Anyone tow "heavy" with a 2014-2017 Silverado 1500 ?

[spectras only]

2014 F-150 3.5 Eco, max tow , 502a package, 3.73 gear, GCVW 17.100 lbs. WD capacity 11.300 lbs, tongue load 1.130 lbs.
Tows great on 7-9% grades. Transmission temp gage never waivered from the center. Trailer is a Dutchmen two slides, weighs 7800 lbs dry, 9600 loaded.

 

[ToMorrow44]

Never can have too much truck.

Agreed

 

[Stainless]

Another vote for 3/4 ton based on the OP’s scenario. Skimming the thread all the reasons where brought up and in case this wasn’t, Heat. I wouldn’t want to be on the fringe with air temps in excess of 100 degrees and towing. Consider most 1/2 tons come with P metric tires, gearing higher than 3.73 and smaller capacity cooling systems which is vital to the tranny.

 

[boatpi]

You ability to tow 10K is very closely related to tire diameter and gear ratio. Ply close attention to both along with final trans gear OD percentage. Tire speed at 60 MPH/engine RPM is a factor. Use 3.73's and put 33" tires on this and I bet you are screwed. Tall tires flex, use common sense.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Probably nothing....i'm too cheap lol. But I love kicking tires! Hard to replace something that isn't broken and paid for

Why not keep flooring the truck you have up graded?

Oh and you are a shitty human being for putting us all at risk while towing within the limits of your current or new vehicle. If you cared about your family you’d buy a topkick to tow your crap around.

And suck it up. New trucks are expensive.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

2014 F-150 3.5 Eco, max tow , 502a package, 3.73 gear, GCVW 17.100 lbs. WD capacity 11.300 lbs, tongue load 1.130 lbs.
Tows great on 7-9% grades. Transmission temp gage never waivered from the center. Trailer is a Dutchmen two slides, weighs 7800 lbs dry, 9600 loaded.

You are a menace to society.

 

[Big B Hova]

I am sure I am in the minority here.

Sounds scary to me with a 1/2 ton, especially with my most prized possessions on board. Second, you will be lap traffic, and in the way of everyone, going up any type of incline.

My 07 halfton vmax had more horsepower than the same year 2500 gas chevy truck..... so this is not true!

 

[Andy01]

I just picked up a 2017 1/2 ton from jason Holley. Love the truck for daily use, even towing the ski boat it is great. 10,000 pounds?? F'K that!! I towed a couple times around havasu with more weight then I liked and it was likely 6,500 pounds. On the 95 with wind I was good at 50. I'd never give up my duramax for a 1/2 ton. You get into trouble with that 1/2 ton and 10,000 pounds you'll wish you had a heavy truck, especially when your families life is in your hands.


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[rivermobster]

I’m just curious, those that had issues towing heavy trailers with a half ton were you using properly adjusted weight distributing hitch?

I see a Lot of people towing with half tons without one.

I was.

The Durango is a big pos, but it was rated for way more weight than I had on the hitch. Has a factory tow package and 4:11 gears. All signs pointed to yes.

The reality was, no way.

Numbers on a piece of paper do Not tell the real story of how something will perform in the real world.

The GCVWR on my 1 ton truck is 20k. I am 19.8 on scale with my loaded toy hauler. My truck alone is 7800 on the scale empty.

A loaded 26ft toy hauler is one Heavy son of a bitch...

 

[bk2drvr]

I've always wondered how much guard band the manufacturer puts on their towing specs. Say a truck is rated to tow 10k lbs by the manufacturer, certainly it doesn't fail at 10,001lbs. There MUST be a formula for this. Knowing what sort of head room the manufacturer uses would be a valuable piece of information.

There is no way the manufacturers puts themselves close to the edge on this spec.

 

[Flyinbowtie]

I am assuming that 10k number you are operating is the max gross of the trailer when ready to go and based on the max the trailer is rated for.
In my experience assuming dry weight stickers on RV's are accurate is a mistake. Every one I have ever owned was heavier dry than the factory claimed, and more dry weight means less payload.
We had an Arctic Fox 990 cabover that had a claimed dry weight of 3300 lbs.That camper was closer to 4000 lbs. empty. Add water, groceries, etc and was knocking on 5k.
Load yours up like you normally would for a trip...everything on board, toys, tools, chow, ice chests, firewood, etc, and go to a CAT scale and weigh it....each axle and combined. You might be pleasantly surprised, ya might not.
I never once was pleasantly surprised.

