Anyone tow "heavy" with a 2014-2017 Silverado 1500 ?

[Andy01]

If I was towing long distance i'd spend the money on the bigger truck, if I was towing from my house to the launch ramp I could likely do it with a Chevy Colorado and a weight distributing hitch.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

View attachment 606024 The horror of it all...

Oh the humanity.

That is a good looking Raptor.

 

[ductape1000]

Crew Cab 4X4 Diesel dually, noted. I like the way you think.

I hear the f450 has a better turning radius. I would go with that one.

 

[Boat 405]

...and all the long bed crew cab guys laugh at the need for a slider hitch and lack of bedspace for a transfer tank!

All my trucks have been long bed 4x4 crew cab diesel 2500's cummins. Current one is 2007.5 6.7 cummins. Empty I set it on cruise to the river at 78mph and get 18mpg. I never have take if off cruise except for traffic. Towing I set it at 63 and do the exact same thing. Up the grade on 8 fwy west from the desert gets pretty steep. I see max of 1200 egt. Easiest truck I've ever towed with. I also buy used trucks, I've never bought a new truck, seems paying the current $65k and up for a new truck is stupid. Buy one a couple years old for $30ish and save on registration, and insurance.

 

[Racer56]

I may have to do this! Where are you located?

Victory and the 405. We can have a beer at springbok afterwards!

 

[n2otoofast4u]

29 Shockwave with a Tahoe two weeks ago. Making it go wasn't so bad, but SOB making it stop was an experience!

 

[spectras only]

Towed a 8.7K lb trailer for years with a V8 Grand Cherokee with the exception of the crappy Chrysler brakes, no issues at all.
That swore us off any Chrysler product.

towed my 8300lbs package with the 5.2L[ 318cu ] GC for a few years no problem what so ever. Only reason trading it for the Navigator was to be legal.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

29 Shockwave with a Tahoe two weeks ago. Making it go wasn't so bad, but SOB making it stop was an experience!

Making it stop is very fixable. More aggressive Truck/SUV brake pads will work wonders.

 

[spectras only]

29 Shockwave with a Tahoe two weeks ago. Making it go wasn't so bad, but SOB making it stop was an experience!

Is that Tahoe still comes with rear drum brakes,lol? Or, the brakes are weak on the trailer. Is the trailer equipped with surge brakes or electric? How many axles have brakes on the trailer? My newer trailer has electric brakes on both axles and it stops the boat/trailer [ 8300lbs ] no problem. Surge brake equipped trailers/boat tend to push a 6000lbs SUV around a bit.
I kid you not, my buddy's 35 Fountain came on a triple axle aluminum trailer with brakes on one axle. He had a 350 1T and it was pushed around a bit.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Is that Tahoe still comes with rear drum brakes,lol? Or, the brakes are weak on the trailer. Is the trailer equipped with surge brakes or electric? How many axles have brakes on the trailer? My newer trailer has electric brakes on both axles and it stops the boat/trailer [ 8300lbs ] no problem. Surge brake equipped trailers/boat tend to push a 6000lbs SUV around a bit.

All the Tahoe’s have rear disks, they just come with pedestrian soccer mom brake pads.

You could get into a situation if your trailer brakes aren’t adjusted correctly where the truck brakes will fade.

Some good pads that handle more heat will give more margin for error.

 

[n2otoofast4u]

Trailer brakes are surge on 2 axles, but work well. We rented the Tahoe at the airport to get us around town and launch/retrieve the boat. It worked for the week, just not sure I'd want to do it long term or at high speed.

 

[spectras only]

have a [ not for the faint of heart,lol ] story to tell that's happened about 8 years ago. One of our poker run veteran from Seattle, who has a 42 Outerlimits, towed his boat up behind a Tahoe EL. He had the proper truck [ Feightliner Sport chassie ]ordered for the boat but it wasn't ready for the deadline promised. He was a long time contributor to the Vancouver Poker Run and wouldn't want to miss a single event. It looked silly pulling that big azz boat with a SUV but he got lucky not being pulled over cruising through Vancouver downtown,lol.

 

[grumpy88]

Grab a 1/2 ton a six pack of cold beer and join us in the desert this weekend !

