Bud Light partners with trans activist

[4Waters]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1654532408165769217

When it's an obvious parody it's funny

 

[Singleton]

When it's an obvious parody it's funny

Run that ad today in this super sensitive PC world and AB would be getting killed in the news.

 

[OCMerrill]

When it's an obvious parody it's funny

Thats exactly what it was. The Bud Lite issue is not a parody...however I think that dude is acting out the whole thing for the love of money.

Now I understand he's going to get breast implants so he can show the world he's truthful.

Nobody acts like that and can wear the word truthful.

 

[Dan Lorenze]

When it's an obvious parody it's funny

We should've seen this coming....

 

[Lunatic Fringe]

Having read all of Dave's posts in this thread, I have come to the inevitable conclusion that he wants more memes.

I'm here to help.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Thats exactly what it was. The Bud Lite issue is not a parody...however I think that dude is acting out the whole thing for the love of money.

Now I understand he's going to get breast implants so he can show the world he's truthful.

Nobody acts like that and can wear the word truthful.

I wonder if the implants will be in the shape of a Nike Swoosh or a BL can?

 

[RiverDave]

I read it. Why do you think I’ve been asking If RD read it. There is plenty of social stuff in it. Is it their main focus? No, but it is there. The screenshot is just the tip of the iceberg.

The C Suite didn’t know about this specific campaign. There were more than 2 people that knew about this campaign. I assure you the 2 people didn’t sign
Dylan’s check. You and I both know this and that the “ 2 people” line is BS. The people above the marketing VP knew what they were getting when they hired her. Plus she did public interviews before this debacle.

Lessons are not free. Maybe these partners and distributors should also advocate their displeasure with the cavalier actions of the marketing department. Because if everyone bends a knee because it might hurt the little guy, nothing gets done. If some money is lost, you can bet they will not do anything to alienate their customer base.

Again, no one was here crying about the little guy when everyone was onboard boycotting Nike, NFL or the NBA.

Romer is getting free beer as a consolation prize. That free beer won’t be passed on to you or me.

AB is going to be fine and you proved the point I laid out pages ago. You went from BL to a more expensive AB product.. InBev wins. I don’t drink BL, but I’m drinking another AB product that costs more.

BL share will be mostly back by fall. Judging the fate of BL by the shelves in Lake Havasu is fallacy.

All the boating events are still going to happen. Let’s not cry for Argentina yet .

Where did you hear that Romer or any distributors are getting “free beer?”

 

[Backlash]

Well, at the rate sales are going, it seems like the only way to get rid of BL is to give it away.

 

[Clank123]

Where did you hear that Romer or any distributors are getting “free beer?”

Dave,
Just more fake news.
I think I am one of the few on the board that actually works in the beer business.
And yes, I have been in 3 different states dealing with the fallout of this issue.
When I discuss it with retailers and consumers, like you, I deal in facts.
All the guys in here that know “corporate” people at AB, or get their information from one of the daily beer communications seem to be about half right.
They probably know the way big corporations work and honestly for the size of this one I think they handled it pretty well.
By the way, I’ve had beers with Whitworth numerous times and he’s a smart and pleasant guy put in a tough position by people within the Company.
So the facts are…
One can
One post
No contract or financial compensation of any kind.
VP in charge of bud light on leave(already replaced)
Her boss fired
Multiple people that made the decision fired
No free beer for distributors
AB to send 500.00 to each front line worker(driver, sales rep, merchandiser) for what they’ve been put through. No compensation to Management personnel.
AB was already planning to ramp up support via advertising and Ad presence in Chain Grocery and Membership stores.

As for all the photos of AB products in stock and others brand out of stock.
If you knew the business you’d know the AB’s wholesalers dominate the grocery stores because of the dedicated manpower to stocking shelves versus competition. More often than not the AB shelves are full and competition has been low for years.
Just this morning at Walmart in Parker I helped the Romer salesman stock the shelves to keep them full. Threw probably 30 cases or so.

Bottom line is while not perfect, they handled it pretty quickly given the climate in todays world.
Some of you will never be happy about the way they handled it.
Did they learn a lesson?
I think they did.
Hate on till the end of time if you want.
God bless America!

 

[RiverDave]

I read it. Why do you think I’ve been asking If RD read it. There is plenty of social stuff in it. Is it their main focus? No, but it is there. The screenshot is just the tip of the iceberg.

The C Suite didn’t know about this specific campaign. There were more than 2 people that knew about this campaign. I assure you the 2 people didn’t sign
Dylan’s check. You and I both know this and that the “ 2 people” line is BS. The people above the marketing VP knew what they were getting when they hired her. Plus she did public interviews before this debacle.

