Something tells me that you've got your program all figured out just fine. You've never struck me as an uncertain man.The only beef I got with you is! Where's my invite?
Got me some strong roots!
This is why I’m glad I learned to sail. So many boats in San Diego to choose from and easy half of the sail boats are un locked or pad locked and don’t need keys to start.
I read many years ago something that said almost exactly the same things. It's stuck with me. Home field advantage is a serious thing.
You know frightens me the most? The mothers that raise those kids. And, if you know those kids, you know they don't venture too far from mom for more than a few months at a time.
This is the exact scenario where a dirt bike may the only option if/when you wanted to leave. Or you walk out, which isn’t impossible if you’re in shape.
Have to laugh, I do fear their mom more than the boys! She's short and a little rotund, but keeps that homestead in check.
I travel to Asia occasionally and this picture is very much still a reality today. Lol
A well-founded warning, I’m sure. As I read the comments about leaving homes, I thought many would learn exactly what you’ve described. In such circumstances, many would take the approach of shoot first and ask questions later. Doing otherwise would put themselves and family at risk.
), with plenty of defensive tools, canned and dry food for at least a month, and dehydrated food for another month. Water may be our biggest concern, though we could at least set up a rain collection system very easily (which wouldn’t be of much use in the summer around here…I guess I’d better add to my bottled stock.). Secondarily, heat may be an issue in the cooler months, as fueling generators for more than a week may become a problem if either infrastructure is damaged or it becomes unsafe to leave home. I have access to weapons if they aren’t rusted at the bottom of the lake, many magazines for quick reloading, and common repair parts if needed. I also have plenty of ammo for defense or trading, as well as cash and silver on-hand. And if it doesn’t work out, Fuck it, we’re getting old anyway and it’s been a good ride. 
My plan, as I’ve told them, is to take backroads to their home, on foot, well armed, and escort them back here. If they’re not there, they know to attempt to reach my home. In the meantime, it would be up to my wife to defend against potential looters at our home. If anybody does make it inside, our Ridgeback is 70 lbs and headed to 90, is protective by nature, and will soon be going through protection training with the guy who trains dogs for our local sheriff’s department, so they better shoot that pup quickly or they’re gonna be hurting. Though it might be difficult to leave my wife alone, she is quite capable, and I’m sure would not hesitate to do what is necessary. 
That is pretty much my plan besides strapping on my Bug Out Bag. I have a desert tank on my Dual Sport, but I would still have to find at least an extra 3 gallons along the way to make it to our place in Havasu. It would be hard to carry that much extra gasoline.
Good point. We’re fortunate that it’d be difficult for anyone to approach our home from the rear, as the blackberry bushes at the rear of our neighborhood are nearly impassable, with no path through them. They’d have to be REALLY motivated to try that, would be worn out by the time they made it through, and would make far too much noise to go unnoticed as they hacked away at the vines. As to the number of people, I think you made a math error…3x4=12. With 3 sides to protect, it’d be 9 people. We have 11 homes, and have a few good neighbors outside the fence who we’d invite in, provided they can bring supplies and are willing to deal with intruders. If they don’t match those requirements,I guess we’d have to consider them to be among the horde.
I don’t think we would by any means. But if So Cal is banged up for a few weeks we’d like to use our AZ home.
How do the bodies of dead people that tried to take a position factor into your math? How many people, armed or unarmed, that are scavenging for supplies, do you think would try to take a position with multiple bodies scattered around it of people that had the same idea and failed? I do not consider myself an expert on defensive strategy or site security by any means. But I have learned one or two things in my life and I would argue that a position, such as a home or other small fortification could be held with a LOT less than 24 people. Just my .02 but 4-5 to hold a residence would be doable. Probably not even that many if the mob attacking your position was unorganized, untrained, poorly armed and not thinking clearly. Just throwing it out there for conversation.
The militia already has all the bridges wired.
. I had assumed total anarchy when you posed the thread? 
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C'mon you aren't knew here. The only thing we stack faster than bodies around here are soapboxes.
When they should be watching the Walking Dead series.
And “side by side vouchers”
. Merry Christmas LOF!
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I'd hazard to say those that have stocked food, started elsewhere in their preps first. Most people start with defending the castle, their possessions of monetary value and their families. Especially people my age, in their 40's. Most have never been truly hungry, and as a society we've had well stocked stores to pickup food. Couple days to a week with no restock, no problem.
Rd would be 30 pack deep in either scenarioYou didn’t layout the scenario.. in my head we are already at our bug out place.. you are standing at the gates armed, and I’m zeroing in on a near empty propane tank that’s in a box next to the side of the entrance..
If your talking about an earth quake, it would be open arms and welcome to the neighborhood..
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Cf. South African farm attacks:
South African farm attacks - Wikipedia
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I’m heading to Dave’s warehouse first, loading up, then going to my secret spot.
Exactly. A 30 pack is rationing !
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Carry a jiggler. Much lighter than 3 gallons of fuel.