 

[GRADS]

29 Shockwave with a Tahoe two weeks ago. Making it go wasn't so bad, but SOB making it stop was an experience!

You are not allowed to post pictures of this boat ever again. Next time you are banned.

 

[Runs2rch]

Currently owning a 2005 Crew Cab Duramax long bed 4x4, a 2004 2500HD Single Cab long bed 6.0 and a 2017 1/2 ton crew cab short bed 4x4 I have to say there is no comparison in the towing of the 1/2 to the older 3/4 ton. My Duramax would still out tow and handle the 1/2 ton easy. To say a newer half ton is better than a older 3/4 ton is a uneducated statement.

Can you cross the country on a bicycle? Of course you can, doesn't mean you want to or it's safe lol!

Old gas 3/4 ton's. Not turbo Diesel. 6.5 diesel's are horrid also.

 

[GRADS]

My buddy pulled this boat all the way from Arizona to Sac with a 1500 gas Dodge. It's about 13,000 lbs. The truck in the picture is his new 2500 with a 6" lift to give you an idea how big the boat is.

 

[highvoltagehands]

My buddy pulled this boat all the way from Arizona to Sac with a 1500 gas Dodge. It's about 13,000 lbs. The truck in the picture is his new 2500 with a 6" lift to give you an idea how big the boat is.

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Probably safer towing with his 1/2 ton than 3/4 ton w/soft lift kit. Which the majority of aftermarket lifts are. Not sure if its concrete grade, lift kit or way trailers loaded, but SOB looks tongue heavvvvy.

 

[spectras only]

Looks like that Dodge could use some WDH for sure. Not surprised to see it sagging like that,lol.

 

[rivermobster]

I'm sure this would NEVER happen to anyone else, but it did happen to me...

Coming home from Oregon Dunes, somewhere up in NorCal. Kids are asleep in their car seats, wife is reading her book. I'm driving along 60 or so, cause we are going through a bit of traffic. A Cal Trans BIG truck pulls on to the freeway into the lane to my right. For whatever reason this fuck stick had, he decided to move into my lane (the number 3 lane) and pull right in front of me, and is only going about 25mph.

I stand on the brake pedal and lock up the wheels on my truck and the wheels on my toyhauler as well. There is no way I can change lanes, I barely had time to hit the brakes. I didn't run into the guy, but it scared the living fuck outa me. Wife almost had a shit fit as well, but the kids never even woke up.

Truck and trailer both did their job and stopped in a straight line with no issues.

If any of you guys think you could pull this off with your 1/2 tons, you'd be in for a big ass surprise, and who knows how your family would fare.

I spent probably forty minutes on the phone tracking down the Cal Trans dispatcher, to let him know what his driver pulled off. I hope that moron got fired for putting my family in danger. But as we all know, I doubt it.

But hell, no worries, this was a LONG time ago. You kids all tow with your 1/2 tons. No Way could this happen to you. Seriously, with all the safe drivers on the road these days, how could anything possibly go wrong, right? This shit only happens to other people.

**This has been a public service announcement**

Peace!

 

[4Waters]

If you are towing over weight and get in a wreck and someone dies it is a very detailed investigation epically if CHP is involved. If it's determined that the over weight was cause of the death your insurance company may not cover you. Get more truck than what you need

 

[lbhsbz]

29 Shockwave with a Tahoe two weeks ago. Making it go wasn't so bad, but SOB making it stop was an experience!

fix the trailer brakes.

 

[lbhsbz]

I stand on the brake pedal and lock up the wheels on my truck and the wheels on my toyhauler as well. There is no way I can change lanes, I barely had time to hit the brakes. I didn't run into the guy, but it scared the living fuck outa me. Wife almost had a shit fit as well, but the kids never even woke up.

Truck and trailer both did their job and stopped in a straight line with no issues.

Bull Shit. You cannot lock up all the wheels on a trailer like that and all the wheels on a truck and have it go in a straight line. I'd venture to say that you cannot lock up the brakes on your truck period...since it likely has ABS, unless you've disabled it.

If any of you guys think you could pull this off with your 1/2 tons, you'd be in for a big ass surprise, and who knows how your family would fare.

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Please explain how a lifted 3/4+ ton truck with all 4 wheels "locked up" outhandles ANYTHING that doesn't happen to have all 4 wheels locked (modern 1/2 ton with stability control/ABS) up such that the driver still has control over in what direction the thing is pointed?....I'm all ears.

