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watching this unfold live on you tube via firephotogirl and scanners and it is incredible . my heart hurts watching what most people have worked their lives to acquire vanish .. What is brutal is not knowing when it ends unlike most other disasters.. Can you imagine the damage if other disaster type events lasted 24 hours..Fire sucks when your not drinking around a pit !
 
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I think it's pretty safe to say the we are pretty easily over 70mph gusts, our anemometer on our weather station broke.... well seized actually, I walked out to check and see if it was still there and it is but the vanes aren't turning 😳
 
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The news just reported flight restrictions because President Biden is in LA! Don’t know if this applies to water dropping aircraft and helicopters. News said this is why they can’t fly over the burn areas and there copters are grounded.
 
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Time and place and my "thought" is wrong for both.

Time for a major earthquake. Everyone is evacuated and a tsunami would help.
 
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timstoy said:
The news just reported flight restrictions because President Biden is in LA! Don’t know if this applies to water dropping aircraft and helicopters. News said this is why they can’t fly over the burn areas and there copters are grounded.
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He's been in LA all day, they aren't flying because of the wind
 
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timstoy said:
The news just reported flight restrictions because President Biden is in LA! Don’t know if this applies to water dropping aircraft and helicopters. News said this is why they can’t fly over the burn areas and there copters are grounded.
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The TFR does not apply to emergency services aircraft like Calfire or Coulson firefighting aircraft. It's just too windy for most to fly.
 
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Apparantly there is a local dude in our area that is like Rainman but when it comes to wind models. He posted this up about 36 hours ago, and was talking about his wind models 10 days ago.

DAMAGING SANTA ANA WINDSTORM 36 HOURS AWAY

Good morning,

After careful consideration, long hours comparing this wind event against others in the past, and watching forecast model trends, I've opted to maintain my forecast for a high end class-3 windstorm to surface in all San Gabriel Mountain foothill communities late Tuesday night into Wednesday morning. I will not escalate my forecast for this event to a class-4 at this time, which requires widespread suburban wind speeds of at least 65 MPH.



Class-3 impacts (FORECASTED): Isolated property damage, several power outages lasting 12 hours - 3 days, including frequent power flashes, dozens of trees down, big-rigs turned over, isolated car damage/total loss. Economic losses >$1,000,000



Class-4 impacts (NOT FORECASTED): Occasional property damage, dozens of damaged homes, widespread power outages lasting 3 - 7 days, 100s trees down, possible injuries, dozens of cars damaged/totaled, danger to human life. Economic losses >$25,000,000.



While there remains an outside chance this event will be stronger than forecasted, that idea was never fully adopted among a majority of models. That being said, the windstorm that is about to hit has a decent chance at being the strongest windstorm in our area in 15 years by an inch, beating the January 22, 2022 windstorm. That isn't exactly saying a whole lot, as, aside from 2011, the 1998 - 2019 period was a relatively inactive period for cold flavor wind events in the San Gabriel Valley.



With this windstorm becoming our second class-3 event in 10 months and fourth in five years, it has increasingly become clear to me that our 22-year inactive period is over. Over the coming 10-12 years, Santa Ana windstorm activity may continue to increase. Based on what occurred in the 1980s, activity picks up slowly and then much more quickly, with the first few years seeing a couple of storms but the 5th - 8th year being hyperactive. Obviously, this is a different decade in a warming world with different stages of teleconnections that control these inter-decadal variabilities, but my 2021 forecast calling for 8 - 15 years of more active windstorm climatology continues to verify.



TIMING:

A trough of low pressure will dive out of the Great Basin with a triangle-shaped western periphery. That shape is inefficient, and the pointed end of the trough will pick up speed as it swings through Southern California in an attempt to round itself out (as fluids do). A secondary piece of energy behind it will rapidly sink out of Idaho in an attempt to fill the void. It'll merge with the main trough over Southern California, rapidly washing over the San Gabriel Mountains.



This piece of energy will come crashing in around sunset on Tuesday +/- 2 hours. Before it does so, the air may be calm in the foothills, though this could be fully inaccurate as there will be a pre-game rounds of Santa Anas Tuesday morning.



Once the piece of energy washes over, it'll kick off a 6 - 12 hour period of strong, potentially damaging winds in the San Gabriel Valley foothills throughout Tuesday night into early Wednesday morning. This trough's proximity, the duration of this event, the presence of this second piece of energy, and the time of year are all aiding this windstorm in becoming a strong event. The trough, however, is not uber-cold, and air pressure gradients between either side of the San Gabriel Range will not be overly impressive. Those two factors are preventing this windstorm from becoming a class-4. Should either of those factors change, so will this forecast.



Between 8 PM Tuesday and 6 AM Wednesday, expect strong winds to come roaring off the mountains throughout the valley. Winds gusts in favored neighborhoods, especially around Cucamonga Canyon, could very well reach 70 MPH. The strongest winds will be north of the 210 freeway, with Pasadena, Altadena, La Crescenta, Claremont, Upland, and San Antonio Heights all being hit hard. The Linda Vista neighborhood, South Pasadena, Sierra Madre, Monrovia, Arcadia, Duarte, Glendora, San Dimas and La Verne will not see as strong activity, with class-2 conditions likely.