I know the new half ton trucks are now rated as old 3/4 tons were, truly wonder trucks. I also see them on Donner Pass towing max, or more, and they don't look so happy.
Neither do the drivers.

If you are only going to use the truck once or twice a year and want to roll the dice then it is your choice to do it. I wouldn't. Not with my grandkids riding in the back seat.
I understand your goal, and desire to cut down on the rolling stock in the driveway and the associated costs. Especially with the new car tax Jerry has stuck everyone with.

I have a 2007 Dodge 3500HD 4x4 quad cab long bed dually, before that a Ford 350 dually.
I don't drive the big truck every day, I run around in an old Tacoma with 320k on the clock, but when I back under that 15,000 lb 5th wheel, and head up the hill, it is a stress free trip, and there is a lot to say for that.



Just another old man with an opinion..

 

[Runs2rch]

Tires/suspension is key. Have a 14 5.3 crew cab 4wd. Running 5100's and e rated bfg's. We pull a 33 hallett. Probably 11k I guess on the trailer.

It does the job too and from the ramp. Going down the 95 to Havasu 55mph is perfect. The power and braking is solid. The weight of the truck needs to be more when it gets windy out. The brakes on the 14 up 1500 trucks are larger than the 99-13 2500's.

All of the new half ton trucks are very capable. I sold my Dmax for a 17 6.2 Silverado.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I’d like to know how you know the truck and driver are not happy climbing a grade. Was the driver’s family holding a sign that said help? Was the truck on fire? Was the truck and trailer being towed uphill with another truck?

The new “wonder trucks” can tow more than ten year old trucks because they are better trucks than 10 year old 3/4 tons. They have stiffer frames, better suspension, bigger brakes, more horsepower and bigger cooling systems. Are they a solution for towing 10000 lbs every weekend? No. But towing carefully near their limit several times a year, they will be fine.

Floor the truck and it will go up the hill.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Tires/suspension is key. Have a 14 5.3 crew cab 4wd. Running 5100's and e rated bfg's. We pull a 33 hallett. Probably 11k I guess on the trailer.

It does the job too and from the ramp. Going down the 95 to Havasu 55mph is perfect. The power and braking is solid. The weight of the truck needs to be more when it gets windy out. The brakes on the 14 up 1500 trucks are larger than the 99-13 2500's.

All of the new half ton trucks are very capable. I sold my Dmax for a 17 6.2 Silverado.

You must have a death wish

 

[Runs2rch]

You must have a death wish

HA!

Seriously though the truck gets it done pretty effortlessly. Trans temp in check 190 max in 90 ambient. Even in 100 plus temp it never goes over 200.

Trailer brake controller, trailer has brakes on each axle. Roll on the throttle it moves it fine, ease on the brakes it stops it fine. Of course pulling it out of the water I use 4wd and creep out.

Like I said in crosswind towing 55mph is fine. One hand on the wheel no issues.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

HA!

Seriously though the truck gets it done pretty effortlessly. Trans temp in check 190 max in 90 ambient. Even in 100 plus temp it never goes over 200.

Trailer brake controller, trailer has brakes on each axle. Roll on the throttle it moves it fine, ease on the brakes it stops it fine. Of course pulling it out of the water I use 4wd and creep out.

Like I said in crosswind towing 55mph is fine. One hand on the wheel no issues.

I’m sure it is perfectly fine.

I max tow my 4Runner at about 5000 lbs and it does just fine. Even in 100+ degree temps up grades.

 

[spectras only]

You are a menace to society.

Why is that? I'm well within the safety margins calculated by those silly Ford engineers who rated my truck,lol. Margin I have is 1900 lbs, take another 960 lbs for tongue weight and another 400lbs for me and wife and some junk in the cab. I'm not one of those silly people travelling 70+ pulling a house behind the truck. I make up for the need for speed in my car,hehe.
If it was a Dodge 1500, that would be different. Like the 5.7 Hemi, don't trust their frames,lol.

 

[Flyinbowtie]

How do I know they are not happy?