Lessons are not free. Maybe these partners and distributors should also advocate their displeasure with the cavalier actions of the marketing department. Because if everyone bends a knee because it might hurt the little guy, nothing gets done. If some money is lost, you can bet they will not do anything to alienate their customer base.

Again, no one was here crying about the little guy when everyone was onboard boycotting Nike, NFL or the NBA.

Romer is getting free beer as a consolation prize. That free beer won’t be passed on to you or me.

AB is going to be fine and you proved the point I laid out pages ago. You went from BL to a more expensive AB product.. InBev wins. I don’t drink BL, but I’m drinking another AB product that costs more.

BL share will be mostly back by fall. Judging the fate of BL by the shelves in Lake Havasu is fallacy.

All the boating events are still going to happen. Let’s not cry for Argentina yet .

I have not read it post a link please

 

[RiverDave]

Dave, you are the one with the website and platform. You put yourself out there, and you got targeted.

If you want to send the RDP revenue over to me, I’ll take the hits for you We are in a culture war. You are an online target. Wars have casualties. AB is a casualty of a culture war.

We have expressed many times why people are angry over this. It has to do with everything you said, and as @Racey pointed out, this was the straw that broke the camel’s back. AB got caught in the crosshairs on this one.

I’ve said for years nothing is going to get accomplished here on this site. Frankly nothing is going to get solved bitching on any social media platform.

You are basically telling people to abandon their principles and stop being pissed off at AB because there are bigger targets I guess? Because you know someone that might be impacted? That is not a reason someone is going to abandon their position. You don’t have a monopoly on principles or sticking to them. It seems that some people are just as grounded in their principles as you are, and just don’t have the same personal connection.

The reason rdp was targeted by the blm movement was because of comments a couple members made in the political section. Lol

Contrary to your beliefs you don’t know everything.

 

[Bobby V]

Well, at the rate sales are going, it seems like the only way to get rid of BL is to give it away.

It’s the beer on tap at happy hour at Chilis. Coors Light is $1.50 more. Nobody gives a shit about the boycott when the beer is cheaper during happy hour.

 

[RiverDave]

Dave, you are the one with the website and platform. You put yourself out there, and you got targeted.

If you want to send the RDP revenue over to me, I’ll take the hits for you We are in a culture war. You are an online target. Wars have casualties. AB is a casualty of a culture war.

We have expressed many times why people are angry over this. It has to do with everything you said, and as @Racey pointed out, this was the straw that broke the camel’s back. AB got caught in the crosshairs on this one.

I’ve said for years nothing is going to get accomplished here on this site. Frankly nothing is going to get solved bitching on any social media platform.

You are basically telling people to abandon their principles and stop being pissed off at AB because there are bigger targets I guess? Because you know someone that might be impacted? That is not a reason someone is going to abandon their position. You don’t have a monopoly on principles or sticking to them. It seems that some people are just as grounded in their principles as you are, and just don’t have the same personal connection.

For the last part of your post there that is not what I said at all. To be very clear

I said bitching about these problems on here does nothing. Well other than create additional problems in the form of negative content.

I think we have one maybe two members that lean left on here anymore. So it’s basically an echo chamber of varying degrees of right.

So I question the point of any of it? I’m not asking anyone to abandon their principles! Quite the opposite actually, I am saying why not go and actually do something? Put up or shut up, being the point.

I promise I’ll be right beside anyone that does.. but I don’t think anyone actually will aside from WTG..

 

[Gelcoater]

The reason rdp was targeted by the blm movement was because of comments a couple members made in the political section. Lol

 

[RiverDave]

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Lol actually it wasn’t him

 

[RiverDave]

Dave,
Just more fake news.
I think I am one of the few on the board that actually works in the beer business.
And yes, I have been in 3 different states dealing with the fallout of this issue.
When I discuss it with retailers and consumers, like you, I deal in facts.
All the guys in here that know “corporate” people at AB, or get their information from one of the daily beer communications seem to be about half right.
They probably know the way big corporations work and honestly for the size of this one I think they handled it pretty well.
By the way, I’ve had beers with Whitworth numerous times and he’s a smart and pleasant guy put in a tough position by people within the Company.
So the facts are…
One can
One post
No contract or financial compensation of any kind.
VP in charge of bud light on leave(already replaced)
Her boss fired
Multiple people that made the decision fired
No free beer for distributors
AB to send 500.00 to each front line worker(driver, sales rep, merchandiser) for what they’ve been put through. No compensation to Management personnel.
AB was already planning to ramp up support via advertising and Ad presence in Chain Grocery and Membership stores.

As for all the photos of AB products in stock and others brand out of stock.
If you knew the business you’d know the AB’s wholesalers dominate the grocery stores because of the dedicated manpower to stocking shelves versus competition. More often than not the AB shelves are full and competition has been low for years.
Just this morning at Walmart in Parker I helped the Romer salesman stock the shelves to keep them full. Threw probably 30 cases or so.

