gas stations that are open are card locks and the casinos. Costco may be on a generator? Grocery stores that are open have lines out the doors.
After the Northridge EQ there were lines and food/bottled water shortages in the SFV. Five miles away on open freeways it was business as usual.
 
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Well how bad is the scene? Is it mad max style?

If so I don’t think you’d have anything I’d want, but I suppose I’d have somethings you’d want.. so in that scenario you shoot the alpha first, and any other potential threats.. take what they were planning on trading with, and enslave the women and children.

No seriously…. I’m joking. Or am I? 🤨

Remind me again about the holiday spirit? 🤣
 

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After the Northridge EQ there was lines and food/bottled water shortages in the SFV. Five miles away on open freeways it was business as usual.

This. Even in a big quake, the damage is pretty localized. You won’t need to have to go far due to a quake.
 

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This. Even in a big quake, the damage is pretty localized. You won’t need to have to go far due to a quake.
Unless it’s the big one. Like the Alaskan one. That’ll shake out all of LA
 

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I will say if I owned a yacht goodbye!!!!

I would be waiting at yore dock with a rocket launcher and pull the yacht keys off your cold dead body.

And then goodbye.

Or I’d meet you there with a pallet of beer and a high five.
 
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In terms of communication, in addition to VHF, CB and standard wakies, I take the hit and keep a SAT account active with a hot spot, extra batteries and an ancillary antenna. It’s expensive but, I’ve got kids and other family members living out of state and assigned as the point of contact if there is an in state loss of comm. Could end up being the only way to reach out.

I actually used it when cell and phone went out last year due to fire in my area.

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You guys need to refine exactly what you are all talking about.

Local disasters on a city/county(s) wide scale are one thing, localized shortages etc.

If we are talking major events, like a giant solar flare that EMP's the entire planet and shuts down all the infrastructure, that's an entirely different scenario.

In 3 days without septic/water massive casualties start, huge numbers die from simple exposure (it's a major killer) and lack of any so called survival or outdoor skills/knowledge.

In 7 days the death toll is in the millions. In 30 days, billions.

There will be a extremely tiny percentage who have planned/prepped for this scenario, and they have a decent chance of survival. Their friends and family, depending on how quickly they can adapt and learn, have a marginal chance to survive.

In almost all estimations of a global shutdown, 98% of the human population dies.
 

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You guys need to refine exactly what you are all talking about.

Local disasters on a city/county(s) wide scale are one thing, localized shortages etc.

If we are talking major events, like a giant solar flare that EMP's the entire planet and shuts down all the infrastructure, that's an entirely different scenario.

In 3 days without septic/water massive casualties start, huge numbers die from simple exposure (it's a major killer) and lack of any so called survival or outdoor skills/knowledge.

In 7 days the death toll is in the millions. In 30 days, billions.

There will be a extremely tiny percentage who have planned/prepped for this scenario, and they have a decent chance of survival. Their friends and family, depending on how quickly they can adapt and learn, have a marginal chance to survive.

In almost all estimations of a global shutdown, 98% of the human population dies.

All of RDP membership has cash in hand and is prepared to kill anyone that stands in their way…
 

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Plan is to head to Havasu as a meeting point. If you have a whole town/state/region evacuating, it will take days to get there, if at all. Better hope the car has gas too.

Many variables. Cell would be spotty, gas would be gone, etc.

I have 100 day supply of food.
There are 2 ways into and out of havasu. They will be blocked
 

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Or watched WAY too many fucking movies!!!

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Lol so the only experience I have was the woosley fires.

Long story short… fire came over the ridge I call my brother at usc (he’s hammered, get him an Uber lol) we get to moms and load the trucks. Leave around 2-4am, and head back to in laws. And of course fire is now coming over the hill again. Do one more load but we fought the fire and saved a few homes.


2 days after I take my mom and wife back to my moms to see if the home is still standing. On the way we crossed a guys fire hose and apparently the threads were crossed/miss sized. Well the hose let go. I make a u turn and this guy comes to the window in a SXS (farm type) and is threatening to shoot us. At this point I have my gun at the ready. I’m trying to calm the guy down best I can, finally he agrees to let me help him.

The fear in his eyes will be something I’ll never forget. Only time that I pointed a gun (behind the truck door) in my life at a person. I got out of the truck and showed him the gun before I holstered it.

It ended up being fine but it showed me how fast you go from 0 to 100mph.
 

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Nobody really takes this planet killer stuff seriously.

After all, what are the chances on a galactic scale? Pretty fucking infentismal.

Full on mad max scenario? I am robbing and stealing my way to a select spot with a spring, lots of local game and a sub-tropic belt where I can grow veggies mostly year round. Bringing with me as much ammo as I can carry, as much powder and bullets for my selected weapons as I can fit in whatever rig, and a few odds and ends.