Edit: There's also a slim chance in hell that the stock wheel end brake system even has the capability of locking up wheels and tires that big, unless you're one of those guys that airs 'em up to the MAX PRESSURE written on the sidewall....but then there's still the whole ABS thing

 

[spectras only]

I'm sure this would NEVER happen to anyone else, but it did happen to me...

Coming home from Oregon Dunes, somewhere up in NorCal. Kids are asleep in their car seats, wife is reading her book. I'm driving along 60 or so, cause we are going through a bit of traffic. A Cal Trans BIG truck pulls on to the freeway into the lane to my right. For whatever reason this fuck stick had, he decided to move into my lane (the number 3 lane) and pull right in front of me, and is only going about 25mph.

I stand on the brake pedal and lock up the wheels on my truck and the wheels on my toyhauler as well. There is no way I can change lanes, I barely had time to hit the brakes. I didn't run into the guy, but it scared the living fuck outa me. Wife almost had a shit fit as well, but the kids never even woke up.

Truck and trailer both did their job and stopped in a straight line with no issues.

If any of you guys think you could pull this off with your 1/2 tons, you'd be in for a big ass surprise, and who knows how your family would fare.

I spent probably forty minutes on the phone tracking down the Cal Trans dispatcher, to let him know what his driver pulled off. I hope that moron got fired for putting my family in danger. But as we all know, I doubt it.

But hell, no worries, this was a LONG time ago. You kids all tow with your 1/2 tons. No Way could this happen to you. Seriously, with all the safe drivers on the road these days, how could anything possibly go wrong, right? This shit only happens to other people.

**This has been a public service announcement**

Peace!


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You comparing your higher max tow capacity 350 to 150 with lower max tow capacity,lol.
Both vehicles need to meet the same distance of 80 feet to stop from 20 mph! Are you suggesting we should overload our 1/2 tons and stop the same as your 1 ton with your TH, jeeeesh! Sticking to the recommended max trailer weight, my 1/2 stops great. Had my share of crazy drivers cutting me off left & right, hasn't bumped into anyone so far, lucky ehem you'd say. I'm a 70 yr old kid with only ca 50 yrs of towing experience. I'm all ears, learning something new.
BTW, LBHSBZ has a point, you could lock up the trailer's brakes [ sans ABS ] if the gain control is set high in the truck but the truck's brakes would modulate. Did this happen with an old dinosaur truck of yours without ABS or with the truck in your picture?

 

[wsuwrhr]

If you are towing over weight and get in a wreck and someone dies it is a very detailed investigation epically if CHP is involved. If it's determined that the over weight was cause of the death your insurance company may not cover you. Get more truck than what you need

.....and may also go to jail for manslaughter.

Sadly, this happened to someone I know. Prolly around early '00-'02. They were bebopping along to Glamis and a car pulls in front of them and then breaked hard. Apparently called a "swoop and stop or swoop and squat", I don't remember exactly.

Generally speaking, you end up rearending the shitheads car and the occupants in that car claim medical and get paid by the insurance. Only this time, he was towing a big heavy 5th, with a lifted truck, overweight, damn near drove over the top of the car. Out of the four in the car, I think only one or two peeps survived. In the criminal case under cross exam they TESTIFIED they INTENDED to cause a wreck for insurance purposes and the defendant still got negligent manslaughter because they were grossly overweight.

The shitheads also sued civilly, since there was no insurance because the claim was denied, and the shitheads at least lost the civil case.

Brian

 

[lake p.a.l.]

.....and may also go to jail for manslaughter.

Sadly, this happened to someone I know. Prolly around early '00-'02. They were bebopping along to Glamis and a car pulls in front of them and then breaked hard. Apparently called a "swoop and stop or swoop and squat", I don't remember exactly.

Generally speaking, you end up rearending the shitheads car and the occupants in that car claim medical and get paid by the insurance. Only this time, he was towing a big heavy 5th, with a lifted truck, overweight, damn near drove over the top of the car. Out of the four in the car, I think only one or two peeps survived. In the criminal case under cross exam they TESTIFIED they INTENDED to cause a wreck for insurance purposes and the defendant still got negligent manslaughter because they were grossly overweight.

