Ultra Boats update

[GRADS]

Gut says your right, just posted what he said on that other site

There's another site?

 

[lakemadness]

There's another site?

They wont let you be moderator there either...

 

[GRADS]

They wont let you be moderator there either...

Where is there?

 

[Ziggy]

Where is there?

RiverWhips is on Facebook

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[shintoooo]

 

[GRADS]

RiverWhips is on Facebook

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Yeah I'm a member....I'm not that impressed.

 

[USMC2010]

Yeah I'm a member....I'm not that impressed.

It started out ok, seems to have fallen after the growth explosion. I haven't posted anything there in a long time because of...

 

[comfortably numb]

It started out ok, seems to have fallen after the growth explosion. I haven't posted anything there in a long time because of...

the bullshit gossip.

 

[Ziggy]

Yeah I'm a member....I'm not that impressed.

It started out ok, seems to have fallen after the growth explosion. I haven't posted anything there in a long time because of...

the bullshit gossip.

I'm not on Facebook so I don't see it but I do get to hear about some of "gossip", high and mighty "baller", and "stuck up people" posts second hand.[emoji16][emoji16][emoji16][emoji16]

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[LargeOrangeFont]

I'm not on Facebook so I don't see it but I do get to hear about some of "gossip", high and mighty "baller", and "stuck up people" posts second hand.[emoji16][emoji16][emoji16][emoji16]

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River Whips is for people that don't actually go the the river.

 

[throttle]

Cash on delivery. .If I was going to get a new board that would not be my first choice, so many lighter, better designed boards on the market to choose from in my book.

I still have and use the board that I won in the raffle a few years ago at DS, Rusty made it and donated it to RD to be used as a fundraiser for our past friend "Outnumbered". It is a nice board, however I have to agree, there are others on the market that flow and work better. It does just fine for what it is used for in havasu no doubt, but I would not take it out on open water.

 

[dntnosht]

I got to see the red 28 Shadow deck that was being built for 2 years, yesterday. It's at Interceptor now. Feel terrible for the guy.

Gotta admit though, that 28 Shadow Deck is one nice boat.

Took his boat from one shady shop to another huh???

 

[OldSchoolBoats]

Took his boat from one shady shop to another huh???

Hi Mr. Vague, nice to meet you.

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[Rvrluvr]

It started out ok, seems to have fallen after the growth explosion. I haven't posted anything there in a long time because of...

The high amount of snowflakes

 

[kiethco]

I'm a loyal Ultra customer and a fan of Rusty as he always (almost) delivered as promised, nobody's perfect. Whatever happens he's going to be in the boat business and will be someone good to know.
Andy01 can tell you stories about me scrambling to meet payroll 20 years ago, we still laugh about it. If business was easy or a sure thing everyone would be wine and roses all the time.

 

[Andy01]

I'm a loyal Ultra customer and a fan of Rusty as he always (almost) delivered as promised, nobody's perfect. Whatever happens he's going to be in the boat business and will be someone good to know.
Andy01 can tell you stories about me scrambling to meet payroll 20 years ago, we still laugh about it. If business was easy or a sure thing everyone would be wine and roses all the time.

First guy out of bed cashed his check............. those poor FHP and Santa Ana guys that worked all night, I was there banging on the bank door "let me in"!! LOL Life....... If success was easy we would all be sitting at the top.

This post is directed at Keith, not any excuse for whatever Ultra has going on. I did buy a Ultra and work a couple of boat shows with John West back in the day, (just for fun) was fun times for sure. But damn that was a long time ago........

 

[guest hs]

I went by Ultra yesterday there was a couple cars there and one of the gates was open didn’t see much movement there

 

[FROGMAN524]

ultra boats website doesn't work either. Says it's suspended.

 

[comfortably numb]

Sounds like a For Sale sign is next. Be watching Craig's lists

 

[Icky]

ultra boats website doesn't work either. Says it's suspended.

Interesting I just went on there when this thread started and it was working. I always liked the shadows

 

[USMC2010]

Unless there is another site I see this too.

 

[RitcheyRch]

I get the same message after doing a google search

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Unless there is another site I see this too.