Bottom line is while not perfect, they handled it pretty quickly given the climate in todays world.
Some of you will never be happy about the way they handled it.
Did they learn a lesson?
I think they did.
Hate on till the end of time if you want.
God bless America!

Wish ya woulda posted that awhile ago lol

 

[Lunatic Fringe]

Of course AB stopped after the initial can/cans. Only complete morons would have forged ahead after seeing the uproar it caused. Can't really give a bunch of credit for that.

I'd bet Mulvaney was paid more to STOP posting and associating with BL than he was in their original agreement to promote it.

 

[jetboatperformance]

take a swing !

 

[ChumpChange]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1654532408165769217

I think this is pretty indicative of women’s sports these days. Biological men dominating.

 

[Member: 71]

This just reminded me of the Coors boycott back in the late 60s/70s in regards to the discrimination of Latinos. I think to this today Coors Banquet never fully recovered with the Latino community.

Cut and Paste from the web.

In the mid-1960s, to protest discriminatory hiring practices, Chicano groups in Colorado called for a boycott of the Coors Brewing Company, launching what would become a decades-long boycott that brought together a coalition of activists that would include not just Chicano and Latino groups, but also African American groups, union organizers, LGBT activists, students, environmentalists and feminists.
These groups had a variety of motivations for their involvement in the boycott and varied success in achieving their goals. Although the formal boycott ended by the late 1980s, some activists continue to boycott Coors beer to today.

 

[regor]

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I have friends that are black, FUCK off coater……

 

[regor]

And @RiverDave want do you want to do?

I’m an educator by trade , but I’m open to something different.

 

[was thatguy]

That was quick.

 

[Mr. C]

That was quick.

Damn.

 

[was thatguy]

Damn.

RD must have a Grads alarm on his phone!?

 

[Mr. C]

RD must have a Grads alarm on his phone!?

Lol. I was gonna answer with a hi Greg. But just decided a lol emoji would be better.

 

[ChumpChange]

I have friends that are black, FUCK off coater……

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Until this post I thought @RiverDave was saying this site was targeted by the bureau
of land management. I seriously thought it had to do with something they were fighting for about the river or something.

 

[was thatguy]

Until this post I thought @RiverDave was saying this site was targeted by the bureau
of land management. I seriously thought it had to do with something they were fighting for about the river or something.

It can be both.

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

It can be both.

Nice new Avatar… baaahhh.

 

[Andy B.]

This just reminded me of the Coors boycott back in the late 60s/70s in regards to the discrimination of Latinos. I think to this today Coors Banquet never fully recovered with the Latino community.

Cut and Paste from the web.

In the mid-1960s, to protest discriminatory hiring practices, Chicano groups in Colorado called for a boycott of the Coors Brewing Company, launching what would become a decades-long boycott that brought together a coalition of activists that would include not just Chicano and Latino groups, but also African American groups, union organizers, LGBT activists, students, environmentalists and feminists.
These groups had a variety of motivations for their involvement in the boycott and varied success in achieving their goals. Although the formal boycott ended by the late 1980s, some activists continue to boycott Coors beer to today.

Coors did just fine actually they have really good retirement for employees! Stop with the LBGYQRST bullshit! I lived in Colorado from 76 until 89 Coors never missed a beat!!!

 

[Mr. C]

And in. 3. 2. 1.

 

[4Waters]

The reason rdp was targeted by the blm movement was because of comments a couple members made in the political section. Lol

Contrary to your beliefs you don’t know everything.

When did blm target RDP?

 

[Racey]

When did blm target RDP?

Remember the DDOS attacks that kept shutting the site down? About a year ago maybe?

 

[4Waters]

Remember the DDOS attacks that kept shutting the site down? About a year ago maybe?

Yeah, I don't buy that. The 5 or so libs that "tried" an experiment and logged off 2 or 3 days before that happened had nothing to do with that, it was all blm

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

The reason rdp was targeted by the blm movement was because of comments a couple members made in the political section. Lol

Contrary to your beliefs you don’t know everything.

Then maybe you should not have a political section…

I never said I knew everything . but I know are not the sole proprietor of principles either .

 

[Gelcoater]

I have friends that are black, FUCK off coater……

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That bar graph is racist as fuck.
Where are the Asians?

And, why no white on white, black on black, Hispanic on Hispanic, or the Asians?

 

[Racey]

Yeah, I don't buy that. The 5 or so libs that "tried" an experiment and logged off 2 or 3 days before that happened had nothing to do with that, it was all blm

The kind of attack this site was under costs a fuckload of money in bandwidth, so those 5 users either just wanted to dump tens of thousands of dollars, or they had backing from someone.

