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@Taboma , was trying to figure out how I got pulled into this one. My view of this is pretty simple. There are lots of places others have been that I have not, here on earth. Man has wanted to reach for the stars since the beginning. During the time the quest for the moon was happening, my grandfather was working for either Aerojet or Rocketdyne. My brother has the picture that was on the mantle, grandpa in a suit with Von Braun.

I may doubt a lot of what the government says, but I don't ever doubt mankind's dedication to things. The problem we have is science is always supported if it can help control. Everything they learned then, was sadly put into missiles. Seeing what private groups do now is also awe-inspiring.
I think if you were to look a we bit harder, you'd find many beneficial things we take for granted today, were born from the harsh and unique requirements of the 60's race for space. I mean besides giving Tang a boost in sales thanks to it's trip to the moon. ;)
 

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I think if you were to look a we bit harder, you'd find many beneficial things we take for granted today, were born from the harsh and unique requirements of the 60's race for space. I mean besides giving Tang a boost in sales thanks to it's trip to the moon. ;)
Oh no, it's a given. The propulsion advancements were the "stars", but communications, computing, insulation and manufacturing were just some of the many things that were driven to new levels in that time. With most technological advancements currently, it seems that funding for research is always a bit easier to come by if the advancements can help a military investor.
 

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Did you know, on the internet, it is impossible to prove who you are to everyone. Someone is going to call you a liar. Same with the Apollo missions. It's the way it works. I had dinner with Neil Armstrong many years ago. The passion in his voice as he told stories of the mission, he was the first man to walk on the moon. He also talked about the first time someone ask, did you really? He understood why. It still made him agree from day one because it was him, the actual person. I also had dinner with Jim Lovell from Apollo 13. It was pure dedication of mission control that they made it back alive. That night went past midnight and I swear it felt like 10 minutes. They were out in space and had an explosion. Not like you could get out and take a look. It was all guess work with a few instruments. Both were charity dinners and we got to ask questions and visit. Nothing was preplanned, just a sit down. Both men make you proud to be an American.
Armstrong got the deserved publicity, but I think America's greatest astronaut is Jim Lovell. That's not just because of Apollo 13. He was on more pioneering flights than any of his contemporaries, and his leadership in space travel is unmatched IMO.
 

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Armstrong got the deserved publicity, but I think America's greatest astronaut is Jim Lovell. That's not just because of Apollo 13. He was on more pioneering flights than any of his contemporaries, and his leadership in space travel is unmatched IMO.
I agree. Jim talked for 4hrs that night and there were 10 of us asking questions. He knew every square inch of that flight and what it did. He kept the crew together and the feed back to mission control. He told the story and had a copy of the flight recording when they had to make a burn for a coarse correction as they approached earth. Remember they were in space, in zero gravity trying stay aligned as the ship tried to tumble. No sleep and under that pressure. The true meaning of live or die. Later in life at a trap meet I met a man who's claim to fame was he polished the main engine valve seat on the lunar module. They had to make 10 valves that would fire on/off 10 times each without a failure before they could make the one that went to space. He made a lot of valves before he could do it as close to perfect as possible. The rest is history. We as people in America came together and made this happen. Best of all we had real men that said, hold my beer and you did and kept it cold out of respect.
 

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Have you ever looked at declassiled docs? You can find it everywhere if you do. Russia, Us army, Nasa, cia ect

US Army
Propagation of Electromagnetic Fields Over Flat Earth

straight from Nasa web site.
Calculation of Wind Compensation for Launching of Unguided Rockets
Read page 7

I can find others but will have to do later.
You can't be F*cking serious :oops: 🀯 Now I know you're just pulling a patented Grad's fishing expedition --- Get outta here πŸ‘‡

Can you read English ???πŸ˜–
Flat Earth as in Flat Terrain and considerations for horizontal vs. vertical dipole antennas. This as opposed to mountainous terrain, since microwaves can't penetrate mountainous terrain and would require repeaters. πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

Although in this case we're dealing with HpM, Microwave Electromagnetic Energy weaponry, to take out computers and microprocessors.

Now your silly bullshit has forced me to break my damned New Years resolution on F*cking Day # 2. πŸ–•

Opps, I meant βœŒοΈπŸ˜‰

OK, I'm going to restore my commitment not to engage with you goofy shits anymore --- don't make me break my resolution for the 2nd time or else. πŸ‘Ώ
Listen, here's a tip --- PM rmarion, he'll believe anything you post, especially if it' in a Meme or signed Q.
 