 

[ductape1000]

Everything is fine here... Nothing to see...

 

[comfortably numb]

Well guess I'll have to buy a used 24' or wait to see who starts (The New Ultra Boats) or Under New Management!

 

[RiverDave]

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Unless there is another site I see this too.

Oh I don’t think there’s any question that he’s struggling to make ends meet.

I do find the tone of the thread a bit curious though.. As a small business owner I’m always rooting for the little guy to pull it off and come out of the hole.

I have been there many times in my life, especially when I first moved to Havasu and was doing anything I could to pay the bills. I sold a ton of shit really cheap out of necessity not choice, but it all worked out in the end.

I for one hope Rusty pulls it off and gets the cash flow going to make things right with a couple of those long term builds he had going.

Seems like a lot of guys are hoping for the opposite.

 

[4Waters]

Oh I don’t think there’s any question that he’s struggling to make ends meet.

I do find the tone of the thread a bit curious though.. As a small business owner I’m always rooting for the little guy to pull it off and come out of the hole.

I have been there many times in my life, especially when I first moved to Havasu and was doing anything I could to pay the bills. I sold a ton of shit really cheap out of necessity not choice, but it all worked out in the end.

I for one hope Rusty pulls it off and gets the cash flow going to make things right with a couple of those long term builds he had going.

Seems like a lot of guys are hoping for the opposite.

I'm right there with you Dave, I have a couple friends with small businesses and I would also like to see him pull it off and make the wrongs right. It sucks he is in a bad position right now weather it's self inflicted or not.

 

[Ziggy]

I'm not so sure they hope for Rustys failure, rather, they are speculating the future.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Oh I don’t think there’s any question that he’s struggling to make ends meet.

I do find the tone of the thread a bit curious though.. As a small business owner I’m always rooting for the little guy to pull it off and come out of the hole.

I have been there many times in my life, especially when I first moved to Havasu and was doing anything I could to pay the bills. I sold a ton of shit really cheap out of necessity not choice, but it all worked out in the end.

I for one hope Rusty pulls it off and gets the cash flow going to make things right with a couple of those long term builds he had going.

Seems like a lot of guys are hoping for the opposite.

Dave,

When enough bad stories come out about a business, they are usually partially if not all true. Of course there are customers that are never pleased, but this is different. Everything seems fine and good, there are a few public whispers about X person getting screwed by Y business, those are ignored or dismissed by the cheerleaders. Then the house of cards gets blown down and everyone is suprised.. except the guys that got taken advantage of. The same thing happened with OCM.

I get that running a business is hard, and times can be tough, but Dave in your small business did you not deliver on commits, leave customers hanging, become non responsive and then deceive them? I don’t think you did.

That is the difference. It is not criminal to run a bad business or come under hard times, but there are consequences that come from it, and if that comes in the form of a warning on the internet not to do business with X company, so be it. Why should anyone throw their hard earned money into a shakey business when there are other options in the marketplace to make a purchase from?

Even if some of the accusations are untrue or one sided, no other side has been presented, and there seems to be evidence that at least some of what has been said is true.

I don’t hope that he pulls through as much as I hope he makes good on his commitments to people left hanging as a business, and whatever happens after that happens.

 

[RiverDave]

Dave,

When enough bad stories come out about a business, they are usually true. Everything seems fine and good, there are a few public whispers about X person getting screwed by Y business, those are ignored or dismissed by the cheerleaders.... then the house of cards gets blown down and everyone is suprised.. except the guys that got taken advantage of. The same thing happened with OCM.

I get that running a business is hard, and times can be tough, but Dave in your small business did you not deliver on commits, leave customers hanging, become non responsive and then deceive them? I don’t think you did.

That is the difference. It is not criminal to run a bad business or come under hard times, but there are consequences that come from it, and if that come in the form of a warning on the internet not to do business with X company, so be it.

Even if some of the accusations are untrue or one sided, no other side has been presented, and there seems to be evidence that at least some of what has been said is true.

I don’t hope that he pulls through as mush as I hope he makes good on his commitments as a business, and whatever happens after that happens.

I don’t disagree at all.. I think the difference is Tim is a sociopath, Rusty is a better shop guy than a front man.

