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This traveled thru space and returned to earth????
Think before you REPLY..

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this what the F object does not hatch a secured door latch. It will not travel in our atmosphere without completely disintegrating.

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Basement + Computer + Photoshop + Incel = Doctored images posted on Flat Earth conspiracy websites for consumption by the gullible and uninformed.
okay.

images removed/copied from Nasa websites..

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how large is the earth image viewed from the Moon??


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does 2 + 2 = 4

why is the image of earth taken from the Moon, not 4x larger than the image of the moon taken from earth?
 
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Someone still needs to tell me how time zones work on a flat Earth.
What can be missing here that can be explained logically ?
 

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I'm pretty sure we did land on the moon. However, what interests me is NASA had audio for the public and audio for just the astronauts and NASA. There was some banter that was not supposed to be released to the public insuinuating that something, someone, aliens, I don't know was watching the astronauts when they landed and when they were near the moon. I didn't even believe in aliens until recently and read through government released data, but there are some interesting things that have gone on behind closed doors.
 

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You really want to know? Read the text below, and use searches to further expand and clarify any part of the information you don't understand.

The transmission from the moon to Earth essentially uses same methods as terrestrial broadcast TV, but with frequencies in the 2.04 Gigahertz region, reduced bandwidth, and huge receiving antennas. The primary antennas used during the Apollo missions were 70 meter, or 230 feet, diameter steerable dishes located near Canberra, Australia, Madrid, Spain, and Barstow, California.

Each Deep Space Network site has one huge, 230-foot (70-meter) diameter antenna. The 70-meter antennas are the largest and most sensitive DSN antennas, capable of tracking a spacecraft traveling tens of billions of miles from Earth. Their locations around Earth, approximately 120 degrees apart, allow continuous reception of signals from spacecraft.


Channels 2-13 broadcast TV frequencies are between 54 and 216 MHz. The signal is transmitted to the television, and amplification circuits in the TV greatly increase the signal strength before routing it to the display architecture.

The explanation below succinctly describes the process by which terrestrial TV is broadcast. The area of reception in urban areas intentionally limits the number of VHF TV broadcast stations to three or four channels and the power levels are also reduced to preclude the possibility of interference with stations in adjacent markets, like Dallas-Fort Worth and Abilene, TX. They are about 175 miles apart. The concept is called ACRS, or Adjacent Channel Rejection Standards.

The television channel

When the band of frequencies in the picture signal is imposed on the high-frequency broadcast carrier current in the modulator of the transmitter, two bands of frequencies are produced above and below the carrier frequency. These are known as the upper and lower side bands, respectively. The side bands are identical in frequency content; that is, both carry the complete picture signal information. One of the side bands is therefore superfluous and, if transmitted, would wastefully consume space in the broadcast spectrum. Therefore, the major portion of one of the side bands (that occupying frequencies below the carrier) is removed by a wave filter, and the other side band (occupying frequencies above the carrier) is transmitted in full.

Complete removal of the superfluous side band is possible, but this would complicate receiver design; hence, a vestige of the unwanted side band is retained to serve the overall economy of the system. This technique is known as vestigial side-band transmission. It is universally employed in the television broadcasting systems of the world.

The television channel thus contains the picture carrier frequency, one complete picture side band (including the complete chrominance subcarrier), and a vestigial portion of the other picture side band. (See the diagram of spectrum allocations for compatible colour channels.) In addition, the carrier for the sound transmission and its side bands is included within the channel.

Since the band of frequencies needed to convey the sound is much narrower than that needed for the picture, it is feasible to include both sound-carrier side bands. To avoid mutual interference between sound and picture, the picture and sound side bands must not overlap. Moreover, some space must be allowed at the edge of the channel to avoid interference with the transmissions of stations occupying adjacent channels. These requirements are met in the colour television channels of the NTSC, PAL, and SECAM systems shown in the figure.

Each channel in the NTSC system contains the following bands: 4.2 megahertz for the fully transmitted picture side band, 1.25 megahertz for the vestige of the other picture side band, 0.2 megahertz for the sound carrier and its two side bands, and the remaining 0.15 megahertz to guard against overlap between channels. The chrominance subcarrier is included within the fully transmitted picture side band.

The standard broadcast television channels of the United States are assigned 6 megahertz each in the following segments of the spectrum: VHF channels 2, 3, and 4, 54–72 megahertz; 5 and 6, 76–88 megahertz; 7 through 13, 174–216 megahertz; and the UHF channels, 14 through 83, 470–890 megahertz. These channels are allocated to communities according to a master plan established and administered by the Federal Communications Commission. No more than seven VHF channels are provided in any one area; many smaller cities must be content with one or two channels. In the major cities of Europe, fewer channels (typically two to four per city) are provided, because the higher population density and closer spacing of cities precludes more assignments within the available spectrum.

