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Let the tarring and hanging begin.

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A lot of soldiers being sent, and a lot of contractors already there. If a C17 can hold 800 refugees, it should only happen after the citizens are out.
We'll never hear how many contractors are lost. We may not even hear how many soldiers are lost. Each one of them should be home before we worry about Afghani refugees.
 
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monkeyswrench said:
A lot of soldiers being sent, and a lot of contractors already there. If a C17 can hold 800 refugees, it should only happen after the citizens are out.
We'll never here how many contractors are lost. We may not even here how many soldiers are lost. Each one of them should be home before we worry about Afghani refugees.
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monkeyswrench said:
A lot of soldiers being sent, and a lot of contractors already there. If a C17 can hold 800 refugees, it should only happen after the citizens are out.
We'll never here how many contractors are lost. We may not even here how many soldiers are lost. Each one of them should be home before we worry about Afghani refugees.
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Fuck Afghani refugees!! Not our fault they were born there. We can't afford ourselves let alone refugees from there or from the Southern border. Aren't we all getting rather sick of trying to save the world!! FUCK everyone else, take care of US first!!!
 
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So here is a question for everyone saying this is 100% Biden’s fault...

Trump along with everyone else with a double digit IQ knew full well getting out of Afghanistan was going to be a train wreck. Virtually everything that was said in that 2012 segment was correct... That being the case what exactly was the better option?

I agree 100% that this was botched from the get to. It will likely cost the D’s both chambers in the midterms and lgive the R’s all three branches of the government in 2024.
 
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squeezer said:
So here is a question for everyone saying this is 100% Biden’s fault...

Trump along with everyone else with a double digit IQ knew full well getting out of Afghanistan was going to be a train wreck. Virtually everything that was said in that 2012 segment was correct... That being the case what exactly was the better option?

I agree 100% that this was botched from the get to. It will likely cost the D’s both chambers in the midterms and lgive the R’s all three branches of the government in 2024.
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Hey IDIOT, this just gets thrown on top of ALL the other shit your side has fucked up these past 7 months. Anything, anyone but Trump, we're all paying for your mistake commie!!
 
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squeezer said:
So here is a question for everyone saying this is 100% Biden’s fault...

Trump along with everyone else with a double digit IQ knew full well getting out of Afghanistan was going to be a train wreck. Virtually everything that was said in that 2012 segment was correct... That being the case what exactly was the better option?

I agree 100% that this was botched from the get to. It will likely cost the D’s both chambers in the midterms and lgive the R’s all three branches of the government in 2024.
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Few are questioning leaving that hell hole.

It’s the way we left thats shitty.

A slow draw-down that would allow us to remove equipment and people would have been orders of magnitude better than high-tailing it out while leaving equipment and people behind.

But that hell hole was a massive money-grab by the military industrial complex and Warhawk politicians on both sides of the aisle should hang.


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squeezer said:
So here is a question for everyone saying this is 100% Biden’s fault...

Trump along with everyone else with a double digit IQ knew full well getting out of Afghanistan was going to be a train wreck. Virtually everything that was said in that 2012 segment was correct... That being the case what exactly was the better option?

I agree 100% that this was botched from the get to. It will likely cost the D’s both chambers in the midterms and lgive the R’s all three branches of the government in 2024.
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Just off the top, TAKE OUR SHIT WITH US!!!
Why leave them arms and equipment?
I believe Trump had a plan with his military advisors that just didn’t get implemented. Just think if Jao didn’t get 81 bagillion votes this could be Trumps problem.
 
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squeezer said:
So here is a question for everyone saying this is 100% Biden’s fault...

Trump along with everyone else with a double digit IQ knew full well getting out of Afghanistan was going to be a train wreck. Virtually everything that was said in that 2012 segment was correct... That being the case what exactly was the better option?

I agree 100% that this was botched from the get to. It will likely cost the D’s both chambers in the midterms and lgive the R’s all three branches of the government in 2024.
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I don’t have the answer. But after what I’ve seen today (I realize hindsight is 20/20).

