Truck into crowd at Glamis drags

[TPC]

You sure that wasn’t before he went into the crowd? Looks to me as though that whole “after the accident” deal may be a little far fetched internet story going on... as if that ever happens. Looks like someone is giving him the horns or maybe the shocker. Don’t really see someone doing that after he plows into a bunch of people either. Always a lot of speculation in a situation like this, myself included.

You might be right.
This is what I’ve gleaned off Glamis Dunes. People that were close to the incident don’t dispute it but that doesn’t verify it.
Last Time I remember a vehicle hitting the crowd in Glamis was roughly around 1998 - 2000.

Two fatalities at DUMONT BTW.

 

[Gelcoater]

Negative, I bought my 2001 Banshee at the end of 2000 and went to Comp at night for a few years after that.


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I got my 87 Banshee new in late 88 (they couldn’t give them away then) and rode it every year until about when you got on one. I still have them both by the way

It’s entirely probable there were many instances over several years.

I’ll probably get kicked in the nuts for saying it but I agree with some who say when Crusty Demons of Dirt came out in 94? 95? It changed Glamis.
Slowly at first.
Some parts were cool. Ever see Jeremy McGrath jump Down comp hill? I did. It was rad. He and crew showed up, owned the place for 10 minutes and were gone, and you couldn’t catch them if you tried!
But that video changed the place.

At least it did from my perception as a person going since the ATC days. (The 80s)
I can’t say I didn’t have a copy when I was younger, but looking back?
It changed Glamis as I knew it.

 

[TPC]

You make the call.
This reportedly is a pic of when he came to a stop, the other a close up.

If you're correct and this picture was taken AFTER he went into the crowd then it blows my mind that he would have a smile on his face even for a moment while knowing that he's hurt people in the crowd.

 

[DLow]

You make the call.
This reportedly is a pic of when he came to a stop, the other a close up.
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Now that makes more sense.

 

[Mototrig]

The rumor that I heard while I was in Glamis (I was not on scene) is the driver was assaulted by the crowd after the incident. Again that's just the word that made it to the washes. Perhaps members of the crowd saw him smiling after he slammed into a person and beat him down....wishful thinking. I doubt we'll ever know.

 

[Rbcconst]

View attachment 705301 Dunno of this pic has been posted - (not gettin pix on my phone) but here’s the guy that was driving the truck just after he hit the crowd and came to a stop.

Reported by members on Glamis dunes he was arrested then released. Evidently blew a zero but this is all people posting, nothing official from the LEOs that I’ve found yet.
May be more info out there.

Doesn’t really look like what I would expect to see after a crash. After watching the video I would have thought he would be facing down the drags a little. The pic looks like someone pulled straight in. But who knows. Also couldn’t see even the worst person smiling.

Glamis is a no fault accident so as long as he was sober I can’t see him getting in much trouble. Kinda like people lining the course at the Baja 1000. Bummer to me is that it looked totally avoidable with any driver that had half a brain or much off road driving experience. That truck is not set up right to do what he was doing, I can’t see why he and several other vehicles like it go down the drags, it’s not impressive specially when you have several long travel cars.

Going through the drags and up/down the hill is something most people want to do. As for me on a holiday weekend I may go through the drags once but likely not and if the hill was busy I wouldn’t be going up or down. Not because I don’t like it but because I don’t have trust in the people around.


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[JD D05]

Been reading this thread and thought I would respond with my sand dunes experiences. In Utah we have the Little Sahara, It is where we all went when we were younger. It is a lifestyle really around here and I assume it is also in Glamis. I still have a lot of friends that go a lot. Growing up it was incident after incident. I was on my way out to meet up with a girl I had been out with one time, when I got there I found the group and asked where she was. The people looked at me and said "oh you just missed her she left in life flight". I had pretty close friend go head on with another side by side and die on the way to the ER. Knew another family that the dad rolled a machine and killed his 10 year old son. Just constant tragedy, drunk morons etc. I stopped going years ago.

 

[monkeyswrench]

When I was young, never drank at dunes(or river) so long as the ride was running. Always new I couldn't afford to fix stuff if I pushed it too hard. If I broke the car for the weekend, different story. Now I'm older, and a family man. My responsibilities changed. Now I could fix my stuff if I broke it, but now kids are involved. Now I don't drink until crap's back on the trailer, in my driveway. I look at it differently now. Wadded up cars, broken parts racing, they can be replaced. My kids, anyone's kids, different story. No offense to ya'll, but adults should know to stay out of my way. Your kids may not, as mine may not. I couldn't imagine hurting my own kids, or someone else's. Adults make the decisions, right or wrong. Kids usually trust their parents. The end results can be tragic.

 

[TPC]

Doesn’t really look like what I would expect to see after a crash


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SAY WHAT????????