Broadcast television

After the signal wave form and carrier current are combined in the modulator, the modulated carrier current is amplified (typically to 10,000 watts or more) and passed to the transmitter antenna, which is designed to direct radio waves along the surface of the Earth and to minimize radiation toward the sky. The antenna must be placed to stand as high and in as exposed a location as possible, since the radio waves tend to be intercepted by solid objects that stand in their path, including the Earth’s surface at the horizon. Reception beyond the horizon is possible, but the signal at such distances becomes rapidly weaker as it passes to the limit of the service area.

In the transmitting antenna, the amplified carrier current produces a radio wave of the same frequency that travels through space. This wave induces a considerably weaker, but otherwise identical, current in any receiving antenna located within the service area. The signal picked up by a receiving antenna is typically as low as 0.00000001, or 10^−8, watt, yet even this low power is capable of producing reception of excellent quality, since the amount of amplification conferred on the picture and sound currents by a typical television receiver is extremely large. Indeed, when tuned to a station at a distance of 80 km (50 miles), the power picked up by an antenna can be as low as 10^-8 watt, whereas the signals fed to picture tube and loudspeaker are on the order of 1 watt. In other words, the receiver produces a faithful amplification on the order of 100 million times.

 

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This traveled thru space and returned to earth????
Think before you REPLY..

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this what the F object does not hatch a secured door latch. It will not travel in our atmosphere without completely disintegrating.

THINK!

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Merry Christmas Everyone



Believe what you want...
Ever heard of an airlock?




 

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This image was taken from the commander module, not from the surface of the Moon.
This view from the Apollo 11 spacecraft shows the Earth rising above the moon's horizon.
Michael Collins, command module pilot, remained with the Command and Service Modules (CSM) "Columbia" in lunar orbit.
 

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I'm pretty sure we did land on the moon. However, what interests me is NASA had audio for the public and audio for just the astronauts and NASA. There was some banter that was not supposed to be released to the public insuinuating that something, someone, aliens, I don't know was watching the astronauts when they landed and when they were near the moon. I didn't even believe in aliens until recently and read through government released data, but there are some interesting things that have gone on behind closed doors.
That discrete channel was used for conversations the public didn't need to hear, like the flight surgeon asking Neil Armstrong when was the last time he took a shit.
 

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If you are onboard the craft it is. It's is fast enough to get to certain places in a reasonable time - 1 year at 1g acceleration gets you in the high 95% of the speed of light more than enough for the occupants of a craft to have relativity slow down their aging.

Alpha Centauri is about 6.5 years trip time for this on earth and about 3.5 years for this onboard.

Given we can fuel a nuclear carrier for some 15 years - a craft that could convert energy to thrust (ion etcetera ) has enough theoretical range to do it.

Figuring out how to convert electricity or energy to thrust vs a chemical reaction is the trick that makes it all work.

This just gets us to our closest neighbors though. 1 g continuous opens up our own solar system to mining and other commerce.
Did you know the clocks in the GPS satellite had to be skewed to account for relativity? Because their altitude (far away from earth's gravity at an altitude of 20km) and their speed (14,000 km/h) their clocks had to be slowed down slightly so that they would remain synchronous to earth time. Both gravity and speed affect relativity and therefore time perception, So they are adjusted to be sped up because of their speed, but then slowed down because of their reduced gravity influence, the result is ~40 microseconds per day difference. They also make continual adjustments due to other relativistic effects that can't be modeled or predicted

This is incredibly important since the core of GPS's functionality is based on time differential calculations.
 
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Found this on the web, interesting story.
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I was born on April 21st 1969 just a few months before the apollo 11 mission. My mom apparently made me watch it. My grandmother's sister bought me a pack of A2 sized pictures directly from NASA that were issued shortly after and delivered by the USPS. There was no photoshop back then but I can't see why they would doctor them. My father was a lithigrapher for a printing company and did that sort of thing all the time - you know - get rid of the smile lines on the model etc.. By means of compositing or chemicaly treating the negatives (I got to visit him at work once) and the like. He cannot see any evidence of tampering in these photos. So, here are the two pictures of earth from that mission that I still have over 50 years later. One is on the way to the moon and the other is from orbit around the moon right before they came back from the moon walk. Hope this helps.
 

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I watched a documentary called "The Truman Show". I thought it was pretty good and explains a lot of the concerns raised in this thread....

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I’ve probably smoked way too much weed in my days but I’ve always felt like I’m living in a world and people are always watching. Just like the movie
 

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Did you know the clocks in the GPS satellite had to be skewed to account for relativity? Because their altitude (far away from earth's gravity at an altitude of 20km) and their speed (14,000 km/h) their clocks had to be slowed down slightly so that they would remain synchronous to earth time. Both gravity and speed affect relativity and therefore time perception, So they are adjusted to be sped up because of their speed, but then slowed down because of their reduced gravity influence, the result is ~40 microseconds per day difference. They also make continual adjustments due to other relativistic effects that can't be modeled or predicted

This is incredibly important since the core of GPS's functionality is based on time differential calculations.