If the goal was to cut ties and get out ASAP then we should have put troops in position to recover the people equipment and assets. And leave them with nothing. Leaving the equipment is insane to me. Destroy it at a minimum.

Anyone who engaged in a hostile manner should have been engaged with lethal force. At the very least let them remember how dangerous the US can be.

20 years of nation building makes us responsible for the refugees in my opinion. And idk what the answer is to that. You can’t show up and preach peace and democracy and then let the terroists take back control. Personally putting them on US soil is a bad idea. Bad apples sneak through no matter how much you try.

We should have never been there in the first place and now it’s a complete shit show.




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I understand completely where you guys are coming from. It would be counterproductive to pull the 82nd and the MEU out before taking any sort of refugees, that’s not how these things work. If we pulled security out, there is zero chance of bringing back any sort of refugees. Refugees being a loose term obviously, but these being those who have aided us against the Taliban. At any rate, Biden stagnated the pullout giving the Taliban time to plan a pseudo offensive while our leadership was trying to figure out white rage and being inclusive.
If you guys want to track any of the flights in or out that are squawking, look at Flightradar24.com

and if you see a fever or pedro callsign, say an extra prayer from my boys still in country.
 
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squeezer said:
So here is a question for everyone saying this is 100% Biden’s fault...

Trump along with everyone else with a double digit IQ knew full well getting out of Afghanistan was going to be a train wreck. Virtually everything that was said in that 2012 segment was correct... That being the case what exactly was the better option?

I agree 100% that this was botched from the get to. It will likely cost the D’s both chambers in the midterms and lgive the R’s all three branches of the government in 2024.
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Although I would love to blame Biden for this, I cannot. He, just like the previous 3 Presidents, were only making moves based on what info they had been fed. Someone in the current administration thought this was a good move...that person was probably not a soldier, or did not have actual combat history.

This administration may not admit to it, but they will own it.

As for better moves, hindsight is always 20/20, but a more organized and lengthy drawdown would have been better. The logistics could have been planned and more equipment and contractors could have been brought back. The hardline date, to meet an exit, forced a lot of things to be rushed, and many loose ends. Bagram was a small city, protected with soldiers and defendable positions. Kabul's airport is probably the equivalent of LAX in 1960. Sure, planes can land there, but not equipped for it's current duty.

As for Trump vs Biden: My main reason behind supporting Trump had nothing to do with the economy or fuel prices. Nor did it bother me one tweeted like a drunk frat boy or one's son was a dope fiend. Most soldiers I've met liked that Trump backed the military. Soldiers meant something to him. Maybe it was just optics, but it seemed to be true.
 
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wallnutz said:
Just off the top, TAKE OUR SHIT WITH US!!!
Why leave them arms and equipment?
I believe Trump had a plan with his military advisors that just didn’t get implemented. Just think if Jao didn’t get 81 bagillion votes this could be Trumps problem.
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I was just going to post this , how much shit did we leave for these fuck jokes ? Did we pull all the good shit out of them ? Fuck at least take the Fuckn keys 🤬🤬🤬😩
 
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squeezer said:
So here is a question for everyone saying this is 100% Biden’s fault...

Trump along with everyone else with a double digit IQ knew full well getting out of Afghanistan was going to be a train wreck. Virtually everything that was said in that 2012 segment was correct... That being the case what exactly was the better option?

I agree 100% that this was botched from the get to. It will likely cost the D’s both chambers in the midterms and lgive the R’s all three branches of the government in 2024.
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LOL let me answer yore question with another. Do you think this could have gone ANY worse? Biden has been President for over 6 months. No one in the administration was smart enough to hit the damn pause button? Trump got into power and shredded the deal with Iran. Biden could have rewrote, terminated or punted this deal. I GUARANTEE there was a whole litany of people in our government that said letting this withdrawal go down like this will be complete chaos.