I pay attention to the attitude of the trailer and truck or motohome as it is moving down the road. I frequently see overstrained WD hitches, and drivers riding the brake pedal down hill, because the trailer is pushing the tow vehicle. I can hear the engine pinned in a lower gear up hill and as we pass them my wife has more than once commented, "that guy looks stressed out honey, get around him"
I've seen the involuntary lane changes when the trailer hit by a crosswind decides it wants to move over, and the truck doesn't have enough mass or contact with the road to stop it.
I have also been to a few grinders involving overloaded towing RV's, where there is crap scattered across the highway from the demolished RV and a ruined truck hooked to it. I know they are not happy due to the money they are seeing go down the tubes.
I know they are not happy cause CHP is fixing to ruin their day.
Unfortunately, I have been to one of these where people left in an ambulance.
I know they were not happy.

I've called for the tow truck myself once or twice, grenaded transmissions because people assumed the "Tow Package" trans cooler was sufficient, etc. ad nauseum.


(By the way you can't beat Good Sams towing policy for RV's.)

Again, just one old man with an opinion based on a wee bit of experience with this crap, and been up and over the Sierras
a few (hundred) times.

 

[rivermobster]

I've always wondered how much guard band the manufacturer puts on their towing specs. Say a truck is rated to tow 10k lbs by the manufacturer, certainly it doesn't fail at 10,001lbs. There MUST be a formula for this. Knowing what sort of head room the manufacturer uses would be a valuable piece of information.

There is no way the manufacturers puts themselves close to the edge on this spec.

What they do is give you the Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating, and expect YOU to calculate from there. This spec has the final say.

Example...

You take your truck to the scale. Full of fuel, tools, firewood, and all the crap you normally take with you camping or boating or what what ever you like to do. Don't forget to throw bodies and clothes in there too.

Lets' say the truck weighs 10k loaded up. (don't get all worked up, it's just an easy example, because I fucking HATE math!)

Let's say the GCVWR is 20k

In this example, your towing capacity is no 10klb, even if the stated tow rating is 15k lb.

The GCVWR is the final say. Regardless of what the tow rating is.

Make sense?

 

[spectras only]

Load the truck and camper to the hill. Take it to a commercial scale [ most trusted for accuracy ] and if you are below the GCVW rating of your rig , you're legal. There's no law what speed you have to maintain going on steep grades. We have all the trucks here going uphills with 9% grades with their flashers at a turtle's speed in the canyons. It infuriates a lot of people when there's no passing lane, just suck it up and relax until the passing lane comes up. I have no problem maintaining a good clip with the Ecoboost, either pulling my boat or the TT. Even passing some slackers on the road,lol. Most accidents pulling a brick happens when people are over confident, over speeding, and don't listen to local weather reports. I don't care if you have an F550, a serious gust of crosswind in an open area can blow you off the road.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

What they do is give you the Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating, and expect YOU to calculate from there. This spec has the final say.

Example...

You take your truck to the scale. Full of fuel, tools, firewood, and all the crap you normally take with you camping or boating or what what ever you like to do. Don't forget to throw bodies and clothes in there too.

Lets' say the truck weighs 10k loaded up. (don't get all worked up, it's just an easy example, because I fucking HATE math!)

Let's say the GCVWR is 20k

In this example, your towing capacity is no 10klb, even if the stated tow rating is 15k lb.

The GCVWR is the final say. Regardless of what the tow rating is.

Make sense?

Ouf of all the bullshit in this thread, this is the absolute most acurate and truthful thing posted.

Tag trailers (specially toy haulers) push around any truck short of a 1 ton dually or bigger when hit with a crosswind. To minimize it, you need to habe the proper weight distribution hitch with intigraded PREVENTATIVE sway control. The old school friction bars are just a reactive sway control measure. Stopping the sway before it starts makes a huge difference.

I havent looked into it myself but i habe been told there are a few airbag kits that will increase the GCVWR of the truck when installed. Like i said, it is second hand info for that but if true, coukd help as well.

 

[Singleton]

Load the truck and camper to the hill. Take it to a commercial scale [ most trusted for accuracy ] and if you are below the GCVW rating of your rig , you're legal. There's no law what speed you have to maintain going on steep grades. We have all the trucks here going uphills with 9% grades with their flashers at a turtle's speed in the canyons. It infuriates a lot of people when there's no passing lane, just suck it up and relax until the passing lane comes up. I have no problem maintaining a good clip with the Ecoboost, either pulling my boat or the TT. Even passing some slackers on the road,lol. Most accidents pulling a brick happens when people are over confident, over speeding, and don't listen to local weather reports. I don't care if you have an F550, a serious gust of crosswind in an open area can blow you off the road.

Bringing logic to the topic. I need to find a scale and get me truck and trailer with and without Jeep inside weighed.
I usually just take my time and slow down when I feel unsafe. Speed kills when you have a heavy load behind you.