The shitheads also sued civilly, since there was no insurance because the claim was denied, and the shitheads at least lost the civil case.

Brian

Just another reason I have electric brakes on my boat trailer AND I'm getting at least a 3/4 ton truck. Sorry for your friend.

 

[wsuwrhr]

Just another reason I have electric brakes on my boat trailer AND I'm getting at least a 3/4 ton truck. Sorry for your friend.

Idiots or not, they look for people with boats and toy trailers cause "obviously" they have money, and insurance for them as well.

It was an eye opener for sure.

 

[wsuwrhr]

Just another reason I have electric brakes on my boat trailer AND I'm getting at least a 3/4 ton truck. Sorry for your friend.

Forced everyone in the group to sell their F250s and buy 350s and 450s overnight.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I’m sorry for your friend Brian, but there is a difference in towing near the limit and grossly over the limit of your vehicle.

Sounds like instead of a 3/4 ton truck you should just buy a dash cam.

 

[Bigbore500r]

My F350 long bed crew cab long bed came with a fifty gallon tank from the factory.

Silly chebbys.

I'm talking about a transfer tank to fill the sandcar and toys silly

 

[28Eliminator]

I'm sure this would NEVER happen to anyone else, but it did happen to me...

Coming home from Oregon Dunes, somewhere up in NorCal. Kids are asleep in their car seats, wife is reading her book. I'm driving along 60 or so, cause we are going through a bit of traffic. A Cal Trans BIG truck pulls on to the freeway into the lane to my right. For whatever reason this fuck stick had, he decided to move into my lane (the number 3 lane) and pull right in front of me, and is only going about 25mph.

I stand on the brake pedal and lock up the wheels on my truck and the wheels on my toyhauler as well. There is no way I can change lanes, I barely had time to hit the brakes. I didn't run into the guy, but it scared the living fuck outa me. Wife almost had a shit fit as well, but the kids never even woke up.

Truck and trailer both did their job and stopped in a straight line with no issues.

If any of you guys think you could pull this off with your 1/2 tons, you'd be in for a big ass surprise, and who knows how your family would fare.

I spent probably forty minutes on the phone tracking down the Cal Trans dispatcher, to let him know what his driver pulled off. I hope that moron got fired for putting my family in danger. But as we all know, I doubt it.

But hell, no worries, this was a LONG time ago. You kids all tow with your 1/2 tons. No Way could this happen to you. Seriously, with all the safe drivers on the road these days, how could anything possibly go wrong, right? This shit only happens to other people.

**This has been a public service announcement**

Peace!


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Have you even read any of the posts in here?

Nobody's talking about towing MORE WEIGHT than what a 1/2 ton is rated to tow.. whatever it might be. If you're towing 15k, get a truck rated to tow that much, if you're towing 8k, get a truck rated to tow that much. If you want to tow 15k load with a truck rated to tow 8k, then your a dumb ass..

BTW... My boat and trailer are approx 7500lbs. My truck is RATED TO TOW 8500 lbs. You know what that means? it means that people much smarter and with a lot more information than you (and I) have determined that my truck can safely tow my boat. It also means that a 3/4 ton truck is not necessary for that particular load...

 

[Runs2rch]

I’m sorry for your friend Brian, but there is a difference in towing near the limit and grossly over the limit of your vehicle.

Sounds like instead of a 3/4 ton truck you should just buy a dash cam.

You could be in a Peterbuilt and not stop. Even driving as safe as possible. People are the issue. Like you said near the limit vs grossly over loaded.

Big difference!

 

[Runs2rch]

Have you even read any of the posts in here?

Nobody's talking about towing MORE WEIGHT than what a 1/2 ton is rated to tow.. whatever it might be. If you're towing 15k, get a truck rated to tow that much, if you're towing 8k, get a truck rated to tow that much. If you want to tow 15k load with a truck rated to tow 8k, then your a dumb ass..

BTW... My boat and trailer are approx 7500lbs. My truck is RATED TO TOW 8500 lbs. You know what that means? it means that people much smarter and with a lot more information than you (and I) have determined that my truck can safely tow my boat. It also means that a 3/4 ton truck is not necessary for that particular load...

Well said!