You’re supposed to look all dialed in after loosing control and hitting the crowd??????
The flat earthers are giving their takes.

I digress.

 

[76 Southwind]

You make the call.
This reportedly is a pic of when he came to a stop, the other a close up.
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Who gives the Hang Loose sign after someone smashes into the crowd..

 

[Rbcconst]

SAY WHAT????????

You’re supposed to look all dialed in after loosing control and hitting the crowd??????
The flat earthers are giving their takes.

I digress.

I’m saying the position of the truck doesn’t look like I would expect after a crash. The truck wouldn’t be sitting as it is it would be at an angle. Also couldn’t see the guys facial expression looking like that after hitting a crowd.

All I’m sayin is the picture looks to me like it might have been a previous picture not an after accident picture.

The earth isnt flat? Bahaha


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[monkeyswrench]

I’m saying the position of the truck doesn’t look like I would expect after a crash. The truck wouldn’t be sitting as it is it would be at an angle. Also couldn’t see the guys facial expression looking like that after hitting a crowd.

All I’m sayin is the picture looks to me like it might have been a previous picture not an after accident picture.

The earth isnt flat? Bahaha


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The facial expression is tough, maybe a frame of a change of expression? As for the angle of the truck, somewhat where you would think it would come to rest after the angle of impact. With the way that thing was bouncing, I'd bet he had no idea what he actually hit...car, truck...people. In some respects, I could see that people may not think it was a bad wreck. Really, unless you had a clear line of sight to the victims, you may not know how bad it was. I really don't think the driver could see much directly in front of him. I wouldn't doubt his first notion of harm was when he was getting out. I'd still place him at majority fault for lack of control, and choosing to be so close to spectators. If this guy had made previous passes, it probably would have been a good idea to be on your toes, ready to move or be behind a vehicle until he passed. All in hindsight. Sad thing regardless.

 

[Captain Dan]

Who gives the Hang Loose sign after someone smashes into the crowd.. Also is that dude wearing a Humpty Hump Nose? See Post #146

From TPC's enlargement on post #156, it appears not to be a "hang loose" but a sideways look at a forward facing "hold up" signal to others

 

[Rbcconst]

The facial expression is tough, maybe a frame of a change of expression? As for the angle of the truck, somewhat where you would think it would come to rest after the angle of impact. With the way that thing was bouncing, I'd bet he had no idea what he actually hit...car, truck...people. In some respects, I could see that people may not think it was a bad wreck. Really, unless you had a clear line of sight to the victims, you may not know how bad it was. I really don't think the driver could see much directly in front of him. I wouldn't doubt his first notion of harm was when he was getting out. I'd still place him at majority fault for lack of control, and choosing to be so close to spectators. If this guy had made previous passes, it probably would have been a good idea to be on your toes, ready to move or be behind a vehicle until he passed. All in hindsight. Sad thing regardless.

I would agree with that possibility. Specially if he didn’t hit a vehicle, he may not of realized at that point he had hurt someone. I would have expected the truck to still be pointed down the drags somewhat. This photo makes it look like he pulled straight in but anything can happen.

I think he is at fault for sure but don’t think he will be prosecuted for it as glamis a no fault place if he was not impaired.


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[DLow]

heres the full pic View attachment 705539

Yes. TPC posted the full pic earlier and I agreed that it makes more sense when you see it that way. Tragic accident.

 

[rvrrun]

So, after reading this thread, what I am getting is all of the assholes with water cannons in the channel alternate holiday weekends in Glamis running people over and burning trucks?

 

[Mototrig]

Judging by the direction the spectators are looking in this cropped pic of the crowd I'd say this was taken immediately after impact. Why would the crowd be interested in looking towards the Toyota if it hadn't just caused a scene? All the action is more towards the direction of the camerman. I personally believe this pic was taken right after impact.

And I waould agree with Monkeyswrench that there's a solid possibility this pic was taken between two separate facial expressions.

 

[Bpracing1127]

Notice the red chair folded underneath in Both pictures

 

[76 Southwind]

From TPC's enlargement on post #156, it appears not to be a "hang loose" but a sideways look at a forward facing "hold up" signal to others

You sir are correct. Thanks for the clarification. Should have probably blown it up myself..

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

Looks like he had a police lives matter American flag in the truck, makes sense why he wasn’t ticketed now.

 

[outboard_256]

You make the call.
This reportedly is a pic of when he came to a stop, the other a close up.
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holy crap I have wheeled with that guy before. Been rock crawling with him, at the time he had a 4-runner. I think he is part of the highcore offroad crew. They have a big camp at KOH that is all Toyota's. His IG account is deleted. I only knew his first name but the name in the news article matches his now gone IG account. I think he had a trucking business or something.

https://www.kyma.com/news/car-drives-into-crowd-at-sand-dunes/895551820