Yeah? But is there a meme about this??

If not, it doesn't count. 👎
 

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Basement + Computer + Photoshop + Incel = Doctored images posted on Flat Earth conspiracy websites for consumption by the gullible and uninformed.
That's a nice way of putting it :rolleyes: 😖 I've also come to the conclusion that "Hell" would be forced attendance at a convention of his kind all trading Memes. 🤯
 

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To answer the previous comments about the construction of the lunar module, here are a few facts.

The lunar module wasn't a "beer can," it was built with a substantial aluminum aircraft type structure overlaid with up to 70 layers of special insulations, most less than .007" thick, and a .0012 thick aluminum skin.

While approaching the moon and and before establishing orbit, the astronauts entered the LM to initialize the computer and navigation systems. The command module pressurization was set at 5.7 PSI, and the LM was pressurized to 5 PSI, both using pure oxygen. The slight positive pressure differential made it easier to open the crew hatch between the CM and LM.

After separation from the CM and landing, the astronauts donned their spacesuits, which had independent cooling and oxygen support systems. The 5 PSI LM oxygen atmosphere was externally vented, and that meant the interior matched the external vacuum of space. The exit hatch was opened, and the pair descended to the lunar surface. The procedure was reversed when excursions ended and before ascent back to the CM.

The large ball shaped object in the photo is the oxidizer tank for the ascent engine. An identical tank containing fuel was mounted on the opposite side.

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Did you know the clocks in the GPS satellite had to be skewed to account for relativity? Because their altitude (far away from earth's gravity at an altitude of 20km) and their speed (14,000 km/h) their clocks had to be slowed down slightly so that they would remain synchronous to earth time. Both gravity and speed affect relativity and therefore time perception, So they are adjusted to be sped up because of their speed, but then slowed down because of their reduced gravity influence, the result is ~40 microseconds per day difference. They also make continual adjustments due to other relativistic effects that can't be modeled or predicted

This is incredibly important since the core of GPS's functionality is based on time differential calculations.

Yup it's amazing how even a sliver of offset would throw the whole thing out.

"because math"

I wonder how many satellites flat earth proponents have launched into orbit...lol.
 

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disappearing tire treads...


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disappearing tire treads...


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Although designed for minimal soil disruption, tracks were certainly created as were the boot imprints that in many cases easily obliterating some of the tracks. These tracks can be easily seen in various LRV images, especially the ones not cropped out intentionally .

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At the bottom of this pic you can see how easily a few foot prints have obliterated the tire tracks.
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Same in this one
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And this one
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Although designed for minimal soil disruption, tracks were certainly created as were the boot imprints that in many cases easily obliterating some of the tracks. These tracks can be easily seen in various LRV images, especially the ones not cropped out intentionally .

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At the bottom of this pic you can see how easily a few foot prints have obliterated the tire tracks. View attachment 1315476

Same in this one
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Merry Christmas 🎅
cool

you found some tire tracks..


now let me know when you fine some on these images...

SCARED??

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Merry Christmas
 

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cool

you found some tire tracks..


now let me know when you fine some on these images...

SCARED??

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Merry Christmas
Not scared at all, give us the whole unblurred picture that image was tactfully cropped and photoshop blurred from, and earn back a shred of credibility, maybe.

I give you five full image pictures clearly showing tracks, provide examples of how easily the lunar soil can obliterate those tracks, and you give me one cropped image in some dumb-ass Meme --- I can add another ten images, we can provide you with more images of the LRV and the LEM and we'll only be wasting more of our time on your silliness.

Myself and others have addressed your concerns and questions with viable and credible responses, in turn you reply with junk Memes and insults.

Nope, pollute the web as you, don't care, not my concern.

Regardless, a Merry Christmas to you and yours !!!
 

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Not scared at all, give us the whole unblurred picture that image was tactfully cropped and photoshop blurred from, and earn back a shred of credibility, maybe.

I give you five full image pictures clearly showing tracks, provide examples of how easily the lunar soil can obliterate those tracks, and you give me one cropped image in some dumb-ass Meme --- I can add another ten images, we can provide you with more images of the LRV and the LEM and we'll only be wasting more of our time on your silliness.

Myself and others have addressed your concerns and questions with viable and credible responses, in turn you reply with junk Memes and insults.

Nope, pollute the web as you, don't care, not my concern.

Regardless, a Merry Christmas to you and yours !!!
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it's all here...

little scared..

where's the tire tracks..


tap, tap, tap..LOL


Merry Christmas


becareful, after this...show me an image from the Moon.. of the earth 4x the size of the moon...LOL
 

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LOL

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just a blurry image...