 

[spectras only]

Ouf of all the bullshit in this thread, this is the absolute most acurate and truthful thing posted.

Tag trailers (specially toy haulers) push around any truck short of a 1 ton dually or bigger when hit with a crosswind. To minimize it, you need to habe the proper weight distribution hitch with intigraded PREVENTATIVE sway control. The old school friction bars are just a reactive sway control measure. Stopping the sway before it starts makes a huge difference.

I havent looked into it myself but i habe been told there are a few airbag kits that will increase the GCVWR of the truck when installed. Like i said, it is second hand info for that but if true, coukd help as well.

adding an aftermarket airbag [ I have one installed on my truck ] will absolutely won't increase the GCVWR, legally. It will help stabilize the truck more, I even like it on curvy roads when not towing. Trailer hitch receivers have the max tongue weight rating [ mine is 1100lbs ] stickers that's also you have to keep in mind to follow.

I use WDH [ rated 1200 ] and two swaybars .The truck has factory electronic sway control
but I believe in redundancy. In the the picture I posted above before, did'nt have the WDH hooked up, only had the airbags with 20.psi to show how level the truck is with 960 lbs tongue weight.

 

[rivermobster]

I have air bags and a WD hitch. I've never felt I needed any sway control.

Sway (trailer wagging) is due to not enough tongue weight. Properly loading the trailer is key.

The only rating you can increase is the weight a hitch will hold.

A weight distribution hitch will effectively double the rating of the hitch. Most hitches have this info stamped into them.

 

[pronstar]

1500
2500
3500
Half-ton
One-ton

These are meaningless numbers, no more relevant than Venti or Grande at Starbucks.

What's the vehicle rated to tow?




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[Flying_Lavey]

adding an aftermarket airbag [ I have one installed on my truck ] will absolutely won't increase the GCVWR, legally. It will help stabilize the truck more, I even like it on curvy roads when not towing. Trailer hitch receivers have the max tongue weight rating [ mine is 1100lbs ] stickers that's also you have to keep in mind to follow.

I use WDH [ rated 1200 ] and two swaybars .The truck has factory electronic sway control
but I believe in redundancy. In the the picture I posted above before, did'nt have the WDH hooked up, only had the airbags with 20.psi to show how level the truck is with 960 lbs tongue weight.

Like i said, it was second hand info. Supposedly the kit he bought came with some certification that said it did increase the GCVWR. But, i never saw it nor did i get the brand of kit he bought. Mostly because i doubted him as well.

I have air bags and a WD hitch. I've never felt I needed any sway control.

Sway (trailer wagging) is due to not enough tongue weight. Properly loading the trailer is key.

The only rating you can increase is the weight a hitch will hold.

A weight distribution hitch will effectively double the rating of the hitch. Most hitches have this info stamped into them.

That is not true. Wind causes as much or more trailer sway than imporper trailer loading. Preventative sway control systems is one of the best things to have when towing a substantial load.

Also, if you read the owners manual for the tow ratings, there is typically a note on the ratings that state over X,XXX pounds a weight distribution hitch is required.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Why is that? I'm well within the safety margins calculated by those silly Ford engineers who rated my truck,lol. Margin I have is 1900 lbs, take another 960 lbs for tongue weight and another 400lbs for me and wife and some junk in the cab. I'm not one of those silly people travelling 70+ pulling a house behind the truck. I make up for the need for speed in my car,hehe.
If it was a Dodge 1500, that would be different. Like the 5.7 Hemi, don't trust their frames,lol.

You missed the sarcasm

 

[rivermobster]

That is not true. Wind causes as much or more trailer sway than imporper trailer loading. Preventative sway control systems is one of the best things to have when towing a substantial load.

Also, if you read the owners manual for the tow ratings, there is typically a note on the ratings that state over X,XXX pounds a weight distribution hitch is required.

We will agree to disagree then...

Why? If you load your trailer with too little tongue weight, it will sway with NO wind at all.

If you load your trailer with enough tongue weight, the likelyhood of trailer sway is nil.

I've towed my toy hauler for Thousands of miles, and drivin in the worst cross winds you'll ever see. My whole rig never moves in the wind. It's all about how much tongue weight you run, and if your truck/hitch can deal with that weight. I run a Class IV reciever with a WD hitch. I have no issues at all.