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Have you ever looked at declassiled docs? You can find it everywhere if you do. Russia, Us army, Nasa, cia ect

US Army
Propagation of Electromagnetic Fields Over Flat Earth

straight from Nasa web site.
Calculation of Wind Compensation for Launching of Unguided Rockets
Read page 7

I can find others but will have to do later.

Go for it. I'm oh so interested! 😁

Oh BTW...

Nice truck you got there πŸ‘πŸΌ

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So Nasa the epitome of rocket since with a budget of 50 million tax dollars per day dose its calculations based on a "flat non rotating earth"?
There words!
 

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So Nasa the epitome of rocket since with a budget of 50 million tax dollars per day dose its calculations based on a "flat non rotating earth"?
There words!
Oh Curse You, you poor, poor, ignorant slut (;)) ---- not even 24 hours and you've caused me to break my New Years resolution for the 2nd F*cking time. 🀬

Do you read anything you post before resort to your 2nd grader trickery by removing choice tid-bits of content from their context and think we're not going to catch it ???

It's obvious you didn't, yet again, just like you didn't read the US Army research paper, else you'd have understood "Flat Earth" was a term to differentiate it from say "Mountainous Earth" or "Flat Water", which would of course alter the propagation parameters.

Like I'm going to not so kindly point out below --- It's a damned assumption, it's a basis of comparison, because in order to conduct tests for the HpM Antenna or how wind affects a Shotput Rocket, you need defined simulation ASSUMPTIONS, they're nothing more than a fixed standard of comparison.

In this NASA paper, it's a discussion for a different way of Calculating Wind Compensation for an UNGUIDED rocket and although applicable to other unguided rockets, this paper is discussing characteristics particular to the Shotput Rocket. A two stage solid propellant rocket for testing a 100' diameter balloon Satellite.

The part you not so deftly slipped from the context, is in regards to the Trajectory SIMULATION used to conduct the Wind Compensation Calculations.
It's an assumption used as a BASIS OF COMPARISON --- if it were an actual launch calculation, then the Earth's rotational influence would be INCLUDED as applicable in the Wind Compensation Calculations and the Rockets UNGUIDED steering fins adjusted accordingly.

Also by the way, before I place you back on my mental ignore list (Never ignore anybody using the official RDP ignore feature) and attempt by 3rd try to maintain my two previously failed attempts at my New Years resolution ---- Your Cold Moon test fails to adhere to the 2nd law of Thermodynamics, in other words you CAN'T MAKE COLD, you can only remove heat.
So next time you attempt to fool morons using your hand held IR Thermometer, use an FLIR Thermal Camera and you'll achieve far more reliable results, although Warning --- They'll destroy any validity of your contrived test results.


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Oh, before I go --- here's the answer to your post above, damn man, you are decades behind the Flat Earthers before you.

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Bye now 😁✌️
 

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2 Thessalonians 2:11-12

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11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:​

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
 

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2 Thessalonians 2:11-12​

King James Version​

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:​

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
You're proof positive that # 11, is very, very true. ✌️

So you feel that by spreading these obvious delusions you're doing God's work ?
The Messenger ????
You really should PM rmarion, he's on a similar holy quest it would seem, and you might consider teaming up, hitting the road and playing the whole circuit.

OK, bye again and this time I really mean it --- 🀞
 

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It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. – Aristotle


I dont blame anyone for thinking it a globe, maybe the earth is round, i used to think so. I have found way to many lies from the cheif deceiver /destroyer nasa ,that i toss out all bs they try to pedal. John 10:10 The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.

Once i relized the Bible is a flat earth book from cover to cover i did my own reserch, testing messuring and observations "Science" i could see how it could go either way. Prov 9:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding. Now some would say thats becasue they used to belive in flat earth. Which is true in fact if you said globe you would be chastised as i am here. It was the Catholic church that pushed the helocentric model. same one thats now ok with gay marriage. Pope Francis authorizes blessings for same-sex couples As you can see they are here to lead you astray.

If you are a believer in a creator and the Bible is his word than you know that satan works for him and can only do what he allowed to do. That being said in all lies he spreds you can also see the truth. 2Tim 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. Knowing that satan controls all the kigdoms of the world see Luke 4:5-6, also a flat earth verse by the way. His objective is to destroy you. Which is why he uses Hebrew symbols and words in the things around you.

I dont have all the answers, but if you give me 50 Mill a day, i bet i could come up with some reallly good ones.
 