PS.. whats the so called distance to the Moon???
 

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LOL

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just a blurry image...


PS.. whats the so called distance to the Moon???
I'm more impressed by the fender repair using lunar maps from a mission binder and duct tape. The tape was a standard item on Apollo missions, it was also used to adapt CM carbon dioxide scrubber cartridges to fit the LM air system during the Apollo 13 mission.

 

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did some mention blurry picture???

I don't remember who that was... anywho..


here ya go... LOL

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I can’t believe you guys are wasting time responding to this guy. He’s a member of the blinking 12:00 club and clearly quite proud of it.

Rmarion, you’ll never get it, simply because you’ve chosen the wrong side and refuse to even consider a healthy discussion of the facts.

You lost about 4 pages ago. I surely hope you live long enough to see the next human space flights to the moon (again, not for the first time), and then you can contribute 5 more pages of drivel about how that can’t be real either.
 

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LOL

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just a blurry image...


PS.. whats the so called distance to the Moon???
I've provided you with five full sized, uncropped images showing both LRV tracks and how easily in the ash-like lunar regolith (Non-organic soil) they are easily obliterated by humans tracking over them. You respond with the same BS cropped Meme.
If you knew anything at all about how photoshop works, you'd realize you can blur or replace selective pixels, I wasn't referring to bluring an entire image that would be obvious. Show me the rest of the image that one was cropped from.

What do you suppose made all those tracks in the five different images I posted ??? Snail Tracks perhaps ?Two large rolli-polli-bugs racing ?
You're cropped image is useless by comparison.

Here's five more, in some you can see tire tracks leading right up to ------- where humans have obviously obliterated the tracks, again, if not the LRV then what made those tracks ??? Then with one example I cropped it, but that's it, no other alteration and yet, hmmmm, the tire tracks are no longer visible.

With these shown, not for your benefit, as I've come to the conclusion there's zero point in having further discussion with you about anything.
On the contrary, It's for some other person who might yet be playing with at least half a deck.

Good bye sir, your fishing skills should put Grads to shame.

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Note how around the immediate area of the LRV the tire tracks are obliterated, note how when the image isn't cropped you can easily see the tracks leading to where the LRV was stopped.
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Now, here's a cropped LRV closeup of the image above. In the image above the tracks are clearly visible, but in the cropped image, where the astronauts have been walking, they're covered with boot tracks or kicked up lunar ash like soil.

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And Again, notice the tracks, then notice the immediate area where the astronauts walked around the LRV, are the tracks visible leading to the parked LRV visible --- Yes, absolutely, surrounding the LRV, no, they've been obliterated.

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I can’t believe you guys are wasting time responding to this guy. He’s a member of the blinking 12:00 club and clearly quite proud of it.

Rmarion, you’ll never get it, simply because you’ve chosen the wrong side and refuse to even consider a healthy discussion of the facts.

You lost about 4 pages ago. I surely hope you live long enough to see the next human space flights to the moon (again, not for the first time), and then you can contribute 5 more pages of drivel about how that can’t be real either.
I'm doing it for the "Not" rmarions of the world. 🤣 But not anymore, I just formally retired, more of a pre-New Years, New Years resolution. 🥴
At least I don't chase the baits Grad's is fishing with 🤮
 

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Hey dude, quick question for you...

Have you Ever noticed that a full moon will appear MUCH larger, when it first comes over the horizon, than it does when it's directly overhead?

Of course you have, who hasn't, right?

A lot of that has to do with the earth atmosphere, and how it changes the light as it travels though it.

A lot of that has to do with the viewing angle, and it actually being an optical illusion.

So when you realize the moon has NO atmosphere, the size difference makes a little more sense. 😊

Do you have a meme to support that argument? Ha! I thought not. Your point is therefore invalid.
 

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I can’t believe you guys are wasting time responding to this guy. He’s a member of the blinking 12:00 club and clearly quite proud of it.

Rmarion, you’ll never get it, simply because you’ve chosen the wrong side and refuse to even consider a healthy discussion of the facts.

You lost about 4 pages ago. I surely hope you live long enough to see the next human space flights to the moon (again, not for the first time), and then you can contribute 5 more pages of drivel about how that can’t be real either.
DHR

I believed it all.. until 11.4.2020..

the rabbit hole exposed strong possibilities that we did not go and or land on the moon...

most individuals are scared to review other possible options..

shit the four items I posted just recently.. no can dispel... they just scream louder...LOL


do I believe that we went to the Moon?? I'm seriously doubting it now.


all good...

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!

(did I scream loud enough)
 

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opps I lost


so did these Astronauts who were the (so call 1st to walk on the moon)

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