Bud Light partners with trans activist

[LargeOrangeFont]

Nor did I say I was? I said stand up or shut up.. posting shit in an echo chamber is useless as a whole.

Then stop making assumptions as to what other people do or don’t believe.

 

[Buddy]

BL introduced their New can today

 

[Backlash]

"It's only one can."

 

[4Waters]

Who’s got time for that shit? Who knows if the guy even has any money to go after?

His

BL introduced their New can today

Those first "Hero" cans is the direction they should have gone

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

"It's only one can."

We dismantled that pretty easily.

 

[RiverDave]

Then stop making assumptions as to what other people do or don’t believe.

pretty hard to believe that’s what ya got out of that.. I’m starting to understand why you argue non stop.. it seems as though it’s because you don’t actually read what anyone else writes

 

[RiverDave]

We dismantled that pretty easily.

Uhh… Per Clank Just a couple posts ago? Ya know the guy that is a higher up in the beer industry? Works directly with the people you are talking about? Go read his post in its entirety.. maybe read it three or four times since you have a hard time with Comprehension?

Post 1362. (This is a portion of it)

So the facts are…
One can
One post
No contract or financial compensation of any kind.
VP in charge of bud light on leave(already replaced)
Her boss fired
Multiple people that made the decision fired
No free beer for distributors
AB to send 500.00 to each front line worker(driver, sales rep, merchandiser) for what they’ve been put through. No compensation to Management personnel.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

pretty hard to believe that’s what ya got out of that.. I’m starting to understand why you argue non stop.. it seems as though it’s because you don’t actually read what anyone else writes

That is what everyone has got from all of your banter on this matter.

Speaking of reading.. Have you read ABs website yet? Or do you still think this was just 2 people and a can?

 

[RiverDave]

That what everyone has got from all of your banter on this matter.

Speaking of reading.. Have you read ABs website yet? Or do you still think this was just 2 people and a can?

As said go read 1362 he’s pretty intimate with the matter

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Uhh… Per Clank Just a couple posts ago? Ya know the guy that is a higher up in the beer industry? Works directly with the people you are talking about? Go read his post in its entirety.. maybe read it three or four times since you have a hard time with Comprehension?

Post 1362. (This is a portion of it)

So the facts are…
One can
One post
No contract or financial compensation of any kind.
VP in charge of bud light on leave(already replaced)
Her boss fired
Multiple people that made the decision fired
No free beer for distributors
AB to send 500.00 to each front line worker(driver, sales rep, merchandiser) for what they’ve been put through. No compensation to Management personnel.

So are you ready to believe this more than 2 people and a can?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

As said go read 1362 he’s pretty intimate with the matter

I did. Go read about ABs DEI and ESG policies now.

 

[RiverDave]

So are you ready to believe this more than 2 people and a can?

Did you read what he wrote?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Did you read what he wrote?

Yes.. seem like a lot more than 2 people and a can doesn’t it?

I don’t believe for a second it was done for free. You don’t get an influencer with 12M followers for free.

Did you read ABs DEI and ESG?

 

[Wheeler]

Uhh… Per Clank Just a couple posts ago? Ya know the guy that is a higher up in the beer industry? Works directly with the people you are talking about? Go read his post in its entirety.. maybe read it three or four times since you have a hard time with Comprehension?

Post 1362. (This is a portion of it)

So the facts are…
One can
One post
No contract or financial compensation of any kind.
VP in charge of bud light on leave(already replaced)
Her boss fired
Multiple people that made the decision fired
No free beer for distributors
AB to send 500.00 to each front line worker(driver, sales rep, merchandiser) for what they’ve been put through. No compensation to Management personnel.

This is ground control to Major Dave
You've really made the grade
And the papers want to know whose shirts you wear
But it's time to guide the capsule if you dare. ...