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Bull Shit. You cannot lock up all the wheels on a trailer like that and all the wheels on a truck and have it go in a straight line. I'd venture to say that you cannot lock up the brakes on your truck period...since it likely has ABS, unless you've disabled it.



Please explain how a lifted 3/4+ ton truck with all 4 wheels "locked up" outhandles ANYTHING that doesn't happen to have all 4 wheels locked (modern 1/2 ton with stability control/ABS) up such that the driver still has control over in what direction the thing is pointed?....I'm all ears.

Edit: There's also a slim chance in hell that the stock wheel end brake system even has the capability of locking up wheels and tires that big, unless you're one of those guys that airs 'em up to the MAX PRESSURE written on the sidewall....but then there's still the whole ABS thing

Not only all of that, he has decreased the handling ability and likely towing ability and certainly raised the center of gravity by raising the truck.

If it had ABS it was just “chirping” the tires on the edge of lockup... so are we saying that the truck worked as intended while towing under the limit of the vehicle?

 

[Runs2rch]

Not only all of that, he has decreased the handling ability and likely towing ability and certainly raised the center of gravity by raising the truck.

If it had ABS it was just “chirping” the tires on the edge of lockup... so are we saying that the truck worked as intended while towing under the limit of the vehicle?

Also the 37's or 38's on the truck weigh 120-130 a corner with wheel. The superduty brakes from 99-07 were crap. I couldn't lock them up on my lightnings.

 

[wsuwrhr]

I’m sorry for your friend Brian, but there is a difference in towing near the limit and grossly over the limit of your vehicle.

Sounds like instead of a 3/4 ton truck you should just buy a dash cam.

Im not defending them, either in sorrow or because I know them. They are friends of a good client of mine. Just stating what can happen when "shit happens". There are many sides to the story why peeps in here are stating their opinions in this discussion.

As well as, you all know, in a court of law, right and wrong don't matter much.

Dash cam wouldn't have helped much since they ADMITTED what they did.

The funny thing is, as silly as it sounds, I am not sure what they were doing was illegal, per se, I think the law reads you are supposed to "maintain a safe following distance to avoid an accident"....or verbiage to that effect.

 

[wsuwrhr]

Have you even read any of the posts in here?

Nobody's talking about towing MORE WEIGHT than what a 1/2 ton is rated to tow.. whatever it might be. If you're towing 15k, get a truck rated to tow that much, if you're towing 8k, get a truck rated to tow that much. If you want to tow 15k load with a truck rated to tow 8k, then your a dumb ass..

BTW... My boat and trailer are approx 7500lbs. My truck is RATED TO TOW 8500 lbs. You know what that means? it means that people much smarter and with a lot more information than you (and I) have determined that my truck can safely tow my boat. It also means that a 3/4 ton truck is not necessary for that particular load...

Just because someone SAYS it is safe, still doesn't mean it is a good idea. Which in the point I was making with MPG. Just because they SAY it will get it, doesn't mean it necessarily will.

 

[Bigbore500r]

This thread delivers! Not sure what....but it delivers!

 

[Bigbore500r]

Just because someone SAYS it is safe, still doesn't mean it is a good idea. Which in the point I was making with MPG. Just because they SAY it will get it, doesn't mean it necessarily will.

Dave has towed his eagle behind his raptor a bunch, and he hasn't even died once.

 

[wsuwrhr]

Dave has towed his eagle behind his raptor a bunch, and he hasn't even died once.

Yep, usually peeps only get to do that once. Hell of a thing to laugh about, no doubt.

I know 28E and I know you as well, we are just talkin in here. Don't mean youre wrong, don't mean Im wrong, don't mean 28e is wrong, bud.

 

[28Eliminator]

Also the 37's or 38's on the truck weigh 120-130 a corner with wheel. The superduty brakes from 99-07 were crap. I couldn't lock them up on my lightnings.

Yep. I had a 2002 Excursion and the brakes were horrible. It was way scarier towing my boat with it, than my Raptor. The raptor accelerates way harder, a lot more torque, and stops 100% better than the excursion ever did. Proof the new 1/2 tons are much better than even the older 3/4 ton chasis.

Just because someone SAYS it is safe, still doesn't mean it is a good idea. Which in the point I was making with MPG. Just because they SAY it will get it, doesn't mean it necessarily will.