Class-2 conditions are characterized by: Little to no property damage, one or two power outages lasting a couple hours, occasional small-medium branches down, palm fronds everywhere, maybe a tree down or two, sleepless night for many. Power flashes, power outages, falling trees, blowing dust, audible howling, airborne projectiles, and rare instance of infrastructure damage such as lost roof shingles, broken traffic lights, and downed gas station pergolas will occur. Winds on Henninger Helipad and Mount Lukens Truck Trail will likely exceed 90 MPH, and reports of winds above 100 MPH in the ANF will likely come in.



Please prepare by conducting the following:



• Do NOT park your car underneath a tree on Tuesday night

• Do NOT sleep underneath a tree on Tuesday night

• Clean out all gutters to prevent wildfires from setting your home on fire

• Bring in cushions, lights, patio T.V.s, holiday decorations, sails, or anything that can be damaged in a powerful windstorm.

• Do NOT drive over downed powerlines

• Monitor the latest from OFFICIAL wildfire sources, especially if a wildfire breaks out.
 
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Why isn't newdumbass calling up the guard for helping in all facets of operation?
 
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Fire Hydrants Have No Water for Firefighters in the Pallisades / It Appears The Resevoir was not Filled Prior to This Event / Hard Questions for Disaster Prepardness and City Leaders !
 
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timstoy said:
The news just reported flight restrictions because President Biden is in LA! Don’t know if this applies to water dropping aircraft and helicopters. News said this is why they can’t fly over the burn areas and there copters are grounded.
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No one cares about his safety at this point. We should just send the secret service home for a vacation.
 
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Fire Hydrants Have No Water for Firefighters in the Pallisades / It Appears The Resevoir was not Filled Prior to This Event / Hard Questions for Disaster Prepardness and City Leaders !
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If they don’t have backup generators to pump water up to the tank when the power is shut off, they only have what’s available in the tank. This happened on the Thomas Fire as well. News reported a fleeing vehicle today took out a fire hydrant which wastes 1000s of gallons. Broken water pipes from burned down homes wastes a lot as well.
 
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Raiden Storm (So Cal Weather Force) predicted this whole incident weeks ago and is now claiming that the fires are being started by an Arson and next fires will be east into San Bernardino National Forest.

We surprisingly got slammed hard in French Valley last night. We were in a 3/4 zone out of 8 which was supposed to be minor. I have never heard wind like that.

Another Santa Ana wind event is forecast for next week too.
 
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James Wood lost his home. Everyone from the chief to the governor is responsible for this fire. The mayor is in Africa knowing this week was high winds and high fire danger. They will burn down California trying to prove some bs climate change agenda. I don't live in California but we're praying for those that do.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1876941213703565373
 
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reminds me of the 1993 Laguna Beach fires....

Prayers to all involved
 
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A lot of homes at La Costa Beach Club are gone.

For those that are familiar with the area these are the homes just north of Dukes on PCH behind the liquor store and Country Kitchen (burger joint).
 
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It’s starting to get windy in Phoenix, it’s a warm wind. My truck said 54 this morning and it’s only supposed to be 62 today.

This house should handle the wind well, my Corona house that was in Temescal Valley was a nightmare. It backed up to nothing so the wind would come ripping down the valley right through my backyard, it was able to knock over my BBQ.

Prayers to all the people affected by the fires.
 
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attitude said:
It’s starting to get windy in Phoenix, it’s a warm wind. My truck said 54 this morning and it’s only supposed to be 62 today.

This house should handle the wind well, my Corona house that was in Temescal Valley was a nightmare. It backed up to nothing so the wind would come ripping down the valley right through my backyard, it was able to knock over my BBQ.

Prayers to all the people affected by the fires.
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We sure need the wind to blow this smog bubble out. Its been a dome for the last month and some rain would be nice to knock it down also.
 
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OldSchoolBoats said:
Raiden Storm (So Cal Weather Force) predicted this whole incident weeks ago and is now claiming that the fires are being started by an Arson and next fires will be east into San Bernardino National Forest.

We surprisingly got slammed hard in French Valley last night. We were in a 3/4 zone out of 8 which was supposed to be minor. I have never heard wind like that.

Another Santa Ana wind event is forecast for next week too.
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We’re not far from one another and the leaves on the trees were/are barely moving at my house. I talked to my Dad near Canyon Lake and the wind was blowing hard. I drove down to Temecula Motorsports and it was blowing like crazy. Came back home and nothing.

So weird how it’s blowing hard in one spot and not blowing at all a few miles away.

Watching KTLA and they’re showing the fires leap frogging these homes. I can only imagine watching your home go up in flames live on tv, so sad.
 
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We sure need the wind to blow this smog bubble out. Its been a dome for the last month and some rain would be nice to knock it down also.
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I’m not sure how much it is smog vs dust. This no rain has made the desert dry, I didn’t notice the visibility until we got a little wind about a month ago.

Of course I power washed my whole back yard in November thinking we would use it more during the winter and now it’s even dirtier than before lol.
 
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