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You can't be F*cking serious :oops: 🀯 Now I know you're just pulling a patented Grad's fishing expedition --- Get outta here πŸ‘‡

Can you read English ???πŸ˜–
Flat Earth as in Flat Terrain and considerations for horizontal vs. vertical dipole antennas. This as opposed to mountainous terrain, since microwaves can't penetrate mountainous terrain and would require repeaters. πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

Although in this case we're dealing with HpM, Microwave Electromagnetic Energy weaponry, to take out computers and microprocessors.

Now your silly bullshit has forced me to break my damned New Years resolution on F*cking Day # 2. πŸ–•

Opps, I meant βœŒοΈπŸ˜‰

OK, I'm going to restore my commitment not to engage with you goofy shits anymore --- don't make me break my resolution for the 2nd time or else. πŸ‘Ώ
Listen, here's a tip --- PM rmarion, he'll believe anything you post, especially if it' in a Meme or signed Q.
At the least Taboma consider your content to these morons as giving yourself mental exercise every morning typing out your informed responses.
 

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Oh Curse You, you poor, poor, ignorant slut (;)) ---- not even 24 hours and you've caused me to break my New Years resolution for the 2nd F*cking time. 🀬

Do you read anything you post before resort to your 2nd grader trickery by removing choice tid-bits of content from their context and think we're not going to catch it ???

It's obvious you didn't, yet again, just like you didn't read the US Army research paper, else you'd have understood "Flat Earth" was a term to differentiate it from say "Mountainous Earth" or "Flat Water", which would of course alter the propagation parameters.

Like I'm going to not so kindly point out below --- It's a damned assumption, it's a basis of comparison, because in order to conduct tests for the HpM Antenna or how wind affects a Shotput Rocket, you need defined simulation ASSUMPTIONS, they're nothing more than a fixed standard of comparison.

In this NASA paper, it's a discussion for a different way of Calculating Wind Compensation for an UNGUIDED rocket and although applicable to other unguided rockets, this paper is discussing characteristics particular to the Shotput Rocket. A two stage solid propellant rocket for testing a 100' diameter balloon Satellite.

The part you not so deftly slipped from the context, is in regards to the Trajectory SIMULATION used to conduct the Wind Compensation Calculations.
It's an assumption used as a BASIS OF COMPARISON --- if it were an actual launch calculation, then the Earth's rotational influence would be INCLUDED as applicable in the Wind Compensation Calculations and the Rockets UNGUIDED steering fins adjusted accordingly.

Also by the way, before I place you back on my mental ignore list (Never ignore anybody using the official RDP ignore feature) and attempt by 3rd try to maintain my two previously failed attempts at my New Years resolution ---- Your Cold Moon test fails to adhere to the 2nd law of Thermodynamics, in other words you CAN'T MAKE COLD, you can only remove heat.
So next time you attempt to fool morons using your hand held IR Thermometer, use an FLIR Thermal Camera and you'll achieve far more reliable results, although Warning --- They'll destroy any validity of your contrived test results.


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Oh, before I go --- here's the answer to your post above, damn man, you are decades behind the Flat Earthers before you.

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Bye now 😁✌️
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At the least Taboma consider your content to these morons as giving yourself mental exercise every morning typing out your informed responses.
My endless yard work is made more plateable by thinking of it as my physical exercise program.

Oh yes sir, as we know us "Vintage" adults who've grown weary of in-person socializing, have excused ourselves from the daily rigors of being professionally employed, still require a healthy dose of mental stimulation to keep us from slipping into the abyss.

So yes again even more old wise one, you have correctly revealed my ulterior motivation for my time spent on RDP, both reading and participating.
In this way, I can properly defend all these hours spent that my hardworking, younger and damned shrewd missus thinks I'm just F*cking off. :oops:πŸ₯΄

With that stated, I've been forced to reconcile that entertainment value aside, based on the definition of insanity, there's a few threads running that have clearly reached that level.
The goal on RDP is not to make myself more stupid-er. 🀣;)
 

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Oh Curse You, you poor, poor, ignorant slut (;)) ---- not even 24 hours and you've caused me to break my New Years resolution for the 2nd F*cking time. 🀬


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The photo is not a mirage as you suggest. People have gotten on a boats and filmed it all the way across never lossing sight of it. We have all seen mirages's driving accros the desert. They disappear are you get closer they dont get larger. There are other photos of objects 200+ miles away.
 

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You're proof positive that # 11, is very, very true. ✌️

So you feel that by spreading these obvious delusions you're doing God's work ?
The Messenger ????
You really should PM rmarion, he's on a similar holy quest it would seem, and you might consider teaming up, hitting the road and playing the whole circuit.