In other words I don’t think the intent is there.. Who knows though I’m a never ending optimist.


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[LargeOrangeFont]

I don’t disagree at all.. I think the difference is Tim is a sociopath, Rusty is a better shop guy than a front man.

In other words I don’t think the intent is there.. Who knows though I’m a never ending optimist.


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Agreed. Just because someone is a good guy, does not make them good at business. If you can’t run a profitable business you have a couple options -Hire someone who can help you run the business properly, or stop running businesses.

Make an offer to parter with him and run the business. Let him run the shop. Change the name to
UltRD Boats

 

[RiverDave]

Agreed. Just because someone is a good guy, does not make them good at business. If you can’t run a profitable business you have a couple options -Hire someone who can help you run the business properly, or stop running businesses.

Make an offer to parter with him and run the business. Let him run the shop. Change the name to
UltRD Boats

Lol.. I could do a lot of shit in this world.. I’m not sure building boats is one of them.


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[TexasJet]

"Who knows though I’m a never ending optimist. " I'm a confirmed pessimist, that way if it goes bad you can say " I knew that was going to happen". If it goes good you are pleasantly supprised. Just kidding but it is an interesting angle. I hope Ultra does succeed.

 

[beaverretriever]

Oh I don’t think there’s any question that he’s struggling to make ends meet.

I do find the tone of the thread a bit curious though.. As a small business owner I’m always rooting for the little guy to pull it off and come out of the hole.

I have been there many times in my life, especially when I first moved to Havasu and was doing anything I could to pay the bills. I sold a ton of shit really cheap out of necessity not choice, but it all worked out in the end.

I for one hope Rusty pulls it off and gets the cash flow going to make things right with a couple of those long term builds he had going.

Seems like a lot of guys are hoping for the opposite.

Dave I agree with you 100%.

I'm just poking my head in here so I don't really know the whole story. Has Rusty made a concerted effort in filling everyone in on why the delays in the boat building process, why doors are closed and locked and why the website is down?

I feel the main issue here is current clients and future customers want answers. Being in sales for over 20 years I have learned people in general are ok with delays in a sales or order process when it comes to tangible products like boats as long as they are kept in the loop by the manufacture, sales person or customer service.

I have NEVER had a client get upset with me on a custom order of a high price item as long as I kept them in tune to some degree. Touching base and following up with customers keeps them feeling warm and fuzzy about where they spent their money. Sometimes it gets to the point where the salesperson doesn't have an answer; but letting your customer know you don't have an answer is better than becoming unreachable IMHO.

 

[Dirtbag]

Oh I don’t think there’s any question that he’s struggling to make ends meet.

I do find the tone of the thread a bit curious though.. As a small business owner I’m always rooting for the little guy to pull it off and come out of the hole.

I have been there many times in my life, especially when I first moved to Havasu and was doing anything I could to pay the bills. I sold a ton of shit really cheap out of necessity not choice, but it all worked out in the end.

I for one hope Rusty pulls it off and gets the cash flow going to make things right with a couple of those long term builds he had going.

Seems like a lot of guys are hoping for the opposite.

couldnt agree more....and especially a boat builder...i always root for the little guy...im a little guy in business and its a constant struggle in what i do....But one thing you cant do is piss off your customer base. Always be honest. once you throw shade you will always be looked at differently

 

[GRADS]

I did buy a Ultra and work a couple of boat shows with John West back in the day, (just for fun) was fun times for sure.

Yeah, me too. I always thought it was a little strange how he asked us to dress like him.

 

[Gelcoater]

Yeah, me too. I always thought it was a little strange how he asked us to dress like him.

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Son of a Bitch that's Gay!

 

[GRADS]

Son of a Bitch that's Gay!

That pic is from old school HotBoat.com days.

 

[riverroyal]

Yeah, me too. I always thought it was a little strange how he asked us to dress like him.

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to bad most guys havent let that look go just yet,,,,it might come back

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Son of a Bitch that's Gay!

It is not gay, it is a warm embrace.