Leave MPG out of this.. were talking safety here pal.

I would lean more towards trusting the automotive engineers and SAE than a bunch of "keyboard cowboy know it all's"

Dave has towed his eagle behind his raptor a bunch, and he hasn't even died once.

Mind boggling isn't it

 

[LakeBeard]

I don't have any issues w/ my 1500, even

going over the grapevine or the Cajon pass

 

[lake p.a.l.]

Have you even read any of the posts in here?

Nobody's talking about towing MORE WEIGHT than what a 1/2 ton is rated to tow.. whatever it might be. If you're towing 15k, get a truck rated to tow that much, if you're towing 8k, get a truck rated to tow that much. If you want to tow 15k load with a truck rated to tow 8k, then your a dumb ass..

BTW... My boat and trailer are approx 7500lbs. My truck is RATED TO TOW 8500 lbs. You know what that means? it means that people much smarter and with a lot more information than you (and I) have determined that my truck can safely tow my boat. It also means that a 3/4 ton truck is not necessary for that particular load...

I'm not trying to ruffle any feathers or piss anyone off. My boat empty on the trailer weighs almost 7000lbs. Very rarely do I fill up the boat but that's another 1200lbs so we are at 8200lbs. Add in 150lbs of gear and crap in the boat = 8350lbs Add the coolers, wifes crap, friends crap and 5 people in the truck +/- another 1000lbs = 9450lbs
Yes, every 1/2 ton on the market right now is rated to tow that amount. I have a launch ramp 1/2 mile from my house that I use 90% of the time we take our boat out. We plan to travel with the boat to some events away from Northern CA this year. I may end up putting a golf cart in the bed of the truck for some of those trips so that would add 1000lbs. Then I would be 10,450lbs. Once again, almost every 1/2 ton would do it but I wouldn't feel safe. Just my old fat guy opinion.

 

[wsuwrhr]

Yep. I had a 2002 Excursion and the brakes were horrible. It was way scarier towing my boat with it, than my Raptor. The raptor accelerates way harder, a lot more torque, and stops 100% better than the excursion ever did. Proof the new 1/2 tons are much better than even the older 3/4 ton chasis.



Leave MPG out of this.. were talking safety here pal.

I would lean more towards trusting the automotive engineers and SAE than a bunch of "keyboard cowboy know it all's"



Mind boggling isn't it

Noted.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

I'm not trying to ruffle any feathers or piss anyone off. My boat empty on the trailer weighs almost 7000lbs. Very rarely do I fill up the boat but that's another 1200lbs so we are at 8200lbs. Add in 150lbs of gear and crap in the boat = 8350lbs Add the coolers, wifes crap, friends crap and 5 people in the truck +/- another 1000lbs = 9450lbs
Yes, every 1/2 ton on the market right now is rated to tow that amount. I have a launch ramp 1/2 mile from my house that I use 90% of the time we take our boat out. We plan to travel with the boat to some events away from Northern CA this year. I may end up putting a golf cart in the bed of the truck for some of those trips so that would add 1000lbs. Then I would be 10,450lbs. Once again, almost every 1/2 ton would do it but I wouldn't feel safe. Just my old fat guy opinion.

Your bigger issue with the load you described would be the tongue weight with the payload. That 10,000# you just described would be divided up between the truck and trailer but that also sounds like over 2k lbs payload between the bed load and the likely tongue weight.

 

[pronstar]

If you are towing over weight and get in a wreck and someone dies it is a very detailed investigation epically if CHP is involved. If it's determined that the over weight was cause of the death your insurance company may not cover you. Get more truck than what you need

FUD
This has never happened.
And there are a shitload of blue-hairs on RV.net who've been looking for proof for years...

Your insurance even covers you when you're drunk driving at 50mph over the speed limit. Of course, they'll also drop you.

Look at your policy exclusions. Things that are not covered are explicitly spelled-out.

That's not to say you can't be civilly liable, tho.


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[pronstar]

I'm sure this would NEVER happen to anyone else, but it did happen to me...

Coming home from Oregon Dunes, somewhere up in NorCal. Kids are asleep in their car seats, wife is reading her book. I'm driving along 60 or so, cause we are going through a bit of traffic. A Cal Trans BIG truck pulls on to the freeway into the lane to my right. For whatever reason this fuck stick had, he decided to move into my lane (the number 3 lane) and pull right in front of me, and is only going about 25mph.