 

[RiverDave]

Dave,
Just more fake news.
I think I am one of the few on the board that actually works in the beer business.
And yes, I have been in 3 different states dealing with the fallout of this issue.
When I discuss it with retailers and consumers, like you, I deal in facts.
All the guys in here that know “corporate” people at AB, or get their information from one of the daily beer communications seem to be about half right.
They probably know the way big corporations work and honestly for the size of this one I think they handled it pretty well.
By the way, I’ve had beers with Whitworth numerous times and he’s a smart and pleasant guy put in a tough position by people within the Company.
So the facts are…
One can
One post
No contract or financial compensation of any kind.
VP in charge of bud light on leave(already replaced)
Her boss fired
Multiple people that made the decision fired
No free beer for distributors
AB to send 500.00 to each front line worker(driver, sales rep, merchandiser) for what they’ve been put through. No compensation to Management personnel.
AB was already planning to ramp up support via advertising and Ad presence in Chain Grocery and Membership stores.

As for all the photos of AB products in stock and others brand out of stock.
If you knew the business you’d know the AB’s wholesalers dominate the grocery stores because of the dedicated manpower to stocking shelves versus competition. More often than not the AB shelves are full and competition has been low for years.
Just this morning at Walmart in Parker I helped the Romer salesman stock the shelves to keep them full. Threw probably 30 cases or so.

Bottom line is while not perfect, they handled it pretty quickly given the climate in todays world.
Some of you will never be happy about the way they handled it.
Did they learn a lesson?
I think they did.
Hate on till the end of time if you want.
God bless America!

To your point LOF he made mention of the two people but said everyone involved was fired.

So your big point is it was more than two people.. the “actual point” you are missing is they were all shit canned immediately.

For a large corporation they handled it as swiftly and competently per Dave (Clank123) that they could in his opinion.

RD

 

[RiverDave]

Yes.. seem like a lot more than 2 people and a can doesn’t it?

I don’t believe for a second it was done for free. You don’t get an influencer with 12M followers for free.

Did you read ABs DEI and ESG?

I have a bunch of work today and am helping a member with something but I will tonight.

RD

 

[Outdrive1]

“I know you are but what am I”

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

To your point LOF he made mention of the two people but said everyone involved was fired.

So your big point is it was more than two people.. the “actual point” you are missing is they were all shit canned immediately.

For a large corporation they handled it as swiftly and competently per Dave (Clank123) that they could in his opinion.

RD

You said it was 2 people and a can, over and over, not me. I’ve said it was a series of people all along. Of course they were shit canned, scapegoats for this mess were needed.

I haven’t really criticized how they handed it aside from it taking weeks for the CEO to say anything.

Again, this is all tied back to DEI and ESG policy that starts at the top. If you read what AB publishes you’d understand why they are in this situation in the first place.

There are reports everywhere that distributors are getting free beer. If that is true or not I have no idea. All I know is that consumers won’t be getting the free beer.

https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/anheuser-busch-gives-away-free-bud-light-to-distributors-amid-reported-drop-in-sales-anheuser-busch-dylan-mulvaney#:~:text=86-,Anheuser%2DBusch%20gives%20away%20free%20Bud%20Light%20to,amid%20reported%20drop%20in%20sales&text=WASHINGTON%20(TND)%20—%20Anheuser%2D,social%20media%20influencer%20Dylan%20Mulvaney.

 

[Singleton]

I have a bunch of work today and am helping a member with something but I will tonight.

RD

It’s 105 pages, does not focus on what LOF keeps arguing. I have had to read the thing more then once for work! AB’s DEI initiatives are about inclusion training and increasing female salaried employees. This VP of Marketing that is on leave until that expires then gone with a buyout checked the female salaried box. AB is not pushing what LOF says it is, unlike some other companies

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

It’s 105 pages, does not focus on what LOF keeps arguing. I have had to read the thing more then once for work! AB’s DEI initiatives are about inclusion training and increasing female salaried employees. This VP of Marketing that is on leave until that expires then gone with a buyout checked the female salaried box. AB is not pushing what LOF says it is, unlike some other companies

Sure

You aren’t obtuse.. if they have those programs internally, they are doing outreach outwardly… this whole situation and the public statements from the former marketing VP proves it.

But it was just one can…

 

[RiverDave]

You said it was 2 people and a can, over and over, not me. I’ve said it was a series of people all along. Of course they were shit canned, scapegoats for this mess were needed.

I haven’t really criticized how they handed it aside from it taking weeks for the CEO to say anything.