A weight distribution hitch is just that. It distributes the weight to front wheels and takes some of the weight off the rear axle. This effect doubles the capacity of the hitch. IF you have a truck with a tow package from the factory, that info you speak of MIGHT be in the truck owners manual, then again, it might not. A lot of hitches/recievers are dealer installed.

If you are adding a hitch to whatever you have (truck, motor home, van, etc...), you'll need to use the instructions that came with the hitch/receiver.

Nothing is ever as simple as it seems...

 

[highvoltagehands]

15-20 years ago, Most everyone towed everything under sun with 1/2 ton pickups. I towed my Lavey 2750 with 99 Chevy 1/2 ton over the grapevine, then Sac to Tahoe for years. My 1/2 ton Chevy sits as level as my buds 3/4 ton Ford. Someone experienced can get away with a lot more than newbie. You just don't want to be that guy......
Let your conscience be your guide.

 

[DRYHEAT]

15-20 years ago, Most everyone towed everything under sun with 1/2 ton pickups. I towed my Lavey 2750 with 99 Chevy 1/2 ton over the grapevine, then Sac to Tahoe for years. My 1/2 ton Chevy sits as level as my buds 3/4 ton Ford. Someone experienced can get away with a lot more than newbie. You just don't want to be that guy......
Let your conscience be your guide.
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Not to mention years ago people towed with Cadillacs station wagons big old sedans

 

[Sleek-Jet]

You used to be able to get a "heavy-half", which was a half-ton with 3/4 ton brakes and suspension.

 

[spectras only]

You missed the sarcasm

No, I didn't, hence I mentioned the need for speed. I knew you were just ribbing me mate. Can't wait til spring when the track is open.

 

[spectras only]

Not to mention years ago people towed with Cadillacs station wagons big old sedans

used to tow my Spectra [ was close to 5000 loaded on the trailer ] with my 64 Lincoln with highway gears, couldn't even feel the weight behind it. Lincoln, 5050 lbs dry, boat & trailer about 45-4600lbs.

Also towed the Spectra with my 72 Challenger. Rear end springs weren't that great.
Also went through a few clutches since the Chally had the 3.23 Suregrip rear. Could have upgraded to 3.73 though.

 

[rvrrun]

used to tow my Spectra [ was close to 5000 loaded on the trailer ] with my 64 Lincoln with highway gears, couldn't even feel the weight behind it. Lincoln, 5050 lbs dry, boat & trailer about 45-4600lbs.

Also towed the Spectra with my 72 Challenger. Rear end springs weren't that great.
Also went through a few clutches since the Chally had the 3.23 Suregrip rear. Could have upgraded to 3.73 though.

Alright, what's up with the red on the Challenger? That looks like it was Photoshopped with a Crayon.

 

[spectras only]

Alright, what's up with the red on the Challenger? That looks like it was Photoshopped with a Crayon.

Yes. I photoshopped it before the car was painted dark blue. I have another Polaroid shot showing the white vinyl roof taken off and some primer showing. I really hated the Hemi orange and white vinyl look. It wasn't cool back in the 70's. Peeps today would pay big bucks for an original Hemi orange paint, yuck IMHO.

This is the Polaroid before PS >

All original orange paint from 1972 . Next is my favorite blue

 

[highvoltagehands]

Yes. I photoshopped it before the car was painted dark blue. I have another Polaroid shot showing the white vinyl roof taken off and some primer showing. I really hated the Hemi orange and white vinyl look. It wasn't cool back in the 70's. Peeps today would pay big bucks for an original Hemi orange paint, yuck IMHO.

This is the Polaroid before PS >

All original orange paint from 1972 .

Suicide Lincoln is sic! The Challenger looks strapped to B-210? Optical delusion or just me?

 

[rivermobster]

Suicide Lincoln is sic! The Challenger looks strapped to B-210? Optical delusion or just me?

I was thinking it was a Mercury Capri! LoL

 

[Racer56]

I have a 16 1500 4x4 LTZ with the 6.2l ecotec and 8 speed trans and it tows great. Per your family needs it would be a great choice. If you want to try it out, hit me up and you can drive my truck with your trailer and see for yourself.

I know the RDP auto-answer is "get a 3500 DRW with airbags" - But im contemplating replacing the wife's car with a newer 1500 silverado, 4wd with the max tow package. 90% soccer mom duty, but the other 10% would be launching the boat (we keep it at the river) and towing our 26' toy hauler to the desert and back.