To your point this would have been messy either way, but this was a complete shit show. Biden inherited the agreement, not the scenario for the draw down, he created it. He had control on the direction this could go. The correct way to have done this was to bring in assets and reinforcements (a lot more) BEFORE this withdrawal and at least secure what appeared to be an orderly looking exit before the Taliban took over and started killing people. He didn’t even attempt to control the optics. Had he controlled the optics, at least we’d only be hearing about people being slaughtered through our usual right wing news sources. This is so ugly and so botched no one can ignore it.

As you said, I think this fool just threw away the mid-terms and 2024.

Will you be drinking your morning coffee out of yore Biden cup tomorrow morning? :)
 
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monkeyswrench said:
A lot of soldiers being sent, and a lot of contractors already there. If a C17 can hold 800 refugees, it should only happen after the citizens are out.
We'll never here how many contractors are lost. We may not even here how many soldiers are lost. Each one of them should be home before we worry about Afghani refugees.
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This pic is insane. Gonna be some crazy stories from family members for generations to come.
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I’m a little surprised at the seeming naïvety from some of our good friends and posters here?

This is a way of life in some parts of the world...and it gets much much worse.
we are immune in this country from marauding hordes with machetes and warlords with Toyota trucks and machine gun equipped rebel armies.
Yea, we have taken terrorist attacks on a huge scale. But it isn’t our day to day.
Our day to day worries involve the delay of delivery of our $100K trucks due to chip shortages in some foreign land.
I just turned the channel and see a black chick telling me that “we need” more people that look like her to be running the networks.
I see a tranny telling me “we need” more people like him to stand up so that I can learn how to treat them...or something like that.
These are apparently our concerns here in this nation. Hanging onto a plane in a suicidal attempt to escape an even more certain and horrible death is beyond our comprehension, but an easy choice for those who are forced to make that choice.
Look around, take a good look at what Trump tried very hard to accomplish and where we are today in a few short months.
OPEC just told Jao to fuck off exactly as I knew they would.
This isn’t fucking checkers...it’s 3D chess.
Biden and the hyena are completely fucked up and astronomically in over their heads.
You don’t just posture and play with wokeness for popularity when you have an entire globe just ACHING to fuck your world up.
So get used to it, because in just 6 short months Jao had delivered it to your doorsteps.

Oh, and anyone who thinks the fake black whore is going to sit in that chair for more than a simple grace period has never heard of Hillary Clinton.
 
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77hallett said:
I understand completely where you guys are coming from. It would be counterproductive to pull the 82nd and the MEU out before taking any sort of refugees, that’s not how these things work. If we pulled security out, there is zero chance of bringing back any sort of refugees. Refugees being a loose term obviously, but these being those who have aided us against the Taliban. At any rate, Biden stagnated the pullout giving the Taliban time to plan a pseudo offensive while our leadership was trying to figure out white rage and being inclusive.
If you guys want to track any of the flights in or out that are squawking, look at Flightradar24.com

and if you see a fever or pedro callsign, say an extra prayer from my boys still in country.
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Looks like a no-fly zone now. Everyone is going around except one aircraft taking off from Kabul named KODI.
 
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was thatguy said:
I’m a little surprised at the seeming naïvety from some of our good friends and posters here?

This is a way of life in some parts of the world...and it gets much much worse.
we are immune in this country from marauding hordes with machetes and warlords with Toyota trucks and machine gun equipped rebel armies.
Yea, we have taken terrorist attacks on a huge scale. But it isn’t our day to day.
Our day to day worries involve the delay of delivery of our $100K trucks due to chip shortages in some foreign land.
I just turned the channel and see a black chick telling me that “we need” more people that look like her to be running the networks.
I see a tranny telling me “we need” more people like him to stand up so that I can learn how to treat them...or something like that.
These are apparently our concerns here in this nation. Hanging onto a plane in a suicidal attempt to escape an even more certain and horrible death is beyond our comprehension, but an easy choice for those who are forced to make that choice.
Look around, take a good look at what Trump tried very hard to accomplish and where we are today in a few short months.
OPEC just told Jao to fuck off exactly as I knew they would.
This isn’t fucking checkers...it’s 3D chess.
Biden and the hyena are completely fucked up and astronomically in over their heads.
You don’t just posture and play with wokeness for popularity when you have an entire globe just ACHING to fuck your world up.
So get used to it, because in just 6 short months Jao had delivered it to your doorsteps.