Again, this is all tied back to DEI and ESG policy that starts at the top. If you read what AB publishes you’d understand why they are in this situation in the first place.

There are reports everywhere that distributors are getting free beer. If that is true or not I have no idea. All I know is that consumers won’t be getting the free beer.

https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/anheuser-busch-gives-away-free-bud-light-to-distributors-amid-reported-drop-in-sales-anheuser-busch-dylan-mulvaney#:~:text=86-,Anheuser%2DBusch%20gives%20away%20free%20Bud%20Light%20to,amid%20reported%20drop%20in%20sales&text=WASHINGTON%20(TND)%20—%20Anheuser%2D,social%20media%20influencer%20Dylan%20Mulvaney.

As was written in post 1362 it details what this “free beer” actually is..

 

[RiverDave]

Sure

You aren’t obtuse.. if they have those programs internally, they are doing outreach outwardly… this whole situation and the public statements from the former marketing VP proves it.

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But it was just one can…

And it was just one can? It’s like you are stuck on repeat?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

And it was just one can? It’s like you are stuck on repeat?

And you seem to be repeating anything anyone tells you that fits your narrative, as you are forced to drift closer and closer to the opinions of those you called sheep. First it was Romer, then the AB CEO, now other members.

Where is the empathy in understanding the positions of others and why this whole thing has angered them?

 

[Singleton]

Sure

You aren’t obtuse.. if they have those programs internally, they are doing outreach outwardly… this whole situation and the public statements from the former marketing VP proves it.

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But it was just one can…

Former VP Marketing.
As stated, she was 6 months in the position and if you researched her before she locked her LinkedIn, what AB hired vs what they got was two different things.

If you going to avoid any company that highlights employee driven inclusive activities, you will be very limited with what public companies you deal with.

100%, don’t think AB is going that direction and as I have stated multiple times, I am spending my money on other beers, but will drink my Kona beer I have left

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Former VP Marketing.
As stated, she was 6 months in the position and if you researched her before she locked her LinkedIn, what AB hired vs what they got was two different things.

If you going to avoid any company that highlights employee driven inclusive activities, you will be very limited with what public companies you deal with.

100%, don’t think AB is going that direction and as I have stated multiple times, I am spending my money on other beers, but will drink my Kona beer I have left

She did public interviews around what she was going to do and where she wanted to take the brand. This was not huge leap.


Have a read of their D&I policy..

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www.ab-inbev.com

Another spoiler alert from said D&I policy.. check out their marketplace D&I goals.

“Our brands and value chain are Agents of Change in driving Diversity and Inclusion”.

Sure seems like this DEI hire grew this campaign from their corporate D&I directives doesn’t it?

By the way, InBev’s ESG score is 19.5. And a poor score is considered below 50.

 

[Wheeler]

And you seem to be repeating anything anyone tells you that fits your narrative, as you are forced to drift closer and closer to the opinions of those you called sheep. First it was Romer, then the AB CEO, now other members.

Where is the empathy in understanding the positions of others and why this whole thing has angered them?

You must be exhausted from fighting RD and his Troupe! Have you considered something other than the pen for use in battle?

 

[Eliminator21vdrive]

https://www.facebook.com/100090530141923/posts/1651806598665343

 

[shintoooo]

First world problems. I can’t believe you guys are still talking about this shit. If this is affecting your lives, then you have way bigger issues that you need to deal with. I bet you guys watch the kardashians on repeat as well.

 

[Wheeler]

First world problems. I can’t believe you guys are still talking about this shit. If this is affecting your lives, then you have way bigger issues that you need to deal with. I bet you guys watch the kardashians on repeat as well.

Is that anyway to moderate? Nice thread bump though.

 

[Fastdadtsmith]

If this is affecting your lives, then you have way bigger issues that you need to deal with.

You're absolutely right shitoo, no reason to be here.

 

[RiverDave]

She did public interviews around what she was going to do and where she wanted to take the brand. This was not huge leap.


Have a read of their D&I policy..

404 Page not found | AB InBev

www.ab-inbev.com

Another spoiler alert from said D&I policy.. check out their marketplace D&I goals.
View attachment 1227783

“Our brands and value chain are Agents of Change in driving Diversity and Inclusion”.