The toy hauler is 10K loaded, id imagine it weighs in real close to than number with the rzr , water , kid bikes and camping gear. My current gas 6.0 2500 pulls it fine, and the newer 5.3's have a better trans and more power than my old '07 2500 classic.

Chevy rates them to tow the weight, but does anyone have any experience pulling with those trucks near the max tow rating? I remember somebody on here hated theirs, said it was gutless, but the dealer agreed and took it back i think? Seems like it would be the perfect vehicle for us, instead of having a tow pig parked that we hardly drive. Washing 3 daily drivers that sit outside gets old.

 

[NicPaus]

I just checked Selman website. They have a nice 2017 with 6.2 High country for $40K sticker is $60K. Give Jason a text.

 

[highvoltagehands]

I was thinking it was a Mercury Capri! LoL

I think you're right my man. I should've known better than think a Jap rig would pull American Classic. "Thanks for pulling my head out".

 

[spectras only]

That Ford Capri GT 2600 V 6 was a great little car. Not many survived though. My Chally had a max 19 mpg highway and the Capri was closer to 30. Wish I still had both.
Mercury Capris were re-badged Mustangs later.

 

[highvoltagehands]

That Ford Capri GT 2600 V 6 was a great little car. Not many survived though. My Chally had a max 19 mpg highway and the Capri was closer to 30. Wish I still had both.
Mercury Capris were re-badged Mustangs later.

Right on. All those rigs are nice. But, Your profile page looks like you stepped up your game.

 

[spectras only]

Right on. All those rigs are nice. But, Your profile page looks like you stepped up your game.

Actually, would love to step back in my game to the 66 427 Vette that would be three times more worth than the Viper,lol.

Also, would trade my F-150 Ecoboost for a restored Dodge Powerwagon from the early 50's. I'd install a nice crate 427 Hemi in it to tow the toys.
I'd take this over any new 1500 Ram Hemi> http://www.dodgepowerwagon.com/classifieds/mckee-082117-50.php

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

No, I didn't, hence I mentioned the need for speed. I knew you were just ribbing me mate. Can't wait til spring when the track is open.

My track offseason is usually late June through mid September. Been so busy this Fall I only went once.. going get going again after the new year.

 

[rivermobster]

I think you're right my man. I should've known better than think a Jap rig would pull American Classic. "Thanks for pulling my head out".

The only reason I knew that is because I worked on those cars when they were brand new! Fuck I'm old...

Doh!

 

[highvoltagehands]

Actually, would love to step back in my game to the 66 427 Vette that would be three times more worth than the Viper,lol.

Also, would trade my F-150 Ecoboost for a restored Dodge Powerwagon from the early 50's. I'd install a nice crate 427 Hemi in it to tow the toys.
I'd take this over any new 1500 Ram Hemi> http://www.dodgepowerwagon.com/classifieds/mckee-082117-50.php

I'd be proud to step my game into any of your rides.

 

[SHOCKtheMONKEY]

Put me in the maniac/menace to society club.
Clapped out old Toyota with almost 200k miles pulling a 31' 10k+ toyhauler.
No problems going up Cajon Pass.
Yes it's heavy. No it's not a problem.
I'm on the roads every other weekend FYI, so watch out....

 

[wishiknew]

I just checked Selman website. They have a nice 2017 with 6.2 High country for $40K sticker is $60K. Give Jason a text.

I have bought 2 trucks from Jason Holley in the last 2 weeks and one of them has a6.2 and it is rocket ship !!!!!!!!

 

[NicPaus]

I have bought 2 trucks from Jason Holley in the last 2 weeks and one of them has a6.2 and it is rocket ship !!!!!!!!

My new 6.0 2500 is as well also from him. It launches when I let off the gas. I jumped in earlier after driving the 3500 all day at work and almost forgot have to stay on brake upon take off. If it was silver or white instead of black on the 1500 for 40k I would be tempted. Sell my 06 and have all new in the fleet. See if I can get these 2 new ground up contracts signed. Working on bids now.

 

[wishiknew]

My new 6.0 2500 is as well also from him. It launches when I let off the gas. I jumped in earlier after driving the 3500 all day at work and almost forgot have to stay on brake upon take off. If it was silver or white instead of black on the 1500 for 40k I would be tempted. Sell my 06 and have all new in the fleet. See if I can get these 2 new ground up contracts signed. Working on bids now.

When I was there on Friday he had a silver one with a 6.2 and it was a Ltz 1500