I stand on the brake pedal and lock up the wheels on my truck and the wheels on my toyhauler as well. There is no way I can change lanes, I barely had time to hit the brakes. I didn't run into the guy, but it scared the living fuck outa me. Wife almost had a shit fit as well, but the kids never even woke up.

Truck and trailer both did their job and stopped in a straight line with no issues.

If any of you guys think you could pull this off with your 1/2 tons, you'd be in for a big ass surprise, and who knows how your family would fare.

Joe, this exact test is part of the SAE tow-rating procedure...?


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[NicPaus]

X2 I have never heard of insurance not covering a claim cause of weight. Years ago one of my agents borrowed my dump trailer. Hauled 7 tons to the dump with his Tahoe. He just laughed and said it damn near took a city block to stop. Trailer weighs 3340lbs so he was towing around 17,500 lbs. I have topped that load many times with a dually. Loaded it now to test out the new 3/4 ton.

 

[rivermobster]

Bull Shit. You cannot lock up all the wheels on a trailer like that and all the wheels on a truck and have it go in a straight line. I'd venture to say that you cannot lock up the brakes on your truck period...since it likely has ABS, unless you've disabled it.

Please explain how a lifted 3/4+ ton truck with all 4 wheels "locked up" outhandles ANYTHING that doesn't happen to have all 4 wheels locked (modern 1/2 ton with stability control/ABS) up such that the driver still has control over in what direction the thing is pointed?....I'm all ears.

Edit: There's also a slim chance in hell that the stock wheel end brake system even has the capability of locking up wheels and tires that big, unless you're one of those guys that airs 'em up to the MAX PRESSURE written on the sidewall....but then there's still the whole ABS thing

So you're saying I make the whole story up?? lol

You kids are funny, you think you KNOW everything! And if you've never seen it, it didn't happen. Oh to be young and dumb.

Listen up, and I'll explain it to you...

Its called WEIGT. My truck weighs almost 8k EMPTY! What does a modern half ton weigh? Maybe half of that if your lucky?? Weight on the tires equals friction. Friction where the rubber meets the road, and this friend is everything. You put a 10k trailer behind a 4k lb truck, and what do you think will happen?? You're gonna bash right into the fuck face that cut you off. The trailer will shove you right into the car in front of you. And there wont be a dam thing you can do about it. Except cry to somebody, "but my truck is rated for it!" I'm sure your insurance company has never heard that story before.

Yes, my dinosaur has ABS on the rear. Yes, I run the tires maxed out when I'm towing (they need to be maxed to support the weight, read your tire info and see).

Some of you may not know this, but a vehicle with ABS will take more distance to stop than a non ABS vehicle in a full panic stop. The ONLY advantage ABS gives you is the ability to steer during a full panic stop.

What have we learned to far then? My dinosaur, cause it weighs so much, will stop in much shorter distance than any four wheel ABS half ton truck, because there is more friction between the tire and the road. Simple when you think about it.

And if you don't wanna think about it, take your new truck and make two panic stops, one with the ABS on, and one with the ABS off. We all had to do this back in the day during dealership training when ABS first came out. They NEEDED us to understand how it worked. We spent half the day in the classroom and half the day at the track. We all learned a lot that day.

I run good brake pads and forged wheels and E rated 8 ply on the tread tires. I run LT tires on my trailer as well, and the biggest tire I could fit on the trailer also to max out the capacity.

And lastly, this whole thread is about towing WAY over weight! lol

I challenge ALL of you to take your truck (with boat or trailer attached) to the scale, post up with the results (yes, they will give you a detailed print out) and then post up the specs of your truck. I'll bet that most of you, that even if you are within the towing spec on your truck, your over on the GCVWR. And this particular spec is the one that matters the most.

 

[wsuwrhr]

So you're saying I make the whole story up?? lol

You kids are funny, you think you KNOW everything! And if you've never seen it, it didn't happen. Oh to be young and dumb.

Listen up, and I'll explain it to you...

Its called WEIGT.

Its actually called WEIGHT, RM

 

[rivermobster]

Its actually called WEIGHT, RM

Fucking grammar police....