OK, bye again and this time I really mean it --- 🀞
Being that when the Bible was writen they all belived in a flat earth. The deception comes at the end. Mathew 24:4 and 24:24 it is more provable that the ball and the heliocentric model is the delusion. If you knew you live in a terrarium you would want to know who put you there. You may also try to get out of it. Which was what the high alttude nuclear testing was about. Operation FishBowl Interesting name. They are trying to hide the creator from you. Same reson for billions of years and evoloution.

Now they arch the rockets flight path so they dont crash into the dome.
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Your going to say, it's because of the earth rotation. Yet they have film from 35k feet. its clearly not.
 
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Mr. Bent Props -- I'm going to respond to you, this one last time, not out of respect for your seriously flawed and utterly insane opinions on, well, everything, but simply as one human to another --- At least I think you are.

I don't really consider you an ignorant slut (Just ignorant, not the slut part), I won't however apologize because it was intended as a joke (Hence the wink emoji) I'd plagiarized from from a late 1960's Saturday Night Live commentary.
Since I'm not sure you have American Television on your planet, I won't bother to explain that further.

As much as I do not respect your opinions, nor you mine I'm sure, regardless, and as painful as it is for me to state this ---- I do respect your right to have them.

I participate in this RDP Forum for the purpose of entertainment and to keep my aging mind occupied and my fingers nimble.
It also reduces the urge to spend my days sitting here staring at porn and touching myself inappropriately (At least that's what I seem to recall my dear mother screaming at me).

Anyway, I've decided that punching myself in the face would be more pleasurable and leaps and bounds more meaningful, than engaging with you in any topic of conversation.

Goodbye and, ok, just Goodbye πŸ₯΄
 

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HELIOScentric system as in Helios the sun god or satan.
 

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It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. – Aristotle


I dont blame anyone for thinking it a globe, maybe the earth is round, i used to think so. I have found way to many lies from the cheif deceiver /destroyer nasa ,that i toss out all bs they try to pedal. John 10:10 The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.

Once i relized the Bible is a flat earth book from cover to cover i did my own reserch, testing messuring and observations "Science" i could see how it could go either way. Prov 9:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding. Now some would say thats becasue they used to belive in flat earth. Which is true in fact if you said globe you would be chastised as i am here. It was the Catholic church that pushed the helocentric model. same one thats now ok with gay marriage. Pope Francis authorizes blessings for same-sex couples As you can see they are here to lead you astray.

If you are a believer in a creator and the Bible is his word than you know that satan works for him and can only do what he allowed to do. That being said in all lies he spreds you can also see the truth. 2Tim 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. Knowing that satan controls all the kigdoms of the world see Luke 4:5-6, also a flat earth verse by the way. His objective is to destroy you. Which is why he uses Hebrew symbols and words in the things around you.

I dont have all the answers, but if you give me 50 Mill a day, i bet i could come up with some reallly good ones.

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Mr. Bent Props -- I'm going to respond to you, this one last time, not out of respect for your seriously flawed and utterly insane opinions on, well, everything, but simply as one human to another --- At least I think you are.

I don't really consider you an ignorant slut (Just ignorant, not the slut part), I won't however apologize because it was intended as a joke (Hence the wink emoji) I'd plagiarized from from a late 1960's Saturday Night Live commentary.
Since I'm not sure you have American Television on your planet, I won't bother to explain that further.

As much as I do not respect your opinions, nor you mine I'm sure, regardless, and as painful as it is for me to state this ---- I do respect your right to have them.

I participate in this RDP Forum for the purpose of entertainment and to keep my aging mind occupied and my fingers nimble.
It also reduces the urge to spend my days sitting here staring at porn and touching myself inappropriately (At least that's what I seem to recall my dear mother screaming at me).

Anyway, I've decided that punching myself in the face would be more pleasurable and leaps and bounds more meaningful, than engaging with you in any topic of conversation.

Goodbye and, ok, just Goodbye πŸ₯΄
Before you go, why are all full solar eclipse when the moon is at the new Phase? Why can't it be seen AT ALL before or after the solar eclipse? The whole thing can be seen at every other stage.
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It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. – Aristotle


I dont blame anyone for thinking it a globe, maybe the earth is round, i used to think so. I have found way to many lies from the cheif deceiver /destroyer nasa ,that i toss out all bs they try to pedal. John 10:10 The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.

Once i relized the Bible is a flat earth book from cover to cover i did my own reserch, testing messuring and observations "Science" i could see how it could go either way. Prov 9:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding. Now some would say thats becasue they used to belive in flat earth. Which is true in fact if you said globe you would be chastised as i am here. It was the Catholic church that pushed the helocentric model. same one thats now ok with gay marriage. Pope Francis authorizes blessings for same-sex couples As you can see they are here to lead you astray.