 

[4Waters]

The kind of attack this site was under costs a fuckload of money in bandwidth, so those 5 users either just wanted to dump tens of thousands of dollars, or they had backing from someone.

I'm not saying they did it, I'm just saying they had something to so with it. It wasn't all blm, blm was tipped off

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

The kind of attack this site was under costs a fuckload of money in bandwidth, so those 5 users either just wanted to dump tens of thousands of dollars, or they had backing from someone.

Let’s be real.. it was not them. Aside from possibly GMAC.

 

[was thatguy]

Just sayin’
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Ok, that’s pretty funny.

 

[RiverDave]

When did blm target RDP?

During the protests someone stumbled on this website.. the person (whom I tracked down later) called all of our advertisers saying that “rdp propagated and encourages the killing of black people”. I think I still have some of the recorded calls.. guy is a real estate agent out of La Jolla.

Then rdp and my phone number were posted on their sites and one of their higher ups, some guy with an Australian accent called me and recorded the call and put the conversation online when I told him and anyone else threatening me to “bring it.”

During the protest in havasu there was a guy hanging around downtown waiting for me to leave so he could break the windows at my store.. I ended up being there till like 3;30-4:00 am before he finally went away.

A couple weeks later I was on the side of my house at like 2:30 am, and two dudes / activists showed up with not so good intentions. Triggered by that recorded phone call.

They learned on the quick that I keep odd hours and am not remotely fucking around when it comes to home defense. (Especially when all that shit was going on)

Anyhow haven’t heard anything since..


RD

 

[RiverDave]

The kind of attack this site was under costs a fuckload of money in bandwidth, so those 5 users either just wanted to dump tens of thousands of dollars, or they had backing from someone.

That was the libs

 

[RiverDave]

Yeah, I don't buy that. The 5 or so libs that "tried" an experiment and logged off 2 or 3 days before that happened had nothing to do with that, it was all blm

Different deal.. as said above

 

[4Waters]

During the protests someone stumbled on this website.. the person (whom I tracked down later) called all of our advertisers.. then rdp and my phone number were posted on their sites and one of their higher ups, some guy with an Australian accent called me and recorded the call and put the conversation online when I told him and anyone else to “bring it.” During the protest in havasu there was a guy hanging around downtown waiting for me to leave so he could break the windows at my store.. I ended up being there till like 3;30-4:00 am before he finally went away.

A couple weeks later I was on the side of my house at like 2:30 am, and two dudes / activists showed up with not so good intentions. Triggered by that recorded phone call.

They learned on the quick that I keep odd hours and am not remotely fucking around when it comes to home defense. (Especially when all that shut was going on)

Anyhow haven’t heard anything since..


RD

So he illegally recorded you, why haven't you sued the living shit out of him and his organization (blm)

 

[RiverDave]

Then maybe you should not have a political section…

I never said I knew everything . but I know are not the sole proprietor of principles either .

Nor did I say I was? I said stand up or shut up.. posting shit in an echo chamber is useless as a whole.

 

[RiverDave]

So he illegally recorded you, why haven't you sued the living shit out of him and his organization (blm)

Who’s got time for that shit? Who knows if the guy even has any money to go after?

 

[Lunatic Fringe]

I said stand up or shut up.. posting shit in an echo chamber is useless as a whole.

Doesn't this part strike you as a bit of a harsh thing to say?

If people don't participate in a movement on a level you approve of then "shut up"?
Sometimes (generally) the discussion of something is what predicates action.

Also, you're assuming you know what members are doing in the time they are not logged in to RDP.

Not everyone shares all the details of their lives outside of this site.

Not poking holes here but just asking.

 

[RiverDave]

Doesn't this part strike you as a bit of a harsh thing to say?

If people don't participate in a movement on a level you approve of then "shut up"?
Sometimes (generally) the discussion of something is what predicates action.

Also, you're assuming you know what members are doing in the time they are not logged in to RDP.

Not everyone shares all the details of their lives outside of this site.

Not poking holes here but just asking.

I am being presumptuous, but I’d bet I’m right

 

[Member: 71]

Coors did just fine actually they have really good retirement for employees! Stop with the LBGYQRST bullshit! I lived in Colorado from 76 until 89 Coors never missed a beat!!!

Reading comprehension.

 

[Mcob25rg]

RD, u da man! Being behind a keyboard or on the phone is WAY DIFFERENT than being face to face. I’m in total agreement with you. I had a similar situation with some union reps. Tried to intimidate me. I said bring everything you have on the first trip - you’ll need it all, and it will be easier for me to handle it all at one time. They didn’t get what they wanted, they didn’t get me or my family. Sometimes you have to be ready to defend you positions, reguardless of cost