Oh, and anyone who thinks the fake black whore is going to sit in that chair for more than a simple grace period has never heard of Hillary Clinton.
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Just to add to Tommy's post. I did my first trip to the baja tip some 47 years ago, as we were driving down that long ass road we came around a turn and there walking down that silver of sideroad was 4 women CARRYING 5 gallon buckets. I looked over at my friend, who was an old timer going down there, and asked "what the hell is that". We were in the middle of nowhere. He calmly said they were on the way back from the water source with those 5 gallon buckets and I could not believe it. He calmly said "they don't know anything different".
Those people over there in that shithole are the same way and now we have bleeding heart assholes that want to bring them here and we can't afford ourselves let alone these goat fuckers. Leave them there where they belong.
 
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was thatguy said:
I’m a little surprised at the seeming naïvety from some of our good friends and posters here?

This is a way of life in some parts of the world...and it gets much much worse.
we are immune in this country from marauding hordes with machetes and warlords with Toyota trucks and machine gun equipped rebel armies.
Yea, we have taken terrorist attacks on a huge scale. But it isn’t our day to day.
Our day to day worries involve the delay of delivery of our $100K trucks due to chip shortages in some foreign land.
I just turned the channel and see a black chick telling me that “we need” more people that look like her to be running the networks.
I see a tranny telling me “we need” more people like him to stand up so that I can learn how to treat them...or something like that.
These are apparently our concerns here in this nation. Hanging onto a plane in a suicidal attempt to escape an even more certain and horrible death is beyond our comprehension, but an easy choice for those who are forced to make that choice.
Look around, take a good look at what Trump tried very hard to accomplish and where we are today in a few short months.
OPEC just told Jao to fuck off exactly as I knew they would.
This isn’t fucking checkers...it’s 3D chess.
Biden and the hyena are completely fucked up and astronomically in over their heads.
You don’t just posture and play with wokeness for popularity when you have an entire globe just ACHING to fuck your world up.
So get used to it, because in just 6 short months Jao had delivered it to your doorsteps.

Oh, and anyone who thinks the fake black whore is going to sit in that chair for more than a simple grace period has never heard of Hillary Clinton.
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We're six months in...our leadership has effectively ruined the morale of our current and future soldiers, as well as that of our law enforcement. The economy is quietly taking a beating, as all eyes are currently fixed on an embarrassment of global grandeur...

Six months is all it has taken to hamstring a once great nation.

Given another six months, we'll all be wishing for the days of bitching about computer chip shortages.

While all eyes are focused on the obvious, the truth will be shown more boldly, and ignored as ludicrous.
 
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if it was me i would put a missile into every building that is or was storing armament and if there was anybody home tough shit..... bad part is a lot of these weapons will be sold on the world market for cash to fund the agenda of those mf....
 
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squeezer said:
So here is a question for everyone saying this is 100% Biden’s fault...

Trump along with everyone else with a double digit IQ knew full well getting out of Afghanistan was going to be a train wreck. Virtually everything that was said in that 2012 segment was correct... That being the case what exactly was the better option?

I agree 100% that this was botched from the get to. It will likely cost the D’s both chambers in the midterms and lgive the R’s all three branches of the government in 2024.
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The better option, long term bases in Iraq and Afghanistan. That would have Iran covered and have a presence near Russia and China.
Biden pulled the rug out from under everyone without blinking, no plan, nothing was done correctly by any means. He's a total failure and this is his shining moment of his fking the US since 1973.
 
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