I have a few sets of modern "thermals" and relevant survival wool/layers/shells(water/windproof) to stave off the elements. A few sets of good fitting boots for winter/summer.

All in all, it's seriously about a half a pickup bed full of gear, for just me once you fit in a few choice pieces to cook with, a good tent and a back-up.....

I probably could condense it to a full frame pack and hoof it, but I would be sorely lacking in any sort of creature comforts...(food spices/sugar/flour...!)
 

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You guys need to refine exactly what you are all talking about.

Local disasters on a city/county(s) wide scale are one thing, localized shortages etc.

If we are talking major events, like a giant solar flare that EMP's the entire planet and shuts down all the infrastructure, that's an entirely different scenario.

In 3 days without septic/water massive casualties start, huge numbers die from simple exposure (it's a major killer) and lack of any so called survival or outdoor skills/knowledge.

In 7 days the death toll is in the millions. In 30 days, billions.

There will be a extremely tiny percentage who have planned/prepped for this scenario, and they have a decent chance of survival. Their friends and family, depending on how quickly they can adapt and learn, have a marginal chance to survive.

In almost all estimations of a global shutdown, 98% of the human population dies.
I was shooting for earthquake/fire. End of the world is another thread
 

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Lol so the only experience I have was the woosley fires.

Long story short… fire came over the ridge I call my brother at usc (he’s hammered, get him an Uber lol) we get to moms and load the trucks. Leave around 2-4am, and head back to in laws. And of course fire is now coming over the hill again. Do one more load but we fought the fire and saved a few homes.


2 days after I take my mom and wife back to my moms to see if the home is still standing. On the way we crossed a guys fire hose and apparently the threads were crossed/miss sized. Well the hose let go. I make a u turn and this guy comes to the window in a SXS (farm type) and is threatening to shoot us. At this point I have my gun at the ready. I’m trying to calm the guy down best I can, finally he agrees to let me help him.

The fear in his eyes will be something I’ll never forget. Only time that I pointed a gun (behind the truck door) in my life at a person. I got out of the truck and showed him the gun before I holstered it.

It ended up being fine but it showed me how fast you go from 0 to 100mph.

Don't ever hide behind a truck/car door, it gives you a false sense of security, it's honestly like tissue paper to a bullet...even a .22
 

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Don't ever hide behind a truck/car door, it gives you a false sense of security, it's honestly like tissue paper to a bullet...even a .22
I meant I kept a 45 low behind the door. Now that I’m a little older I’d just point it. Honestly I was embarrassed to even be doing it. You really don’t know what you’ll do until you’re in the moment.
 

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I meant I kept a 45 low behind the door. Now that I’m a little older I’d just point it. Honestly I was embarrassed to even be doing it. You really don’t know what you’ll do until you’re in the moment.

Truth right there.

You cannot replace a real life drawn firearms scenario. I remember every single one, like crystal clear.

Fucks with you a bit, like what if you had done this, or that, or bla bla....have to shut your brain off to deal with it.
 

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Truth right there.

You cannot replace a real life drawn firearms scenario. I remember every single one, like crystal clear.

Fucks with you a bit, like what if you had done this, or that, or bla bla....have to shut your brain off to deal with it.
If I never have to do it again I’ll be thankful.

What no one talks about is the adrenaline and emotions that come with it. It ain’t the movies
 

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Didn’t we experience an end of world sequence of events just a couple of years ago?

Im going to Costco to load up on toilet paper.
I think that showed us what people will do. Imagine if it was an active emergency
 

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I was shooting for earthquake/fire. End of the world is another thread

Earth quake and fire I’m sitting right where I’m at.. all of rdp is welcome to join me. We won’t run out of food I can promise. Lol

No need to even get the guns out for that.

Take something different though.. not world ending like a solar flare but more down to earth.. call it government shut down, or insurrection where our entire system goes anarchy for a bit..

In that case I’m gone to our exit plan, and depending on how fast things are deteriorating is going to determine the course of action.

RD
 

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RZR is too big of a target. If you want to make tracks with little ability to catch you then I have two words for everyone "dirt bike"!
Agreed but I cant put a family on one bike lol.
 

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Ive thought about this a lot and I think to be as successful as possible to get out of a metropolitan area your best chances are on a dirt bike. Ive thought about the Santa Ana River as a possibly escape route but haven't looked at it closely to see if its possible to follow it out of OC. Then have one of those treker van deals parked in the high desert somewhere where you can be mobile with shelter. If you have a house somewhere in the desert or mountains you could head there but have the option to be mobile if needed. I highly doubt the river cities would be shut down to in/out traffic if there was a natural disaster in LA/Orange County, IE or SD County. just my opinion of course.
 
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