 

[DRYHEAT]

I think it would be a futile attempt to come on here and try to explain his position, most of the experts on here seem pretty set in stone what they think of him and or how he runs his business. How do you combat social media when your name has been drug through the mud. I have no dog in this fight I don’t know Rusty I just find it sad to see another boat manufacture having a hard time. I’ve lived here for 29 years and have had more than one bounced check from several big-name boat manufacturers. I hope he can get his shit together and continue on.

 

[kiethco]

I don’t disagree at all.. I think the difference is Tim is a sociopath, Rusty is a better shop guy than a front man.

This is exactly why I love dealing with Rusty. I knew he was seat of the pants the first time I met him. By the same token, he's always been engaged in my boating life. I'm a little taken back by the tone of this thread too. I think it's because the RDP crowd is a bit more boat savvy and more seasoned with Havasu marine industry issues. To be honest, I was gonna look for someone else to do my off season upgrades, but now, I have no intention of giving my money to anyone else. If I lose it, I lost it to a friend that was doing the best he can and fell short. I can't buy back the summer of 2016, I'll have those memories forever and Rusty made it happen.


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[comfortably numb]

Updated Face book page?
https://www.facebook.com/UltraBoats/

 

[BUDMAN]

I got to see the red 28 Shadow deck that was being built for 2 years, yesterday. It's at Interceptor now. Feel terrible for the guy.

Gotta admit though, that 28 Shadow Deck is one nice boat.

The name seems fitting

 

[ductape1000]

The name seems fitting

It should be named "patience"... [emoji37]

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[riverroyal]

If ultra wasn't going to close up shop this entire thread is putting the last nail in...i have mixed feelings about reading this or posting. I want every business man to succeed, but once negative is placed on the internet it doesn't go away. Google ultra next year and you will find this thread.
So if ultra makes a recovery, or does better then it's going to be a tough road to convince new buyers to buy.
On the flip side it's a community throwing up a caution flag, which I can appreciate.

I hope everyone gets what is owed to them if it goes south. I also hope ultra is around for another 10 years, hate to think people will be out jobs

 

[ductape1000]

If ultra wasn't going to close up shop this entire thread is putting the last nail in...i have mixed feelings about reading this or posting. I want every business man to succeed, but once negative is placed on the internet it doesn't go away. Google ultra next year and you will find this thread.
So if ultra makes a recovery, or does better then it's going to be a tough road to convince new buyers to buy.
On the flip side it's a community throwing up a caution flag, which I can appreciate.

I hope everyone gets what is owed to them if it goes south. I also hope ultra is around for another 10 years, hate to think people will be out jobs

We are living in the information age. Either you embrace it or it will own you. If there are issues, be open and honest about them and your plan to make things work. If you don't share with the internet when you are a topic of discussion, the internet will tell its own story.
As sad as that sounds, it is the reality of today. Every business person out there has to sell themselves each and every day. If they are not willing to do that, their reputation is not theirs to own.

I was told early in my career, every person will talk about you. Some will talk good and some will talk bad. It is your choice what people will say.

 

[That Guy]

I'm not so sure they hope for Rustys failure, rather, they are speculating the future.

...and don't want another Tim from OCM outcome.

 

[PaladiumStars]

Does anyone have any new updates on Ultra? Unfortunately, I have a new build with Ultra and haven’t heard much. I checked this forum recently and seen all the bad news about them. Not sure what to do, my money and traded in boat looks like it will be stolen/lost at this point.

 

[riverroyal]

Does anyone have any new updates on Ultra? Unfortunately, I have a new build with Ultra and haven’t heard much. I checked this forum recently and seen all the bad news about them. Not sure what to do, my money and traded in boat looks like it will be stolen/lost at this point.

yikes......why are you not in havasu right this second camped out in front of the shop? At the very least grab the traded boat, unless its missing

 

[Bigbore500r]

Does anyone have any new updates on Ultra? Unfortunately, I have a new build with Ultra and haven’t heard much. I checked this forum recently and seen all the bad news about them. Not sure what to do, my money and traded in boat looks like it will be stolen/lost at this point.

I would drive down and speak with them in person. Don't take whats on here as gospel as there is lots of "3rd hand info", but you should check in with your own eyes and talk to the owner.