If you are a believer in a creator and the Bible is his word than you know that satan works for him and can only do what he allowed to do. That being said in all lies he spreds you can also see the truth. 2Tim 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. Knowing that satan controls all the kigdoms of the world see Luke 4:5-6, also a flat earth verse by the way. His objective is to destroy you. Which is why he uses Hebrew symbols and words in the things around you.

I dont have all the answers, but if you give me 50 Mill a day, i bet i could come up with some reallly good ones.

It's also interesting you quote Aristotle, since he is the one credited for discovering the earth IS actually round!


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Question: Lets just say the earth is flat. What would be the point of an ongoing lie that it is a sphere?
 

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A picture to prove it.
show us ONE PICTURE of the Earth from Apollo 11...

ONE pic...

give me your BEST SHOT!!!

someone else would not take the opportunity....

everyone says there's Thousands of these images...

present ONE!


tap, tap, tap, tap
 

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show us ONE PICTURE of the Earth from Apollo 11...

ONE pic...

give me your BEST SHOT!!!

someone else would not take the opportunity....

everyone says there's Thousands of these images...

present ONE!


tap, tap, tap, tap
 

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TB

Thanks for the image.... honestly
I like the discussion..

attached image of the moon....


now...

someone help me out here...

the earth is 4x the size of the moon???

how do you want to calculate this equation...
 

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Should we start a GoFundMe for @bentprops to do it?

I'll donate my Empty change jar. πŸ‘πŸΌ
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with all the $$$$$ collected... maybe we can purchase the vintage capsule... add it to a New rocket....

and take some pictures of Earth from space....

that capsule is space worthy..... back to the moon and back..LOL


Happy New Year Everyone
 

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show us ONE PICTURE of the Earth from Apollo 11...

ONE pic...

give me your BEST SHOT!!!

someone else would not take the opportunity....

everyone says there's Thousands of these images...

present ONE!


tap, tap, tap, tap
Here you go. It's in the article from NASA. Sorry, didn't know you actually wanted me to present a picture.


This image is pretty cool...


So... how about the picture of the edge of the earth?
 
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Here you go. It's in the article from NASA. Sorry, didn't know you actually wanted me to present a picture.


So... how about the picture of the edge of the earth?
TY

someone mentions thousands of Earth images taken on the Apollo 11 mission..

all I'm asking is ONE!!!!

I'll give RDPERS another chance.
 

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TY

someone mentions thousands of Earth images taken on the Apollo 11 mission..

all I'm asking is ONE!!!!

I'll give RDPERS another chance.
How about 1 for 1 from space. Unless you don't think we have any images of the flat earth from space?
 

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Here you go. It's in the article from NASA. Sorry, didn't know you actually wanted me to present a picture.


This image is pretty cool...


So... how about the picture of the edge of the earth?
TY

WOW.. im overwhelmed... thats a great pic taken from the moon during Apollo 11 mission....


My BAD...

and here I thought Earth was 4x the size of the moon....


they need to replace all history of Earth and state it 100 x the size of the moon.


I hope you had a Wonderful Christmas!!
 

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How about 1 for 1 from space. Unless you don't think we have any images of the flat earth from space?
TY

how can Flat Earthers have an image taken from space or lets say the moon..

when Nasa hasn't provided an image of the earth taken from the Moon???
 

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here I'll help the discussion..

NASA archives
 

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another image from our fine Government agency
 

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I'll play . . . .

Here's a pic I took of the sun setting behind Santa Barbara island. (Catalina Island is to the left)
I took the pic from up on the bluff (approx. 50 feet ) at Dog Beach in Huntington Beach.
The island from where I took the pic. is almost exactly 60 miles away.
I've been to Santa Barbara island at least a couple dozen times . . . I can tell you there's plenty more island below the horizon.

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I'll look for a pic. I took from the same spot of San Clemente Island . . .(more to the south).
A much bigger island, (and much taller) and almost the exact same distance away.
I've been to San Clemente island at least 50 times . . . and again, I can promise you there is much more island below the horizon.

And if you STILL don't believe me . . . well pick a day, a clear day . . . we can leave Huntington Harbor at sunrise and you tell me how much of the island you can see along the way. At it's peak, it's roughly 2000 in elevation . . . we'll stop for a pee/ coffee break 1/2 way at the east end of catalina . . . if you wish to continue, it's only another 30 miles . . . oh yeah . . . bring advil, it's a small skiff. 🀣
 
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