Sure seems like this DEI hire grew this campaign from their corporate D&I directives doesn’t it?

By the way, InBev’s ESG score is 19.5. And a poor score is considered below 50.

And I said earlier according to my friends she was already on the chopping block before this happened because of that interview

 

[USMC2010]

 

[941Punk]

 

[Clank123]

 

[Singleton]

And I said earlier according to my friends she was already on the chopping block before this happened because of that interview

If that is somewhat accurate, you now know why she released that marketing activity she did.
Go out in a way, that requires paid leave and then a paid severance package to STFU.
Hard to believe she goes from the Super Bowl commercials to that interview to the influencer campaign. Complete 180 in under 90 days

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

You must be exhausted from fighting RD and his Troupe! Have you considered something other than the pen for use in battle?

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With how quickly RDs evolving positions are eroding, he will be agreeing with me in another 36 hours

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

And I said earlier according to my friends she was already on the chopping block before this happened because of that interview

If that is somewhat accurate, you now know why she released that marketing activity she did.
Go out in a way, that requires paid leave and then a paid severance package to STFU.
Hard to believe she goes from the Super Bowl commercials to that interview to the influencer campaign. Complete 180 in under 90 days

That is hard to believe.

If she was on her way out and targeted for termination she would not have had sole discretion and sign-off of the marketing campaigns and budget.

Further there would have been a whistleblower on this campaign playing corporate politics.

 

[Danger Dave]

What's the current score?

 

[Wheeler]

That is hard to believe.

If she was on her way out and targeted for termination she would not have had sole discretion and sign-off of the marketing campaigns and budget.

Further there would have been a whistleblower on this campaign playing corporate politics.

Hey Bud! don't argue with your elders. Dave knows best!

 

[was thatguy]

First world problems. I can’t believe you guys are still talking about this shit. If this is affecting your lives, then you have way bigger issues that you need to deal with. I bet you guys watch the kardashians on repeat as well.

 

[DWC]

First world problems. I can’t believe you guys are still talking about this shit. If this is affecting your lives, then you have way bigger issues that you need to deal with. I bet you guys watch the kardashians on repeat as well.

Never the Kardashians. Maybe Below Deck when I’m bored but that’s it.

 

[Mcob25rg]

RD, I’m starting the vote to close this thread so we can all move on - the horse died long ago - I hope the majority feel like me

 

[was thatguy]

RD, I’m starting the vote to close this thread so we can all move on - the horse died long ago - I hope the majority feel like me

It is possible for you to just not read it, instead of imposing your wishes on those who see this as a bigger issue.

 

[Shlbyntro]

It is possible for you to just not read it, instead of imposing your wishes on those who see this as a bigger issue.

it is getting to the point where it should probably be in the dungeon tho....

 

[Lumpy]

 

[Wheeler]

RD, I’m starting the vote to close this thread so we can all move on - the horse died long ago - I hope the majority feel like me

LOF is about to get schooled by Ardy. Cant' close it down yet!

 

[Roosky01]

I think this thread should be kept alive. If you actually read and put some emphasis on comprehension, its a pretty good discussion.

Just my $.02

 

[BingerFang]

With how quickly RDs evolving positions are eroding, he will be agreeing with me in another 36 hours

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I think this thread should be kept alive. If you actually read and put some emphasis on comprehension, its a pretty good discussion.

Just my $.02

It’s funny, any debate here is labeled “arguing” anymore, and people call for it to be stopped. I don’t think there is much if anything in this thread that would not be said to each other faces. It’s a decent debate.

But hey the guys in the P&G and Speed threads call each other names incessantly for months on end and it seems to be fine.

 

[Roosky01]

I have thought about things regarding this over the past few days and wondered what the heck I would do if I had a good friend that was caught in the crossfire where his and his family's livelihood was dependent on selling or representing something that I was at odds with? I would like to think that I would publicly have his back (even though I didn't like it), but in the background trying like hell to help them transition into something that I could pour all of my help into in order for them to succeed.

These situations suck and damn good people get sucked up into it at no fault of their own. Its a damn shame... Still not going to buy any BL though.